Draft ruling shows Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade: report

[ZoomBubba]

Well, hope the people who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 feel like shit. You purist dumbfucks and shit swallowing fuckheads who thought you were going to send a message to the Democrats by shoving your thumbs into your own peeholes. 

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The Supreme Court is poised to overturn the landmark 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade that protects the federal right to abortion, according to a draft majority opinion published Monday evening by Politico.

The 67-page document, described as an initial draft majority opinion penned by Justice Samuel Alito, one of the court’s staunchest conservatives, concludes with the majority stating that the Constitution says nothing about the rights of states to regulate or prohibit abortion, in contrast to Roe and the court’s 1992 decision in Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

“We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives,” the opinion states. Under those cases, states were prohibited from banning abortion prior to fetal viability, around 23 weeks.

 

Draft ruling shows Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade: report | The Hill

[Nablonsky]

12 minutes ago, ZoomBubba said:

Well, hope the people who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 feel like shit.

You think that's bad, just think about what the people who voted for Joe Biden in 2020 must be feeling like. 

[Nablonsky]

The Democrats' plan to deal with and safeguard the American people against a virulently right-wing 6-3 Supreme Court - whine and cry about 2016 apparently LMFAO

Edited May 3, 2022 by Nablonsky

[Nablonsky]

Why won't Joe Biden's Democrats do anything about this?

 

 

[Top Gun]

Could you maybe take your inane broken-record prattle somewhere else for once in your life?

[Nablonsky]

Just now, Top Gun said:

Could you maybe take your inane broken-record prattle somewhere else for once in your life?

Hey now go easy on OP, I mean I basically agree but we don't want him deleting all his posts again

[ZoomBubba]

14 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Could you maybe take your inane broken-record prattle somewhere else for once in your life?

The "ignore" feature helps when it comes to those who continuously post in bad faith and barf up strawmen. It's kind of like removing the obnoxious billboards so you can see the scenery when you go on a drive. 

It's not about "oh, they have opinions that offend me" it's more like "their posts don't add anything to the conversation hand," if there is one, of course. 

[Nablonsky]

6 minutes ago, ZoomBubba said:

The "ignore" feature helps when it comes to those who continuously post in bad faith and barf up strawmen. It's kind of like removing the obnoxious billboards so you can see the scenery when you go on a drive. 

It's not about "oh, they have opinions that offend me" it's more like "their posts don't add anything to the conversation hand," if there is one, of course. 

Here's a conversation starter - what is the Democrats plan to do anything about any of this? Nothing, right? I mean they've had well over a full year now. If they have any strategy at all to deal with this - aside from the usual 'dont get mad, vote!' campaign refrain - now would be the best time to reveal it. Before would have been better, but before is over. Is it really just "admit defeat?"

Isn't that a little bit ridiculous? 

That just because tv game show host Donald Trump won - "stole" ! - an election, that now it doesn't matter what the Dems do for the next however many decades it takes for enough dem appointees to hobble onto whatever is left of the court and this planet by then.

Biden won, the Dems won all of Congress, and yet we are governed by... Republican judges and Joe Manchin?

Edited May 3, 2022 by Nablonsky

[scoobdog]

Color me surprised Nabs cares about women's rights.

[stilgar]

43 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Color me surprised Nabs cares about women's rights.

He only cares because he can use it as a way to shit on democrats while he gives republicans a free pass. 

[scoobdog]

11 minutes ago, stilgar said:

He only cares because he can use it as a way to shit on democrats while he gives republicans a free pass. 

Nabs will show those dasrardly Dems the error of their ways, no matter how many dead women it takes.

[1pooh4u]

Dems fucked up. Did they even attempt to expand the SC?  There was absolutely nothing they could’ve done about Manchin and Sinema blocking everything?  Idk the Republicans censure the fuck outta Republicans that don’t fall in line with their message.   At the end of the day yeah conservative Republicans are doing this but it’s not like we did anything to stop it.  
 

