Putin: "Stick to the timeline!"

[tsar4]

[tsar4]

Considering how things are going with the Russian military, it's a good thing

isn't Russian.

[tsar4]

Baba Yaga says, "Everything will be Ukraine!"

[tsar4]

"Today is a real opportunity to thank the United States for everything it has done for Ukraine so far. We thank every nation – not all assistance is reported in the media, but I know what every country has done, and we thank every one of them. But no one has done more for Ukraine throughout this time than the United States," the foreign minister stressed.

[naraku360]

On 3/17/2022 at 10:21 AM, Poof said:

I'm sick of it and I don't even care if nobody listens

I listened to you tho 😘

[naraku360]

First they cancel J.K. Rowling over so-called gender freedoms, now they cancel Russia over so-called illegal and unjustified war. What next, cancel nuke over WW3? All I want is hostile takeover. Maybe little bit world domination. Is that so bad?

Curse you, the radical left!

Edited March 27, 2022 by naraku360

[Top Gun]

So much for the tolerant left.

[Jman]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/26/chinese-oil-gas-company-cancels-500m-investment-russia-dodge/

Given China's reliance on soft power (we provide you the materials you need for the products you want) to influence world policy, being isolated like Russia is a bad thing.  So this is actually interesting to see.

[Jman]

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/27/7334895/
 

“Sorry sir, we don’t have the fuel to go into Ukraine.  But have some vodka!”

[tsar4]

Could Putin be trying to fulfill what a propagandist wrote in 1931?

Edited March 28, 2022 by tsar4

[tsar4]

Hey Kids! It's Cartoon Time!

[Top Gun]

13 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

Hey Kids! It's Cartoon Time!

This song is a jam.

[Master-Debater131]

 

[Raptorpat]

A surprise to literally no one:

 

[Sawdamizer]

Relax everyone, Macron is going to meet with Putin later and talk things out in his lair…

[Master-Debater131]

Australian Nazis is a really nice touch to that map.

[Master-Debater131]

 

Ukraine may have just hit a Russian arsenal inside of Russia itself.

That would be one hell of a swing in things if true.

[Seight]

6 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Australian Nazis is a really nice touch to that map.

Don't sleep on "Football Nazis," depending on which country you're in that means two things.

[tsar4]

5 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

 

Ukraine may have just hit a Russian arsenal inside of Russia itself.

That would be one hell of a swing in things if true.

Or Putin giving himself a pretext for again attempting to take the whole of Ukraine.  "Well, I was going to pull back, but..."

[tsar4]

https://www.newsweek.com/ukrainian-solider-who-cursed-russian-warship-returned-home-given-medal-1693070

[Doom Metal Alchemist]

12 hours ago, Seight said:

Don't sleep on "Football Nazis," depending on which country you're in that means two things.

Should've spelled it "Futbol."

[Jman]

My pitch for Yacht Hunter continues to write itself.

[Master-Debater131]

11 hours ago, tsar4 said:

Or Putin giving himself a pretext for again attempting to take the whole of Ukraine.  "Well, I was going to pull back, but..."

I thought that to but it doesnt make sense for a false flag to hit a munitions depot.  Russia already is having huge logistical problems getting weapons and ammo to their troops, taking out a key supply depot doesnt make sense.

 

If it was a false flag I would bet it would hit something like a mall, or an apartment bloc, or some other civilian area.

 

The other option is that it could be pure incompetence. After seeing how the russian army has performed I wouldnt be shocked if the entire depot went up because of someone being a total idiot.

[Raptorpat]

Last night I saw that one Russian outlet was claiming it was an attack and another was claiming it was human error.

[Poof]

On 3/15/2022 at 4:57 PM, Poof said:

It's actually up 42% since March 7th

Before the invasion, it was worth $0.01322

Our sanction announcements took it as low as $0.006605

Now it's almost worth a penny again at $0.009377

Ruble is $0.0118 today

or $1 = 84 rubles

whereas $1 = 151 rubles at its lowest after sanction announcements

[helpme]

5 minutes ago, Poof said:

Ruble is $0.0118 today

or $1 = 84 rubles

whereas $1 = 151 rubles at its lowest after sanction announcements

One of my gaming buddies actually just posted this yesterday on discord

its really sad how the people who don't want to be apart of this is getting screwed 

[Poof]

16 minutes ago, helpme said:

One of my gaming buddies actually just posted this yesterday on discord

its really sad how the people who don't want to be apart of this is getting screwed 

shut up scoob

[Ginguy]

2 hours ago, Poof said:

Ruble is $0.0118 today

or $1 = 84 rubles

whereas $1 = 151 rubles at its lowest after sanction announcements

This is due to a few things; the sanctions not having quite the bite, the continued need for Russian energy, the Ruble being transitioned to a gold standard, a move from the dollar as the global energy reserve currency, and Russia requiring "unfriendly" countries to use the ruble to buy energy.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/ruble-becomes-best-performing-currency-in-march-soars-to-83-to-the-dollar-122032901631_1.html

 

[Poof]

1 hour ago, Ginguy said:

This is due to a few things; the sanctions not having quite the bite, the continued need for Russian energy, the Ruble being transitioned to a gold standard, a move from the dollar as the global energy reserve currency, and Russia requiring "unfriendly" countries to use the ruble to buy energy.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/ruble-becomes-best-performing-currency-in-march-soars-to-83-to-the-dollar-122032901631_1.html

 

and they took their interest rate from 9.5% to 20%

[Jman]

Today’s tactical Russian failure -

 

Digging trenches in irradiated soil is a bad idea.

