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17 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

but now this article surfaces where he, correctly, says that Palestinians are too battle minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.

you have yet to answer or engage with me, like ever. is it the color of my font?

granted, most of this exchange has been me calling you a fucktard. i won't apologize. 

what i want is an actual answer, i think it's warranted at this point. why are you acting like this? why are you coming to a message board, that is CLEARLY not siding with this rhetoric. or the trump thread. or any thread, you continously play the opposite side, only to the demise of any argument, thought, or opinion you have on any topic. 

most places ban people that continously cause this amount of chaos and vile discussion (obviously i'm completely guilty of using vile words and calling you a fucktard). but not right now, right here: WHY? are you being like this. you can't possibly believe this bigoted and prejudiced way?   to be as nasty, vile, and disgusting with your opinions that have absolutely fucking nothing to do with you [ k. harris race and how you think she should stay indian,  the olympic opening ceremony ~ your opinion is of no concern. you are in the U.S. , and when the we host the games, we do the ceremony our way.  do you have children? how many times have your children been near an X rated drag show? never?  this shit right here ]

i'm not saying ban you, becuase you are low lying fruit, and everyone needs a punching bag.  but for lilith's sake, stop being human garbage. the world doesn't need anymore of that. it needs help, understanding, and solutions. not, whatever it is you're doing. 

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38 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

Looks like the trans boxer rumors came from Russia. The group that made the accusations are Russian and are very invested in taking down the Olympic committee because of Russia's exclusion from the games and France's support of Ukraine

I shouldn't be surprised.  I actually had to clear it up with some friends yesterday.  "No, she wasn't a man, ever."

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14 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Harris is apparently refusing to debate Trump now. She said she would show up for a debate so he could say what he had to say to her face, now she is changing her mind.

Shes too chicken to show up and debate Trump.

nope. that's not it, racist. 

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1 hour ago, discolé monade said:

you have yet to answer or engage with me, like ever. is it the color of my font?

 

I must say that I find it extremely rich that the person who started their own Israel thread because they coluldnt handle pro-Israel news a commentary is complaining about not getting any attention.

Have a wonderful weekend.

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Just now, Master-Debater131 said:

I must say that I find it extremely rich that the person who started their own Israel thread because they coluldnt handle pro-Israel news a commentary is complaining about not getting any attention.

Have a wonderful weekend.

i started THAT thread, so people could catch up on what is actually happening, and not have to read your racist opinions. 

nice deflect. trump is teaching more and more each day: how to be racist and not care, how to not answer a question. why use intelligence, when you can just regurgitate 'truth social', and the heritage foundation talking points, racist and a liar. 

btw, trump is backing out, try reading something of quality.

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1 hour ago, matrixman124 said:

Looks like the trans boxer rumors came from Russia. The group that made the accusations are Russian and are very invested in taking down the Olympic committee because of Russia's exclusion from the games and France's support of Ukraine

 

Plus, it's so patently stupid. The end of it was:

"Do you identify as a woman?"

"Yes."

"Were you born female?"

"Yes."

 

It took five minutes to get to the truth of it.

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33 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Harris is apparently refusing to debate Trump now. She said she would show up for a debate so he could say what he had to say to her face, now she is changing her mind.

Shes too chicken to show up and debate Trump.

he unilaterally made up a debate/host when there was already one scheduled with a different host that he was walking away from

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3 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

he unilaterally made up a debate/host when there was already one scheduled with a different host that he was walking away from

He did one of his late-night tirades, and demanded it be on Fox with no fact checking.  Which is telling.

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18 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

he unilaterally made up a debate/host when there was already one scheduled with a different host that he was walking away from

Except he never agreed to that debate.

He agreed to debate Biden twice. Biden dropped out after one debate, so the previous agreement does not stand.

If we want that debate to happen then great, Biden v Trump 2 would be another must watch disaster. But at no point has Trump ever agreed to debate Harris.

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1 minute ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Except he never agreed to that debate.

