That_One_Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I've watched the commercial several times and I can't figure out why people find it offensive. I genuinely want to hear opinions about why it's offensive because I don't understand. Or you can just ignore this shit. We're all going to die anyway. Edited January 17, 2019 by That_One_Guy
wacky1980 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 dudes are finding it offensive because it challenges their perception of manliness. also, vast liberal conspiracy to further the pussification of america, etc etc. 1
That_One_Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Author Posted January 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, wacky1980 said: dudes are finding it offensive because it challenges their perception of manliness. also, vast liberal conspiracy to further the pussification of america, etc etc. Ohhh.... Sounds like insecurity imo
wacky1980 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, That_One_Guy said: Ohhh.... Sounds like insecurity imo pretty much, yeah.
Mini_ghost420 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) I think if your manliness is challenged by this commercial, then yes, your manliness is challenged indeed Edited January 17, 2019 by Mini_Ghost 1
GunStarHero Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Saw a top comment on YouTube saying it was things like that commercial that make "trannys." That's right, little Davey. That's exactly how they're made. 1
fuggstop Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I think it makes men feel bad as they should feel and they dont want their awfulness challenged because they like being pigs 1
1pooh4u Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 lol, I'm reading the comments and thinkin, "lol, thanks for proving their point, jackasses" 1 1
MasterBox Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 This would be he perfect time for some beard grooming company to make a meme of it cause real men sport beards. 1
wacky1980 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, fuggstop said: I think it makes men feel bad as they should feel and they dont want their awfulness challenged because they like being pigs it didn't make me feel bad or angry or anything. i was pretty cool with it. there's nothing wrong with being fair and kind, nor promoting the same.
fuggstop Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, wacky1980 said: it didn't make me feel bad or angry or anything. i was pretty cool with it. there's nothing wrong with being fair and kind, nor promoting the same. Maybe becuz u aint a pig
wacky1980 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, fuggstop said: Maybe becuz u aint a pig nah, i'm totally a pig. i just know when to bite my tongue. 2
molarbear Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 4 hours ago, That_One_Guy said: I've watched the commercial several times and I can't figure out why people find it offensive. I genuinely want to hear opinions about why it's offensive because I don't understand. Or you can just ignore this shit. We're all going to die anyway. All I took away from the commercial was Gillette was saying "Try to be a decent human being" That offended some people because it didn't fix their tiny dick problems
fuggstop Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, wacky1980 said: nah, i'm totally a pig. i just know when to bite my tongue. Good. Some men dont
That_One_Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Author Posted January 17, 2019 I appreciate everyone's input. It's been really insightful. I see people trying to knit pick about why this commercial is wrong, and honestly it's sad. I think it's an inspiring piece of art. I see its message as "not all men are bad, but some are and those men need to be checked." I think the perfect way to sum it up would be to say it's ok to hit on a woman, but it's not ok harass her. Simple. I don't see why that's bad. I also see it as encouraging women to be strong. Which is tits, bro.
That_One_Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Author Posted January 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, ghostrek said: has men i dont care Hell yeah dude
scoobdog Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 I've been trying to figure out what exactly is triggering the negative response to the commercial. Ostensibly, it doesn't really delve deep into the issues with male identity that tend to drive this hysteria (on the part of men), it just pokes at the most obvious of masculinity stereotypes and counters with the most basic of decency interventions. There shouldn't be anything controversial about disavowing blatant sexism in the media and stepping in against workplace and casual sexual harassment. After thinking on it a bit, I think it's possible that this is just an extension of men struggling with their identity. A friend on FB was discussing an (unfortunately) routine case of body shaming and bullying by middle schoolers at her daughter's school, and it occurred to me that a big issue with both bullying and sexual harassment is this underlying failure by society as a whole to accommodate men as nurturers. It's a misconception that men need to become feminine to nurture; there's more than enough historical evidence to indicate that men can act as passive facilitators through any number of means, not the least of which is simply listening and asking questions. The issue is that we as a society have lost the desire to do this. Sometimes its couched in the debate over politics; sometimes its couched on the debate over identity and an obligation for men to hear things. Neither is truly the case: listening is at its most important precisely when the person speaking doesn't know what to say or doesn't feel like she (or he) deserves a say and it doesn't involve offering any commentary or opinion. That might be the true issue here. Men have always been expected to have an opinion on something for their act of listening to be acknowledged. It's part of a greater metric of measuring success by the accomplishments one accrues. We often reward good grades and sporting successes, for children of all genders, either through verbal approval or through raising the child's stature amongst his, her or their peers. But, we don't reward anyone for sacrificing of themselves to enable others. This commercial only hints at this in the most basic of terms by showing men who step in to stop obvious bad behavior.
