Nablonsky Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, naraku360 said: made an entire point and you sucked all nuance out of it. I wasn't even implying horseshoe theory is just about people who criticize Democrats. That's ridiculous. That's literally the only time It's ever employed though. Everybody knows Nazis don't become leftists, nobody makes that assertion, it's always used as a cudgel against leftists who go too far in their criticism of Democrats and the "left" establishment who are berated with the ridiculous "horseshoe theory" line. Just like it was in that post you responded to. See how this works? Edited June 16, 2022 by Nablonsky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nablonsky said: That's literally the only time It's ever employed though. Everybody knows Nazis don't become leftists, nobody makes that assertion, it's always used as a cudgel against leftists who go too far in their criticism of Democrats and the "left" establishment who are berated with the ridiculous "horseshoe theory" line. Just like it was in that post you responded to. See how this works? My point was that it's easier to pull someone from the far left into the far right because it's easier to make left ideals palettable on a surface level. By no means does that infer the act of being strung along by pseudo-leftists into believing things antithetical to leftism as a thing that's not real. I'm saying it isn't too far left that causes people to fall into conservatism. I'm saying right wingers injecting themselves into leftist circles and spreading misinformation is a real thing that does lead into people falling into right wing views under a left wing guise. Edited June 16, 2022 by naraku360 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nablonsky Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, naraku360 said: My point was that it's easier to pull someone from the far left into the far right because it's easier to make left ideals palettable on a surface level. By no means does that infer the act of being strung along by pseudo-leftists into believing things antithetical to leftism as a thing that's not real. I'm saying it isn't too far left that causes people to fall into conservatism. I'm saying right wingers injecting themselves into leftist circles and spreading misinformation is a real thing. Ok but that isn't horseshoe theory you're just talking about something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Nablonsky said: Ok but that isn't horseshoe theory you're just talking about something else. Yes, I know. I'm talking about what gets attributed as horseshoe theory but is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nablonsky Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, André Toulon said: So he can fuck off until he can post in DF.... I'm not giving him shit else here. Give me 5 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, naraku360 said: I don't think horseshoe theory is real. How often do you see someone become so right-wing they end up a leftist? Horseshoe theory would, by mere principle, need to have the reverse. We don't get that. It's easier to latch onto basic leftist ideas because they are objectively better both in results and on the face of it. Conservatism festers hostility and preys on vulnerablity to do it. That's what draws people to the right off of faux-left propagandists but not the reverse. The left is simply a less abusive society, and that inherently means it's more passive. It's much harder to pull someone left from the far right than the reverse since the conservative ideology is in and of itself deeply exploitative. You're right. Sorry... I should have just said Nabs is actually a Jingai alt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Nablonsky said: Give me 5 minutes It takes you that long to vomit out a shit post? .... Oh c'mon. I didn't mean you should actually take longer than 5 minutes to shit post. Edited June 16, 2022 by scoobdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Fucking Abbott **Mic Drop** Edited June 17, 2022 by PhilosipherStoned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Nablonsky said: Give me 5 minutes Quote 9 hours ago HOLY SHIT, IT'S ONLY BEEN HOW LONG?!? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Anyway.. Abbotts like I little Trump demigod in so many ways...This just sounds so optimistic, https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/03/02/texas-primary-election-results-2022-beto-orourke-wins-nomination-governor/6978495001/ but JUST IN CASE... Especially since I've literally canvassed for him and other dems through his networks/charities someone remind me to vote for him when the time comes if you will, or don't. I try to vote even when I don't like either of the candidates... Beto's been at it for a fucking long time at least calling out the Texas GOP for the same ignorant GOP shit everyone rants about here so I mean.. I gotta do my part I guess. When he dropped out of the presedential race he immediately started canvassing for dem SCOTUS reps when he had nothing else going on...Among a lot of other things that I can list. Edited June 17, 2022 by PhilosipherStoned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Pretty sure all GOP eyes are on him after the whole "This shit is your fault." remark he made while Abbott and the gop folks were offerring 'thoughts and prayers' to survivors of the Uvalde shooting.