I’m not going to continue arguing about what Dems did or didn’t do when it’s Republicans that made underhanded moves to stack the SC with exactly overturning Roe V Wade in mind though. This is a real, serious issue that’s going to hurt mostly women and certainly anyone that can get pregnant. The fuckin exact people saying “you can’t tell us what to do with our bodies” are rejoicing right now as the SC decided to tell people the government can, in fact, tell you what to do with our bodies. Amazing how that fuckin works. 

[1pooh4u]

4 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Nabs will show those dasrardly Dems the error of their ways, no matter how many dead women it takes.

Yeah fuck Nabs because he doesn’t gaf that abortion rights and protections could very well be over. He only cares to make immature arguments to upset people. Nabs doesn’t believe in shit. Fuck Nabs. 

[Sawdamizer]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61301911
 

Ha yes, Amazon missing the mark again for a headline… access to healthcare will depend on where you work, so bring them your poor and they will travel you to far off places to get abortions.. you know, because they truly care…

 

[1pooh4u]

11 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61301911
 

Ha yes, Amazon missing the mark again for a headline… access to healthcare will depend on where you work, so bring them your poor and they will travel you to far off places to get abortions.. you know, because they truly care…

 

It’s better than nothing but it doesn’t really help the majority of people that are going to be impacted if the leaked decision is THE decision 

[Seight]

One of the states' abortion laws that was awful got challenged to the Supreme Court, allowing Roe v. Wade to be overturned, and allowing most of the other states' awful abortion laws to stay intact.

Everyone wins as long as you're a terrible person!  

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, Seight said:

One of the states' abortion laws that was awful got challenged to the Supreme Court, allowing Roe v. Wade to be overturned, and allowing most of the other states' awful abortion laws to stay intact.

Everyone wins as long as you're a terrible person!  

What happened last night is exactly why those states made such fucked up laws in the first place, to be challenged in the SC to overturn Roe v Wade and Casey v idr

[Poof]

10 hours ago, Nablonsky said:

Why won't Joe Biden's Democrats do anything about this?

 

 

because you didn't do anything about it Nabs. More people have to vote for democrats if they want them to be able to do anything

I actually think it's fine. Everyone's like "I'm gonna send a message to the democrats by not voting for them"

Well, actions (or inaction) have consequences. You guys better vote

Edited May 3, 2022 by Poof

[Chapinator_X]

We’re all dying out here from COVID and dead broke from rising costs, but the Supreme Court and Republicans decided that this was the best time to strip women of their rights.

Better yet, Biden and democratic senators are asleep at the wheel as always, so now we’re facing more Republican-led sabotage even with 2/3 branches in control. 

On the bright side, Orrin Hatch ate shit before he could have the satisfaction of hearing the news.  

[ZoomBubba]

56 minutes ago, Chapinator_X said:

We’re all dying out here from COVID and dead broke from rising costs, but the Supreme Court and Republicans decided that this was the best time to strip women of their rights.

Better yet, Biden and democratic senators are asleep at the wheel as always, so now we’re facing more Republican-led sabotage even with 2/3 branches in control. 

On the bright side, Orrin Hatch ate shit before he could have the satisfaction of hearing the news.  

Not much is in Biden or the Democrats' control. Two-thirds sounds like they should have win after win, but the reality is that if you don't have 60-plus senators, you're at the mercy of the minority if they decide to filibuster. Democrats only have a thin majority in the House, which is still at the mercy of the senate when it comes to actually passing laws. 

There's not a lot Biden can do about the court unless two justices die over the next three years. 

The constitution is largely to blame. At the time of its creation, it had a deliberately slow process because there was not really a general American identity at that point and the fear of states separating and creating an opening for a Eruopean imperial power was still pretty real. Not so much anymore, but we're kind of stuck with it until you can get three-fifths of states to agree to amendments or people finally decide it's time for a new one.

[Nablonsky]

14 hours ago, ZoomBubba said:

Well, hope the people who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 feel like shit. You purist dumbfucks and shit swallowing fuckheads who thought you were going to send a message to the Democrats by shoving your thumbs into your own peeholes. 

