McCarthy Speaker & GOP House Majority Drama

[SwimOdin]

Totally normal behavior from a totally normal dude.

[naraku360]

14 hours ago, Raptorpat said:

I went back to quote directly from the article but I got paywalled on the second pass.

https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1721274337188040981

Very weird way to get porn recommendations....

[naraku360]

14 hours ago, Raptorpat said:

I went back to quote directly from the article but I got paywalled on the second pass.

https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1721274337188040981

I went to the General folder right after seeing this and saw "What song is stuck in your head?" or whatever that thread's called....

All of a sudden it's the Pornhub indro stinger.

[katt_goddess]

 

[Icarus27k]

McCarthy has been doing media interviews because he's really chatty now. One interview in particular is with CNN. It's mostly about him being angry at the Republicans who ousted him. But then he says this:

 

 

Trumpism is the reason McCarthy's career is over. We don't appreciate how self-destructive Trumpism is. 

 

When you ally yourself with a face-ripping gorilla, don't be surprised we you get your face ripped off. 

[scoobdog]

The question is:  why isn't he worried about Trump's criminal charges?  Is it because he thinks nothing will come of them; is it because he thinks voters won't care; or, is it a mixture of both?

We continually dodge around it with the general understanding that Trump voters are vocal minority may up of racists and idiots who are motivated and in the right constituencies to power his poll strength.  But, why is he so special?

[Raptorpat]

11 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

The question is:  why isn't he worried about Trump's criminal charges?  Is it because he thinks nothing will come of them; is it because he thinks voters won't care; or, is it a mixture of both?

Quote

Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel said the committee would support former President Trump as the 2024 GOP presidential nominee if voters were to choose him, even if he were convicted of a crime.

What she's saying: "Whoever the voters choose is the appropriate nominee," McDaniel said on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday when asked if Trump would qualify as one if he were convicted.

• "I know this is newsworthy, but as party chair, I'm going to support who the voters choose and yes, if they choose Donald Trump," McDaniel said.
• "The voters are looking at this, and they think there's a two-tiered system of justice. They don't believe a lot of the things that are coming out of this, and they're making these decisions and you're seeing that reflected in the polls," McDaniel said.

Zoom out: Trump is polling far ahead of any of his GOP competitors and has even gotten a little boost following indictments in four separate jurisdictions.

• A large share of Republican voters believe Trump's legal woes are "politically motivated," according to a CBS News/YouGov poll.
• Recent polling from The New York Times and Siena College revealed Trump's dominance not only among the GOP, but within key 2024 swing states.
• The poll had Trump beating Biden in five of the six swing states Biden won in 2020.

https://www.axios.com/2023/11/12/trump-rnc-gop-presidential-nominee

[scoobdog]

That's assuming voters will support him which is reasonable based entirely on polling and historical precedence, but it doesn't explain why they will support him.

[Raptorpat]

Specifically limiting "voters" to "Republican voters" - it's because they don't give a shit and think it's all purely a series of political hitjobs.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, Raptorpat said:

Specifically limiting "voters" to "Republican voters" - it's because they don't give a shit and think it's all purely a series of political hitjobs.

That's one of the many unanswered questions I have - how can so many people subscribe to conspiracy theories?  It makes a lot more sense in the context that right wing media has something like 30 years to prey on people with those same latent racist and bigoted tendencies to explicit indoctrination through partisan heresay, conjecture, and speculative fantasy.  It's a potent and effective combination.  Nonetheless, it still requires a broken intellectual faculty to spurn the overwhelming truth of a situation for improbable conspiracies.  For it to happen on such a large scale is both fascinating and frightening.  We're effectively acknowledging that a rather large segment of our population is intellectually and emotionally compromised.

[Raptorpat]

Maybe it's us who are intellectually and emotionally compromised!

[katt_goddess]

1 hour ago, Raptorpat said:

Maybe it's us who are intellectually and emotionally compromised!

Compromised nothing. I embrace my watching of Chinese cartoons, being weird and causing people to run if they see me smile. 

[scoobdog]

2 hours ago, Raptorpat said:

Maybe it's us who are intellectually and emotionally compromised!

