naraku360 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:29 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Simple question then, are our politicians bought and paid for by Big Pharma? Edit: And if you think they are, is that a problem? Expand Oh, so you weren't saying they oppose RFK Jr for being bought by big pharma because you think he's against big pharma? Alright, then you're mildly less dumb. Still ridiculous as fuck to think RFK Jr isn't bought when he keeps getting money from them. And to suggest Sanders is pro-big pharma is simply beyond ludicrous. 2 Quote
tsar4 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:44 AM, Insipid said: Just two hours after we said that, Pooh. Let me try something else . . . as the GOP seems to like "Roman salutes," the US Senate should remember how the Roman Senate handled a certain situation. Expand 5 Quote
discolé monade Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Trump administration purges websites across federal health agenciesJanuary 31, 20254:50 PM ET 1 Quote
Top Gun Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:29 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Simple question then, are our politicians bought and paid for by Big Pharma? Edit: And if you think they are, is that a problem? Expand No politician should be accepting ANY money from corporate interests, Big Pharma or otherwise. Most of them are. Yes, that is a problem. This is completely separate from the fact that RFK Jr is a batshit insane worm-brained shitcock who shouldn't be trusted with a preschool toy doctor set, much less anything close to national public health policy. 1 2 Quote
stilgar Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:43 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Is he perfect? No. But is he a step in teh right direction? Absolutely yes. He has stated, and stated again in his hearings, that the capture by big pharma of politicians and the FDA is a problem that absolutely needs to be addressed. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/30/robert_f_kennedy_jr_when_you_litigate_against_these_agencies_you_get_a_phd_in_corporate_capture.html RFK continues to ask the question "why". And just for asking that question he is treated as some sort of extremist. "Radical Transparency", as he puts it, is absolutely the best way to go. But that threatened Big Parhama and their capture of Congress and the FDA, so he must be labled an extremist to protect corporate profits. Expand 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 2:52 AM, 1pooh4u said: Senate confirmed ND Gov Burgum as interior secretary. Don’t know what that is or who he is but I am sure he’s terrible Did RFKJ get confirmed yet? I’m hoping enough GOP senators will think he’s a liberal loon and vote “no” it’s gotta be 4 or more of them, otherwise couch fucker just fucks the couch and breaks it Expand Even I'm willingly to admit that compared to the rest of the demented knobgoblins nominated, he's almost normal. But he's the equivalent of lead paint chips in a daycare - someone is going to get poisoned, you just don't necessarily know who or when. He's the one that said while he was running for president that he had only had two jobs in his life - bank president and governor of ND and wasn't going to be anything less than president [ this from yet another republican that insists they know all about hard work and sacrifice because they are just like everyone else ]. He was also on the record saying that Drumpf was unfit and that he wouldn't want to be associated with someone like that because you know the character of a man by the company he keeps. And then when he lost the primaries to Shitler, a potential job offer in the cabinet was dangled in front of him and he couldn't pay in enough for it. And yes, he gave money to Drumpf for this job. Interior Secretary would be in charge of public lands, oil and minerals, parks, ensuring continuing trust with the Native populations, conservation. Buttgum once attempted to claim that the Standing Rock People were out-of-state protesters [ they were here before this wasteland was even a state ]. He's 100% pro-Big Oil. And he'd be in charge of whether or not to get Drumpf's huge ego carved into Mt. Rushmore. Guess what his vote would be? 3 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Exclusive: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency, sources say it's ok. it's the d.o.g.e. 1 1 Quote
naraku360 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 11:40 PM, stilgar said: Expand Yes. Yes, she is. 2 Quote