 

10 minutes ago, ZoomBubba said:

Not much is in Biden or the Democrats' control. Two-thirds sounds like they should have win after win, but the reality is that if you don't have 60-plus senators, you're at the mercy of the minority if they decide to filibuster. Democrats only have a thin majority in the House, which is still at the mercy of the senate when it comes to actually passing laws. 

 

Dems when they have 60+ Senators -

 

 

If the line now is "Dems can't do anything unless they can somehow get an almost un-gettable number of their team's senile and corrupt millionaires seated in one of the least democratic institutions in the world," then why vote for them when it's unwinnable? If the system is really this rigged against us, governed by fake judges and coal barons, then isn't it time to do something else?

The Democrats have failed us. They have failed. All the women who wanted them to protect their abortion rights, they were failed by all the Dems who pointedly, intentionally, never did that before now. 

Edited May 3, 2022 by Nablonsky

[scoobdog]

5 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

Dems fucked up. Did they even attempt to expand the SC?  There was absolutely nothing they could’ve done about Manchin and Sinema blocking everything?  Idk the Republicans censure the fuck outta Republicans that don’t fall in line with their message.   At the end of the day yeah conservative Republicans are doing this but it’s not like we did anything to stop it.  
 

I’m not going to continue arguing about what Dems did or didn’t do when it’s Republicans that made underhanded moves to stack the SC with exactly overturning Roe V Wade in mind though. This is a real, serious issue that’s going to hurt mostly women and certainly anyone that can get pregnant. The fuckin exact people saying “you can’t tell us what to do with our bodies” are rejoicing right now as the SC decided to tell people the government can, in fact, tell you what to do with our bodies. Amazing how that fuckin works. 

I think most people understood this was going to happen when Trump lucked into an open spot with RBGs untimely passing, and it was always going to be questionable whether SC stacking could be a viable option (especially given how slow the GOP has made the confirmation process).  But you’re absolutely right that the Dems didn’t do enough when they could to stop this unfolding crisis.

 Like you said, the Dems should have focused on Universal Health Care and they didn’t.  Child care assistance was a big part of the BBB, but it was already a watered down offering meant to give Manchin and Sinema some cover.  It’s not that green initiatives aren’t important or that the climate isn’t a crisis, its that women’s reproductive rights are intrinsically tied to healthcare and a universal system would have allowed women to get the care they needed across state lines without being burdened by the cost.  You meet the crisis you know will happen before it happens.

[André Toulon]

7 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

 

 

Dems when they have 60+ Senators -

 

 

If the line now is "Dems can't do anything unless they can somehow get an almost un-gettable number of coal barons seated in one of the least democratic institutions in the world," then why vote for them when it's unwinnable? If the system is really this rigged against us, governed by fake judges and coal barons, then isn't it time to do something else?

The Democrats have failed us. They have failed. All the women who wanted them to protect their abortion rights, they were failed by all the Dems who pointedly, intentionally, never did that before now. 

Sooooo....not Biden, and your dishonesty caused you to shit the bed.....again....just because you need that man's dick in your mouth even more than scoobs

[scoobdog]

5 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Sooooo....not Biden, and your dishonesty caused you to shit the bed.....again....just because you need that man's dick in your mouth even more than scoobs

If he needs my cock in his mouth, I can make sure he chokes on it.

Edited May 3, 2022 by scoobdog

[Nablonsky]

8 minutes ago, André Toulon said:

Sooooo....not Biden,

What? I was illustrating how recently the Dems have failed to deliver on legislating abortion protections even when they had 60+ senators, the house, and the presidency. 

Biden won in 2020....it is now 2022....for years now we've all known this was coming with a majority rightwing court.... Biden did nothing to protect us against this. What did his Dems do? What did they try to do? Absolutely nothing is what it looks like. 

"Oh no you see, by the time 2020 happened it was simply too late, all the previous Dem failings are just too insurmountable, to get around all of those losses the Dems would have to do something Real like add justices to the court, and they don't believe in actually governing since none of this is actually as untenable for them as they pretend to claim it is for votes"

The Dems care more about endlessly heaping legitimacy and respect onto completely delegitimized and openly corrupt institutions like the right wing SC and the thoroughly undemocratic Senate which don't represent anyone except the rich and the right wing and are actively ruining all of our lives. 