I think not.

[discolé monade]

LAUGH ON LOUDLY

[katt_goddess]

McCarthy - compromises with Dems to get something done.

magats - boot his ass! traitor to the great orange cause!

Johnson - compromises with Dems to get something done.

magats - he's new! we'll let him run around some more! there's bound to be something we can fuck up later to make up for this!

[scoobdog]

18 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

magats - he's new! we'll let him run around some more! there's bound to be something we can fuck up later to make up for this!

Doesn't seem to be the case.  They've already rebelled.

[katt_goddess]

3 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Doesn't seem to be the case.  They've already rebelled.

Didn't say they'd last long, just that they'd find something else to f up to make up for this one.  

[scoobdog]

6 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

Didn't say they'd last long, just that they'd find something else to f up to make up for this one.  

I'm appreciative of the fact that the detestable right is chewing its own up and spitting them out, but at this point, even they know the cost of fucking around is too severe to do it.

[discolé monade]

20 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

I'm appreciative of the fact that the detestable right is chewing its own up and spitting them out, but at this point, even they know the cost of fucking around is too severe to do it.

[Seight]

3 hours ago, scoobdog said:

I'm appreciative of the fact that the detestable right is chewing its own up and spitting them out, but at this point, even they know the cost of fucking around is too severe to do it.

"What part of no losses ever, even perceived losses, don't you understand?"

[katt_goddess]

3 hours ago, scoobdog said:

I'm appreciative of the fact that the detestable right is chewing its own up and spitting them out, but at this point, even they know the cost of fucking around is too severe to do it.

If they were capable of learning from their mistakes, they wouldn't keep doing them until the mistakes turn into felonies. 

They would have drummed out the dumb in the party the second the dumb started peeing on the walls and scooting their ass across the carpet even if it meant being the minority again because they'd be able to market that willingness to no longer tolerate extremist behaviors to the voters. 

[discolé monade]

 

 

Ever the optimist, Rep. Derek Kilmer, D-Wash., isn't running for re-election but isn’t as disenchanted with Capitol Hill, despite his weekly cross-country flights. He believes he made a difference during his decade in Congress, particularly as chairman of the House Modernization or “Fix Congress Committee,” which pushed to improve issues such as House technology and staff diversity and retention.

[Raptorpat]

Kevin McCarthy is leaving congress by the end of the year.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2023-12-06/kevin-mccarthy-congress-retirement-not-seek-reelection-california

 

For those keeping track, the GOP had a four seats more than a bare majority. Knocked down to three because Santos was kicked (in a seat that has better odds than not of flipping in February). This would knock them down to two seats to spare while the seat is vacant. 

[Master-Debater131]

GOP going to lose the House before theres even an election

[Icarus27k]

Think of how chaotic and undisciplined the GOP is. The past three GOP House Speakers have left politics humiliated, probably wondering if the career choice was worth it. 

 

Contrast with the Democrats, whose House and Senate leaders served for many years and are well liked (Pelosi, Reid, Schumer and now Jeffries). 

[SwimOdin]

It’s as if giving the keys to a political party to a narcissistic game show host was a bad idea.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, Icarus27k said:

Think of how chaotic and undisciplined the GOP is. The past three GOP House Speakers have left politics humiliated, probably wondering if the career choice was worth it. 

 

Contrast with the Democrats, whose House and Senate leaders served for many years and are well liked (Pelosi, Reid, Schumer and now Jeffries). 

Don't know about the well liked thing, but Pelosi has endured hundreds of time the slander of any other politician in modern history and still did a good enough job to be elected to the speakership twice.

[Mix]

 

[katt_goddess]

21 hours ago, Anthony Devulder said:

 

He meant being a worthless sack of crap that continues to leave a lingering stench of spraytanned balls everywhere he goes. 

[PhilosipherStoned]

On 12/6/2023 at 7:39 PM, Anthony Devulder said:

 

I don't want you to think I'm spamming for posting this reaction gif twice since you're a mod now, but in reaction to the McCarthy clip.. 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by PhilosipherStoned

[Icarus27k]

 

 

 

[Seight]

2 hours ago, Icarus27k said:

 

 

 

I...is the audience laughing at that?

