Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Not only that but it’s such a bullshit attempt I think it was someone who knew what the results of a failed attempt would be and now that the shooter is conveniently dead we won’t ever really know Which is why I don’t think anyone will really rally behind Trump. Everyone is too focused on their side to believe any narrative from the opposition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 19 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Whoever it was hopefully the next person won’t miss I hope they do miss. It's bad enough orange blood has been drawn - let's not see him made a martyr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Jman said: Which is why I don’t think anyone will really rally behind Trump. Everyone is too focused on their side to believe any narrative from the opposition. People rally behind him whenever something happens to him. That’s why I don’t understand people thinking Biden got this in the bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, mthor said: I hope they do miss. It's bad enough orange blood has been drawn - let's not see him made a martyr. Rather him be a dead martyr than a living president enacting policies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, 1pooh4u said: People rally behind him whenever something happens to him. That’s why I don’t understand people thinking Biden got this in the bag Hardly. Gonna take a lot of work. But Trump hasn’t been gifted anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Jman said: Hardly. Gonna take a lot of work. But Trump hasn’t been gifted anything. We’ll see in the next few days, if not immediately, if this attempt was a gift or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 7 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Rather him be a dead martyr than a living president enacting policies You think whoever would replace him and run a campaign of carrying on MAGA (as the Donald would have wanted) would be an improvement? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Jman said: You aren’t wrong. If we’re all pissed off at Trump for promoting violent rhetoric, then allowing the same towards the other side is hypocritical and missing the point. I won't advocate violence. I also won't express any sympathy for Trump. The world would be a better place without him, but I'm not in favor of capital punishment in the first place, so behind bars is more my speed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Gemini said: Okay. I’ll respond to you, but that’s it. I’ve never promoted political violence in any form. Those who do are also wrong. Edit: I understand, Jman. I just felt I needed to clarify. To be clear, my bad aim crack wasn't to be taken seriously. I have no sympathy for the guy, and that's the extent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, mthor said: You think whoever would replace him and run a campaign of carrying on MAGA (as the Donald would have wanted) would be an improvement? No one else can pull off what Trump can. It’s why people like Lake and Walker lose elections 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said: No one else can pull off what Trump can. It’s why people like Lake and Walker lose elections Meh, sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, naraku360 said: I won't advocate violence. I also won't express any sympathy for Trump. The world would be a better place without him, but I'm not in favor of capital punishment in the first place, so behind bars is more my speed. That’s been my POV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 (edited) I don’t advocate violence but I’m not gonna feel bad and pretend like I’m glad his head wasn’t blown off. Trump has done things that have enacted policies that actually kill people. His bullshit that he started with COVID got a lot of people killed, including my mother. So no, I do not feel bad for my feelings. So no, I will not feel bad for hoping the next attempt succeeds. Idgaf who has a problem with that. Edited July 14 by 1pooh4u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: I don’t advocate violence but I’m not gonna feel bad and pretend like I’m glad his head wasn’t blown off. Trump has done things that have enacted policies that actually kill people. His bullshit that he started with COVID got a lot of people killed, including my mother. So no, I do not feel bad for my feelings. So no, I will not feel bad for hoping the next attempt succeeds. Idgaf who has a problem with that. Basically. If Melania's next guy pulls it off, it would be more of a temporary relief than something to be sad over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 Just now, naraku360 said: Basically. If Melania's next guy pulls it off, it would be more of a temporary relief than something to be sad over. Exactly! but it has to happen before he wins otherwise his crazy VP takes over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, 1pooh4u said: Exactly! but it has to happen before he wins otherwise his crazy VP takes over Did he even pick a VP? Like, I think Pence refused do it. Probably something to do with the whole fear of being assassinated by Trunp goons ordeal during Jan 6. That might've soured the deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, naraku360 said: Did he even pick a VP? Like, I think Pence refused do it. Probably something to do with the whole fear of being assassinated by Trunp goons ordeal during Jan 6. That might've soured the deal. Not yet but whoever he picks it won’t be someone who won’t do whatever Trump asks. Like to not certify an election. Was Pence even an option? Was he really asked? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tsar4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 WGN Chicago reporting that the Secret Service states that 2 attendees were injured and one was dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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katt_goddess Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, mthor said: You think whoever would replace him and run a campaign of carrying on MAGA (as the Donald would have wanted) would be an improvement? Everyone he surrounds himself with are all sycophants with as much charm as a six-pack of generic t.p. sitting in a puddle. He has never wanted anyone with any level of charisma to equal his own because it's always been his show and he's the only star allowed. It's one of the reasons he's dragged out the VP pick - that and I'm guessing each one on the short list has been 'assisting' him with his current bills so he wants that to go on as long as possible. He goes and you end up with a bunch of leftover lieutenants all attempting to cling to their own sense of power by outcrazying the other crazies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Edit,: nah, not really in the mood Edited July 14 by Insipid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Optimistically, this is the moment Trump realizes shit's getting real and decides to just drop out before someone gets another chance. Does he really strike anyone as willing to risk his own life to seize control? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, rpgamer said: Optimistically, this is the moment Trump realizes shit's getting real and decides to just drop out before someone gets another chance. Does he really strike anyone as willing to risk his own life to seize control? Just as much of a chance as him seeing this as divine protection and that he is the chosen one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, mthor said: You think whoever would replace him and run a campaign of carrying on MAGA (as the Donald would have wanted) would be an improvement? Probably. There's a reason why Trump was the nominee again. Most of the other options are sniveling in ways that make them lack the type of personality Republicans flock to. They can't control a cult or have them so emotionally invested that they just sit staring while several bullets fly in their direction and then cheer when someone might have been bleeding to death(or already dead) at their feet. Clinging to Trump and being propped up by annoying billionaires are why they haven't fallen apart yet. McConnell is too old to rein in his party properly if the worst happens to them, and Trump convinced his followers that McConnell's a traitor anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Looks like an episode of Scandal tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) This just got weirder. The gunman was a registered Republican. The narrative of “unhinged Leftists” is gone now, replaced by “guy wasn’t right in the head, exacerbated by hardcore conservative media” or “he was nuts and thought this would make a celebrity love him.” Edited July 14 by Jman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I'm not surprised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 27 minutes ago, Jman said: This just got weirder. The gunman was a registered Republican. The narrative of “unhinged Leftists” is gone now The truth has never gotten in the way before, I don't know why it would now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Holy shit it's not over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 It's almost like he fits the description of near every public/mass shooter in recent history. Must be a coincidence. I'm sure there's no common thread to be found among them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I was able to put together enough info from Twitter to get into the PA voter record. It's legit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I’m just here to see what the latest on the false flag op is…. Because we all know that some random dude that is on record as being a registered Republican who somehow gave to an unrelated Dem action committee and is now conveniently dead after one of the worst assassination attempts I’ve ever seen is totally legit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, scoobdog said: I’m just here to see what the latest on the false flag op is…. Because we all know that some random dude that is on record as being a registered Republican who somehow gave to an unrelated Dem action committee and is now conveniently dead after one of the worst assassination attempts I’ve ever seen is totally legit. Only 15 dollars too! That's so weird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, matrixman124 said: Only 15 dollars too! That's so weird I found the record for that too. He donated when Biden got inaugurated. Edited July 14 by matrixman124 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 You know, Trump might not be fit for office. Just sayin': he is missing part of his ear. Physically unwell and all that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, Jman said: This just got weirder. The gunman was a registered Republican. The narrative of “unhinged Leftists” is gone now, replaced by “guy wasn’t right in the head, exacerbated by hardcore conservative media” or “he was nuts and thought this would make a celebrity love him.” This isn't very surprising. Republicans have a much worse track record in the not shooting people department. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, scoobdog said: I’m just here to see what the latest on the false flag op is…. Because we all know that some random dude that is on record as being a registered Republican who somehow gave to an unrelated Dem action committee and is now conveniently dead after one of the worst assassination attempts I’ve ever seen is totally legit. Not sure how this relates to that. The whole being dead thing probably has more to do with shooting someone protected by the Secret Sevice moreso than anything involving his incoherent political beliefs or actions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, naraku360 said: Not sure how this relates to that. The whole being dead thing probably has more to do with shooting someone protected by the Secret Sevice moreso than anything involving his incoherent political beliefs or actions. It’s a conspiracy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Can we all just agree attempted assaination attempts do not make you attractive to celebrities? I think the Reagan shooter in 1981 had an equally insane motive. In any case, this makes guns to the mentally ill the issue, not a leftist desperation. Edited July 14 by Jman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Jman said: Can we all just agree attempted assaination attempts do not make you attractive to celebrities? I think the Reagan shooter in 1981 had an equally insane motive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 And the cherry on the shit sundae? Trump's wound wasn't a bullet wound, it was from some glass. