scoobdog Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, matrixman124 said: Fox News is firmly sided with the MAGA crowd. There's a reason all the neocon incumbents are getting voted out. That so? https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748 There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that Fox News is less interested in sucking up MAGA and more interested in playing off it to maintain its place at the top of the conservative news world. Someone like Cheney fits perfectly into it because she can be held up as an example of the "virtuous" conservative all while adhering to the fundamentals of the conservative platform. Yes, populism certainly translates to wins for primaries; it also has translated into a historic slate of bad candidates. That should be fair indication that MAGA isn't the dominant voice of the GOP, just as it isn't an analog for the conservative platform, which hasn't actually changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, scoobdog said: That so? https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/25/rupert-murdoch-donald-trump-splitsville-00047748 There is plenty of anecdotal evidence that Fox News is less interested in sucking up MAGA and more interested in playing off it to maintain its place at the top of the conservative news world. Someone like Cheney fits perfectly into it because she can be held up as an example of the "virtuous" conservative all while adhering to the fundamentals of the conservative platform. Yes, populism certainly translates to wins for primaries; it also has translated into a historic slate of bad candidates. That should be fair indication that MAGA isn't the dominant voice of the GOP, just as it isn't an analog for the conservative platform, which hasn't actually changed. If they do well in the primaries, which they very well could, it could upset the whole balance between neocons and MAGA candidates. Logically, the MAGA folks could very well be soundly defeated but then again we said that about Trump. Liz Cheney does not have the backing of the GOP leadership anymore. They won't say it out loud but they did not support her against her challenger. Fox News is catering to all gamuts of GOP voters and it's safer to just ostracize and ignore Cheney rather than put her on and risk pissing off the MAGA voters. Tucker Carlson is actively spouting MAGA nonsense and Fox ain't going to take him off the air. Murdoch is in the same dilemma as the GOP leadership. They want to keep the traditional neocon base and the crazies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Isn’t this relevant to that dilemma. It’s clear the establishment GOP likes the more subtle control over businesses and the like and to be forced out by crazies is not to their benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 2 hours ago, matrixman124 said: If they do well in the primaries, which they very well could, it could upset the whole balance between neocons and MAGA candidates. Logically, the MAGA folks could very well be soundly defeated but then again we said that about Trump. Liz Cheney does not have the backing of the GOP leadership anymore. They won't say it out loud but they did not support her against her challenger. Fox News is catering to all gamuts of GOP voters and it's safer to just ostracize and ignore Cheney rather than put her on and risk pissing off the MAGA voters. Tucker Carlson is actively spouting MAGA nonsense and Fox ain't going to take him off the air. Murdoch is in the same dilemma as the GOP leadership. They want to keep the traditional neocon base and the crazies. Murdoch doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. The point is that he knows that the MAGA movement is a dead end: as soon as Trump is in jail or mysteriously floating face down in the Mar-A-Lago pool, the movement is done. Until then, his instincts tell him to hedge his bets, both by keeping the MAGAtards happy with Scumbag Carlson and playing up to the rest of the closet conservatives with "moderate" voices. You can't act like MAGA is an perpetual movement - it has no substance of its own outside of the Trump Cult of Personality. He's the only one that can hold together an assortment of white nationalists, evangelicals, conspiracy theorists, etc. DeSantis, inept buffoon that he is, doesn't have the same charisma that makes Trump so unifying and dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Murdoch doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. The point is that he knows that the MAGA movement is a dead end: as soon as Trump is in jail or mysteriously floating face down in the Mar-A-Lago pool, the movement is done. Until then, his instincts tell him to hedge his bets, both by keeping the MAGAtards happy with Scumbag Carlson and playing up to the rest of the closet conservatives with "moderate" voices. You can't act like MAGA is an perpetual movement - it has no substance of its own outside of the Trump Cult of Personality. He's the only one that can hold together an assortment of white nationalists, evangelicals, conspiracy theorists, etc. DeSantis, inept buffoon that he is, doesn't have the same charisma that makes Trump so unifying and dangerous. I hope so. I don't think MAGA is going away anytime soon at least while Trump is alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: I hope so. I don't think MAGA is going away anytime soon at least while Trump is alive. Fortunately for us, Trump is a generational talent in all the worst arts. Unfortunately for us, ridding ourselves of Trump and MAGA merely assuages the very worst tendencies of our base nature. It does nothing to deal with the real problem of conservatism: too many people still buy into the concept of Randian Objectivism, and all of the horror that entails when mixed with closet