katt_goddess Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 9:43 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Is he perfect? No. But is he a step in teh right direction? Absolutely yes. He has stated, and stated again in his hearings, that the capture by big pharma of politicians and the FDA is a problem that absolutely needs to be addressed. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/30/robert_f_kennedy_jr_when_you_litigate_against_these_agencies_you_get_a_phd_in_corporate_capture.html RFK continues to ask the question "why". And just for asking that question he is treated as some sort of extremist. "Radical Transparency", as he puts it, is absolutely the best way to go. But that threatened Big Parhama and their capture of Congress and the FDA, so he must be labled an extremist to protect corporate profits. Expand Would you be this moist for Roadkill Robert if he was a Biden nominee? And I feel the need to remind you since you probably forgot [ it was a whole 11 days ago after all ] that Drumpf EO'd a revocation of anything Biden did which absolutely included all the work done to lower prescription drugs and cap insulin. Big Pharma is now able to claim they don't wanna and everyone gets to pay thousands of dollars for needed meds or just plain die. So...who is pro company profits again? 1 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 5:21 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Since people are struggling with it, heres the list of the top 20 Big Pharma politicians from 1990-2024 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U 11 are Democrats, 2 are Independents (who caucused with Democrats), and 7 are Republicans. Harris is #1, followed by Biden, Obama, and Hillary. Romney is the first Republican on the list. Sanders is #12 on this list. Expand Since you’re struggling with who actually gave him that $ here’s an explanation. The $ Sanders received came almost entirely from rank and file employees https://readsludge.com/2025/01/31/on-the-bernie-rfk-pharma-money-spat/ 4 Quote
naraku360 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 1:00 AM, 1pooh4u said: Since you’re struggling with who actually gave him that $ here’s an explanation. The $ Sanders received came almost entirely from rank and file employees https://readsludge.com/2025/01/31/on-the-bernie-rfk-pharma-money-spat/ Expand Wasn't a sizable chunk of Harris' campaign also from normal employees? 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 1:02 AM, naraku360 said: Wasn't a sizable chunk of Harris' campaign also from normal employees? Expand That idk. 1 Quote
scoobdog Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 9:43 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Is he perfect? No. But is he a step in teh right direction? Absolutely yes. He has stated, and stated again in his hearings, that the capture by big pharma of politicians and the FDA is a problem that absolutely needs to be addressed. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/30/robert_f_kennedy_jr_when_you_litigate_against_these_agencies_you_get_a_phd_in_corporate_capture.html RFK continues to ask the question "why". And just for asking that question he is treated as some sort of extremist. "Radical Transparency", as he puts it, is absolutely the best way to go. But that threatened Big Parhama and their capture of Congress and the FDA, so he must be labled an extremist to protect corporate profits. Expand So this is what happened. You have a way of burning people don’t you? Quote
discolé monade Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Yet a pair of lavish, multibillion-dollar planes are somehow not on the chopping block, once again showing the administration's unwillingness to put its money where its mouth is. 39$bil up to 41$bil. yup....sure as hell seems like a mighty fine investment, mighty fine investment, indeed. /s/ 2 Quote
Satou Kazuma Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Trump has finally weaponized the DOJ with all the mass firings in the FBI related to Jan. 6 attempted coup in the name of Trump's "stolen election". https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-agents-on-jan-6-capitol-riot-trump-investigations-to-be-fired-sources-say/ In other news, the EPA is also kaput. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/epa-employees-warned-of-immediate-termination/ 1 1 Quote
Jman Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 (edited) Something is going to break. This is the sort of thing where it just takes one person to light a fuse and everything really goes to hell. Probably hoping to declare martial law. Edited February 1 by Jman 5 Quote
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 4:19 AM, Jman said: Something is going to break. This is the sort of thing where it just takes one person to light a fuse and everything really goes to hell. Probably hoping to declare martial law. Expand 5 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 1 Posted February 1 His responses raised concern among health experts that Kennedy lacks basic skills needed for the job. 5 Quote
PenguinBoss Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 1/31/2025 at 9:43 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Is he perfect? No. But is he a step in teh right direction? Absolutely yes. He has stated, and stated again in his hearings, that the capture by big pharma of politicians and the FDA is a problem that absolutely needs to be addressed. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/30/robert_f_kennedy_jr_when_you_litigate_against_these_agencies_you_get_a_phd_in_corporate_capture.html RFK continues to ask the question "why". And just for asking that question he is treated as some sort of extremist. "Radical Transparency", as he puts it, is absolutely the best way to go. But that threatened Big Parhama and their capture of Congress and the FDA, so he must be labled an extremist to protect corporate profits. Expand The most I could give you is that RFK is several steps past the right direction. He caused a measles outbreak in Guam, but you want him in charge of the entire country's health? Oh, I know why. It's because you don't think it'll ever affect you negatively. 7 Quote