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-was-hit-by-glass-fragments-not-a-bullet-report/ 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 So we've started to learn more about what happened, and mannnnnn, I got stuff to say now. First off, How the F did the Secret Service mess this up this badly? That building is the only high-ground location with a clear sight line of where Trump was, and no one thought to guard it? Thats is beyond a fire-able offense for whomever was in charge yesterday. Not only did they not guard it in the first place, but apparently they were completely unprepared to respond to any threat from that building. Multiple people have come forward to say they watched the shooter climb the building, crawl to his spot, set up, and then shoot. They all were warning cops and authorities during this, and yet there was no response. Videos show that these accounts are all true. Theres also video of the counter snipers clearly having a line on the guy but waiting for him to shoot before doing anything about it. So how, how in the hell does that happen? Theres some crazy tinfoil hat stuff being passed around right now. I dont believe it, but man, this kind of gross negligence from the secret service damn near borders on conspiratorial. This is unacceptable from the secret service, and multiple people need to be fired for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Second (im breaking these up now) I dont think people realize just how close we were to a 2nd civil war starting yesterday. This close Literally that close to a 2nd civil war starting. If Trump is assassinated tens of millions of heavily armed MAGA members would go on an absolute rampage looking for vengeance and payback. There would not be a safe place anywhere in this country for a Democratic politician. It would have absolutely been the start of a civil war. Wouldnt matter who the shooter is, or what any investigation found, MAGA would only see their hero dead and blame the Left for it. As it is, I absolutely expect some sort of retaliatory attack from MAGA. I dont necessarily think it will be aimed at a politician though. I think it will be aimed at the media. There has always been hate for the media on the Right, but the language in the last 20ish hours has shifted dramatically. MAGA is blaming the Media for creating the environment that led to someone trying to assassinate Trump. There has always been hate for the media on the Right, and really in the MAGA crowd. But things have shifted. The kind of language you are seeing directed at the media after this is frightening. I would not be surprised, at all, if there are attacks on media members in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Second (im breaking these up now) I dont think people realize just how close we were to a 2nd civil war starting yesterday. This close Literally that close to a 2nd civil war starting. If Trump is assassinated tens of millions of heavily armed MAGA members would go on an absolute rampage looking for vengeance and payback. There would not be a safe place anywhere in this country for a Democratic politician. It would have absolutely been the start of a civil war. Wouldnt matter who the shooter is, or what any investigation found, MAGA would only see their hero dead and blame the Left for it. As it is, I absolutely expect some sort of retaliatory attack from MAGA. I dont necessarily think it will be aimed at a politician though. I think it will be aimed at the media. There has always been hate for the media on the Right, but the language in the last 20ish hours has shifted dramatically. MAGA is blaming the Media for creating the environment that led to someone trying to assassinate Trump. There has always been hate for the media on the Right, and really in the MAGA crowd. But things have shifted. The kind of language you are seeing directed at the media after this is frightening. I would not be surprised, at all, if there are attacks on media members in the near future. That fits a theory the weirdo assassin was subscribed to the same train of thought as McVeigh, that murder would get his side to wipe out all the liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Phase 3 of project 2025 was a success. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Now for Trump himself, and the campaign from here. Trump absolutely just locked up support for November. The GOP base, which already was more enthusiastic to vote in November, is now going to go into overdrive. His actions directly after the assassination attempt are going to go down in history. That photo is going to be in history books for a long time. Its also going to be used all over the place from now until November. The reaction of refusing to run and instead getting up and pumping his fist are really something else. This election had already been a bit of a referendum on overall health between Trump and Biden. Now Trump can say he was literally shot but got up fighting while Biden fights to just get up stairs. You are already seeing that kind of stuff being memed and passed around. This assassination attempt likely solidifies Trumps status as the frontrunner and favorite to win this race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, Jman said: That fits a theory the weirdo assassin was subscribed to the same train of thought as McVeigh, that murder would get his side to wipe out all the liberals. Its the false flag idea BlueAnanon is passing this around right now online. The shooter was actually a right-wing maniac who wanted to inspire a general uprising to take out liberals. Its some wild conspiracy theory stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I can think of one reason why the venue might not have been properly secured. Trump has been increasingly relying on public venues, often on very short notice, because of his horrid reputation of stiffing the bill. No modern president would ever appear in some of the places Trump has had a rally because they’re outdoors, in public spaces that are not designed for large gatherings. Add the fact that Trump usually ignores his security team when choosing where and when to appear and you have recipe for disaster. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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