Master-Debater131 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Yes, again! We are not that far away from the start of the 2022 campaign season, and we are only a couple weeks away from off-year elections in states like Virginia and New Jersey. Going into next year the Democrats control the House and Senate by 8 seats and the VP respectively. All House seats are up for election next year and in the Senate there are 34 seats up, 20 of them currently held by the GOP. https://www.270towin.com/current-us-house-map/ In 2022, a GOP net gain of 9 seats would give them control of the House, and a net gain of 1 seat by either party in the Senate would give them control. This will be the first election since the 2020 Census produced a new electoral map. Historically the party that controls the White House loses seats in the Midterms, and a key indicator of just how many is Presidential Job Approval. Both Obama and Trump saw their approval drop before the election, and then watched as their party was wiped out in the midterms. Currently, the RCP average for Presidential Job Approval stands at a -6.6 approval. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/biden_favorableunfavorable-6677.html RCP is a good resource for anyone looking for political information and news articles. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/2022/ Prior to the 2022 elections though there is the Virginia off-year governors election. This has historically been a bit of a bellwether election in that it helps predict how the 2022 elections are going to go. We are only a few weeks away from this election and McAuliffe currently has a 1.8 point lead in the RCP average. This race has tightened up considerably in the past couple of weeks. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2021/governor/va/virginia_governor_youngkin_vs_mcauliffe-7373.html There are also many local off-year elections where you can decide on issues that will directly impact you and the place you live. A bigger one out here is a proposed increase on Marijuana Taxes to fund schools. Check your local Secretary of State to learn more about your local elections. We're a bit of a ways out still from the election, but rather than posting new threads all the time new polls came out I'm making this one so I can keep them all here. Im also going to use this thread for following the Virginia election. And now, let the toxicity political juices flow. (but please don't be a dick about it, I'd like to actually try and keep it civil) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 New York has local elections and five statewide constitutional amendments, available here. Three of which are elections reforms. One eliminates the ten-day voter registration requirement, and the other authorizes permanent no-excuse absentee voting. The final one (well really proposal #1, the others are #3 and #4) does a wholesale cleanup of various elections stuff in the constitution but also tinkers with the redistricting commission originating in a 2014 amendment. Mixed bag on that one, depending on your perspective, but also very in-the-weeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 My money is on a small amount of political violence followed by claims of voter fraud and refusals to concede across the nation with lengthy legal battles ensuing in most states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Republicans win, Congress is stuck in gridlock, another imminent shutdown happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabreezy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Dems are going to get wasted. Sucks to suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 We're all gonna die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabreezy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, naraku360 said: We're all gonna die. "Don't get mad, vote!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 My vote goes to the politician that can explain to me, IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE, why I gotta pay taxes on internet purchases where I’m only receiving something digitally and not actually? Or tangibly? Idk what word I’m looking for but not a fucking train plane road or automobile or boat is used for half the shit I’m taxed on. explain that you got my vote. Promise to cut that shit out, and I believe them, they got my vote two times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Nabreezy said: "Don't get mad, vote!" Wut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/22/2021 at 11:27 PM, Nabreezy said: Dems are going to get wasted. Sucks to suck. Good is dumb. It doesn’t help that the Senate sabotages the agenda every chance it gets (Manchin might as well have an R on his lapel) but they’re tone deaf. Meanwhile the GOP is pure scum and doesn’t give a shit about how many people suffer or die, but they’re way more effective at the blame game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) Manchin needs to be launched into the fucking sun. What an irredeemable sack of shit. Edited October 24, 2021 by Top Gun 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 9:51 AM, 1pooh4u said: My vote goes to the politician that can explain to me, IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE, why I gotta pay taxes on internet purchases where I’m only receiving something digitally and not actually? Or tangibly? Idk what word I’m looking for but not a fucking train plane road or automobile or boat is used for half the shit I’m taxed on. explain that you got my vote. Promise to cut that shit out, and I believe them, they got my vote two times. Sales tax doesn't give a fuck what you're buying. you gotta appease the gov't gods anytime you exchange someone else's goods for your currency...even if someone else's goods only exist as code. NFT has entered the chat. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, wacky1980 said: Sales tax doesn't give a fuck what you're buying. you gotta appease the gov't gods anytime you exchange someone else's goods for your currency...even if someone else's goods only exist as code. NFT has entered the chat. I hate it that’s bullshit and it wasn’t always like that. It’s been a long time like this but it really really makes me mad. There’s no reason for it. I already pay taxes to be allowed to connect in the first place…ugh nvm I just hate it. Pooh smash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, wacky1980 said: Sales tax doesn't give a fuck what you're buying. you gotta appease the gov't gods anytime you exchange someone else's goods for your currency...even if someone else's goods only exist as code. NFT has entered the chat. Btw no vote for you. No sense is made 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: Btw no vote for you. No sense is made 😆 His platform is a hooker in all our beds… he has my vote 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said: His platform is a hooker in all our beds… he has my vote Anyone willing to accept a government issued hooker into their bed is definitely gonna deserve whatever they get. Government issued hooker: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, 1pooh4u said: Anyone willing to accept a government issued hooker into their bed is definitely gonna deserve whatever they get. Government issued hooker: Moister than a oyster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Sawdamizer said: Moister than a oyster I had a feeling her being so bendy was gonna be your downfall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, 1pooh4u said: I had a feeling her being so bendy was gonna be your downfall I can smell that “New Deal” era creeping out her gash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: Anyone willing to accept a government issued hooker into their bed is definitely gonna deserve whatever they get. Government issued hooker: Well at least I don't have to worry about getting her pregnant. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: Well at least I don't have to worry about getting her pregnant. Nah you only gotta worry about starting a fire cuz her hoochie coochie is as dry as a Southern Californian forest in August 😬💩 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Not enough KY on the planet. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Sawdamizer said: His platform is a hooker in all our beds… he has my vote I would run this district so hard. So fucking hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 10:51 AM, 1pooh4u said: My vote goes to the politician that can explain to me, IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE, why I gotta pay taxes on internet purchases where I’m only receiving something digitally and not actually? Or tangibly? Idk what word I’m looking for but not a fucking train plane road or automobile or boat is used for half the shit I’m taxed on. 21 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: I hate it that’s bullshit and it wasn’t always like that. It’s been a long time like this but it really really makes me mad. There’s no reason for it. I already pay taxes to be allowed to connect in the first place…ugh nvm I just hate it. Pooh smash Much of the tax system is built around the concept of taxing transactions, because the constitution says there can be no "direct tax" - hence things like the income tax or the local sales tax where the government takes its cut in the transaction. For a while there was a real disparity between in-person and online sales, no one knew who had jurisdiction over the internet so it wasn't sales taxed. Great for online shoppers, but it undercut physical retailers (on top of the added comparative costs of physical retail sites etc.) and it siphoned away tax revenues for localities that generally don't really have many other means of generating revenue. So to balance the scales for physical retailers and to make localities whole, NY law for example treats all online sales as occurring in the location of the consumer, so that's why you have to pay your local sales tax regardless of wherever you buy something online. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: Much of the tax system is built around the concept of taxing transactions, because the constitution says there can be no "direct tax" - hence things like the income tax or the local sales tax where the government takes its cut in the transaction. For a while there was a real disparity between in-person and online sales, no one knew who had jurisdiction over the internet so it wasn't sales taxed. Great for online shoppers, but it undercut physical retailers (on top of the added comparative costs of physical retail sites etc.) and it siphoned away tax revenues for localities that generally don't really have many other means of generating revenue. So to balance the scales for physical retailers and to make localities whole, NY law for example treats all online sales as occurring in the location of the consumer, so that's why you have to pay your local sales tax regardless of wherever you buy something online. Idc