greed and intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemming Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 minute ago, scoobdog said: Fortunately for us, Trump is a generational talent in all the worst arts. Unfortunately for us, ridding ourselves of Trump and MAGA merely assuages the very worst tendencies of our base nature. It does nothing to deal with the real problem of conservatism: too many people still buy into the concept of Randian Objectivism, and all of the horror that entails when mixed with closet greed and intolerance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewBluntsworth Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: "Mr. O'Rourke, do you support efforts to defund the police?" "Of course I don't, and no one does." The Democratic party is such a right wing 🤡 show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 "I was going to answer the question I thought you were going to ask me!" Nice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) Well Trump is making death threats against MCConnell. https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-mitch-mcconnell-elaine-chao-death-wish-threat-us-politics-news/e30bb1f1-a79e-428f-becb-c8432d6b1da5 Edited October 1, 2022 by SwimModSponges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Well Trump is making death threats against MCConnell. https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-mitch-mcconnell-elaine-chao-death-wish-threat-us-politics-news/e30bb1f1-a79e-428f-becb-c8432d6b1da5 Being racist against his wife out of left field. Classic Trump. It's like he never left the White House. 🥲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 "Coco Chow?" I don't even get what he's going for there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Coco Chanel. Her name is Elaine Chao. It's really dumb and also unnecessarily racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Coco Chanel I'm not doubting this interpretation but I still don't get it. What does Elaine Chao have to do with Coco Chanel? Is it like a way of calling her rich...? Edited October 1, 2022 by NewBluntsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewBluntsworth Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 (edited) Beto has zero chance, may as well go ahead and chalk up yet another L for him right now. At least he'll be freed up to focus on running another failed Presidential campaign. Edited October 1, 2022 by NewBluntsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Don't mind me, just setting up for the next political mass shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 https://kesq.com/news/ap-national-news/2022/09/30/new-murder-charge-for-north-dakota-man-who-ran-over-teen/ "Democrats want Republicans dead and they have already started the killings" - MTG 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just now, Ginguy said: https://kesq.com/news/ap-national-news/2022/09/30/new-murder-charge-for-north-dakota-man-who-ran-over-teen/ "Democrats want Republicans dead and they have already started the killings" - MTG No information has been discovered that proves there was any sort of political discussion between the two at this time. Honestly, the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if the dude charged with murder [ for doing something your side has openly advocated -and- practiced ] is republican leaning who killed someone with his car and then decided to make it a weird political thing just to rile up the same people who are normally fine with such behaviors as long as they are the ones choosing the targets. Murder a Gay? Woman? Person of Any Color Not White? GOP is A-Okay with all that. Murder a 'Conservative' ? Worst thing in the world! This is all the fault of the current President and something should be done about him [ while completely forgetting about all the incendiary shit spouted by the previous administration ] ! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 9 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: Well Trump is making death threats against MCConnell. https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-mitch-mcconnell-elaine-chao-death-wish-threat-us-politics-news/e30bb1f1-a79e-428f-becb-c8432d6b1da5 This wanna-twitter smells weird. The idiot cadence is off, I don't know quite how, but I don't think he was the one to actually thumb-twiddle this. He might have been screaming about it in the background but it's off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 9 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: Well Trump is making death threats against MCConnell. https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump-mitch-mcconnell-elaine-chao-death-wish-threat-us-politics-news/e30bb1f1-a79e-428f-becb-c8432d6b1da5 This feels like its becoming my version of "Say the line, Bart!' but in my defense it does keep happening: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ginguy said: https://kesq.com/news/ap-national-news/2022/09/30/new-murder-charge-for-north-dakota-man-who-ran-over-teen/ "Democrats want Republicans dead and they have already started the killings" - MTG Go fuck yourself jingo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 You're free to start "protecting yourself" any time you want, option D. But then, you're just option D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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matrixman124 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Well this is a fucking bombshell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The fuck is “Coco Chow”? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 hours ago, matrixman124 said: Well this is a fucking bombshell. NOTE: If you want to go to Wikipedia to check what Herschel's son is referring to, be prepared to say "Jesus CHRIST" while you're reading the Personal Life section. