katt_goddess Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, Raptorpat said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/jennifer-crumbley-trial-verdict-school-shooting-b2490849.html Mom gets convicted of involuntary manslaughter for son's school shooting. I'd love to hear that the moron that gave Kyle Rittenhouse a chance to use 'a really cool looking gun' pissed himself to death with this verdict. But I'm more likely to get an NRA scare-spam in my inbox about how the LiBeRaL cOuRtS are comin' for mah guns again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) Surprised nobody posted this yet. Seems there was an attempted mass shooting Joel Osteen's Texas megachurch. Shooter has a history of metal illness and by the sounds of it, it was a terrorist attack. There were no fatalities during the incident but the shooter's son (yes, she brought her son along) was shot in the head and is not expected to survive. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68277166 Edited February 13 by Sieg67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/us/live-news/kansas-city-chiefs-parade-shooting-02-14-24/index.html 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Good thing Swift didn’t go because police would be struggling to keep her safe instead of civilians. The death toll is likely to increase. 3 of the 22 shot are critical and 5 are serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) florida cop loses his gotdamned mind. marquis jackson later posted on his social media Edited February 15 by discolé monade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperxmns Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Will Missouri enact an actual gun law of any kind now? Who the fuck knows 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 20 minutes ago, viperxmns said: Will Missouri enact an actual gun law of any kind now? Who the fuck knows Probably not. I looked up their gun laws. You’re right. They have none. For all we know more than half the people there were armed and the people in police custody might not even be involved in the shootings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 School shooting in a Georgia school, Apalachee HS. Didn’t school just start? Nothing is going to change because of our constitution and those interpreting it. It’s all about “the right to bear arms shall not be infringed” while ignoring that first part about the “well regulated militia” https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Nothing will change. This country should have had a major gun reform after the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. 🙄 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 55 minutes ago, Insipid said: Nothing will change. This country should have had a major gun reform after the 2017 Las Vegas shooting. 🙄 Sad af but it’s so true. When we did nothing after Sandy Hook, I knew I would never see a change in my lifetime 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 The shooter is 14 yo https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-high-school-shooting-authorities-say-14-year-old-suspect-will-be-charged-with-murder-after-4-killed-9-injured-205326908.html Holy fuckin shit, this world, this fuckin country 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I feel like they need to take advantage of catching one of these school shooters live for once so they aren't trying to piece together his mental state in the past tense 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 57 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: I feel like they need to take advantage of catching one of these school shooters live for once so they aren't trying to piece together his mental state in the past tense It’s not going to change anything though nothing will come from anything they may or may not learn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 6 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: School shooting in a Georgia school, Apalachee HS. Didn’t school just start? Nothing is going to change because of our constitution and those interpreting it. It’s all about “the right to bear arms shall not be infringed” while ignoring that first part about the “well regulated militia” https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/09/04/us/winder-ga-shooting-apalachee-high-school School usually starts August 1st here, for whatever reason. As always, thoughts and prayers, and nothing else. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 29 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: It’s not going to change anything though nothing will come from anything they may or may not learn. I'd just rather know for certain than speculate, the gun things won't happen and non-gun things are just us shooting in the dark 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Maybe there would’ve been some type of curveball as far back as Virginia Tech or Columbine if cops and news anchors just said “lol yeah this is a broken head and sick puppy weirdo loser. Let’s not air out his shit on TV and other places for impressionable freaks to see.” But regardless, it’s happened kahjillions of fucking times since. Hopefully outlets have stopped caring about wanting to share manifestos but the damage is long done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, SwimOdin said: School usually starts August 1st here, for whatever reason. As always, thoughts and prayers, and nothing else. Damn you guys start school early pretty much all that’s going to happen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Raptorpat said: I'd just rather know for certain than speculate, the gun things won't happen and non-gun things are just us shooting in the dark Non gun things won’t matter because the guns are the problem. They’re too easy to get. Laws are too easy to circumvent. Even if we had the best mental healthcare system in the world it will not matter if we don’t deal with the guns. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 It won't stop people already intent on it but it can't hurt society to get a better firsthand picture of the complete collapse of youth mental health, and it forces the perpetrator to have to reckon with what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Thoughts and Prayers Shield activate! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 20 hours ago, [classic swim] said: Maybe there would’ve been some type of curveball as far back as Virginia Tech or Columbine if cops and news anchors just said “lol yeah this is a broken head and sick puppy weirdo loser. Let’s not air out his shit on TV and other places for impressionable freaks to see.” But regardless, it’s happened kahjillions of fucking times since. Hopefully outlets have stopped caring about wanting to share manifestos but the damage is long done. An aside about the Columbine thing, the two that went on their rampage did so against all the jocks and 'popular' kids that were going out of their way to make anyone who wasn't a jock or 'popular' kids' life miserable. And what was the first thing the school did when it reopened after the remodel? Held a pep rally. Because learning is hard. I'm not saying this to defend any of what happened. I'm firmly in the camp of surviving that bullshit and making all those bullies look stupid by going out into the world and being a success while they end up working for the gas station in the ol' hometown. But honestly feels like a lot of things could function better if all idiots were treated equally instead of letting some things get so out of hand that someone on the edge decides to 2A their classmates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 20 hours ago, Raptorpat said: It won't stop people already intent on it but it can't hurt society to get a better firsthand picture of the complete collapse of youth mental health, and it forces the perpetrator to have to reckon with what he did. I would agree if we were a nation capable of dealing with more than one thing at a time. When the focus is on mental health it’s used as a means to say “guns are not the problem, mental health is the issue” and that inevitably steers focus away from the fact that yeah sure, mental health is definitely an issue but it’s also an issue how easily they can obtain guns. There are two or more problems happening and none really get dealt with. It can’t hurt to know why or what but it won’t help the next person from getting a firearm. Additionally, there aren’t always warnings when this happens. Not in this case though, he was on police radar for like a year https://apnews.com/article/georgia-high-school-shooting-c3c97267a4dfff64a59e1605e515c2f9 Kid denied making those posts and there wasn’t enough evidence to charge him with the threat 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 34 minutes ago, katt_goddess said: lot of things could function better if all idiots were treated equally instead of letting some things get so out of hand that someone on the edge decides to 2A their classmates. I could say “bullying’s just a way of life” but it’s not even that. We’re awful people. I go outside every day fully knowing not a single person values my life, and vice versa. There’s no such thing as community or compassion in the outside world and it’s every man for themself by a wide margin. Difference being we can all fantasize killing each other without needing to act out on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 33 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: I would agree if we were a nation capable of dealing with more than one thing at a time. When the focus is on mental health it’s used as a means to say “guns are not the problem, mental health is the issue” and that inevitably steers focus away from the fact that yeah sure, mental health is definitely an issue but it’s also an issue how easily they can obtain guns. There are two or more problems happening and none really get dealt with. It can’t hurt to know why or what but it won’t help the next person from getting a firearm. Additionally, there aren’t always warnings when this happens. Not in this case though, he was on police radar for like a year https://apnews.com/article/georgia-high-school-shooting-c3c97267a4dfff64a59e1605e515c2f9 Kid denied making those posts and there wasn’t enough evidence to charge him with the threat That is outright strange. His discord profile was in Russian and it was accessed in Buffalo, NY. At any rate, it curdles my blood to think it, but what if the whole point of doing nothing to stop kids from shooting up schools is, in fact, that those shootings need to happen? We rarely talk about the aftermath of school shootings, except for the occasional Alex Jones beatdown and the brave, lonely quest of David Hogg, and I dread that is intentional. The flip side to a loss of innocence is a proverbial baptism in fire; you can't help but think that 2nd Amendment fanatics, the gun lobby, and conservative politicians forsee a future where everyone owns a weapon and is willing to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 21 hours ago, Raptorpat said: It won't stop people already intent on it but it can't hurt society to get a better firsthand picture of the complete collapse of youth mental health, and it forces the perpetrator to have to reckon with what he did. I disagree. Not that youth mental health isn't in crisis - mass shooting events aren't really about mental health, and they never were. The problem is