Hornshire Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 Most of the anger is not about the content of the ad, in and of itself. It's about the larger narrative that fails to acknowledge any positive aspects of masculinity. We suspect many people that have a strong dislike of it did not come across it organically, but were introduced to it by someone else, billing it as controversial, thus primed for a negative reaction. There may also be some resentment, a much smaller proportion though, about morals being handed down by a corporation- key word being "down". 1
Naraku4656 Posted January 17, 2019 Posted January 17, 2019 i have no idea. i read about the controversy and i don't get it. granted i didn't watch the ad but i also don't really care
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 I can see guys getting annoyed at the guy stopping the other one from trying to hit on a chick. I didn't get that, it didn't show him hounding a woman all night, just trying to get a cute girl walking down the street. It could start to raise a question of what harassment really is, when is bad flirting harassment, is it ever. That could get some colorful internet discussions going. I can already see incels blanket claim of saying they are that and none of it is true. Hitting each other and hooting at women is what humans do, and most of them still wanna do it. Even the people that wrote the commercial have these traits in them. But aggression displays are very popular in wildlife, with the aim of avoiding confrontation. What better way to avoid confrontation and be aggrssive than to type a buch of hateful rhetoric and post it on the internet.
BlackNoir Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 I still haven't seen this commercial and I pride myself on the fact that I don't watch commercials. 1
BlackNoir Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 11 hours ago, ghostrek said: has men i dont care You heard it here....Ghostrek has men and he doesn't care because no one can challenge his masculinity.
Codename: Jackass Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 Also, why does anybody get that bent out of shape about a commercial for razors?
RainyDayJizz#35 Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, empty said: Also, why does anybody get that bent out of shape about a commercial for razors? That could also be a problem. It wasn't really a razor commercial, but gillette making a statement aimed at men. I couldn't call it a psa, but it was like one. maybe the ceo was banging his secretary and this was the divorce settlement.
Codename: Jackass Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 I just watched the commercial. I can see why MAGA nerds are so upset. Ya know, women are chattel and this is the year 500.
Gyaos Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 I'm sick of the talk about it from both sides, if you want a completely honest answer.
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 The CEO's thick as fuck Boston accent is atrocious. Oh, you guys are talking about a different commercial. I haven't seen that one.
scoobdog Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 21 hours ago, Kweerie said: Most of the anger is not about the content of the ad, in and of itself. It's about the larger narrative that fails to acknowledge any positive aspects of masculinity. We suspect many people that have a strong dislike of it did not come across it organically, but were introduced to it by someone else, billing it as controversial, thus primed for a negative reaction. There may also be some resentment, a much smaller proportion though, about morals being handed down by a corporation- key word being "down". But the commercial portays positive masculinity.
bnmjy Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 I saw the commercial and idgaf. People can take their retarded worthless opinions and shove them deep into fugg's hooha.
Hornshire Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, scoobdog said: But the commercial portays positive masculinity. Not in the first three seconds, so it doesn't count. Besides, you think outrage mobs care about inconvenient details? That's cute. The frustration precedes the event, and is just waiting for a trigger that's close enough to unleash.
scoobdog Posted January 18, 2019 Posted January 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kweerie said: Not in the first three seconds, so it doesn't count. Besides, you think outrage mobs care about inconvenient details? That's cute. The frustration precedes the event, and is just waiting for a trigger that's close enough to unleash. True.
Distortedreasoning Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 just saw the commercial the other day and it felt like the same corporate bullshit to me. nothing to get upset about, just another company like nike trying to capitalize on taking a moral high ground. 1
PhilosipherStoned Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 Same, though I only saw it on PEW news. It's basicallly just OVERLY PC cringe from what I can tell.Feminists should be happy with it at least.. Oh wait.. that's some kinf of oxymoron.. hyperbole? whatever.
PhilosipherStoned Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Distortedreasoning said: just saw the commercial the other day and it felt like the same corporate bullshit to me. nothing to get upset about, just another company like nike trying to capitalize on taking a moral high ground. It kind of reminded me of this Pepsi commercial, but Gilette found a way to sound like more of a bitch. The irony here is a nice pallet cleanser...
PhilosipherStoned Posted January 19, 2019 Posted January 19, 2019 Here's the commercial. I forgot to put it in the post, and the editor wouldn't let me save an edit..frustrating/ 1
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