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 With this added on top of it: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Self-aware people are the best. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SwimModSponges Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Hot take- this wins him some votes from racist conservatives by "living down to their expectations." It doesn't matter that he "did a bad thing" because in their minds its inherent that black people "do the bad thing." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) https://www.lex18.com/news/decison-2022/sen-rand-paul-declines-to-debate-charles-booker-in-u-s-senate-race Rand Paul ghosted on a debate he was supposed to attend. When questioned he said he was afraid of political violence occurring. Quote "I think that debates should involve civility and should involve parties that are actually willing to address questions," said Paul. "And I think that there's been a certain tenor, so far, that really involves more accepting of political violence - that I think worries me and makes me concerned." I've heard it referred to as "the angry black man" excuse. Edited October 4, 2022 by SwimModSponges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seight Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Raptorpat said: I shouldn't have laughed and yet did. Duality of Man and radda radda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 15 hours ago, Raptorpat said: He is such a horrible candidate its amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 43 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: He is such a horrible candidate its amazing. his "October surprise" is literally "he kills puppies" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: his "October surprise" is literally "he kills puppies" Yeah oof https://people.com/politics/fact-check-dr-oz-role-columbia-university-dog-experiments/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I had to look it up cuz I was like c’mon, for real? How bad could a candidate possibly be. Turns out Dr Oz is not unlike Cruella D’evil 😬 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 The midterms are becoming a display of "how much shit are GOP voters willing to swallow to retake Congress" "Abbot made abortion illegal in Texas? I mean it's a small sacrifice for state rights???" "Herschel Walker paid for abortions and abandoned his family? Uh he won a Heisman Award so" "Dr. Oz experimented on puppies? I mean we really need to protect the children so...." 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 https://www.newsweek.com/republican-chairman-under-fire-fake-homemade-id-vote-alabama-1748863 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: Yeah oof https://people.com/politics/fact-check-dr-oz-role-columbia-university-dog-experiments/ I thought it was just a dad pun, not a horrible example of abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, scoobdog said: I thought it was just a dad pun, not a horrible example of abuse. He enjoyed hurting those dogs pos he is but it might not matter Republicans don’t gaf what their possible representatives do. Christian Walker (a fuckin asshole conservative himself) is getting dragged for blown his dad up. They don’t gaf which sewer these politicians crawl out of i suppose there’s some hope on PA as Oz was pretty much always trailing in the polls unlike Walker and the other lunatics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said: He enjoyed hurting those dogs pos he is but it might not matter Republicans don’t gaf what their possible representatives do. Christian Walker (a fuckin asshole conservative himself) is getting dragged for blown his dad up. They don’t gaf which sewer these politicians crawl out of i suppose there’s some hope on PA as Oz was pretty much always trailing in the polls unlike Walker and the other lunatics Walker is a lot more digestible because Georgia is a solid swing that could go to either candidate just based on traditional party loyalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: i suppose there’s some hope on PA as Oz was pretty much always trailing in the polls unlike Walker and the other lunatics The polls have tightened recently, and Oz and his PACs are running a metric fuckton of attack ads on Fetterman at the moment. Unfortunately he's not going anywhere just yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Walker is a lot more digestible because Georgia is a solid swing that could go to either candidate just based on traditional party loyalties. I think both are dangerous for different reasons but Walker imo is a ticking CTE time bomb and he’s consistently leading against Warnock. Idt Oz is gonna win but unless people wtf up Walker will win and just do whatever he’s told to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Top Gun said: The polls have tightened recently, and Oz and his PACs are running a metric fuckton of attack ads on Fetterman at the moment. Unfortunately he's not going anywhere just yet. He’s going to lose and scream election thievery 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Walker is a lot more digestible because Georgia is a solid swing that could go to either candidate just based on traditional party loyalties. Why? Because he hasn't gone full OJ Simpson yet? Like it or not, that's the direction he's headed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Why? Because he hasn't gone full OJ Simpson yet? Like it or not, that's the direction he's headed. Dr. Oz does strike me as the type to write a memoir about how he would've done it if he really abused the dogs to prove his innocence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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