The democratic party has proven they are not willing to be the vehicle we need to stop this. We see evidence of this every day, abortion rights are just the latest alarming example 

Edited May 3, 2022 by Nablonsky

[Nablonsky]

3 hours ago, Poof said:

because you didn't do anything about it Nabs. More people have to vote for democrats if they want them to be able to do anything

I actually think it's fine. Everyone's like "I'm gonna send a message to the democrats by not voting for them"

Well, actions (or inaction) have consequences. You guys better vote

Remember that graph you posted yesterday about how often the Dems have been in control of Congress over the years? 

Yeah. Wonder why they never got around to enshrining pro choice legislation into law all those many times when people did vote for them. Didn't happen in 2009 or 2010. Didn't happen in 2020 or 2021. Have they just been idly waiting this entire time for the GOP to come along and finally deliver on their long public promise to outlaw abortion? What the fuck is the matter with these Dem sickos who supposedly believe in all these things we care about but then do little to nothing to actually protect those things in the real world, beyond their rhetorical lie-scapes?

[scoobdog]

2 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Remember that graph you posted yesterday about how often the Dems have been in control of Congress over the years? 

Yeah. Wonder why they never got around to enshrining pro choice legislation into law all those many times when people did vote for them. Didn't happen in 2009 or 2010. Didn't happen in 2020 or 2021. Have they just been idly waiting this entire time for the GOP to come along and finally deliver on their long public promise to outlaw abortion? What the fuck is the matter with these Dem sickos who supposedly believe in all these things we care about but then do little to nothing to actually protect those things in the real world, beyond their rhetorical lie-scapes?

What does that have to do with you do nothing about it yourself?

[Vamped]

1 hour ago, Chapinator_X said:

We’re all dying out here from COVID and dead broke from rising costs, but the Supreme Court and Republicans decided that this was the best time to strip women of their rights.

 

Yes .... that's actually a really good time for villainy

[scoobdog]

Also...

7 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Remember that graph you posted yesterday about how often the Dems have been in control of Congress over the years? 

The way a mother fucker assumes everyone has as bad a memory as he does.

[Poof]

52 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

Remember that graph you posted yesterday about how often the Dems have been in control of Congress over the years? 

Yeah. Wonder why they never got around to enshrining pro choice legislation into law all those many times when people did vote for them. Didn't happen in 2009 or 2010. Didn't happen in 2020 or 2021. Have they just been idly waiting this entire time for the GOP to come along and finally deliver on their long public promise to outlaw abortion? What the fuck is the matter with these Dem sickos who supposedly believe in all these things we care about but then do little to nothing to actually protect those things in the real world, beyond their rhetorical lie-scapes?

Control =/= supermajority. 

The 60% line is the most important. Above that line, you have 60% of the seats, and you can pass whatever you want through that chamber, but if you don't, you will need republicans to vote with you. And at the end of the day if you don't have the 60% in the Senate, it doesn't matter what you have in the house. You will have to compromise or do nothing.

So the last time the Democrats had the kind of control you're talking about to pass something without compromising wasn't in 2020 or 2009 it was 1977.

[1pooh4u]

1 hour ago, scoobdog said:

I think most people understood this was going to happen when Trump lucked into an open spot with RBGs untimely passing, and it was always going to be questionable whether SC stacking could be a viable option (especially given how slow the GOP has made the confirmation process).  But you’re absolutely right that the Dems didn’t do enough when they could to stop this unfolding crisis.

 Like you said, the Dems should have focused on Universal Health Care and they didn’t.  Child care assistance was a big part of the BBB, but it was already a watered down offering meant to give Manchin and Sinema some cover.  It’s not that green initiatives aren’t important or that the climate isn’t a crisis, its that women’s reproductive rights are intrinsically tied to healthcare and a universal system would have allowed women to get the care they needed across state lines without being burdened by the cost.  You meet the crisis you know will happen before it happens.

