Jman Posted Friday at 11:57 PM Share Posted Friday at 11:57 PM 46 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: lol a little late for that search. Trump will probably not do this. Dude had no clue what a tariff is cuz he never read about the American revolution Last time he proposed tariffs in 2019, big tech companies talked him off the ledge. I can only hope for a repeat. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:01 AM 4 minutes ago, Insipid said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2024/11/08/trumps-election-has-women-swearing-off-sex-inside-the-4b-movement/76131121007/ So it begins. Population decline is coming. It is the single greatest issue that will define the 21st century. Just coming in here to post this - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/07/4b-movement-trump-women?ICID=ref_fark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted Saturday at 12:30 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:30 AM Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted Saturday at 12:42 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:42 AM 11 minutes ago, Gemini said: Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. THEY FUCKING BROUGHT IN DICK CHENEY 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted Saturday at 12:47 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:47 AM 3 hours ago, PenguinBoss said: Sorta a little bit falls back on what I was expecting to see once Biden was elected. Somebody needs to step tf up. A nobody is going to struggle to get attention. Anyone with any sort of bad rap attached to them is almost certainly going to fail. Somebody needs to be putting themselves in front of cameras and into news to get name recognition started, get people aware of doing good (or at least bare minimum), so when nomination time comes, we're not all looking around asking "Who else is there?" or "Who even are you?" It sucks, and I really hate that it's turning out that way, it feels like taking "politician" a step behind a career (which I already hated) and turning it into a whole identity. But, it's been pretty clear for a while that a broad swathe of voters do not vote on policy, and clearly aren't aware of that things proposed in their own best interest. They're just voting on brand recognition. And Republicans have a huge lead on that front. Any chump on the street can likely name at least half a dozen potential future candidates on the right, but, if you ask them who on the left seems poised to throw their hat in the ring? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted Saturday at 12:50 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:50 AM 2 minutes ago, rpgamer said: Sorta a little bit falls back on what I was expecting to see once Biden was elected. Somebody needs to step tf up. A nobody is going to struggle to get attention. Anyone with any sort of bad rap attached to them is almost certainly going to fail. Somebody needs to be putting themselves in front of cameras and into news to get name recognition started, get people aware of doing good (or at least bare minimum), so when nomination time comes, we're not all looking around asking "Who else is there?" or "Who even are you?" It sucks, and I really hate that it's turning out that way, it feels like taking "politician" a step behind a career (which I already hated) and turning it into a whole identity. But, it's been pretty clear for a while that a broad swathe of voters do not vote on policy, and clearly aren't aware of that things proposed in their own best interest. They're just voting on brand recognition. And Republicans have a huge lead on that front. Any chump on the street can likely name at least half a dozen potential future candidates on the right, but, if you ask them who on the left seems poised to throw their hat in the ring? The Democrats need a media apparatus that can clearly explain their policies to a population that doesn't know what a tariff is. It's that fucking simple. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted Saturday at 12:52 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:52 AM That one was for OP. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted Saturday at 01:11 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:11 AM 40 minutes ago, Gemini said: Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. Why are you like this? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted Saturday at 01:15 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:15 AM 41 minutes ago, Gemini said: Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted Saturday at 01:23 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:23 AM 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:26 AM 14 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Why are you like this? A Dreamworks animated feature . . . um, Kung Fu Panda. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM 1 hour ago, _lost_username_ said: It sounds like common sense on its face but remember, these tests were used during Jim Crow to … you know. A test like that can easily be abused. Like asking a question like “who’s your favorite president” and “do you believe in God?” Trust me, I know, but like...let me dream. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_lost_username_ Posted Saturday at 01:55 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:55 AM 55 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: The Democrats need a media apparatus that can clearly explain their policies to a population that doesn't know what a tariff is. It's that fucking simple. What do not have? There’s a TV network (MSNBC), several print publications, influencers on social media and thousands of YouTube channels. They seem to have everything Republicans have except for the number of eyeballs. i don’t think the media apparatus is the problem. The problem may be their delivery or people don’t like their messengers. Maybe Democratic voters simply don’t consume media like Republicans do. Maybe they just need to go into the spaces that Republican eyeballs are at and fight the lions in their den? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted Saturday at 01:58 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:58 AM 2 minutes ago, _lost_username_ said: What do not have? There’s a TV network (MSNBC), several print publications, influencers on social media and thousands of YouTube channels. They seem to have everything Republicans have except for the number of eyeballs. i don’t think the media apparatus is the problem. The problem may be their delivery or people don’t like their messengers. Maybe Democratic voters simply don’t consume media like Republicans do. Maybe they just need to go into the spaces that Republican eyeballs are at and fight the lions in their den? Because a lot of them push Republican propaganda and misinformation with bare minimum challenging. And they don't explain the policies well. They need younger people to generate the viral energy of Kamala is brat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted Saturday at 02:09 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:09 AM Republicans emboldened by Trump's win are now sending racist text messages. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-justice-department-investigating-racist-mass-texts-election-115660990 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted Saturday at 02:10 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:10 AM 8 minutes ago, _lost_username_ said: What do not have? There’s a TV network (MSNBC), several print publications, influencers on social media and thousands of YouTube channels. They seem to have everything Republicans have except for the number of eyeballs. i don’t think the media apparatus is the problem. The problem may be their delivery or people don’t like their messengers. Maybe Democratic voters simply don’t consume media like Republicans do. Maybe they just need to go into the spaces that Republican eyeballs are at and fight the lions in their den? Money. The 3 biggest faux-left (MSN. CNN, NBC) networks, when combined, get markedly less viewership than Fox News, or at least have historically but I'm not sure post-Carlson. Youtubers don't typically buy ads on Youtube to promote themselves. Conservative pundits back by billionaires do. Facebook fact checkers during 2020 were funded by right wing think tanks. Twitter is owned by Elon Musk. That's what they have that the left doesn't. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_lost_username_ Posted Saturday at 02:14 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:14 AM 2 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Because a lot of them push Republican propaganda and misinformation with bare minimum challenging. And they don't explain the policies well. They need younger people to generate the viral energy of Kamala is brat It didn’t work. The media made a big deal of it but “brat” was more like “wat?” for the majority of people that voted. I think it got her the attention of TikTokers but it didn’t get her votes. TikTok might be knocked out of its current spot as king of social media in four years anyway. I think Trump got one thing right. Stick with a single line of messaging, take it everywhere and let your followers do the work. Harris’s messaging was all over the place and I think that might’ve been something that hurt her since people wound up knowing little pieces of her plans. Every time Trump did said something outrageous, Democrats would drop their messaging and go after it. That wasted a lot of time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_lost_username_ Posted Saturday at 02:28 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:28 AM 14 minutes ago, naraku360 said: Money. The 3 biggest faux-left (MSN. CNN, NBC) networks, when combined, get markedly less viewership than Fox News, or at least have historically but I'm not sure post-Carlson. Youtubers don't typically buy ads on Youtube to promote themselves. Conservative pundits back by billionaires do. Facebook fact checkers during 2020 were funded by right wing think tanks. Twitter is owned by Elon Musk. That's what they have that the left doesn't. Democrats are still in all those spaces. Fact checkers, ads, Musk … whatever, they don’t really matter. You don’t have any trouble finding Democrat material on any social media. MSNBC works directly with the Democratic Party so, they do have a version of Fox. Just not the viewers. So, Democrats and Republicans have access to the same spaces. One just isn’t as successful as the other. Doesn’t matter if you level the playing field more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted Saturday at 02:32 AM Share Posted Saturday at 02:32 AM 2 minutes ago, _lost_username_ said: Democrats are still in all those spaces. Fact checkers, ads, Musk … whatever, they don’t really matter. You don’t have any trouble finding Democrat material on any social media. MSNBC works directly with the Democratic Party so, they do have a version of Fox. Just not the viewers. So, Democrats and Republicans have access to the same spaces. One just isn’t as successful as the other. Doesn’t matter if you level the playing field more. You missed the most important part: money. The left is virtually always less wealthy than the right. By a large margin. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted Saturday at 03:00 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:00 AM 51 minutes ago, Sieg67 said: Republicans emboldened by Trump's win are now sending racist text messages. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-justice-department-investigating-racist-mass-texts-election-115660990 And so it begins… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted Saturday at 03:15 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:15 AM 1 hour ago, Sieg67 said: Republicans emboldened by Trump's win are now sending racist text messages. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-justice-department-investigating-racist-mass-texts-election-115660990 There’s a suspicion this was a Russian actor designed to sow more racial tension. No evidence either way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted Saturday at 03:19 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:19 AM 2 minutes ago, Jman said: There’s a suspicion this was a Russian actor designed to sow more racial tension. No evidence either way. I heard it was China. Oh, how fun. Cowardly attacks and a blame game 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted Saturday at 03:36 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:36 AM 15 minutes ago, Insipid said: I heard it was China. Oh, how fun. Cowardly attacks and a blame game 🙄 I heard it was Red Herring. This one might be too obscure. 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted Saturday at 03:40 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:40 AM 3 hours ago, Gemini said: Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. Go fuck yourself you dumb ugly mother fucker. Crawl back into your hole and eat a dick. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted Saturday at 03:41 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:41 AM 2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: Why are you like this? Because he is a dumb mother fucker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted Saturday at 03:52 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:52 AM 23 minutes ago, Jman said: There’s a suspicion this was a Russian actor designed to sow more racial tension. No evidence either way. The Louisiana AG's cyber unit said they've traced them back to a VPN in Poland, but haven't found the original source. Could be a coincidence, but seems pretty fishy to me that it's being routed through a country that Putin and some of his cronies have basically outright threatened. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-ally-warns-enemy-poland-you-risk-losing-your-statehood-2023-11-02/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ninja_Jesus- Posted Saturday at 04:12 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:12 AM 3 hours ago, Gemini said: Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. something something shifting the overton window 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted Saturday at 04:19 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:19 AM 6 minutes ago, -Ninja_Jesus- said: something something shifting the overton window The Overton window is so fucked that the Center means neocons now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ninja_Jesus- Posted Saturday at 04:22 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:22 AM 1 minute ago, matrixman124 said: The Overton window is so fucked that the Center means neocons now. We need another total party flip. Like when a pillow is too hot or too cold. If the former Democrat party could do it, so can the modern one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted Saturday at 04:40 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:40 AM https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nevada-2024-senate-rosen-brown/ Another D senator win in a state that went for Trump. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted Saturday at 04:54 AM Share Posted Saturday at 04:54 AM Lmfao, not THIS cowardly sack of ball sweat. The guy who will ragequit after a gentle ribbing. There's no way this timid bilgerat found the nuts to come out of hiding. Well, guess he found another group of people to latch on to that'll try to politely ignore him until he just becomes too annoying to tolerate. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted Saturday at 05:37 AM Share Posted Saturday at 05:37 AM (edited) I just noticed Trump got 74.2 million votes in 2024, and the same number in 2020. It's the same huge group of evil idiots. So don't overanalyze it. Edited Saturday at 05:39 AM by Belize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted Saturday at 05:53 AM Share Posted Saturday at 05:53 AM Don't be afraid to stand up to that same group of 74 million and tell them to fuck off. It's nonsense trying to make concessions to them. Instead, try talking to the millions of 2020 Democratic voters who didn't show up in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted Saturday at 06:26 AM Share Posted Saturday at 06:26 AM “Eating the dogs eating the cats” still can’t believe that won 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted Saturday at 07:49 AM Share Posted Saturday at 07:49 AM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted Saturday at 09:33 AM Share Posted Saturday at 09:33 AM Media is acting like the was just a typical eduction somebody won somebody lost we move on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted Saturday at 12:17 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:17 PM 2 hours ago, CountFrylock said: Media is acting like