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So when Pelosi's husband was almost killed during an attempted assassination, the right laughed and said she deserved it. 

After a mass shooting at a gay club, the right laughs and says they deserved it.

Right-wing terrorism is becoming acceptable in american society.

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5 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

So when Pelosi's husband was almost killed during an attempted assassination, the right laughed and said she deserved it. 

After a mass shooting at a gay club, the right laughs and says they deserved it.

Right-wing terrorism is becoming acceptable in american society.

It always has been.

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They want to kill you.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/22/politics/political-tensions-wrestling/index.html

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Two pro wrestlers developed ‘The Progressive Liberal’ to be the bad guy at matches. Then the atmosphere turned far darker

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The crowd has taken on a more violent approach towards me,” said Harnsberger, who plays the Progressive Liberal in the ring. “I had rocks thrown at me. A lady pulled out a lighter, tried to light my trunks on fire while they are on me. And had someone else pull out a switchblade.”

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One time a fan flashed a 9mm handgun on his hip and told Harnsberger to come take it, James said. 

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And a man with a Trump flag who didn’t want to give his name said he wanted to see Harnsberger beaten up. “We love wrestling, first of all,” he said as to why he was there. “But to come and show the liberal like, hey, we know what we stand for. Yeah, and definitely not the left side.”

 

When some in the audience told their neighbors to let Harnsberger speak, it boiled over. Punches were thrown. Someone was hit with a chair.

 

“It got beyond the point of heat to it’s dangerous,” James said, explaining why they cut the bout short.

 

More fights broke out and the brawling spilled into the parking lot.

 

rpgamer Luminary

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Do you think they ever have enough self awareness to recognize how one-sided the violence always is?

I guess that's probably rhetorical. Still baffling. Like. I guess they're just returning (perceived) violence with violence of their own. "They're grooming kids, so we'll kill them in retaliation" or whatever? Still pretty cartoonishly stupid.

I get the why, the being whipped up by the big people on the teevee that must be smart cuz they're on the teevee. And obviously their blind hypocrisy is nothing new. But that just seems on an extra step beyond, to never stop to consider "wow, all these mass shootings seem to have similar/common ideologies.."

But, then, I guess that's the whole point. Can't reflect on the bad things happening if you don't consider them bad.

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An exaggeration, even for you.

They've got enough wherewithal to not go killing their own.

And it's not like every one of them is out there with serious intent to kill.

They simply all have no qualms about anyone judged "wrong" turning up dead, however it has to happen.

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Current narrative when the Club Q shooting is that the shooter is non-binary. The right is jumping on this and going "SEE IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT THIS IS YOUR PEOPLE WHO DID IT"

And while it's very likely that this is misinformation, it's also very important to remember that the shooter is a Mormon and that there is no way they would allow him to even identify as NB. The LDS very much could have sculpted him into a self-loathing violent monster. But nah we can't be angry at the ultraconservative LDS right? It's the left right?

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13 hours ago, rpgamer said:

An exaggeration, even for you.

They've got enough wherewithal to not go killing their own.

And it's not like every one of them is out there with serious intent to kill.

They simply all have no qualms about anyone judged "wrong" turning up dead, however it has to happen.

The attempted assassination of Nancy Pelosi was a crossing of the Rubicon. 

The calls for murder will grow bolder. The frog is simmering and the burner is on.

America will see the day of the rope come to fruition- the world history of genocides follows a pattern, and we're right on course.

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32 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

The attempted assassination of Nancy Pelosi was a crossing of the Rubicon. 

The calls for murder will grow bolder. The frog is simmering and the burner is on.

America will see the day of the rope come to fruition- the world history of genocides follows a pattern, and we're right on course.

it's ok sponges i'll protect you

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53 minutes ago, Ginguy said:

It is the alleged shooter's lawyers who are reporting that the alleged shooter is non-binary.

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/anderson-lee-aldrich-club-q-shooting-non-binary/

They’re just trying to confuse people on hate crime charges. The perp can be NB, doesn’t make it not a hate crime. It also doesn’t excuse the rhetoric on all forms of media that is making incidents like this all too common.  

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21 minutes ago, Poofy said:

a nonbinary god fearin' republican patriot i tell u hwat

Yeah, really not seeing the point in even bringing it up. Does gingo and ilk have some bizarre belief that only leftists can be nonbinary?