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Ima put this here - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/06/20/gop-senate-candidate-releases-rino-hunting-ad-aimed-at-fellow-republicans.html but I suppose it could go in the mass shooting thread too… just a bit of foreshadowing I guess 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Sawdamizer said: Ima put this here - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/06/20/gop-senate-candidate-releases-rino-hunting-ad-aimed-at-fellow-republicans.html but I suppose it could go in the mass shooting thread too… just a bit of foreshadowing I guess It's always a fun time when the Republicans decide to cannibalize themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 7:29 PM, PhilosipherStoned said: Anyway.. Abbotts like I little Trump demigod in so many ways...This just sounds so optimistic, https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/politics/elections/2022/03/02/texas-primary-election-results-2022-beto-orourke-wins-nomination-governor/6978495001/ but JUST IN CASE... Especially since I've literally canvassed for him and other dems through his networks/charities someone remind me to vote for him when the time comes if you will, or don't. I try to vote even when I don't like either of the candidates... Beto's been at it for a fucking long time at least calling out the Texas GOP for the same ignorant GOP shit everyone rants about here so I mean.. I gotta do my part I guess. When he dropped out of the presedential race he immediately started canvassing for dem SCOTUS reps when he had nothing else going on...Among a lot of other things that I can list. Spoiler alert: Texas isnt turning Blue. The GOP is going to win in Texas in a cakewalk. The best chance that Dems had to turn it Blue was when Beto ran against Cruz. Cruz is another uniquely unpopular person, and he still won. This year is going to be a really good year for the GOP, and they are going to cruise through their elections in Texas this year. All Texas is is a resource suck for Dems. The grassroots people throw money at the races there thinking it will make a difference but it wont. And then those resources are gone from races where Democrats need them and have an actual chance at winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Spoiler alert: Texas isnt turning Blue. The GOP is going to win in Texas in a cakewalk. The best chance that Dems had to turn it Blue was when Beto ran against Cruz. Cruz is another uniquely unpopular person, and he still won. This year is going to be a really good year for the GOP, and they are going to cruise through their elections in Texas this year. All Texas is is a resource suck for Dems. The grassroots people throw money at the races there thinking it will make a difference but it wont. And then those resources are gone from races where Democrats need them and have an actual chance at winning. That’s a long winded way of saying how fucking ignorant the people of TX are if they can’t see what is happening to this country because of the jackwagons in their party supporting this stupidity. I honestly can’t wait for the baby boomer generation to die the fuck off and we can finally start moving forward with some real conversations. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Spoiler alert: Texas isnt turning Blue. Also a spoiler alert: Texas Republicans still believe the Big Lie. The reality is that no matter what Republicans end up doing, they've hamstrung themselves with the 2020 election lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nablonsky Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Dem voters are like "hmmm, interesting you spend so much time criticizing the police who failed to prevent the Uvalde massacre but comparatively little condemning the mass murderer, wonder why that is. Do you just love mass shootings or something...? I'm not saying the police are perfect, I myself wish they would do better, but it's pretty sus how much you're focusing on their failure to ever effectively do anything to protect us from the spree shooters of yesterday, today, and tomorrow when they're all we have standing between us and total oblivion! 'Defund the police...?' Sounds like you want the spree shooters to win!!! BACK THE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO!" Edited June 21, 2022 by Nablonsky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Also a spoiler alert: Texas Republicans still believe the Big Lie. The reality is that no matter what Republicans end up doing, they've hamstrung themselves with the 2020 election lies. And? That doesnt matter in Texas. As dumb and as stupid as the big lie is, Democratic policies are seen as worse. So until either something changes with the big lie, or Democrats change their policy stances, Texas is firmly Red. Thats not even taking into account the very robust GOP atmosphere this year thanks to mid-term trends as well as a deeply unpopular Democratic President. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nablonsky Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Master-Debater131 said: And? That doesnt matter in Texas Exactly right. If they hold on to power in TX, if they strengthen their hold on power, then they aren't "hamstrung" by anything. It doesn't matter how much Democrats cry about how bad the Republicans are, that has never mattered or affected anything. It will never win the Dems elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Democrat policies will never win the Dems elections. Cheating on the other hand.