[katt_goddess]

Randy Weber's idea of defending our nation's territorial integrity is to start peeing on all the things. 

And then blame the smell on any democrat in the area. 

You'd think he'd be more worried about his campaign-finance violations. 

[Icarus27k]

Republican majority falls to 219. 

 

[Icarus27k]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Master-Debater131]

On 12/6/2023 at 10:26 AM, Master-Debater131 said:

GOP going to lose the House before theres even an election

Im really good at calling this stuff.

This could happen as early as this week, why? Because of Bobo the clown.

You can thank some fun rules in Colorado for this. Basically, because Polis announced a special election is going to be held this year Bobo the Clown has a choice. If she wants to run for that district in November then Colorado rules state she must run for it in this open election. If not, she cant actually run for that district in November. And if she wants to run for it, she has to leave her current seat. If she leaves that seat, the GOP lose the majority, at least for a few days.

Im not fully sure how that all works, but it has to do with the timing of the special election and some wonky rules we have out here. The radio has been talking about it a ton since Buck announced he was leaving. Apparently he let Polis know a while back, but didnt tell the GOP at all. That allowed for Polis to time the special election to trigger these rules.

So Buck may have not only torpedoed the GOP majority, but he may end Bobo the Clowns career ahead of schedule. She was going to lose the primary anyways because her brand of politics is pretty toxic out here.

[Raptorpat]

Woah woah woah she has to resign her seat to join the special election?

[Master-Debater131]

6 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

Woah woah woah she has to resign her seat to join the special election?

Thats what all the local radio and news people keep saying.

If she wants to run for that seat, she has to leave her current seat. You cant run for a seat in a special election while occupying a seat in another district.

[Raptorpat]

She announced today that she's not running in the special to not resign her seat, but still running in the primary. Polis scheduled the special for the same day as the primary for the general elelction, which is a thing that frequently happens in this situation. Realistically, the winner of the special and the primary are typically the same person. It's possible for a split where someone wins race A and she wins race B, but not likely.

https://coloradosun.com/2024/03/13/lauren-boebert-special-election-ken-buck/

[Master-Debater131]

Interesting.  The news here was saying if she wanted to run, she had to resign her current seat. Wonder if there was misunderstandings out there.

 

Im not convinced she even wins the primary though. Theres a lot of hate and distrust of her and her antics out there.

[scoobdog]

Not sure why voters would be confused.  I think just about half of the elections i've participated in for the last few years has had a provisional placeholder election alongside a permanent replacement election.

[Master-Debater131]

6 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Not sure why voters would be confused.  I think just about half of the elections i've participated in for the last few years has had a provisional placeholder election alongside a permanent replacement election.

Well, just think about the kind of person who votes for Bobo the Clown and it gets easier to understand why they would be easily confused.

[scoobdog]

26 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Well, just think about the kind of person who votes for Bobo the Clown and it gets easier to understand why they would be easily confused.

If what you're saying is true, there aren't many of those.

[Raptorpat]

3 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Interesting.  The news here was saying if she wanted to run, she had to resign her current seat. Wonder if there was misunderstandings out there.

To run in the special for the rest of the 2024 term, yes. But she's rolling the dice on only running in the primary for the general election.

[Master-Debater131]

3 minutes ago, Raptorpat said:

To run in the special for the rest of the 2024 term, yes. But she's rolling the dice on only running in the primary for the general election.

That makes sense then.

[Master-Debater131]

1 hour ago, scoobdog said:

If what you're saying is true, there aren't many of those.

I really dont think there are. She looks doomed based on what is being reported out here. And the move by Buck likely was the final nail.

Shes toast

[SwimOdin]

Please take Marge with her.

[tsar4]

House GOP painted themselves into a corner.

[Icarus27k]

30 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

House GOP painted themselves into a corner.

The Trump impeachments were necessary but the Republican-launched impeachments of Biden and Mayorkas are cynical politics. And the Republicans fully know this. 

[scoobdog]

7 hours ago, SwimOdin said:

Please take Marge with her.

After this election... she'll be shooting up under an interstate overpass.