Idk I honestly think politicians and the people believed Kavanaugh, Barrett and Gorsuch when they said roe v Wade and Casey was the law of the land and they weren’t going to undo precedent. At least two of those justices were asked directly during hearings and they straight out lied. Why anyone would believe them is beyond me, but our S.C. is a joke now. The pride they used to take in being a non political branch of government is dead. 

[Nablonsky]

22 minutes ago, Poof said:

So the last time the Democrats had the kind of control you're talking about to pass something without compromising wasn't in 2020 or 2009 it was 1977.

It was 2009 unless you're playing semantics by just not counting independents like Bernie who caucus with the Dems and saying "oh no Bernie's not a democrat so technically they didn't have a filibuster proof majority"

There's plenty of things they could do to pass legislation with less than 60 senators, they just choose not to do any of those things. The republicans do which is why they get what they want and win and continue successfully molding this country in their image.

Your argument that Dems are forever restrained by this self imposed and nigh-impossible 60 Senate seat threshold only hurts your stance that we should continue voting for these people and investing in the Dem party as the vehicle to fight for tangible results on issues like abortion rights despite them pointedly NOT doing that for decades.

If it really does require 60 Senators to do anything, and Dems supposedly can't even govern they way they'd Really like to right now with their razor thin 50 seats, and as a result are about to get BTFO in November, then what hope do we have in this system? Why participate in it if the Dems can't even win, don't even have a blueprint to winning, don't even really compete in a lot of states as it is. It doesn't make sense to claim we care about these things and then also resign ourselves to this Dem party myth that the only thing there is to do is vote for them when the party who gets the most votes doesn't win the most seats. It's rigged against the Democrats which is just how they like it. It's rigged against us, and it is time to do something else.

The people in this party are not your friends and will not help you. It would be nice if we DID have a party that was genuinely committed to fighting for the things in its platform that it claims to stand for, like abortion rights, but we dont. We do not have that, and we haven't for a long time, and that's just the way it is. 

Edited May 3, 2022 by Nablonsky

[ZoomBubba]

1 hour ago, scoobdog said:

I think most people understood this was going to happen when Trump lucked into an open spot with RBGs untimely passing, and it was always going to be questionable whether SC stacking could be a viable option (especially given how slow the GOP has made the confirmation process).  But you’re absolutely right that the Dems didn’t do enough when they could to stop this unfolding crisis.

 Like you said, the Dems should have focused on Universal Health Care and they didn’t.  Child care assistance was a big part of the BBB, but it was already a watered down offering meant to give Manchin and Sinema some cover.  It’s not that green initiatives aren’t important or that the climate isn’t a crisis, its that women’s reproductive rights are intrinsically tied to healthcare and a universal system would have allowed women to get the care they needed across state lines without being burdened by the cost.  You meet the crisis you know will happen before it happens.

Biden and the Democrats made an unforced error with BBB. They overpromised and underdelivered, acting as though they had a mega-majority instead of the razor-thin one they had. Plus, you can't give people the gist of it on a bumper sticker. 

When it was clear that BBB wasn't going to happen, which was Nov. 2020, Dems should've just looked at the most popular parts and focused on those. Sure, they got the infrastructure bill, which is great, but it's not going to cause people to turn out in November. Plus, Democratic leadership in the House, Senate and Executive don't seem to care much about keeping voters or helping incumbents in swing states that lean moderate-to-center-right that barely went Democratic in 2022.  Schumer has been horrible as majority leader,  Pelosi might be able to wrangle votes but her priorities don't resonate outside Democrat +25 districts and Biden seems unable to give up the dream of being the next FDR ... not a winning combo for the party, which I much prefer over the very dangerous alternative.

They just need to be pragmatic and really examine the spot they're in and that's just not happening.

[1pooh4u]

This shit is going to have devastating impacts on the poor and poc regardless of financial means.  

[Poof]

10 minutes ago, Nablonsky said:

It was 2009 unless you're playing semantics by just not counting independents like Bernie who caucus with the Dems and saying "oh no Bernie's not a democrat so technically they didn't have a filibuster proof majority"

There's plenty of things they could do to pass legislation with less than 60 senators, they just choose not to do any of those things. The republicans do which is why they get what they want and win and continue successfully molding this country in their image.