He agreed to debate Biden twice. Biden dropped out after one debate, so the previous agreement does not stand.

If we want that debate to happen then great, Biden v Trump 2 would be another must watch disaster. But at no point has Trump ever agreed to debate Harris.

Sounds like he is a cowardly shit to me. Also, how could Harris refuse to debate trump if he never agreed to debate her in the first place shithead?

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19 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Except he never agreed to that debate.

He agreed to debate Biden twice. Biden dropped out after one debate, so the previous agreement does not stand.

If we want that debate to happen then great, Biden v Trump 2 would be another must watch disaster. But at no point has Trump ever agreed to debate Harris.

So why does he want a different debate host and network when it shouldn't make a difference who he's debating? He already agreed to it with Biden.

Do you really think he's being treated unfairly?

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5 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/politics/kamala-harris-vice-president-debate-2024/index.html

"Vice President Kamala Harris has agreed to debate Donald Trump’s future running mate, a Biden campaign official told CNN Thursday."

 

Harris must debate JD Vance. She agreed to it, and those are apparently the rules.

Oh so it's just a technicality. That is fucking humiliating for her if she still agreed 

You want her to be humiliated so that a technicality can be upheld even though she isn't running for Veep anymore

What a crock

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4 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

Oh so it's just a technicality. That is fucking humiliating for her if she still agreed 

You want her to be humiliated so that a technicality can be upheld even though she isn't running for Veep anymore

What a crock

Great, now apply that exact same logic about it being a technicality and a different person/position to the previously agreed to Trump-Biden debates.

Now whats the result of that train of thought?

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24 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

But at no point has Trump ever agreed to debate Harris.

Correct, he made a show of refusing to debate her for two weeks, got called out on it, and then last night publicly announced a date/GOP venue on his social media without vetting or negotiating it with the other side, and got called out on that too. And that makes her the chicken?

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1 minute ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Great, now apply that exact same logic about it being a technicality and a different person/position to the previously agreed to Trump-Biden debates.

Now whats the result of that train of thought?

The presidents should be debating.  Without changing the location and rules immediately.  This is on ABC, not CNN.

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4 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Great, now apply that exact same logic about it being a technicality and a different person/position to the previously agreed to Trump-Biden debates.

Now whats the result of that train of thought?

You know, literally everyone realizes you're already back on the Trump train, right?

Like, you can keep pretending you hate Project 2025, but we know you're going to vote for him. Just admit you like your """leaders""" to be spineless cowards who piss themselves at the first thought of challenge.

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11 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Great, now apply that exact same logic about it being a technicality and a different person/position to the previously agreed to Trump-Biden debates.

Now whats the result of that train of thought?

🤔 A.... presidential debate?

Pst...c'mere. let's go to the football thread and rest them jimmies

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1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Except he never agreed to that debate.

He agreed to debate Biden twice. Biden dropped out after one debate, so the previous agreement does not stand.

If we want that debate to happen then great, Biden v Trump 2 would be another must watch disaster. But at no point has Trump ever agreed to debate Harris.

The debates in question are called the PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES as in whoever the presidential nominees are, that's who will be on the stage. If something had physically happened to Biden, Harris would already be President, still likely the nominee and would still have been on that stage.

It was never called 'Fat Liar Calls All The Shots & Cries About Fake News Until Bedtime'. Drumpf is refusing to debate in the previously agreed manner because he can't 'debate' in such an area with someone who will call him out for every stupid thing he stutters on stage that isn't answering the question. 

 

Further, your link to the Harris/Vance VP debate was dated...5.16.24. That was before she became the PRESIDENTIAL nominee due to....continued pants shitting over Biden's age coupled with a rather harsher reaction to catching COVID than was first reported. Maybe if the entire Drumpf campaign hadn't been 'I'm younger than HIM by always a full 4 years! VOTE FOR ME!' he'd be better prepared for change. But he's not. He's only got his 'greatest' hits and a long list of grievances. 

