Ginguy

What part of "Go away" don't you get?

This might in fact be legendary win, from the raw skill alone.

More like Chinese flu year....

So, when NYC imposed the 10k regulations, did it affect only Uber/Lyft or did it also affect major bases like YellowCab? I agree that a more narrow approach is generally better, but even then it might be that the government is preventing the market from sorting itself out. If major non-internet bases such as Yellowcab are able to offer benefits, it might be easier for them to retain talent, as opposed to Uber/Lyft which are able to offer a cash bonus but not able to sustain that income level. The individual employee is going to have to determine which is better. Adding costs onto the national providers like Uber really isn't going to stop them from putting local smaller companies out of business, as you said it really just ends up reducing employee rates. I'm not sure how to handle the issue, it's complicated. Simply compelling Uber to hire isn't really a solution, Uber would end up pricing itself out of the market they created. On the other hand, a gig payment kind of job isn't really a way to make money long term; it is more of a side hustle.

I think it was Uber that considered simply firing all its drivers and then saying, "you are independent now do whatevs". I kind of doubt they are going to get away with something like that. Companies like Uber and Takl are pretty clearly employers in that you can't even access their provider services without passing employment screenings of some form. They may be lax, but it isn't like Craigslist where there is no screening at all and Rainman is gonna take your kidneys.... It redefines the employer/employee relationship to be sure, but I'm not sure how it makes "unfair" to workers in a gig market. If you are doing gig work you know going in what to expect, it isn't fair to impose employer costs on companies that facilitate like Takl or Uber. Those companies make services available at a lower price to a broader range of people, often the lower quintile. To impose those costs is going to result in them being passed on in either higher rates to the customer or a reduction of fees that go to the actual provider, who is often someone in the lower quintile themselves. These laws undercut the ability of the providers and their customers to access these services in a convenient manner and at a price point they can afford.

The indiscriminate nature of AB5 is the biggest problem; it particularly hits writers/journalists pretty hard. In theory, a neighborhood kid who mows lawns for a couple bucks in the summer is under it, and the people who hire said kid are also under the law. It's silly, and it was never going to do what it was intended to do. I suspect that you will see companies like Uber simply say they are little more than a platform for exchange, they might drop background checks entirely of providers and simply divorce themselves from any involvement beyond providing the app/platform that matches drivers to riders. I'll have to check a bit, I think either Uber or Lyft was moving towards this direction specifically to avoid these kinds of laws. Ultimately, it is the small independent person just trying to earn a living who ends up being hurt by these laws. The companies will simply not do business in States with laws similar to AB5, resulting in layoffs.

Damn. He did a lot for the NBA and then for children after he retired, shame to see this.

Vox writers cheered that as a "progressive victory for workers" then got laid off when it took effect.... 😎 Of course, there is a way around it, you form an LLC. Of course, you probably get taxed twice when you do that, I haven't checked myself....

And so it begins....