[naraku360]

2 hours ago, Jman said:

Today’s tactical Russian failure -

 

Digging trenches in irradiated soil is a bad idea.

What they expected:

What they got:

[Ginguy]

21 hours ago, Poof said:

and they took their interest rate from 9.5% to 20%

It's as if Putin has a competent finance minister who is moving to stabilize and improve value of the ruble.

 

[scoobdog]

45 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

It's as if Putin has a competent finance minister who is moving to stabilize and improve value of the ruble.

 

Resorting to tactics like demanding rubles in payments in breach of contracts, freezing foreign assets and doubling interest rates aren't the mark of "competence" as much as the mark of sheer desperation... not that any finance minister would be able to do anything in the face of such severe economic embargoes.

[PhilosipherStoned]

On 3/24/2022 at 5:21 PM, tsar4 said:

"In non-Soviet Ukraine, Russian Helicopter attacks Russian Troops"

(btw- Yakov Smirnoff is Ukrainian-American)

First heard this story on this ex navy seals youtube story channel but it's hilarious. Think it's one from back in the soviet russia days as well. The russian governmet gave this war hero a fullmetal jacket crew of fuck ups, and lousy ships to try to turn the tides of the war. 

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by PhilosipherStoned

[naraku360]

3 hours ago, Ginguy said:

It's as if Putin has a competent finance minister who is moving to stabilize and improve value of the ruble.

 

.....

How...?

[scoobdog]

19 hours ago, naraku360 said:

.....

How...?

Just a thought:

1. Keep ruple right about the same price as a shiny US Penny by beating unpatriotic citizens.

2. Demand all payments in shiny US Pennies and collect trillions of much unloved and unappreciated coins otherwise doomed to being pressed into asphalt by big disgusting dirty US pickup trucks.

3. Smelt all those grateful US Pennies for benfit of Mother Russia!

4.???

5. Show up at the local recycling center, save planet and country, and ..... PROFIT!!!

....

I could be a Russian finance minister.

Edited April 1, 2022 by scoobdog
Lol shiny US pennis.

[Master-Debater131]

Ukraine has now hit a Russian fuel depot, inside of Russia. Apparently they used helicopters and were able to get into Russian air space, attack the depot, and get out.

 

If Ukraine is able to pull attacks like that off they really are in a strong position. I dont think anyone would have predicted this.

[Raptorpat]

Did they confirm? Always the risk of false flag stuff.

[Master-Debater131]

14 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

Did they confirm? Always the risk of false flag stuff.

No one is confirming or denying anything.

 

I will repeat what I said about the armory false flag idea though, it doesnt make sense to take out a key military logistics hub when their logistics are already shit.

 

A fun new theory that popped up was it could have been Russians, not as a false flag but as mutiny trying to stop the war. Absolutely zero reason to believe that is true right now, but man that would be something else.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said:

I will repeat what I said about the armory false flag idea though, it doesnt make sense to take out a key military logistics hub when their logistics are already shit.

It does when your soldiers are clueless conscripts that are worth little more than cannon fodder and you can just use the false flag attack to fire more long range missiles form the safety of your own soil.

[Master-Debater131]

5 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

It does when your soldiers are clueless conscripts that are worth little more than cannon fodder and you can just use the false flag attack to fire more long range missiles form the safety of your own soil.

That doesnt make sense though.  Russia was already firing long range missiles into Ukraine. They didnt need an excuse to continue to do that. If the goal was to increase support for the war or justify even more savage attacks, or even WMDs, then you attack a large civilian area, not a military target. Russia is having a ton of logistics problems as it is, so it really doesnt make sense to take out a fuel depot.

[scoobdog]

1 minute ago, Master-Debater131 said:

That doesnt make sense though.  Russia was already firing long range missiles into Ukraine. They didnt need an excuse to continue to do that. If the goal was to increase support for the war or justify even more savage attacks, or even WMDs, then you attack a large civilian area, not a military target. Russia is having a ton of logistics problems as it is, so it really doesnt make sense to take out a fuel depot.

They needed additional leverage in their negotiations.  A false flag on a civilian target presents far more risk than it offers reward.  At best, a helicopter attack on a military supply chain target that most likely didn't even affect operations is enough to justify assessments of any threat the Ukrainian military presents to the Russia itself.

[tsar4]

words fail me

[Master-Debater131]

Im not going to link to the articles or pictures, but there are clear examples of war crimes happening anywhere that Ukraine liberates.

 

Civilians are being tied up and executed. Some are having swastikas carved into them. And as tsar pointed out, there is a lot of rape happening.

 

The world really needs to isolate Russia even further. Its time to cut off their oil from the world.  Really crush them.