that the shooters aren't merely disturbed, they're disconnected. If you attempt to collect the various backstories for the mental health of these shooters, you'll not only find that there isn't an obvious stressor or a pattern of abuse, you'll also find the source of the distress tends to be an accumulation of fairly mundane slights that compound. You can fairly argue that toxic masculinity is a key component; yet it's not new while school shootings have definitively increased. The only real correlation you'll find is that all of these kids "kept to themselves," or "didn't talk much"/"was quiet." That is a tell tale sign that they're not included within society, and don't have access to the rudimentary coping tools they would ordinarily use to deal with stressors. It's also an indication that there is nothing for them to reckon with - they have no connection to society so there is no break to grieve. That might easily explain how it continues to happen so easily. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 55 minutes ago, [classic swim] said: I could say “bullying’s just a way of life” but it’s not even that. We’re awful people. I go outside every day fully knowing not a single person values my life, and vice versa. There’s no such thing as community or compassion in the outside world and it’s every man for themself by a wide margin. Difference being we can all fantasize killing each other without needing to act out on it. There's bullying and then there's the systemic wolfpacking that's almost encouraged by supposed adults in school settings where certain students - whether because they come from 'better families' or are in athletics - are able to get away with all sorts of asshole behavior against anyone that's 'beneath' them socially and/or economically without any fears of being punished for it while the target of their actions will absolutely get hauled to the office the second they dare to push back. Plus, you now have idiots who can 'follow' you home with their bullying via social media. At least when I was growing up, that didn't exist. I don't go out of my way to be an asshole, I just will be one to you if you start it though and will admit it. But I also won't go and grab a gun to be the bigger asshole in a fight. If I hate you enough to hurt you, I'll hit you and its highly likely you took a swing first. I do prefer this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 minutes ago, katt_goddess said: If I hate you enough to hurt you, I'll hit you and its highly likely you took a swing first. Used to encourage fist duking except no one knows how to actually fight anymore and it’s typically jumping anyway. So to hell with it. Wait till their back’s turned and crack their fucking cranium with a wooden baseball bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, [classic swim] said: Used to encourage fist duking except no one knows how to actually fight anymore and it’s typically jumping anyway. So to hell with it. Wait till their back’s turned and crack their fucking cranium with a wooden baseball bat. I am still able to put my fist through a metal DVD player without injury. If I did go all out, something is going to break. As for the DVD player, that's what you get for chewing on one of my Star Trek movies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1pooh4u Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Gray’s father has been arrested and charged with murder, manslaughter? I’m going to read the article rn https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/father-georgia-high-school-shooting-suspect-arrested/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 They think the father bought the gun for his son. Good arrest that son of a bitch too. Enough with parents buying deadly weapons for their children that gets used like this. The father knew that kid wasn’t ok 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satou Kazuma Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 No one hacks a discord account just to post a message about shooting up schools, especially locally. 100% the kid posted it then deleted and got paranoid when cops showed up that year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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André Toulon Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 https://www.startribune.com/kentucky-governor-warns-of-shooting-on-i-75-south-of-lexington/601140424 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) One thing that annoys me about this shit is how conservatives want to play semantics. I don't care how they categorize guns. It doesn't change the fact they're being used in mass shootings. Edited September 10 by Sieg67 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 In the past week, there has been an unusually high number of threats in schools in my area. An interesting point has been brought up: foreign adversaries could start making fake threats to create paranoia in the American public. They have seen that nothing but lip service gets done in response to gun violence. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 Friend of a friend was hit by a bullet, running from the Hush shooting in Birmingham, AL. Said as he was running, he felt pain and fell to the ground. He got to a diner, who flagged down a cop, but a friend (who was also hit) was able to drive him to UAB Hospital. He's ok, the bullet missed the femoral by millimeters, but when he fell, he said he looked back and saw a bunch of bodies. My friend lives about 2 blocks away from where it occurred. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 I'm glad your friend is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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