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10 minutes ago, Insipid said:

Yeah, have people forgotten public executions were once a thing? Who cares that he was a father? Plenty of horrible people were good sons, fathers, husbands, etc. These elite assholes are fine having Haitians and Hispanics vilified as the reason this country sucks, and a convicted felon is soon gonna be president again . . . and I'm supposed to feel bad for a privileged white man who was head of company that denied many people healthcare and cost them their lives? How many of these people were loved, but they still ultimately died?

I don't care, I'll state it here. I am glad Brian Thompson died.

Ted Bundy was considered exceptionally friendly prior to him being caught.

Maybe this guy was too.

Still a serial killer, still rotten to the core, still a better world without them.

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Luigi Mangione seemed to have had a pretty Republican leaning twitter account.  Seemed to like Elon Musk. Wrote a review on a book about the UnaBomber.  Said he was “rightly imprisoned”. I really want to hear this guy’s story. Maybe he never wanted to completely get away with his crimes?  Maybe he planned on more but couldn’t after the first?  

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3 hours ago, naraku360 said:

If someone assassinated Hitler shortly after the holocaust started, would you take issue with people landing between uncaring and gleeful?

'Cause the guy was doing his own lil holocaust for sick people.

Pardon me while I cry myself to sleep over the death of a monster I didn't even know. It's so tragic a serial killer sociopath is gone, boohoo.

Tsar isn’t talking about HMO Brian, though.

We should be cognizant of the fact that we are in a hellscape now and that there are people who think we should be dead, just like BriBri.  Bringing Luigi to justice or letting him off makes no difference in a world run by Trump and his cronies, but we should still appreciate that the justice system is so broken we can’t  seeking sanity or to right the ship by it.

All that is to say it’s a waste of time to justify a CEOs assasination.  The guy wasn’t making anything better and killing him didn’t fix anything either.  If I you get some satisfaction in his somewhat cartoonish death, than that’s enough to get you to the real work.

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8 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Tsar isn’t talking about HMO Brian, though.

We should be cognizant of the fact that we are in a hellscape now and that there are people who think we should be dead, just like BriBri.  Bringing Luigi to justice or letting him off makes no difference in a world run by Trump and his cronies, but we should still appreciate that the justice system is so broken we can’t  seeking sanity or to right the ship by it.

All that is to say it’s a waste of time to justify a CEOs assasination.  The guy wasn’t making anything better and killing him didn’t fix anything either.  If I you get some satisfaction in his somewhat cartoonish death, than that’s enough to get you to the real work.

I'm only pushing back against the pearl clutching. 

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2 hours ago, discolé monade said:

Very thorough analysis there. One has to wonder, if there hadn't been so much attention given to this case, would the guy ever have been caught? I mean, it took a public citizen recognizing him, and had the media not been covering this story so relentlessly, what are the chances of that happening?

The thing I can't help thinking about is why then did this case garner so much fascination and attention from people? It's not that somebody got shot out in public. Happens everyday. It's not that the killer got away for a while. We're at the point now where less than half the murder cases in the country are solved.

https://projects.csgjusticecenter.org/tools-for-states-to-address-crime/the-accountability-gap-unsolved-violent-crime-in-the-united-states/

https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/01/12/as-murders-spiked-police-solved-about-half-in-2020

That's one of the worst clearance rates among countries in the industrialized world btw apparently. Germany consistently clears around 90% of their cases. So what is it then? Well, it's pretty obvious right. It's the fact that the guy shot was one of the seemingly untouchable elite. If it had been some Joe Schmo, outside of a brief story or two on some local news coverage that very few people anymore follow, nobody would have covered this, and therefore almost nobody would have seen this guy's face and been able to identify him. Hell, that's even assuming the police would of put the time and resources that they did into solving it without the added media pressure on them to do so and even found an image of the guy's face to put out there to begin with.

So what does it all boil down to? I guess it just seems to be another instance showing that the idea of equal justice under the law in this country is really just that. It's simply an idea. A fantasy, nothing more. That's what's underlying all of this, and why I don't at all blame people for not having sympathy for Brian Thompson. He doesn't need our sympathy anyway. He's dead. His family on the other hand, I do feel bad for them, but only a little. I feel much worse for the loved ones of the victims who never get the closure that they're going to get. If there's anything this case should get us to be really pissed about, I'd say it's why is this country only good at this when it's somebody "important" that this happens to? Or why are we so far behind frickin Germany?!

Oh btw, I couldn't help but notice, the worst state at solving violent crime in the US (as of 2022): Florida. Almost 80%. Seriously?! Why am I not surprised though?

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Also, the McDonalds worker who snitched on him will likely not get the 60k reward for tipping off the cops.

