1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: One time I got pulled over (can't exactly remember for what but VERY most likely speeding), so as I was waiting for the cop to come to my window I quickly dug out my registration from my glove box and my license from my wallet and immediately tried handing it to him. He looked at it but didn't take it and asked me what I was doing. I said it's my license and registration. He said I could put it away. I said you don't need to see it? He said, no that's just something Hollywood (meaning TV/movies etc) does. I think he told me police very rarely need to see people's registration and often don't need to see their license. Must be a Cali thing cuz it’s the first thing the oinks ask for when they pull you over out here. License insurance and registration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, 1pooh4u said: Must be a Cali thing cuz it’s the first thing the oinks ask for when they pull you over out here. License insurance and registration Huh. Weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 In my experience they just run your plates in their squad car and that gets all the info they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Doom Metal Alchemist said: Huh. Weird. How long ago was this? NY doesn’t have, or it’s not widely had, something in the license plate that’s a chip or some shit that has all that info that cops can just scan or some shit. Maybe you had that? Idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, 1pooh4u said: How long ago was this? NY doesn’t have, or it’s not widely had, something in the license plate that’s a chip or some shit that has all that info that cops can just scan or some shit. Maybe you had that? Idk. What I assume they did is just look at my plate and enter in the number in some....machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Doom Metal Alchemist said: What I assume they did is just look at my plate and enter in the number in some....machine. Also the first time I ever got pulled over was 2006 or 2007. This was later than that, but I have no idea how much later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 If you're black they want all that shit...if you don't have it, prepare to be fucked with and/or locked up 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 It’s done Roe v Wade is officially no more https://nypost.com/2022/06/24/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-wade/amp/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 So issues that harm no one is left up to the states but the things that will kill us are not. Wonderful world we live in 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Both Roe and Casey overturned. Putting this one out there just in case it actually happens. Could be an interesting night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: It’s done Roe v Wade is officially no more https://nypost.com/2022/06/24/supreme-court-overturns-roe-v-wade/amp/ Tx, Ms, Ok, and Ga...all places I've lived and now the only place I've lived that doesn't hate women is Cali 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 I’m probably going to a protest tonight at 8 pm I’m assuming it’s tonight because it was dependent on when the decision was released gonna be a lot of dead women and pregnant teens. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Someone check on Ginguy… hopefully he hasn’t beaten his dick raw yet to all of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Both Roe and Casey overturned. Putting this one out there just in case it actually happens. Could be an interesting night. I hope it happens. Fuck them all. The violence that might happen needs to happen. No one has the right to tell anyone else what to do with their bodies. Pregnancy isn’t a communicable illness. Life does not begin at fertilization. Life begins when labor begins and the baby is free from the womb. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Oh its about to be some shit. They decided to start my day of with rage. AND I just watched Who We Are: A Chronicle of Racism in America 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 So the only difference between the leaked opinion and the actual opinion is that the opinion in the leak that said this applies to abortion rights and those rights only is a lie. Now we go back to the 1950’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 This is fuckin outrageous to ignore precedent in order to mold this country to what the right wants is a fuckin disgrace. Bowing to precedent was mostly a good thing so future courts couldn’t undo what a prior SCOTUS has decided. Fuck them all and may they never have a moment of peace ever again. Not at work. Not at home. NOT ANYWHERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: So the only difference between the leaked opinion and the actual opinion is that the opinion in the leak that said this applies to abortion rights and those rights only is a lie. Now we go back to the 1950’s. No, Thomas went out on a limb to say that because this legal holding only applies to abortion, he's ready and willing to apply the analysis to everything else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: So the only difference between the leaked opinion and the actual opinion is that the opinion in the leak that said this applies to abortion rights and those rights only is a lie. Now we go back to the 1950’s. No, the 1850s. We are losing control of our bodies - how long before we lose other rights? Maybe the court will next address whether letting us have the vote was a mistake? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 It’s just fucking wild, and I’ll never understand what it’s like for any of this outside of what people tell they are feeling because I’m lucky enough to be a really white, male… and I pass all the smell tests and visual ones too. My wife left work early, and a couple of her nurses colleagues did too…. It’s truly heartbreaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: No, Thomas went out on a limb to say that because this legal holding only applies to abortion, he's ready and willing to apply the analysis to everything else. So he just gave a wink to any state that wants to restrict those issues in some way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: So he just gave a wink to any state that wants to restrict those issues in some way? He's saying "if you bring these issues to the supreme court, you'll have at least one of the five votes you need." The counterpoint is the reason Alito was specific that this only applies to abortion is because he needed to limit it to abortion to get the five votes. Because the legal analysis here is just filling in for the politics of a 50-year campaign to do this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, mthor said: No, the 1850s. We are losing control of our bodies - how long before we lose other rights? Maybe the court will next address whether letting us have the vote was a mistake? This is disastrous but a loud minority doesn’t care cuz they’re getting everything they ever wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Raptorpat said: He's saying "if you bring these issues to the supreme court, you'll have at least one of the five votes you need." The counterpoint is the reason Alito was specific that this only applies to abortion is because he needed to limit it to abortion to get the five votes. Because the legal analysis here is just filling in for the politics of a 50-year campaign to do this. I don’t believe there will be any issues getting the votes if it’s put before them. I have no confidence in this court. I think Thomas Kavanaugh Gorsuch and ACB should be removed from the bench. I can’t lie during a job interview and keep my job but people that actually mold the country can? Joke court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Still trying to reconcile how you can argue trying to interpret laws from the perspective of the authors of the constitution when those authors were white supremacist. Women and people of color weren't meant to have any rights in the first place. 