Greene calls for National Divorce

[matrixman124]

Madge has figured out a nifty new buzzword for secession - National Divorce.

Here's a nifty thread about why anybody who would vote to secede would quickly regret it

 

[Top Gun]

Any time she wants to "divorce" herself from this plane of existence, that'd be great.

[Raptorpat]

Oh man, you beat me to it. Here are the tweets that will become election fodder for the next 21 months:

https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1627665203398688768

ttps://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1627726254320365569

[1pooh4u]

When national divorce happens and the blue states don’t have to pay alimony to the red ones

the red states be like 

[Master-Debater131]

National Divorce isnt anything new. Its been floating around for a while now on various parts of the internet. Conservative blogs and liberal subreddits bring it up fairly regularly, usually when something political doesnt go their way. This may be the first time someone as high profile as MTG has mentioned it though.

The entire thought of it is dumb as hell. Its some fantasy world where the Red and Blue can simply split in some super awesome way thats simply not realistic.

[scoobdog]

Can't wait until the divorce and the entire western seaboard is under blue control, along with a $50 billion agricutlural product from California alone.

Where will Packard get his sushi rice?!!

[1pooh4u]

A member of congress talking about secession from the us isn’t weird at all in the 21st century /s

[katt_goddess]

*Cue Sarah McLauchlin and sad music

'For the cost of a cup of coffee, you can help sponsor a redneck family of five as they bring in the mud harvest in Missouri...'

[scoobdog]

The next hurricane season would be absolutely amazing.  Blue States won't know what to do with all that money.

[scoobdog]

Also, the Colorado River will mysteriously disappear outside of Colorado and New Mexico.

[Walter Von Moo Moo]

2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

When national divorce happens and the blue states don’t have to pay alimony to the red ones

the red states be like 

So, red states need something they could use for money.

[Raptorpat]

The reality though is that it's not just a state-by-state divide, a lot of it is an urban/rural divide. So hypothetically splitting up the states wouldn't make everyone happy, it's a lot messier than that.

[PenguinBoss]

24 minutes ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said:

So, red states need something they could use for money.

...Racism?

[Seight]

Thank god I didn't burn this off in the Random Shit Found On Internet thread first

 

 

[matrixman124]

I do think this sucks for people in red states who don't agree with this nonsense and lack the means to leave. They are suffering because the GOP has manipulated the voting districts and accessible voting for years to maintain a majority. They could suffer because the rest of their state has lost its god damn mind.

[viperxmns]

she does not deserve to be taken seriously as a person and I am so tired of seeing and hearing and reading about her

[The_annoying_one]

1 hour ago, PenguinBoss said:

...Racism?

As a born-and-bred Georgia boy, I think I resent that.

[katt_goddess]

2 hours ago, PenguinBoss said:

...Racism?

I was thinking scabs and shot-up cans.

1 hour ago, matrixman124 said:

I do think this sucks for people in red states who don't agree with this nonsense and lack the means to leave. They are suffering because the GOP has manipulated the voting districts and accessible voting for years to maintain a majority. They could suffer because the rest of their state has lost its god damn mind.

Welcome to North Dakota.  

[Doom Metal Alchemist]

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We aren’t sending our sons & daughters to dies for foreign borders & foreign “democracy.”

I guess the Bush's just don't exist after all?

[Raptorpat]

2 hours ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

I guess the Bush's just don't exist after all?

She's pointing her finger at the libs and the neo-cons. There's a solid split in the party, where the MAGA/Trump people are isolationist and reject GWB/Dick Cheney stuff.

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1627723317657337860

 

[Doom Metal Alchemist]

2 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

She's pointing her finger at the libs and the neo-cons. There's a solid split in the party, where the MAGA/Trump people are isolationist and reject GWB/Dick Cheney stuff.

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1627723317657337860

 

Is she calling neocons left wing?

[Raptorpat]

It's possible because she's really dumb, but I interpreted in the moment as both being on the same side with regards to Ukraine.

[matrixman124]

The neocons are allied with the neolibs on Ukraine so they're traitors or something.

[Winter_Rain]

This is a consequence of the media pushing the idea of "red" and "blue" states for decades.  Makes everything seem cute and neat and like there's some kind of clear division when in reality people's beliefs are quite a bit more messy and complicated than that.  

I say that as a "blue" person who lived in "red" states almost all my life.  There were plenty of people like me (and the reverse too, "red" people in "blue" states).  

At any rate talk of secession is stupid at best and dangerous at worst, and is not the kind of talk we need.  I really can't take it seriously when the topic comes up, because I don't think most people who suggest it seriously, GENUINELY understand the implications of what they are suggesting (because that would require historical knowledge as well as awareness and acknowledgement of the ugly human consequence of population upheaval, economic collapse, and potential war).  

[Raptorpat]

Also worth reminding MTG that, despite a GOP statehouse trifecta, her state did vote for Biden and has two Dem US Senators.

So who gets custody of the swing states in the divorce?

[Jman]

1 hour ago, matrixman124 said:

The neocons are allied with the neolibs on Ukraine so they're traitors or something.

I believe this is the “No True Scotsman” fallacy.  “The only real Americans are the ones that think how I do and act how I do.”

[Raptorpat]

In that mindset, I kind of think recently the best way to troll the MTG types might be to just casually and consistently refer to them as "fake Americans" from "fake America".

Their identity/persona is so wrapped around their America purism that it just kind of cuts to the core as you point out.

[Sieg67]

Wonder how conservatives would feel when they find out that they'd have to write a new Pledge of Allegiance and change the name of The United States to The Divided States.

[Seight]

12 minutes ago, Sieg67 said:

Wonder how conservatives would feel when they find out that they'd have to write a new Pledge of Allegiance and change the name of The United States to The Divided States.