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 It goes further than that. Hispanics are moving toward the GOP at a pretty remarkable pace. The Rio Grande Valley has been a Democratic stronghold in Texas for a long time, and it just elected a GOP woman in a special election. All signs point to those districts probably flipping to the GOP this November as well. The few Democrats in Texas have been screaming to the party to stop talking about more fringe issues and address the core issues in the area only to be ignored or told to shut up. Illegal Immigration is a massive issue in Texas, and its playing right into the GOPs hand. As much as we are seeing the GOP partake in a circular firing squad in a lot of places, the Democrats are doing their best to keep up. The difference is that the GOP is being covered by a national atmosphere that greatly benefits their chances this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Master-Debater131 said: And? That doesnt matter in Texas. As dumb and as stupid as the big lie is, Democratic policies are seen as worse. So until either something changes with the big lie, or Democrats change their policy stances, Texas is firmly Red. Thats not even taking into account the very robust GOP atmosphere this year thanks to mid-term trends as well as a deeply unpopular Democratic President. Make no mistake, polarization of politics is to the point where it doesn't matter either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Ginguy said: Cheating on the other hand.... Is the republican way. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Ginguy said: Democrat policies will never win the Dems elections. Cheating on the other hand.... What exactly are Republican policies though? What do they do other than scapegoat, eat mayonnaise flavored chips, and lie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Dig their heels in and say "fuck the future, everything was already perfect 50 years ago." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: What exactly are Republican policies though? What do they do other than scapegoat, eat mayonnaise flavored chips, and lie? "Act like the people like everything we do when half of it is SPECIFICALLY the opposite of what they actually wanted." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 If you want to lose brain cells, here's 33 pages of Texas being stupid - https://texasgop.org/platform/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, katt_goddess said: If you want to lose brain cells, here's 33 pages of Texas being stupid - https://texasgop.org/platform/ Fuck them completely without grease. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: What exactly are Republican policies though? What do they do other than scapegoat, eat mayonnaise flavored chips, and lie? Legalizing/protecting child marriage, end all welfare for the poors, light the planet on fire, tax cuts for the right, drone strike brown babies overseas, ban porn and all forms of non-fornication related sex with the female orgasm onviously being death row, white Jesus, saying the n-word like a true 'Murican, arm teachers with bazookas, small government military state, burn the books, slavery didn't happen and if it did its not our fault also the Irish, don't ban me on Twitter for any reason ever, make throwing teh gays off roofs legal, and ban Mexicans and Muslims. What a lovely bunch. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 15 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: What exactly are Republican policies though? What do they do other than scapegoat, eat mayonnaise flavored chips, and lie? Intentionally fuck everything up as much as possible so they can blame it on the democrats. Rinse, repeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 ' I havent seen all of the details of the bill, but it doesnt look too bad. Theres language in there for expanded background checks, funding for Red Flag laws, and funding for mental health. It sounds like there are 14 GOP Senators who will vote for this. So it should pass the Senate. The question is will it pass the House. Theres very little, if any, GOP support for this bill in the House and Democrats hold a small majority. The reaction from the GOP base online has been pretty irate. Lots of people calling the GOP sellouts and calling for all 14 Senators to be primaried, so I would say you see very few, if any, GOP votes in the House. The reaction from Progressives when this deal was announced was just as bad. If they hold their votes and demand more from the bill that will doom it in the Senate. Theres zero chance that things like a gun ban or confiscation pass, and those are central pieces of what the progressives in the House want. Theres a long way to go on this still, and plenty of opportunities for this bill to collapse. But as it stands it looks like Congress is poised to pass the most extensive gun law in 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 18 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: What exactly are Republican policies though? What do they do other than scapegoat, eat mayonnaise flavored chips, and lie? Right now, nothing. Literally Nothing. McConnell specifically said that the GOP would not release a platform for this years elections so that Democrats dont have policies to attack. Between the Cult of MAGA and the not-Democrat Republicans the GOP is pretty devoid of policy right now. Plenty of talking points, no real policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Fucking lizard queen IMG_9141.MOV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 They're all standing like they've got a foot-long dildo shoved up their asses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Top Gun said: They're all standing like they've got a foot-long dildo shoved up their asses. "We have no knowledge of any foot long dildo in any asses. But if one were to be located, rest assured it was put there by the Democrats at no fault of our own." Edited June 23, 2022 by naraku360 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, Top Gun said: They're all standing like they've got a foot-long dildo shoved up their asses. A dildo is just about all MTG has these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, scoobdog said: A dildo is just about all MTG has these days. Thats not quite true. She still has her competition with Bobo the Clown for who can say the dumbest thing each week. She has the lead so far this week, but theres still time for Bobo to take the lead! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Looks like we are about to have the most substantive gun control measures in 30 years be signed by Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 It's substantive, but not nearly enough. I guess you take whatever little victories you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Realistically this is all they were ever going to get. There was never any chance of gun bans or confiscation. There just arent the votes for that. Expanded background checks, red flag laws, and mental health are all very popular positions and pretty easy to legislate. This was a lay up that Congress, shockingly, didnt screw up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Realistically this is all they were ever going to get. There was never any chance of gun bans or confiscation. There just arent the votes for that. Expanded background checks, red flag laws, and mental health are all very popular positions and pretty easy to legislate. This was a lay up that Congress, shockingly, didnt screw up. Not for trying. Anyway, we will take what we can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) On 6/21/2022 at 8:51 AM, Master-Debater131 said: Spoiler alert: Texas isnt turning Blue. The GOP is going to win in Texas in a cakewalk. The best chance that Dems had to turn it Blue was when Beto ran against Cruz. Cruz is another uniquely unpopular person, and he still won. This year is going to be a really good year for the GOP, and they are going to cruise through their elections in Texas this year. All Texas is is a resource suck for Dems. The grassroots people throw money at the races there thinking it will make a difference but it wont. And then those resources are gone from races where Democrats need them and have an actual chance at winning. I don't need a spoiler alert I know as much. I'm just sick of Abotts shit and at least Beto recognizes not being a dem pushover/ dropout and rustling as many GOP jimmies as possible is the best strategy. Also a lot of Beto's resources come from celebrities, and local supporter donations I can't say for sure he's not eating a bunch of dnc resources, but he has one of the biggest online systems I've ever seen with his base that does a great deal of campaign work for him on top of their own donations. I myself have participated. Edited June 25, 2022 by PhilosipherStoned Sorry for the late ass reply, but I've been busy as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammenon Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 8:58 AM, Doom Metal Alchemist said: Intentionally fuck everything up as much as possible so they can blame it on the democrats. Rinse, repeat. What could they fuck up to place blame on the Dems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Gammenon said: What could they fuck up to place blame on the Dems? You really just have to watch congress in actions to see the shit. McConnel: The entire situation that brought us all together today was caused by a republican, but I am the senate, and I don't believe that shit. 225 pages of material evidence and a leaked video of the accused person with their pants down later... Republican rep: This is the biggest witch hunt and social media disgrace orchestrated by the dnc to date. Let's not forget who the god fearing republicans fighting to keep our politics pure are ladies and gentlemen. DEMS: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Holy shit, she is fucking insane. The bit about the election is totally unhinged. This isnt healthy on so many levels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 6/25/2022 at 1:33 PM, Gammenon said: What could they fuck up to place blame on the Dems? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: Holy shit, she is fucking insane. The bit about the election is totally unhinged. This isnt healthy on so many levels. I think this gargoyle should have to do these types of interviews without using a filter. I kept waiting for the filter to bork and suddenly scared kitten face. Further, how is a question about hanging out with drag queens for 20 years [ with photo proof of her hanging out with drag queens ] such a hard question that all she can do is flail and yelp about election conspiracies that even the diehards around her are starting to call it quits on? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 So, apparently over 1 million+ voters have walked away from the Dems in this primary season. In other news, Dems hold a +7 in the generic ballot according to Marxist polling. https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-national-poll-the-overturning-of-roe-v-wade-june-2022/ Democrats (48%) currently have the advantage over the Republicans (41%) among registered voters in the congressional generic ballot question. Their advantage has slightly widened from five points (47% for the Democratic candidate and 42% for the Republican candidate) in May after the leaked draft of the Roe v. Wade decision. A million+ people walking away and somehow the Dems are still listed by Marxist as being +7.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 You don't know what Marxist means jingo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Hey @Ginguy... Would you let the Donald throw a plate with his ketchup soaked shoe leather at your head? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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