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2024 Presidential Elections: the schadenfreude commences


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26 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

So multiple groups of people voting directly against their own self-interests for...what exactly?

"Fuck you, got mine."

It's a hispanic tradition. We're not minorities! We worked hard to be here! Bootstraps! Fuck you! Cubans are white! Anything left of MAGA is communist!

Should've bought calls instead holy shit

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1 hour ago, Insipid said:

A paradigm shift is indeed happening. It is not wise to call the GOP the party of racists when it managed to gain a huge proportion of the Latino vote this time, despite all of Trump's rhetoric against Hispanics. Many more LGBT people voted Republican this time too.

Sigh, it's not over yet.

Well Latinos can be racist too, but that's not what it is.  There isn't a paradigm shift, though.  Like I said - this is the last gasp of the dying macho man.

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This could be the moment where I give up on being a patriotic American. Like, I have doubts whether I will ever vote again. I could conclude the system is so corrupt that it's not worth saving.

That's part of needing time to process it. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Belize said:

This could be the moment where I give up on being a patriotic American. Like, I have doubts whether I will ever vote again. I could conclude the system is so corrupt that it's not worth saving.

That's part of needing time to process it. 

 

If this is how things turn out, then this country is the dumbest bunch of motherfuckers on the entire planet, and we deserve whatever the fuck happens to us. Honestly, if he wins, I hope to God the economy craters. I hope things go to shit, especially for every single asshole who voted for him. This is what you wanted, fuckface. Fucking wear it.

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1 minute ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Ive been right on everything so far.

Dead on with my EC predictions, and the Senate races are going exactly like I said.

I’ll give you something nice if it breaks for Harris in the morning like you predicted.

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10 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

If this is how things turn out, then this country is the dumbest bunch of motherfuckers on the entire planet, and we deserve whatever the fuck happens to us. Honestly, if he wins, I hope to God the economy craters. I hope things go to shit, especially for every single asshole who voted for him. This is what you wanted, fuckface. Fucking wear it.

People *do* get the country they deserve, for sure. I could add that I don't really have anything in common with the people who voted for Trump. Nor do I want to have anything in common with them. If there were some way the negative consequences could be reserved just for them. 

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1 minute ago, Jman said:

I’ll give you something nice if it breaks for Harris in the morning like you predicted.

I kinda doubt its going to happen.

As I sit here now I think I got the WH and House calls wrong. Trump has the clear advantage for the White House and probably popular vote, and I think Democrats with the House with a 2-5 Seat advantage.

Trump simply has a huge advantage right now, and all he needs is a single Blue Wall state. Hes leading in all 3 right now. NYT has him at a greater than 95% chance of winning, and thinks that PA is going to be called soon. Trump is probably going to win more than 300 EC votes, and may have a clear governing mandate at that. Something I simply did not believe was going to happen.

Rumor is that the Secret Services has dispatched a full Presidential detail to Florida to start working with Trump.

Probably most indicative of all is how the Harris campaign is acting. They are pulling a page directly from the Hillary playbook. She wont speak tonight, and instead she sent out one of her staffers to tell people to go home.

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1 hour ago, stilgar said:

What dumb motherfuckers.

The cynic in me wonders how anyone (sane) would even want to be president after this. It doesn't even matter how good a candidate you might be if people will actively vote to cram their dicks in a shredder.

But hey. Guess we probably won't have to worry about that problem for a while now. :|

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I guess my ingrained pessimism doesn't allow me to have much of a reaction to this.

I told y'all long ago black men were gonna fuck it up ...Latinos ducking it up wasn't on my bingo card, but I can definitely see how it played out that way.

Bottom line is now that it's said and done, I can go back to just worrying about me since the vast majority of us, it seems, don't give a shit about other people and that sentiment entails that not one president ever has stopped the systematic racism, my financial situation only changes when I actively change something, and we are the catalyst for international feuding... Not the solution, business as usual....just upset I have to look at this clown while it happens.

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I think I'm changing my party to unaffiliated. I just can't in good conscience call myself a Democrat anymore, although I'll definitely vote for one again. PA is a closed primary state, but this is a small sacrifice I'm willing to make. I'm really tired of the partisan crap. I doubt it will get better, but I can at least do this for myself.

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6 hours ago, Insipid said:

A paradigm shift is indeed happening. It is not wise to call the GOP the party of racists when it managed to gain a huge proportion of the Latino vote this time, despite all of Trump's rhetoric against Hispanics. Many more LGBT people voted Republican this time too.

Sigh, it's not over yet.

? @Insipid That one I don't get the Republicans are supposed to be anti-lgbtq but of course conservatism economically and militarily knows no  identity

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Having slept a bit on it, provided that there isn’t poll fuckery, the easiest explanation is that the massive post-COVID inflation, particularly in housing, is the biggest thing that screwed over the Democrats.  The second biggest thing is that conservatives are virtually uncontested in social media between the manosphere, GriftTube, etc.