"...fuck, our schools didn't prepare us to 'write' things"

Source: Public school graduate in a state that hates public schools

[Walter Von Moo Moo]

On 2/20/2023 at 7:36 PM, PenguinBoss said:

...Racism?

Texas has a lot of untapped oil and gas.  It can be the first independent state in a long time that accepts things other than the petro dollar.

[matrixman124]

51 minutes ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said:

Texas has a lot of untapped oil and gas.  It can be the first independent state in a long time that accepts things other than the petro dollar.

Oh yeah, I'm sure they won't miss any of their federal subsidies or all the many many national stores that will pull out so they don't piss off the rest of the country. So smart. So wow.

[scoobdog]

2 hours ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said:

Texas has a lot of untapped oil and gas.  It can be the first independent state in a long time that accepts things other than the petro dollar.

Good, that means they’ll have plenty of money to pay Californians for their $12 eggs… as in per egg.

[Walter Von Moo Moo]

8 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Good, that means they’ll have plenty of money to pay Californians for their $12 eggs… as in per egg.

Or just start breeding their own chickens

[scoobdog]

6 hours ago, Walter Von Moo Moo said:

Or just start breeding their own chickens

Oh really?

[katt_goddess]

18 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

Oh yeah, I'm sure they won't miss any of their federal subsidies or all the many many national stores that will pull out so they don't piss off the rest of the country. So smart. So wow.

History has already shown that Texas isn't able to be it's own country. It already tried that when it fought for independence from Mexico because Mexico dared to abolish slavery. They couldn't support themselves back then, they definitely couldn't handle things alone now [ coughshitgridgoesfartcough ]. 

[Top Gun]

Texas can't even manage to keep its own power grid up and running during a bit of winter weather.

[1pooh4u]

On 2/20/2023 at 7:11 PM, Walter Von Moo Moo said:

So, red states need something they could use for money.

And what would that be that the rest of the planet would accept as currency?  Or are they gonna create a new cryptocurrency?

you say this like it’s so easy to create a currency that catches on or maintains any type of value.  
 

besides if a National Divorce ever happened (it won’t in our lifetime) you act like the remaining US wouldn’t sanction the shit out of them and get ally countries to do the same. 

[The_annoying_one]

56 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

And what would that be that the rest of the planet would accept as currency?  Or are they gonna create a new cryptocurrency?

 

[1pooh4u]

3 minutes ago, The_annoying_one said:

 

Add the dog and thimble and then maybe we can make a trade 😆

[The_annoying_one]

5 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Add the dog and thimble and then maybe we can make a trade 😆

I get to be the car.

[1pooh4u]

Just now, The_annoying_one said:

I get to be the car.

I get to flip the board over 6 hours into the game after landing on your sick boardwalk with half a dozen hotels on it for the 3rd time 😆

seriously I have NEVER finished a game of monopoly 😆

[naraku360]

On 2/21/2023 at 6:19 PM, Sieg67 said:

Wonder how conservatives would feel when they find out that they'd have to write a new Pledge of Allegiance and change the name of The United States to The Divided States.

They'll replace the Constitution with Matt Walsh TikToks about how fertile 16 year old girls are and why we should arrange their marriages.

[The_annoying_one]

3 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I get to flip the board over 6 hours into the game after landing on your sick boardwalk with half a dozen hotels on it for the 3rd time 😆

seriously I have NEVER finished a game of monopoly 😆

Are we really doing this?

Guess I’ll clear out my entire friggin’ weekend. Shouldn’t be too hard to do. 🤣

[matrixman124]

On 2/22/2023 at 10:28 AM, Walter Von Moo Moo said:

Or just start breeding their own chickens

I want to really hammer this one. Who is going to breed the chickens? Farmers? Why would they want to breed chickens? Out of a patriotic duty to the nation of Texas? Nah they need incentive. Which would be subsidies. Which is what the federal government already does. Which is often accused of being socialism. Wow wild. Texas already becoming what it left. How sad. 

 

If you're talking about each home having its own chicken, how would that work? Would they have to buy it from a chicken farmer? What if the chicken farms don't want to play ball? They force them? Sounds very authoritarian to me, bud.

Edited February 24, 2023 by matrixman124

[matrixman124]

22 hours ago, The_annoying_one said:

 

Same value as the Confederate dollar too.

[Winter_Rain]

2 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

I want to really hammer this one. Who is going to breed the chickens? Farmers? Why would they want to breed chickens? Out of a patriotic duty to the nation of Texas? Nah they need incentive. Which would be subsidies. Which is what the federal government already does. Which is often accused of being socialism. Wow wild. Texas already becoming what it left. How sad. 

 

If you're talking about each home having its own chicken, how would that work? Would they have to buy it from a chicken farmer? What if the chicken farms don't want to play ball? They force them? Sounds very authoritarian to me, bud.

Bro you're thinking way more deeply about this than any secessionist ever has.  

Who needs to think about things like economics, or how to feed your population?  Sounds like some elitist ivory tower woke shit to me.  

[André Toulon]

Lol

[Seight]

11 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

Same value as the Confederate dollar too.

[matrixman124]

On 2/24/2023 at 11:12 AM, Winter_Rain said:

Bro you're thinking way more deeply about this than any secessionist ever has.  

Who needs to think about things like economics, or how to feed your population?  Sounds like some elitist ivory tower woke shit to me.  

Chicken woke, you bet.

[1pooh4u]

MTG complains about the lack of civility claiming a mother and son duo attacked her in a restaurant. 
 

This is the same woman who stalked David Hogg, when he was still a teen, right after he survived a mass shooting, to heckle him with a gun visibly on her hip. The same woman who heckled the President during the SotU. 
 

no peace for her

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna72626