Your argument that Dems are forever restrained by this self imposed and nigh-impossible 60 Senate seat threshold only hurts your stance that we should continue voting for these people and investing in the Dem party as the vehicle to fight for tangible results on issues like abortion rights despite them pointedly NOT doing that for decades.

If it really does require 60 Senators to do anything, and Dems supposedly can't even govern they way they'd Really like to right now with their razor thin 50 seats, and as a result are about to get BTFO in November, then what hope do we have in this system? Why participate in it if the Dems can't even win, don't even have a blueprint to winning, don't even really compete in a lot of states as it is. It doesn't make sense to claim we care about these things and then also resign ourselves to this Dem party myth that the only thing there is to do is vote for them when the party who gets the most votes doesn't win the most seats. It's rigged against the Democrats which is just how they like it. It's rigged against us, and it is time to do something else.

The people in this party are not your friends and will not help you. It would be nice if we DID have a party that was genuinely committed to fighting for the things in its platform that it claims to stand for, like abortion rights, but we dont. We do not have that, and we haven't for a long time, and that's just the way it is. 

In 2009 I was talking about Arlen "40 Years a Republican" Specter. Not everything in the world is about Bernie Sanders.

You draw a roadmap to all the goals you want the democrats to achieve without 60 senate seats, and I'll hand it to Tim Ryan myself.

Don't insult me by telling me "these people aren't your friends" You're the idealist, not me.

But I'll bite, since it's time to do something else, what do you propose?

[scoobdog]

19 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Idk I honestly think politicians and the people believed Kavanaugh, Barrett and Gorsuch when they said roe v Wade and Casey was the law of the land and they weren’t going to undo precedent. At least two of those justices were asked directly during hearings and they straight out lied. Why anyone would believe them is beyond me, but our S.C. is a joke now. The pride they used to take in being a non political branch of government is dead. 

The SCOTUS is really kind of at a crossroads.  If any Dem actually believed anything coming out of Beerbong and Sisters' mouths, then they had to be living under a rock, but that's nitpicking at this point because there was nothing any Dem could have done about their elevations regardless.  The liberal justices and Roberts have been eying this slow motion wreck for awhile and you can kind of see it in the unpredictable decisions that opened this session... almost as if there was negotiations with the three younger conservative justices to see who would be most likely to move back toward Roberts in the center.  Clearly it was futile, but the point is that the SCOTUS has been a bit more exposed since the confirmation  of ACB and you can see a little bit more of the ideological wrangling than in previous sessions.

31 minutes ago, ZoomBubba said:

Biden and the Democrats made an unforced error with BBB. They overpromised and underdelivered, acting as though they had a mega-majority instead of the razor-thin one they had. Plus, you can't give people the gist of it on a bumper sticker. 

When it was clear that BBB wasn't going to happen, which was Nov. 2020, Dems should've just looked at the most popular parts and focused on those. Sure, they got the infrastructure bill, which is great, but it's not going to cause people to turn out in November. Plus, Democratic leadership in the House, Senate and Executive don't seem to care much about keeping voters or helping incumbents in swing states that lean moderate-to-center-right that barely went Democratic in 2022.  Schumer has been horrible as majority leader,  Pelosi might be able to wrangle votes but her priorities don't resonate outside Democrat +25 districts and Biden seems unable to give up the dream of being the next FDR ... not a winning combo for the party, which I much prefer over the very dangerous alternative.

They just need to be pragmatic and really examine the spot they're in and that's just not happening.

I think you misrepresent what BBB was.  It was already a watered down collection of liberal priorities with the express purpose of making it palatable of moderates.  Taking anything else out of it was going to doom it.

Something that expansive can't be distilled into a bumper sticker slogan, and it shouldn't be.  The progressives are not given nearly enough credit for negotiating in good faith to get something palatable to table for their base primarily because Manchin and Sinema were dishonest-by-omission about their intentions.  That doesn't change the fact that other priorities could and should have been addressed knowing where the political climate was headed.  It doesn't mean we would have gotten anything more than we got, but it would have certainly kept more voters engaged.  Looking at what Biden has been able to do with Ukraine certainly tells me that his administration knows how to be the canary when it needs to.