the was just a typical eduction somebody won somebody lost we move on Well yeah, they can't make money off this if the people running things won't talk to them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountFrylock Posted Saturday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:01 PM 43 minutes ago, Seight said: Well yeah, they can't make money off this if the people running things won't talk to them. The people running things would have them imprisoned or shot. That’s worse than not talking to you We can’t let people forget trump wants to arrest anyone who doesn’t worship him 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted Saturday at 02:16 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:16 PM 8 hours ago, Belize said: I just noticed Trump got 74.2 million votes in 2024, and the same number in 2020. It's the same huge group of evil idiots. So don't overanalyze it. It wasn’t the same people though and the democrats lost demographics they’re never getting them back. It might be democrats that never win another election, especially if they’re thinking like you are. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted Saturday at 03:04 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:04 PM 44 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: It wasn’t the same people though and the democrats lost demographics they’re never getting them back. It might be democrats that never win another election, especially if they’re thinking like you are. Exactly this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted Saturday at 03:33 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:33 PM 15 hours ago, Gemini said: Dear assfaces on the left, especially those in the Democrat Party, Your gaslighting and condescending tone did this. Maybe quit calling everybody who disagrees with you on policy Hitler and actually move back toward the center? Signed, Trump 2024 Voters, 74 million strong...and counting. Finally brave enough, huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted Saturday at 03:54 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:54 PM 10 hours ago, Belize said: I just noticed Trump got 74.2 million votes in 2024, and the same number in 2020. It's the same huge group of evil idiots. So don't overanalyze it. Did I stutter? 20 hours ago, naraku360 said: Shut up, dude. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted Saturday at 04:05 PM Share Posted Saturday at 04:05 PM 11 hours ago, André Toulon said: Lmfao, not THIS cowardly sack of ball sweat. The guy who will ragequit after a gentle ribbing. There's no way this timid bilgerat found the nuts to come out of hiding. Well, guess he found another group of people to latch on to that'll try to politely ignore him until he just becomes too annoying to tolerate. He’ll be back next week and out of all the replies he gets he will only reply to me because for some reason he thinks I’m the easy target, or he’ll see this reply and do the exact opposite so that he looks like a big boy. Maybe I’ll ask to hide this post and reveal it later after he returns 😆 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted Saturday at 05:37 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:37 PM 3 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: It wasn’t the same people though and the democrats lost demographics they’re never getting them back. It might be democrats that never win another election, especially if they’re thinking like you are. Seems like you're jumping to conclusions about the data. I would actually have to fact check the "democrats lost demographics" claims that are going around in the media. It seems like the kind of thing everyone would get wrong only for FactCheck.org to write a little read post refuting it. Even exit polls that the news media use are not completely reliable. I only ever use them with that huge caveat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted Saturday at 05:39 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:39 PM 22 hours ago, naraku360 said: Shut up, dude. Um, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted Saturday at 05:40 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:40 PM https://jacobin.com/2024/11/painters-union-democrats-dealignment-trump/ Union leaders discuss failures in messaging. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:41 PM 3 minutes ago, Belize said: Seems like you're jumping to conclusions about the data. I would actually have to fact check the "democrats lost demographics" claims that are going around in the media. It seems like the kind of thing everyone would get wrong only for FactCheck.org to write a little read post refuting it. Even exit polls that the news media use are not completely reliable. I only ever use them with that huge caveat. Whatever helps you cope, I guess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted Saturday at 05:44 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:44 PM 2 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Whatever helps you cope, I guess Skepticism, you mean? Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted Saturday at 05:47 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:47 PM Democrats lost because we couldn’t get Nabs to join Gemini’s Rocket league. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted Saturday at 05:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 05:53 PM 7 minutes ago, Belize said: Skepticism, you mean? Sure. You didn’t have this same skepticism about pre-election day polls showing Kamala ahead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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