To get it, they need to be nominated by the FBI and then he approved by the US Secretary of State. Can you even fucking imagine being the most hated snitch in America and not even being able to get that bag?

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Mangione shouted “It’s extremely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience!” as he was being led into a PA courtroom, facing extradition 

https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-murder-suspect-in-custody-live-updates/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

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1 minute ago, matrixman124 said:

Also, the McDonalds worker who snitched on him will likely not get the 60k reward for tipping off the cops.

To get it, they need to be nominated by the FBI and then he approved by the US Secretary of State. Can you even fucking imagine being the most hated snitch in America and not even being able to get that bag?

*womp womp* 

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On X he followed Musk Thiel and some other r wing bum, Tucker Carlson, maybe?  One outlet reported he “agreed w Tucker Carlson” on some issue, but it looked like Mangione made a clarification that seemed like he didn’t actually agree with him.  None of this really matters.  He’s not unlike many of us who don’t gaf about a cause until we, ourselves, get fucked over by something. He suffered from chronic back pain and had surgery that probably didn’t help him. Insurance probably (definitely) made getting treatment impossible to difficult and he became disillusioned with the healthcare system.  A friend of his reported Mangione was unable to engage in sexual intimacy because the pain was so bad.  Chronic pain can most definitely lead to an altered mental state.  Insurance companies deny treatment and make people mentally ill. 

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23 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

On X he followed Musk Thiel and some other r wing bum, Tucker Carlson, maybe?  One outlet reported he “agreed w Tucker Carlson” on some issue, but it looked like Mangione made a clarification that seemed like he didn’t actually agree with him.  None of this really matters.  He’s not unlike many of us who don’t gaf about a cause until we, ourselves, get fucked over by something. He suffered from chronic back pain and had surgery that probably didn’t help him. Insurance probably (definitely) made getting treatment impossible to difficult and he became disillusioned with the healthcare system.  A friend of his reported Mangione was unable to engage in sexual intimacy because the pain was so bad.  Chronic pain can most definitely lead to an altered mental state.  Insurance companies deny treatment and make people mentally ill. 

He was a privileged kid who got fucked over by insurance companies and then took that anger and attached it to ideology

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11 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

He was a privileged kid who got fucked over by insurance companies and then took that anger and attached it to ideology

Most people don’t take it as far as he did but a lot of people don’t start caring about a cause until they’re impacted by it.  He could have went to Mommy and Daddy to help pay for treatment, but he didn’t. 

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58 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

I'm pretty sure Mandark would become one.

 Dexter and DeeDee are my grandkids; when they were little, it was a pretty accurate description. I don't use their real names because they're not my kids; in fact, I don't think I've ever identified my kids by name.

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12 minutes ago, Jman said:

The more of this I see the more curious I am about why he didn’t leave the country.  He apparently had the means.  Was he worried about being picked up at a checkpoint?

Maybe he just lacks common sense, like how he was spotted with his mask down eating in public instead of just taking it home. I'm sure those hash browns taste like dog shit cold, but come on, dude.

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4 hours ago, Jman said:

The more of this I see the more curious I am about why he didn’t leave the country.  He apparently had the means.  Was he worried about being picked up at a checkpoint?

I asked the same thing. Why tf was he in PA after 5 days?  He should have been long gone 

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10 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I asked the same thing. Why tf was he in PA after 5 days?  He should have been long gone 

Probably just didn't care as much about getting away with it as people thought. The goal was to kill the CEO and everything else was secondary.

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8 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

He could have been cocky. The guy was also in chronic back pain and that impacts decision making

That’s a good point. I just wonder if he wanted to get caught.  Seems like he could have went anywhere in the world 

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36 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

That’s a good point. I just wonder if he wanted to get caught.  Seems like he could have went anywhere in the world 

People who want to get caught don't usually use ghost guns.

 

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33 minutes ago, Mix said:

People who want to get caught don't usually use ghost guns.

 

 Maybe he had more plans and didn’t intend on getting caught so soon.  his review of the Unabomber Manifesto, it leaves me to believe that perhaps, he didn’t intend on getting away with it forever. 

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https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/freak-accident-turned-luigi-mangione-180522081.html

Seems he had a spinal condition, spondylolisthesis, since childhood that got aggravated by something that happened to him during his first surfing lesson. Left him with intermittent numbness and a misaligned spine. He had surgery it seems, which seemed to help a bit but apparently left him with issues like not being able to sleep and IBS. Goes on to say he looked into psychedelics, but no evidence he actually tried them.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I expected. Pretty tragic all right. I was thinking of that quote form the Joker, "All it takes is one bad day..." This guy had more than just a bad day though, and he wasn't crazy. Still, you never know what can happen. Sometimes the smallest thing can send your life hurtling in a whole different direction.

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