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12 minutes ago, rpgamer said:

Yeah, really not seeing the point in even bringing it up. Does gingo and ilk have some bizarre belief that only leftists can be nonbinary?

i thought ginguy was nb

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2 hours ago, Ginguy said:

It is the alleged shooter's lawyers who are reporting that the alleged shooter is non-binary.

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/anderson-lee-aldrich-club-q-shooting-non-binary/

 

1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

They’re just trying to confuse people on hate crime charges. The perp can be NB, doesn’t make it not a hate crime. It also doesn’t excuse the rhetoric on all forms of media that is making incidents like this all too common.  

It could even be an outright lie meant to confuse... its not like the defense lawyers know who their client is after three or four days.  It very well could be misinformation.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a lie to try to duck a hate crime charge AND take control of the narrative by fueling the idea of LGBT people staging a hate crime to slander conservatives who were already one anti-LGBT op-ed away from shooting up drag brunches, library story times, children’s hospitals, and classrooms across America.

Also, if you side with the shooter or any media that supports the shooter, you can fuck yourself in hell.

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32 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

 

It could even be an outright lie meant to confuse... its not like the defense lawyers know who their client is after three or four days.  It very well could be misinformation.

It very well could be an outright lie however the perpetrator was cyber bullied to the point where they had a name change. What the bullying was about wasn’t clear but it included releasing his images to other sites and making fake wikis of him on fake wiki type sites.  They even have a YouTube channel prior to the name change and the only video was a crude animation of an “Asian homosexual being molested” which was likely part of the perp being bullied and wasn’t actually him but no one knows 

Not making excuses just sayin they can be NB and their life experiences could’ve led to them turning bitter and self hating. Idt it will prevent the hate crime charges but it will definitely confuse a jury and prevent them from finding them guilty. 
 

unless there’s a twist to hate crime laws saying if you’re from said group you can’t commit hate crimes against them?  Idt that exists as that would be a nonsensical thing. 

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3 hours ago, Poofy said:

it's ok sponges i'll protect you

I don't need protection I need...

Shit, I was trying to think of something smartass but I'm drawing a blank.

How about this then-

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OJ's lawyer said the glove didn't fit.

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Also if he was non-binary his dad sure didn't know.

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“They started telling me about the incident, a shooting involving multiple people, and then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I said, ‘God, is he gay?’ I got scared, ‘Shit, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, ‘Phhhewww…’” You know Mormons don’t do gay. We don’t do gay. There’s no gays in the Mormon church. We don’t do gay.”

 

goofy shit.

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11 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

Also if he was non-binary his dad sure didn't know

I watched the full 20 minutes. His dad says he hasn't seen or been involved in his son's life at all for over a decade, and claimed the mother told him his son killed himself in 2016 and until this year the dad thought his kid was dead. So he wouldn't and doesn't seem to know anything at all about his son. 

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4 hours ago, Ginguy said:

It is the alleged shooter's lawyers who are reporting that the alleged shooter is non-binary.

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/11/22/anderson-lee-aldrich-club-q-shooting-non-binary/

The 'alleged' shooter's 'alleged' neighbors have reported that he would often be heard screaming bigoted slurs and enjoyed himself that good ol' hate speech that fills the crops of most 'alleged' conservatives.

Lawyers probably decided 'incel' was too on the nose and went with non-binary for the confusion factor.

Because if dude's an actual NB, I'm a nympho and my 100th film 'Backdoor Inuyasha' will be out for XXXmas. :|  

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1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

It very well could be an outright lie however the perpetrator was cyber bullied to the point where they had a name change. What the bullying was about wasn’t clear but it included releasing his images to other sites and making fake wikis of him on fake wiki type sites.  They even have a YouTube channel prior to the name change and the only video was a crude animation of an “Asian homosexual being molested” which was likely part of the perp being bullied and wasn’t actually him but no one knows 

Not making excuses just sayin they can be NB and their life experiences could’ve led to them turning bitter and self hating. Idt it will prevent the hate crime charges but it will definitely confuse a jury and prevent them from finding them guilty. 
 

unless there’s a twist to hate crime laws saying if you’re from said group you can’t commit hate crimes against them?  Idt that exists as that would be a nonsensical thing. 