about being taxed if I purchase something that’s sent to me. What I think is bullshit nonsense is when I purchase digital items that don’t undercut anything because there was never a brick and mortar place for a lot of the purchases I make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I don't know enough to speak to that, other than like a digital purchase of a game/movie means you're not buying a physical copy of that game/movie. But my guess is they just wanted a blanket rule that maximizes revenue with the least ambiguity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Raptorpat said: I don't know enough to speak to that, other than like a digital purchase of a game/movie means you're not buying a physical copy of that game/movie. But my guess is they just wanted a blanket rule that maximizes revenue with the least ambiguity. I mean an in app purchase but yeah games too. When I buy a digital copy of a game or music everyone gets paid except some hypothetical business owner, and the state of NY prior to the tax change That’s not fair to the consumer at all. People purchasing things digitally are being less wasteful and thereby helping the environment but we’re taxed because they don’t get the tax from had I purchased it in a store. I’m being taxed for not using something. That’s bullshit nonsense kakapeepeepoopooshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Virginia is getting awfully close. McAuliffe has a 0.8% lead in the RCP average. Of the last 5 polls, only 1 has a lead of more than 1 point for him. The others are all either tied or McAuliffe by 1. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2021/governor/va/virginia_governor_youngkin_vs_mcauliffe-7373.html This is starting to shape up to have all the markings of a major upset. McAuliffe was supposed to walk away with this one in a state that Biden won by 10 just a few months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Pooh: States and localities can't print money the way the Feds can and are no better at balancing budgets. Thus, you pay taxes. MD : I suspect about 6000 - 8,500 ballots worth of fortification in the Virginia race. McAuliffe should have been toast with his "parents shouldn't be involved in their children's education" bit. What is worth watching, in my view, is how effective the approach Youngkin has taken is. Will traditional grassroots campaigning actually flip a race against money and surrogates with national recognition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Well, I’m not paying taxes anymore I’m going back to piracy until they get their shit together. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Well, I’m not paying taxes anymore I’m going back to piracy until they get their shit together. As someone who has a general anti-tax stance, I approve of this message 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabreezy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Ginguy said: MD : I suspect about 6000 - 8,500 ballots worth of fortification in the Virginia race. Haha, can you please explain what you mean by this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 (edited) The RCP Average for Virginia has had a huge change today. Youngkin is up 1.2 in the latest average. This is mainly because of a Fox poll showing him with an 8 point lead. That poll looks mighty outlierish to me. No other poll has shown Youngkin with a lead, let alone one outside the MoE. Youngkin clearly has the momentum, but I really doubt hes up 8 right now. Edited October 29, 2021 by Master-Debater131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 29, 2021 Author Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: The RCP Average for Virginia has had a huge change today. Youngkin is up 1.2 in the latest average. This is mainly because of a Fox poll showing him with an 8 point lead. That poll looks mighty outlierish to me. No other poll has shown Youngkin with a lead, let alone one outside the MoE. Youngkin clearly has the momentum, but I really doubt hes up 8 right now. And just like that WaPo is out with a poll showing McAuliffe with a 1 point lead. The difference between the two is Fox polled Likely Voters and WaPo polled Registered Voters. Either way, its pretty clear that Tuesday should be a very tight race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 Also keep in mind the VA state House is all up for re-election too (but not the state Senate). Question is, is Virgina a blue state or a blue-leaning swing state? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 In other news, NY AG Letitia James just formally announced she is running for Governor. The announcement video is a general combination of her bio and recent accomplishments, but it will be interesting to see what her real messaging will be given she is primarying an incumbent who is going out of her own way to check off all the right boxes to be reelected in her own right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Raptorpat said: it will be interesting to see what her real messaging will be An indictment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 29, 2021 Share Posted October 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: The RCP Average for Virginia has had a huge change today. Youngkin is up 1.2 in the latest average. This is mainly because of a Fox poll showing him with an 8 point lead. That poll looks mighty outlierish to me. No other poll has shown Youngkin with a lead, let alone one outside the MoE. Youngkin clearly has the momentum, but I