discolé monade Posted February 1 Posted February 1 prison is big money. big big money. The cost of keeping a prisoner at Guantanamo Bay is estimated to be over $13 million per year. This makes it one of the most expensive prisons in the world. The cost per prisoner in the federal prison system varies by security level and type of facility. In 2024, the average daily cost to house a prisoner in a federal prison was: Minimum security: $151.02 per day Low security: $25,378 per year Medium security: $26,247 per year High security: $33,930 per year 1 Quote
PenguinBoss Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Isn't it so high because it's relative to how many people are in the facility vs. operating costs? Like, I sincerely don't believe it would cost 13 billion a year if there were 1000 people in there. 2 Quote
tsar4 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 4:12 AM, Satou Kazuma said: Trump has finally weaponized the DOJ with all the mass firings in the FBI related to Jan. 6 attempted coup in the name of Trump's "stolen election". https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-agents-on-jan-6-capitol-riot-trump-investigations-to-be-fired-sources-say/ In other news, the EPA is also kaput. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/epa-employees-warned-of-immediate-termination/ Expand He's going to dump a ton of people out on the streets, then fill the vacancies with his cronies & people who will think "they owe him". Wouldn't be surprised to see some more of the Jan. 6 idiots filling some of them. 3 Quote
tsar4 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 I tried too, he's still there... https://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2025/02/01 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Wonder how soon before "somebody" shuts them down? The "data analyst" in me is intrigued. https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-election-analysis https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1iew7mv/well_just_have_to_see_how_this_plays_out/#lightbox 1 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 4:49 PM, tsar4 said: Wonder how soon before "somebody" shuts them down? The "data analyst" in me is intrigued. https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-election-analysis https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/1iew7mv/well_just_have_to_see_how_this_plays_out/#lightbox Expand Thinking about this, the comment that Trump made about Musk knowing all about vote counting computers and the rush to get everyone out of Gov't he doesn't like. He's pulling a football "turf" play - rushing to get as many of his people entrenched as he can so when this all comes out, he'll have people everywhere doing his bidding anyway. Quote
discolé monade Posted February 1 Posted February 1 (edited) On 2/1/2025 at 3:18 PM, PenguinBoss said: Isn't it so high because it's relative to how many people are in the facility vs. operating costs? Like, I sincerely don't believe it would cost 13 billion a year if there were 1000 people in there. ****also in 2003 were many $$ drops to iraq, with absolutely no checks/balances or bookkeeping. one of several, losses of vast amounts of cash by the military complex. Expand In 2003, the cost to operate Guantanamo Bay detention camp was significantly less than the billions it would eventually cost in later years, but exact figures for that specific year are difficult to pinpoint precisely due to the early stages of the facility's development. However, we can estimate based on information available: Early Estimates: Initial estimates for the cost of the Iraq War, which began in 2003, were in the tens of billions of dollars, and the cost of operating Guantanamo was initially projected to be a fraction of that. Early Costs: By 2003, the facility was still under construction and development, with the initial camp headquarters being built in 2004. Rising Costs: While the exact cost for 2003 is not readily available, by 2013, the total cost of building and operating the prison from 2002 to 2014 was estimated at $5.2 billion, and that figure has continued to rise. Per-Prisoner Costs: In 2013, the per-prisoner cost was estimated to be over $13 million per year, indicating the significant financial burden of the detention facility. In essence, while the exact cost of running Guantanamo Bay in 2003 is not readily available, it was significantly lower than the billions of dollars it has cost in later years, as the facility was still in its early stages of development and the prisoner population was also smaller at that time Edited February 1 by discolé monade 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Blows my fuckin mind that anyone can say RFKJ is a step in the right direction and that he cries about “corporate capture” as someone from one of the most powerful families in this country is a fuckin joke. To ignore the outbreak he triggered with his bullshit is all you