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 You know we talk a lot about how "we're going back to the days of the founding fathers" but we ignore the fact that the textbook Benjamin Franklin wrote as the basis for the American education system specifically included instructions for at-home abortions. But what do i know. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: You know we talk a lot about how "we're going back to the days of the founding fathers" but we ignore the fact that the textbook Benjamin Franklin wrote as the basis for the American education system specifically included instructions for at-home abortions. But what do i know. Hey!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: You know we talk a lot about how "we're going back to the days of the founding fathers" but we ignore the fact that the textbook Benjamin Franklin wrote as the basis for the American education system specifically included instructions for at-home abortions. But what do i know. I feel like I'm missing your point ... are you saying at home abortions have been around when the founding fathers were around ? yes ... because back room/home abortions have been around for as long as there have been pregnancies Edited June 24, 2022 by Vamped 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 .... somebody upset because I called the founding fathers what they were .... white supremacists? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: But what do i know. ....so we ARE going back then because at home is the only thing fully on the table at this point until the states take their stances 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Vamped said: .... somebody upset because I called the founding fathers what they were .... white supremacists? They say it's packman, but I think it's a dude slightly smellier than a geriatric janitor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vamped said: I feel like I'm missing your point ... are you saying at home abortions have been around when the founding fathers were around ? yes ... because back room/home abortions have been around for as long as their have been pregnancies Not "back room abortions", instuctions for safe, at home, pharmaceutical abortions, essentially "how to make plan B before plan B existed'. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099244635/for-ben-franklin-abortion-was-basic-arithmetic I mean yeah, founding fathers were hella racist, but we're not trying to "go back to their time." They lived in the "age of enlightenment". We want to go back into the darkness. Edited June 24, 2022 by SwimModSponges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vamped said: .... somebody upset because I called the founding fathers what they were .... white supremacists? It’s Packard. Ignore him. He’s garbage and doesn’t have the balls to say anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 ...I believe the point was that (one of) the founding fathers believed in access to abortion, given that at-home was the best you could get at the time. Thus, this ruling, like most, cites the "founding fathers" with no consideration to their beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, SwimModSponges said: Not "back room abortions", instuctions for safe, at home, pharmaceutical abortions, essentially "how to make plan B before plan B existed'. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099244635/for-ben-franklin-abortion-was-basic-arithmetic I mean yeah, founding fathers were hella racist, but we're not trying to "go back to their time." They lived in the "age of enlightenment". We want to go back into the darkness. Dude how stupid have you become in your “break” from this place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: We want to go back into the darkness. See y'all after the mid terms when Trump is appointed speaker of the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/wolf-abortion-services-available-and-unharmed-in-pennsylvania/article_9a72e156-f3ce-11ec-9a44-779ca85154ee.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Not "back room abortions", instuctions for safe, at home, pharmaceutical abortions, essentially "how to make plan B before plan B existed'. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/16/1099244635/for-ben-franklin-abortion-was-basic-arithmetic I mean yeah, founding fathers were hella racist, but we're not trying to "go back to their time." They lived in the "age of enlightenment". We want to go back into the darkness. Unfortunately, most herbal concoctions that cause abortion can also result in kidney or liver damage or death, but hey, we're women - it's not like we make sperm or anything. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Sawdamizer said: https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/wolf-abortion-services-available-and-unharmed-in-pennsylvania/article_9a72e156-f3ce-11ec-9a44-779ca85154ee.html Seems that could change though ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, 1pooh4u said: Seems that could change though ☹️ It could… but it’s a good indication of the people in power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, mthor said: Unfortunately, most herbal concoctions that cause abortion can also result in kidney or liver damage or death, but hey, we're women - it's not like we make sperm or anything. I guess your response was less incendiary… but since he chose this thread to come back officially… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, Sawdamizer said: I guess your response was less incendiary… but since he chose this thread to come back officially… He left already. I guess he tested the waters and decided it’s still too cold, or too hot? Wtf knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, mthor said: Unfortunately, most herbal concoctions that cause abortion can also result in kidney or liver damage or death, but hey, we're women - it's not like we make sperm or anything. Ffs, he ain't saying we should bring that back or anything. It was the best available at the time, and was a widely accepted practice. Medical advancements made it safer, and somehow it's become less acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said: He left already. I guess he tested the waters and decided it’s still too cold, or too hot? Wtf knows I really just didn't understand the first post, then he said the founding fathers were enlightened and I got a flashback of the cheese "greater" thing and decided I didn't care 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, rpgamer said: Ffs, he ain't saying we should bring that back or anything. It was the best available at the time, and was a widely accepted practice. Medical advancements made it safer, and somehow it's become less acceptable. The point is that every sperm is sacred, but the incubators not so much. Then and now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Maybe it's just time for a new constitution. It may seem like such a radical idea to the American mind, but constitutions have been rewritten frequently in most other countries. To say something is unconstitutional based on a document written such a long time ago seems pretty retarded. A lot has changed since then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, mthor said: The point is that every sperm is sacred, but the incubators not so much. Then and now. In hindsight, it does start to make sense why some folks would take issue with reducing risk to women... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: I guess your response was less incendiary… but since he chose this thread to come back officially… I still post, just incredibly slowly. Also not going to argue my inent. Pro-choice af and referring to time periods by what they're known as, but sure. Let's all change the focus of the topic to attacking me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Just now, rpgamer said: In hindsight, it does start to make sense why some folks would take issue with reducing risk to women... You just get this now? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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