[Ginguy]

I've seen those reports and images. They are appalling.

Sadly, the world will not isolate Russia. Russia, if anything, is not really being hurt at all at this point. The Ruble has recovered and will likely continue to strengthen. Africa, South America, Central America and much of Asia have not honored the sanctions imposed. India is staying neutral and continuing to buy energy from Russia. China is actively helping Russia evade sanctions with impunity while questioning the "illegal sanctions". Strategically, Russia has largely secured the desired land bridge to Crimea, and most of the more experienced and elite Ukrainian forces have been rendered combat ineffective in the process. Yes, they got pushed back from Kyiv, and that is good, but everywhere else Russia pretty well won what they set out to win. In addition, the sanctions have only improved Putin's approval rating.

 

 

[scoobdog]

2 hours ago, Ginguy said:

I've seen those reports and images. They are appalling.

Sadly, the world will not isolate Russia. Russia, if anything, is not really being hurt at all at this point. The Ruble has recovered and will likely continue to strengthen. Africa, South America, Central America and much of Asia have not honored the sanctions imposed. India is staying neutral and continuing to buy energy from Russia. China is actively helping Russia evade sanctions with impunity while questioning the "illegal sanctions". Strategically, Russia has largely secured the desired land bridge to Crimea, and most of the more experienced and elite Ukrainian forces have been rendered combat ineffective in the process. Yes, they got pushed back from Kyiv, and that is good, but everywhere else Russia pretty well won what they set out to win. In addition, the sanctions have only improved Putin's approval rating.

 

 

*reads Ginguy’s post*
…

So the sanctions must be working for Ginguy to word vomit all over himself about how the ruble is going to be stronger than ever.

[Master-Debater131]

I don't even know where to begin.

Lets start with NATO.

One of Putin's clearest goals over the past 20 years has been to divide NATO and prevent its expansion. Both of these now appear to be a total failure. NATO is more united now than it has been since the end of the Cold War. Nations that had previously not been spending on their military are pumping billions into their military. Germany freaking woke up. Nice job Putin! And for expansion? Yea, that's absolutely happening. Finland and Sweden are both looking very likely to join NATO sooner than later. And there are other nations looking to speed-run a NATO membership thanks to this war. NATO is at its strongest position ever, and is only going to get stronger in the coming years and decades.

 

The Russian Economy.

Its done. Absolutely done. No Western company is going back to Russia anytime soon. European nations are working to cut off their energy supply from Russia as fast as possible. Thats the single biggest chunk of the Russian economy and the only thing that kept them afloat all these years. You take that away and they are screwed. China and India are going to buy, but its going to take years to build the infrastructure needed to deliver that energy to those nations. The sanctions are absolutely working as well. Russia is close to a default on its debt, and when that happens its going to be a generation before their economy recovers. The only reason the Ruble and their stock market havent failed is because of manipulation that they are doing. That manipulation wont last forever thanks to the sanctions. We dropped the equivilant of multiple nuclear bombs on the Russian economy, we are just waiting for the fallout to fully destroy it.

 

Putins Popularity

Yea, trust the polls from a dictatorship. I'm sure they are true.

 

Now for the big one, Ukraine itself.

No, Russia has not achieved its goals. Not even close. From the start their stated goal was to completely take over Ukraine and either absorb it back into Russia or set up a puppet government. Neither of those are going to happen anytime soon. Russia tried for a full blown takeover and failed. Their military has been exposed as a complete joke and its painfully clear that if Russia tried to fight any organized and modern military they would be routed. The few places where Russia had gained control they have lost it. Outside of the Donbas the Russians are being pushed back on all fronts. As for control of the Donbas, good luck with that. There is going to be a generation long insurgency in that are that is going to drain Russia of resources that it doesnt have. And thats assuming that Ukraine doesnt start to push Russia back there as well. We are arming Ukraine with some high-tech and high-power weaponry and its shredding the Russian military to pieces. The Ukrainians are far from being rendered combat ineffective. If anything they have gained strength thanks to NATO weaponry and the massive inflow of Western fighters who are joining their foreign legion. Thousands of well trained, well armed, and highly experienced fighters are joining the Ukrainians and are tearing Russia apart. The whole idea that Russia is achieving their goals is nothing more than some of the most epic goal-post shifting you will ever see. They've shifted from a stated goal of total control of Ukraine to "well, maybe just this little part here".

 

The only ones who think that Russia is actually achieving anything here are the Russian Propagandists and Tucker Carlson, but I repeat myself. Russia has failed, and the fallout from this war is going to cause Russia to suffer for decades to come. Ukraine is going to rebuild with billions of dollars from the Western world. It will likely end up in a stronger position in 10 years than they were before the war started. Russia will have nothing but the smoking ruble of its economy and an insurgency to deal with for decades.

[Master-Debater131]

Update: Guess theres an issue with translation.  Its unclear if Russia is going to hand Kherson over or if the Ukrainians are about to push the Russians out. Sounds like Russia currently controls the city, but doesnt expect to hold it for much longer.

 

Edited April 5, 2022 by Master-Debater131

[Master-Debater131]

 

[Raptorpat]

lol