ZoomBubba Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Just s place to talk about this instead of the overblown 2020 election thread ... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomBubba Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) Police Response In D.C. Flies In The Face Of Right-Wing Self-Perception Quote While the police response in Washington, D.C., Wednesday may look like a disproportionate lack of force compared with the response to protests this summer, it is very much counter to the expectations of right-wing protesters who have come to perceive police as their allies. I just got off the phone with Ed Maguire, a professor of criminology at Arizona State University who studies interactions between protesters and police, and he told me that his interviews with protesters have shown a consistent pattern: Left-wing protesters believe that police are against them and will rough them up more than other kinds of protesters; right-wing protesters believe that police are on their side. There’s not much empirical evidence to show whether those perceptions are true, but even unprovable beliefs can end up mattering a lot if they shape behavior. And these particular beliefs seem to do that, Maguire said. He pointed to the protest in Portland, Oregon, last summer, where right-wing protesters brought bear mace and other weapons to a protest and used them on both left-wing counterprotesters and members of the press. Even as that happened, he said, Portland police took a largely hands-off approach, something that ended up only increasing left-wing protesters’ sense of grievance against the police. But today’s events are likely to change the game. When he interviewed right-wing protesters at Stop the Steal events in Arizona over the past few months, Maguire was surprised to find just how strong — and how religious — their belief in police support was. “They believed God was on their side and police were backing them,” he told me. “That leftists are Godless and they hate God and hate America. [But right-wing protesters] were God fearing moral people and police would always back them for that reason.” Now, they have evidence that isn’t true. The use of police force against right-wing protesters — any force — upsets the apple cart of some very deeply held beliefs, Maguire said. And that’s likely to have consequences of some kind. Link: https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/georgia-senate-election-results/ Edited January 6, 2021 by ZoomBubba 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 This...fucking...guy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomBubba Posted January 6, 2021 Author Share Posted January 6, 2021 Just now, Sawdamizer said: This...fucking...guy Most of the people who made it inside the Capitol seemed like they were more interested in selfies than overthrowing the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Shut up, Icarus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 They keep saying the crowd was too big it outnumbered the police but how many Trump people in total came out? Seems like there were very few police. Have they given any estimations of about how many people in total came in from around the country or w/e for Trump's live whatever the fuck today that led to this? I've heard the number that there's apparently 2,000 Capitol police in total on the payrolls but haven't heard how many of them were there on the job doing security, or how big the crowd for Trump was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 You can shut up too, cocksucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 The female that was shot has now died. I think that’s gonna raise the stakes on getting Trump’s head on a fuckin platter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 "Shit, maybe i shouldn't have encouraged a violent overthrow of the government i'm a part of..." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Imagine vandalizing property, assaulting people/police, stealing, setting stuff on fire. I mean who does that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mortir said: Imagine vandalizing property, assaulting people/police, stealing, setting stuff on fire. I mean who does that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: That feeling when you gotta pee and the bathroom is just insight, but you still have to tell yourself "No, the time is not right. Not yet." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: Looks like a cool RPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I blame Russia and China for fucking this 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I am SHOCKED that the thing the people were told they should do to regain their freedom happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, Quackers said: First day vs now Kind of inevitable in hindsight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I do not even know what they are so upset about. It is not like the election was stolen from them. Biden just outperformed Trump. There is not a single instance of voter or election fraud to date. I guess conservatives are just sore losers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I'm going to say this may God have mercy on our souls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Seeing Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, and all those other members of Congress being escorted out with armed guards really pissed me off. They helped Trump with his failed coup today. They didn’t deserve protection. They should’ve went out there and met with the constituents that they helped turn crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Seeing Ted Cruz, Lindsay Graham, and all those other members of Congress being escorted out with armed guards really pissed me off. They helped Trump with his failed coup today. They didn’t deserve protection. They should’ve went out there and met with the constituents that they helped turn crazy. Yeah I know right? It is like really? You are going to protect people who are trying to destroy the country? Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Still don't know how big the crowd was but it looks like thousands, and only one thing blue line of cops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackNoir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 And no one had to be brutally killed in the streets to trigger these people.....Just needed to hear a baby crying and there they go. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mortir said: Yeah I know right? It is like really? You are going to protect people who are trying to destroy the country? Sheesh. Stfu with your sarcastic bullshit your people crumble at the slightest adversity , were conned by a grifter. These people tried to overthrow a free and fair election. So please stfu Edited January 7, 2021 by 1pooh4u 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Meanwhile when people were protesting over being murdered in the streets you had nothing but stupid shit to say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 @Mortir take your confusion and fuck your self with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: @Mortir take your confusion and fuck your self with it Look I know emotions are running high we have a group of people literally trying to undermine the will of the people and overturn a fair and legitimate election but we all just need to calm down. Biden will be inaugurated and things will go back to normal and the healing can finally begin. Edited January 7, 2021 by Mortir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Mortir said: Look I know emotions are running high we have a group of people literally trying to undermine the will of the people and overturn a fair and legitimate election but we all just need to calm down. Biden will be inaugurated and things will go back to normal and the healing can finally begin. Kindly stfu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Kindly stfu I feel like I have been very kind but as you wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) The "President of Law and Order" sure can incite some awful chaos and rioting when he doesn't get his way. The rhetoric he uses about minority and at risk groups such as "I never heard of Black Lives Matter," or backing Proud Boys is just appalling and IS the exact reason these actions took place. Our