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2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/16/politics/kamala-harris-vice-president-debate-2024/index.html

"Vice President Kamala Harris has agreed to debate Donald Trump’s future running mate, a Biden campaign official told CNN Thursday."

 

Harris must debate JD Vance. She agreed to it, and those are apparently the rules.

Why would a presidential candidate debate the VP?  Don’t be ridiculous. No longer debating a VP candidate as a presidential candidate is not the same as refusing to do a presidential debate with a different presidential candidate. There’s plenty of time for Trump to prepare for Harris.  He’s the chicken shit. Not Harris. It’s so interesting how you use your mental gymnastics to try and make Harris look bad. 

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23 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

 

And if it is Shapiro, this is going to get fun to watch.

Not only is there the antisemitism problem from the Democrats to contend with, but now this article surfaces where he, correctly, says that Palestinians are too battle minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.

Wow. Really MD? “Correctly says….” 
How is this not a bigoted statement?  You agreeing with a bigoted statement is the same as making it yourself 

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21 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Wow. Really MD? “Correctly says….” 
How is this not a bigoted statement?  You agreeing with a bigoted statement is the same as making it yourself 

Teaching Terror: How Hamas Radicalizes Palestinian Society

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/teaching-terror-how-hamas-radicalizes-palestinian-society

 

This is from 2007 talking about this exact phenomena. Hamas has spent nearly 20 years now raising people with the mentality that terrorism is the correct path forward. Nothing has changed since this was first written. Hamas actively encourages a culture of violence and terrorism.

There is no difference today between the people in Gaza and the people in Japan during the WW2 era.

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2 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Teaching Terror: How Hamas Radicalizes Palestinian Society

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/teaching-terror-how-hamas-radicalizes-palestinian-society

 

This is from 2007 talking about this exact phenomena. Hamas has spent nearly 20 years now raising people with the mentality that terrorism is the correct path forward. Nothing has changed since this was first written. Hamas actively encourages a culture of violence and terrorism.

There is no difference today between the people in Gaza and the people in Japan during the WW2 era.

Omfg no MD. I’m supposed to believe the Washington Institute?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy
 

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/

and what do you mean by “they’re no different than people in Japan during WW2”?

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15 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Teaching Terror: How Hamas Radicalizes Palestinian Society

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/teaching-terror-how-hamas-radicalizes-palestinian-society

 

This is from 2007 talking about this exact phenomena. Hamas has spent nearly 20 years now raising people with the mentality that terrorism is the correct path forward. Nothing has changed since this was first written. Hamas actively encourages a culture of violence and terrorism.

There is no difference today between the people in Gaza and the people in Japan during the WW2 era.

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The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP or TWI, also known simply as The Washington Institute) is a pro-Israel American think tank based in Washington, D.C.,[3][4] focused on the foreign policy of the United States in the Near East.

[...]

M.J. Rosenberg criticized the organization on Al Jazeera for having strong ties to the pro-Israel lobbying group AIPAC and for being founded by a former AIPAC employee.[40]

In a December 2003 interview on Al Jazeera, Rashid Khalidi, a Palestinian-American professor and director of Columbia University's Middle East Institute, sharply criticized WINEP, stating that it is "the fiercest of the enemies of the Arabs and the Muslims", and describing it as the "most important Zionist propaganda tool in the United States."[41] In response, Martin Kramer, the editor of the Middle East Quarterly and a visiting fellow at WINEP, defended the group, saying that it is "run by Americans, and accepts funds only from American sources," and that it was "outrageous" for Khalidi to denounce Arabs that visited WINEP as "blundering dupes."[42]

John Mearsheimer, a University of Chicago political science professor, and Stephen Walt, academic dean at Harvard Kennedy School at Harvard University, describe it as "part of the core" of the pro-Israeli lobby in the United States.[43] Discussing the group in their book, The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, Mearsheimer and Walt write:

Although WINEP plays down its links to Israel and claims that it provides a 'balanced and realistic' perspective on Middle East issues, this is not the case. In fact, WINEP is funded and run by individuals who are deeply committed to advancing Israel's agenda ... Many of its personnel are genuine scholars or experienced former officials, but they are hardly neutral observers on most Middle East issues and there is little diversity of views within WINEP's ranks."[43]

Hmmm. Why'd you go with a source funded by AIPAC?