38 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

This shit is going to have devastating impacts on the poor and poc regardless of financial means.  

Unfortunately, yes. 

[Ginguy]

This explains everything that is going on regarding politics.

As far as the draft ruling; first, it is a draft, not finalized, second, it doesn't outlaw anything, it simply returns the decision to the State.

 

[Nablonsky]

13 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

This explains everything that is going on regarding politics.

Musky mff

[stilgar]

Lol, jingo honestly thinks the right hasn't gone further and further far right. What a sack of garbage. 

[scoobdog]

8 minutes ago, stilgar said:

Lol, jingo honestly thinks the right hasn't gone further and further far right. What a sack of garbage. 

He couldn't use the horseshoe because then him and Nabs would be close enough to slap fight.

[1pooh4u]

26 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

This explains everything that is going on regarding politics.

As far as the draft ruling; first, it is a draft, not finalized, second, it doesn't outlaw anything, it simply returns the decision to the State.

 

Which would be fine save for the fact that prior Justices have determined that reproductive rights are in the constitution, even if not explicitly stated.  
 don’t get it twisted what the courts did was remove a constitutional right  hopefully one day the court will go left and say the second amendment is trash  

 

[PenguinBoss]

31 minutes ago, stilgar said:

Lol, jingo honestly thinks the right hasn't gone further and further far right. What a sack of garbage. 

Or the picture is in fact correct, and the right has always condoned Neo-Nazi and "Great Replacement" ideas.

He should really think about what he posts instead of whatever his handlers feed him.

[Nablonsky]

Biden ‘not prepared’ to support ending Senate filibuster to pass abortion rights law –

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2022/may/03/roe-v-wade-us-supreme-court-preliminary-vote-overtu

 

 

Of course not, this isn't an important issue for the Democratic party. Otherwise they would Do Something. The people saying that it's impossible for them to do anything or they need 67 senators are lying. 

Edited May 3, 2022 by Nablonsky

[MasqueradeOverture]

Wire coathangers about to come in vogue again.

The Guilded Age. High fashion.

[stilgar]

7 minutes ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Wire coathangers about to come in vogue again.

The Guilded Age. High fashion.

Hahahahahahahahaha. 

 

Women dying from back alley abortions is so funny.

 

Just the funniest thing in all the land. 

[1pooh4u]

I’m seeing a lot about the Met Gala and it’s disgusting me. While mostly grossly rich fucks were playing dress up for the cause of, playing more dress up, our rights were being writing away.  

[Nablonsky]

2 hours ago, Ginguy said:

As far as the draft ruling; first, it is a draft, not finalized, second, it doesn't outlaw anything, it simply returns the decision to the State.

Nobody needs your anti abortion bullshit in this thread you old loser. "It's up to the states" that's the issue, that it's up on the chopping block. As if it hasn't already long been unaccessible to a lot of people in a lot of states bc of weird religious Republican political consultants like you. Clown

[MasqueradeOverture]

1 hour ago, stilgar said:

Hahahahahahahahaha. 

 

Women dying from back alley abortions is so funny.

 

Just the funniest thing in all the land. 

Really a pot shot at the bourgeoisie and their galas but ok bro.

Though really, the human condition and the horrifying terrors therin is hilarious. We're all born to suffer, and more will be forced to be born! LOL

[Vamped]

44 minutes ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Really a pot shot at the bourgeoisie and their galas but ok bro.

Though really, the human condition and the horrifying terrors therin is hilarious. We're all born to suffer, and more will be forced to be born! LOL

Ain't nobody laughing in this thread bro

 

You got several other threads to go not be funny in

 

 

[Seight]

13 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

What happened last night is exactly why those states made such fucked up laws in the first place, to be challenged in the SC to overturn Roe v Wade and Casey v idr

I'm just imagining the states going "yes, repeal Roe V Wade, we can totally be trusted with Women's reproductive health"