I think there’s more context.  It’s an unquestioned given that acts he’s accused of are premeditated murder, but it is difficult to define a motive with deep psychological roots like bigotry without an established history (preferably with progression / regression). How do you say he murdered the victims solely because he hates all LGBTQ+ people when, say, there are instances where he engaged them as part of his reckoning with his own gender?  The hate enhancements aren’t a substitute for justifying the killings so you would have to prove there is a pattern of hating LGBTQ+ people before the murders take place, and that’s difficult in this scenario.

One thing to also consider is that our justice system rarely delves into the concept of self loathing.  It’s not generally a successful argument for either exonerating a defendant or convicting them simply because it runs counter to the concept of self preservation that is used to define the victim.  That tends to be a factor when prosecutors consider hate enhancement charges:  they usually have solid proof that someone is lying about their intentions before pursuing a conviction.

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The Mormons do hardcore pornography but they don’t do gay. The father does porn. I can’t imagine what type. 
 

I can’t, for the life of me, understand how being a mass murderer is preferable to being gay?  Ffs I don’t see no commandment out of the ten that says “don’t be gay” but quite a few saying don’t kill and don’t be a dick to your neighbor, neighbor being the literal and figurative. Religion is a fuckin scam used to justify any-fuckin-thing. Almost every scumbag humanity violating act can be traced back to religion in some way

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4 hours ago, Chapinator_X said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a lie to try to duck a hate crime charge AND take control of the narrative by fueling the idea of LGBT people staging a hate crime to slander conservatives who were already one anti-LGBT op-ed away from shooting up drag brunches, library story times, children’s hospitals, and classrooms across America.

Also, if you side with the shooter or any media that supports the shooter, you can fuck yourself in hell.

That first part was my suspicion.  The rest of what you said is also very possible.

Fox news has been demonizing drag queens and the LGBT community for a while now.  Just look at what they say about the DG story times.
I would say a great deal of these shootings are a result of them and conservative media in general fueling hate.  Tucker Carlson being a big player.

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1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said:

The Mormons do hardcore pornography but they don’t do gay. The father does porn. I can’t imagine what type. 
 

Ive read he played the bad guy in the spiderman porn parody, and if i recall correctly he was a talentless hack.

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16 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

Ive read he played the bad guy in the spiderman porn parody, and if i recall correctly he was a talentless hack.

Update- holy crap it's exactly who I thought it was and oh my god. 

NSFW review and specific clip from the movie:

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https://comicsastonish.com/2011/11/01/ca-reviews-spider-man-xxx-a-porn-parody/

https://ita.xhamster.com/videos/spider-man-xxx-a-porn-parody-xhIRV3r?t=1590.69

Seriously, this guy was HORRIBLE.

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37 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m not watching that I’m just gonna take your word for it. If sponges says the dude was a talentless hack, then it’s true. Sponges knows porn 

That was pretty much my thought too.

Say whatever it is you feel like saying about his news links or politics or whatever, but don't doubt his porn reviews. :D:D:D 

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At least when the right inevitably block jail time, we can all take solace knowing he'll spend the rest of his life getting spammed by his dad's porn whenever he gets online. Aka, every waking moment.

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1 hour ago, katt_goddess said:

That was pretty much my thought too.

Say whatever it is you feel like saying about his news links or politics or whatever, but don't doubt his porn reviews. :D:D:D 

EXACTLY

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You actually almost owe it to yourselves to see just how godawful this guys performance is...

It's like his idea of how to play a "bad guy" character is just nasty ass grunts and, can't stress this enough- paint huff.

Like, I was legit mad when I watched this back  in the day.

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41 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

You actually almost owe it to yourselves to see just how godawful this guys performance is...

It's like his idea of how to play a "bad guy" character is just nasty ass grunts and, can't stress this enough- paint huff.

Like, I was legit mad when I watched this back  in the day.

How many times does he ask "Is it in?"

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On 11/22/2022 at 10:49 PM, rpgamer said:

Do you think they ever have enough self awareness to recognize how one-sided the violence always is?

I'm returning to this with the conclusion that no, they are completely incapable of anything resembling self awareness or introspection.

I could spend hours just scrolling through this account for the lulz.

 

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