I wonder.... 🤔

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59 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Teaching Terror: How Hamas Radicalizes Palestinian Society

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/teaching-terror-how-hamas-radicalizes-palestinian-society

 

This is from 2007 talking about this exact phenomena. Hamas has spent nearly 20 years now raising people with the mentality that terrorism is the correct path forward. Nothing has changed since this was first written. Hamas actively encourages a culture of violence and terrorism.

There is no difference today between the people in Gaza and the people in Japan during the WW2 era.

MAGAts do the same thing in the name and image of their golden fraud. It was only recently that the 'political violence is wrong' was whispered briefly after Dodgy Donny managed to avoid getting fatally hit by some dude that actually got kicked out of a gun club somewhere for sucking. But they themselves still fully believe that might makes Reich and have a whole playbook to use to gut actual America and rule by violence and terrorism because why not.

The people of Japan for the most part had zero to do with the political activities that were responsible for their country's involvement in WW2. They lived in an environment where opinions contrary to those pushed by the military [ not the Emperor although things were often phrased that way ] were punished. The 'suicide bombers' of Japan existed because there was no actual plans to help survivors after the war. Returning injured in any way was considered both cowardly and being an unnecessary burden on the rest of good society. Soldiers were forcibly drafted and shipped off, often to starve on an island somewhere for the good of their country. 

 

Read a damn book. And NOT one by anyone that's appeared on Faux Noise or Caveman Grunt Network. 

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6 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

Hate to say this, but I could easily explain the difference away.  Pictures don't lie, but they can be manipulated to look like they say something they don't.  

True, but he did make several comments throughout his rally complaining that "there are thousands of people outside and they could really fit another 600 people in here".

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10 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Great, now apply that exact same logic about it being a technicality and a different person/position to the previously agreed to Trump-Biden debates.

Now whats the result of that train of thought?

I'm going to give you a wild scenario.

It's 2020. Trump has a heart attack and has to step down for his campaign and endorses Pence

Should Pence still debate Harris even though he's no longer the Veep candidate 

THE ANSWER IS STILL NO

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seems intent on losing GA again

https://x.com/GaSecofState/status/1819861336924254404

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Former President Donald Trump is reopening an old feud with Republicans in Georgia.

Just before rallying supporters in Atlanta on Saturday, Trump unleashed a tirade on the state’s popular Republican governor, Brian Kemp, whose vaunted ground game operation Trump may need in November, ripping into him on Truth Social for “fighting Unity and the Republican Party.”

And when Trump took the stage, he went at him even harder.

“He’s a bad guy, he’s a disloyal guy and he’s a very average governor,” Trump told supporters, eliciting boos toward Kemp from the crowd.

The attack — on social media and in person at the Georgia State University Convocation Center — marked an escalation of Trump’s longstanding criticism of Kemp. And it instantly unsettled Georgia Republicans, who warned Trump’s comments threaten his already shaky prospects in the state.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/03/trump-brian-kemp-georgia-00172564

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Damn. Utterly fascinating how he seemed to latch onto that whole "unity" message after his near-miss, as if he thinks that's key to winning over anyone. The latest buzz word to make him sound like the better choice.. except every single call for unity always seems couched in an attack against one group or another...

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19 hours ago, Jman said:

He did one of his late-night tirades, and demanded it be on Fox with no fact checking.  Which is telling.

Trump almost walked out of the NABJ convention before he even took the stage because they didn't agree to not fact check. It's also why he was an hour late.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4808075-nabj-trump-interview-fact-check-kamala-harris/

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