really doubt hes up 8 right now. So, Va race. Three scenarios are possible: A. McAuliffe wins outright on election night. B. Youngkin wins outright on election night. C. Youngkin has more votes on election night but ultimately loses. Of the three, I'd suspect C at this point. It will probably play out as follows; Youngkin and the GOP win on election night. The State House goes GOP by a slim margin, 3-5 seats, and Youngkin is the apparent winner by election night vote totals. The media will not call the race, instead pointing out that there are still five (I believe) business days for ballots postmarked by election day to arrive and be counted. Loudoun County, Fairfax County, Arlington County and Richmond Co. will all report preliminary results, and then the number of ballots needed for McAuliffe to eek out a bare victory will slowly trickle in to those counties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) So on the VA race... Edited October 30, 2021 by wacky1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabreezy Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Just now, wacky1980 said: So on the VA race... twitter.com/holmes_reports/status/1454094826824212485 twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1454148274319933448 twitter.com/McCormackJohn/status/1454196150177783811 Lincoln Project lol. God, the Dems suck so much shit it's honestly incredible. Just constantly putting on one master class after another in losing, even when they "win" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I don't even think I believe LP on this one. They're caping pretty hard for McAuliffe in this race, but I fail to see how anyone would think this was a good idea. Internet sleuths have supposedly ID'd most of these actors as VA Dem party staffers, which gives it a heavy false-flag vibe. However, LP claims it was a demonstration. Maybe they're trying to take some heat off McAuliffe and his slipping finish? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabreezy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/23/2021 at 3:50 PM, naraku360 said: Wut It was lame duck-era Obama's (ie his entire last year in office when he couldn't even get his Supreme Court nominee seated) catchphrase for a little bit. Don't get angry about politics, don't be mad about how the world just keeps getting shittier and no one with any power is doing anything to improve it, just funnel alllllll that anger and frustration and energy into continuously voting for the Democrats year after year after year, because what other choice do we the powerless peons have? Don't get mad, just go vote and feel that catharsis when team blue occasionally "wins" on paper, regardless of what those "wins" actually result in for anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nabreezy said: It was lame duck-era Obama's (ie his entire last year in office when he couldn't even get his Supreme Court nominee seated) catchphrase for a little bit. Don't get angry about politics, don't be mad about how the world just keeps getting shittier and no one with any power is doing anything to improve it, just funnel alllllll that anger and frustration and energy into continuously voting for the Democrats year after year after year, because what other choice do we the powerless peons have? Don't get mad, just go vote and feel that catharsis when team blue occasionally "wins" on paper, regardless of what those "wins" actually result in for anyone. What's your problem, dude? You think me not getting mad means I don't care? I'm unreasonable when I'm mad, and it's just miserable and exhausting and pointless to rampage impotently. So I'm sorry if my lack of temper tantrums is hurting your feelings. This isn't an ode to the holy Biden administration. If Trump had won, I'd striving for the same. Biden winning is irrelevant beyond people being less unbearably obnoxious with a constant flood of dumb culture war bullshit overshadowing the serious stuff. I just grew up. Edited October 31, 2021 by naraku360 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabreezy Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, naraku360 said: What's your problem, dude? You think me not getting mad means I don't care? No I was just quoting Obama to mock him/the sentiment behind that sound bite, chill out. Edited October 31, 2021 by Nabreezy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Nabreezy said: No I was just quoting Obama to mock him/the sentiment behind that sound bite, chill out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacky1980 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Getting ready for the VA results to start rolling in. Anyone want some action on the over/under for McAuliffe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 43 minutes ago, wacky1980 said: Getting ready for the VA results to start rolling in. Anyone want some action on the over/under for McAuliffe? 60-40 he wins. Only reason I dont say its a true coin flip is because Virginia is a Blue state. Polls or not, its pretty reliably Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 THE NEEDLE HAS SPOKENNNNNNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 I wont believe it until its called, but its starting to look like there has been a major upset in Virginia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 Wow. Youngkin pulled this off. Oh man are the Hot Takes going to be absolutely scorching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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