gangster, soon-to-be ex-presidnet caused one of the most embarrassing days in US history. It scares me as an American, it scares me as a human, and it scares me as a democrat. Edited January 7, 2021 by CactusLove 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 What is going to be the word or phrase we use to describe all the dumb events of yesterday? It's not easy to make a catchy date-centric name like "9/11" out of 1/6/21 Has anyone suggested The Bay of Hogs yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, NaBarney said: What is going to be the word or phrase we use to describe all the dumb events of yesterday? It's not easy to make a catchy date-centric name like "9/11" out of 1/6/21 Has anyone suggested The Bay of Hogs yet? On a serious note, it's going to go down in history something along the lines of "Trump Protests turned Trump Riots." Many of them are terrorists and supremacists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, CactusLove said: On a serious note, it's going to go down in history something along the lines of "Trump Protests turned Trump Riots." Many of them are terrorists and supremacists. Yeah it probably will have Trump in the name because that's who caused it. Edited January 7, 2021 by NaBarney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, NaBarney said: Yeah it probably will have Trump in the name because that's who caused it. I have been waiting for Trump supporters to go to terrorist extremes ever since his "liberate michigan" bullstink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 He also never spoke out against racism and does nothing to unite Americans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, NaBarney said: What is going to be the word or phrase we use to describe all the dumb events of yesterday? It's not easy to make a catchy date-centric name like "9/11" out of 1/6/21 Has anyone suggested The Bay of Hogs yet? Good question. I think the "Reichstag Failure" has a nice ring to it. I mean we should all be glad we basically stopped Hitler 2.0 from staging a catastrophe and assuming total power and control as a result. Really dodged a bullet imo. Those cops that shot and killed those insurrectionist nazis are national heroes and should all be awarded the Medal of Honor by Joe Biden on January 21. Edited January 7, 2021 by Mortir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mortir said: Good question. I think the "Reichstag Failure" has a nice ring to it. I mean we should all be glad we basically stopped Hitler 2.0 from staging a catastrophe and assuming total power and control as a result. Really dodged a bullet imo. Those cops that shot and killed those seditious nazis are national heroes and should all be awarded the Medal of Honor by Joe Biden on January 21. Omg, are you really bucket again? It's time to raw dog a Mexican whore to remember how risk works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Huh? No I am just glad that the conservative nazis were not successful in stealing this completely legitimate and lawful election that was handedly won by Joe Biden. They underestimated the power of the people, the people that disagree with all their hatred and oppression. Good triumphed over evil. It is hard to not be ecstatic about this. Finally. This four year nightmare is coming to an end in just two short weeks. Blessed be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNN Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 lol trump is the biggest irl troll ive ever seen. i thought his antics in 2016 to 2017 was enough to claim that title, but now it is claimed hands down. maybe he knows he will die before 2024 and decided to burn down everything as much as he can before he leaves/is forced out. he made nixon look like a grade school yard bully, in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackNoir Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Mortir said: Huh? No I am just glad that the conservative nazis were not successful in stealing this completely legitimate and lawful election that was handedly won by Joe Biden. They underestimated the power of the people, the people that disagree with all their hatred and oppression. Good triumphed over evil. It is hard to not be ecstatic about this. Finally. This four year nightmare is coming to an end in just two short weeks. Blessed be. If it's any consolation, I'll believe your new character just as i did the rest...I mean, the worst that is going to happen is the 2 tenors singing pills every time they see you...Hardly scathing and worth the effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Mortir said: I feel like I have been very kind but as you wish. Your sarcasm is obvious. That’s why I kindly asked for you to stfu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I know this is speaking the long since obvious, but after yesterday, this is the exclamation point on the whole thing. There is NO denying it now. Only the most braindead, brainwashed, racist people will still NOT believe Trump was the worst president in U.S. history. There is no contest. "You really think Hillary would have done any better?" Not only would Hillary have done better... GWB would have done better.... Ozzy fucking Osbourne would have done better.... Air Bud would have done better.... a pet rock would have done better.... Nabs would have done better. I have no doubts I will not see a worse U.S. president in my lifetime.... but will this country EVENTUALLY get someone even worse, by the time climate change destroys our civilization? On the one hand, it happened once, it can happen again.... On the other hand, Germany has done a bang-up job of not letting another Hitler rise to power. Back to the first hand, Hitler's rise to power wasn't even 100 years ago, and we probably got well beyond 100 years before our civilization is done for. So, we'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I like how nabs pushed out trump but couldn't beat the pet rock.... Speaking of which, i wish the rock was president 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, cyberbully said: I like how nabs pushed out trump but couldn't beat the pet rock.... Speaking of which, i wish the rock was president Honestly Nabs was last because he was an afterthought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, NNN said: lol trump is the biggest irl troll ive ever seen. i thought his antics in 2016 to 2017 was enough to claim that title, but now it is claimed hands down. maybe he knows he will die before 2024 and decided to burn down everything as much as he can before he leaves/is forced out. he made nixon look like a grade school yard bully, in comparison. Nixon got shit done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 7 hours ago, NaBarney said: What is going to be the word or phrase we use to describe all the dumb events of yesterday? It's not easy to make a catchy date-centric name like "9/11" out of 1/6/21 Has anyone suggested The Bay of Hogs yet? let's go with the "mostly peaceful end of 2020" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 We could xall it the Beer Hall Putsch but that name has already been taken by the last time this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: We could xall it the Beer Hall Putsch but that name has already been taken by the last time this happened. i could have sworn i just read that suggestion somewhere else earlier. did you cross post this or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: We could xall it the Beer Hall Putsch but that name has already been taken by the last time this happened. The Olive Garden Putsch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, wacky1980 said: i could have sworn i just read that suggestion somewhere else earlier. did you cross post this or something? Not today no. Also guess whos fault this is- biden, antifa, and blm. https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/07/spare-me-biden-and-democrats-never-cared-about-law-and-order/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Not today no. Also guess whos fault this is- biden, antifa, and blm. https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/07/spare-me-biden-and-democrats-never-cared-about-law-and-order/ some rando named evita duffy absolutely gets to call the shots on this thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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