But when push comes to shove, your average person was voting against the fact that they can’t afford to buy a house their parents could easily, and that groceries cost more and more of their paycheck.  The problem is that Trump is NOT the person to solve that, unless he’s somehow going to try to drive Blackrock out of business because their president called him a man baby.

I still stand by Trump exiting stage left with a full pardon very early into his term.  Like, six months.  Meanwhile liberals need to build their own answer to the Rogans of the world.

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31 minutes ago, Jman said:

Having slept a bit on it, provided that there isn’t poll fuckery, the easiest explanation is that the massive post-COVID inflation, particularly in housing, is the biggest thing that screwed over the Democrats.  The second biggest thing is that conservatives are virtually uncontested in social media between the manosphere, GriftTube, etc.

But when push comes to shove, your average person was voting against the fact that they can’t afford to buy a house their parents could easily, and that groceries cost more and more of their paycheck.  The problem is that Trump is NOT the person to solve that, unless he’s somehow going to try to drive Blackrock out of business because their president called him a man baby.

I still stand by Trump exiting stage left with a full pardon very early into his term.  Like, six months.  Meanwhile liberals need to build their own answer to the Rogans of the world.

And here I thought it was because one of the candidates was a female minority.

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11 minutes ago, PenguinBoss said:

And here I thought it was because one of the candidates was a female minority.

As much of an issue as that might be for some people, it wouldn't work without an entire social media system specifically designed to whitewash (pardon the pun) Trump and put Kamala on the hook for everything from Gaza to to the fact that your average guy is stuck renting eternally.  Or the endless YouTube videos bitching about how pop culture has gone too woke and liberal (Which, by the way idiots, if you don't think a second Trump presidency will drive Hollywood and animation even further left, I have some Trump NFT's to sell you).  

People are not wrong to be upset, but they are supremely dumb to think Donald J Trump, or let's be honest, JD Vance, will do anything to help with that, instead of just setting up their weird theocratic laws that they can.

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14 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

I don't think being attached to Biden helped either

No, it didn't given how horrifically real estate prices slingshotted from their brief COVID discounts.  I fully maintain people weren't voting about minorities or abortion (given that practically every pro-abortion measure save Florida's fucked up 60% law passed with voters, even in red states), but about the groceries.  It's just that "A Chicken in Every Pot and a Car in Every Garage" isn't happening with Trump or Vance either.

 

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1 hour ago, Jman said:

the easiest explanation is that the massive post-COVID inflation, particularly in housing, is the biggest thing that screwed over the Democrats.  

Basically every country with legitimate elections has thrown out the incumbent party in the past year, regardless of which side of the spectrum the party was.

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5 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

Basically every country with legitimate elections has thrown out the incumbent party in the past year, regardless of which side of the spectrum the party was.

Well, yeah, a lot of these countries were suffering.  Unfortunately, their populations are about to realize they've received a false bill of goods.  Look at Argentina.  

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For a look at policy devoid of political party, as per the Times:

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Abortion rights fared well in most places, but their post-Roe undefeated streak ended. In Florida, Nebraska and South Dakota, measures to protect abortion rights failed. (The Florida measure received 57 percent support but needed 60 percent to win.) Measures succeeded in Arizona, Colorado, Maryland, Missouri, Montana and New York.

Nebraska approved medical marijuana, while a measure to legalize recreational marijuana in Florida failed.

Missouri voted to raise its minimum wage to $15 an hour. Two states voted to keep their tipped minimum wages — which apply to many restaurant workers — the same: Massachusetts rejected an increase, and Arizona rejected a decrease.

Idaho, Nevada, Oregon and South Dakota rejected measures to establish ranked choice voting, and Missouri voted to ban the practice. Washington, D.C., approved it.

Nebraska and Kentucky voted against allowing public funds to go to students in private or charter schools.

California voters passed a measure that would charge some shoplifting and drug possession offenses as felonies instead of misdemeanors.

Ohio rejected a measure to replace its legislature’s partisan redistricting system with an independent commission.

 

Florida fuckery aside, you see a lot of policies here that aren't exactly what one would call conservative.  Medical marijuana and abortion win.  Minimum wage increases did decently well.  Two solid red states rejected sending taxpayer money to private schools.  

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1 minute ago, Jman said:

For a look at policy devoid of political party, as per the Times:

Florida fuckery aside, you see a lot of policies here that aren't exactly what one would call conservative.  Medical marijuana and abortion win.  Minimum wage increases did decently well.  Two solid red states rejected sending taxpayer money to private schools.  

You also saw weird ballots where some dem candidates won but the Trump won the state. It's very weird

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