need to know but @Master-Debater131 will ignore all that and just focus on the shit that makes sense and is reasonable That’s exactly how fascist dictatorships are formed when the citizens say “well sure he’s anti vaccine and anti science but he wants to remove big pharma from politics with zero plan or ability. He must be ok” fuckin idiots IS2G 2 4 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 This is the most confusing administration, probably by design, that I can remember. He got rid of DEI, EEOC and all diversity initiatives in the federal government. His Pentagon and State Department are not acknowledging Black History Month. He then releases a statement trying to sound all in on Black History Month. He threw Tiger Woods name in his statement somewhere. Ofc Trump loves Tiger Woods. He’s got tons of $ and cheats on his wife too. Other than that the other people named are either questionable character people still living like Justice Thomas or grade school learning level like Tubman and Douglas. That’s fine I guess but I’m just sayin throw in some people most people might not have heard of, like Henrietta Lacks or probably thousands of other people deserving of historic immortality but haven’t even gotten a “thank you” 1 2 1 Quote
tsar4 Posted February 1 Posted February 1 (edited) Edit: I think this should be a 3 panel, this should be the first & last panel. The middle panel should be him looking at Washington over his shoulder, with Washington in his original position. (BTW, anybody else see a woman's head in the table leg & cloth?) Edited February 2 by tsar4 5 Quote
MasqueradeOverture Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Oh my fucking god https://bsky.app/profile/wyden.senate.gov/post/3lh5ejpwncc23 3 Quote
Jman Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 9:38 PM, MasqueradeOverture said: Oh my fucking god https://bsky.app/profile/wyden.senate.gov/post/3lh5ejpwncc23 Expand This is reaching “Military is going to take over and round up the President and his friends” levels. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Canada forced to talk about the US like we’re the enemy. What a crazy fuckin timeline 4 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 9:38 PM, MasqueradeOverture said: Oh my fucking god https://bsky.app/profile/wyden.senate.gov/post/3lh5ejpwncc23 Expand Wtaf? 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 12:09 AM, discolé monade said: Exclusive: Musk aides lock government workers out of computer systems at US agency, sources say it's ok. it's the d.o.g.e. Expand Wtaf?!? Musk is fuckin insane and needs to be locked tf up 4 Quote
Jman Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 10:00 PM, 1pooh4u said: WTAF?!? Sorry if this was already posted https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-aides-lock-government-workers-out-computer-systems-us-agency-sources-say-2025-01-31/ Expand Ostensibly it’s so they can cut off every single form of aid. Realistically this is what sets off an intervention, and historically has in Roman times. The tyrants forcing themselves into Rome to dispose of leaders. Shit is about to get very ugly. 4 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 10:01 PM, Jman said: Ostensibly it’s so they can cut off every single form of aid. Realistically this is what sets off an intervention, and historically has in Roman times. The tyrants forcing themselves into Rome to dispose of leaders. Shit is about to get very ugly. Expand lol I deleted my post because @discolé monade posted it yesterday but it sounds very similar to what he did at Twitter 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Idfk do we need to start thinking Musk somehow stole the election for Trump? *dons tinfoil hat* 2 Quote
Jman Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 10:04 PM, 1pooh4u said: Idfk do we need to start thinking Musk somehow stole the election for Trump? *dons tinfoil hat* Expand It’s been a fringe theory since November. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 10:06 PM, Jman said: It’s been a fringe theory since November. Expand I’m starting to wonder now with all his satellites and tech abilities. He’s got access to things he definitely shouldn’t. I know some of it is recent but idfk. Trump says shit that raises eyebrows but he knows we won’t do shit. Why? Cuz we don’t want to be like them despite being shown over and over that all their accusations were actually confessions 2 Quote
Jman Posted February 1 Author Posted February 1 So Trump just signed the tariffs because…fuck you that’s why. Interestingly, Canada and Mexico are poised to counter by hitting retaliatory tariffs, but only on red state products and Teslas. 7 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 (edited) the alt national parks service explaining how government employees resisting order from Musk are treated. They also explain how DOGE is completely illegal Edited February 1 by 1pooh4u 3 Quote
rpgamer Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Typical dems. "We posted on social media already. There's literally nothing more we can do." 1 1 Quote
Insipid Posted February 1 Posted February 1 All of Elon Musk's assets should be siezed. This is getting fucking ridiculous. 3 2 Quote
Top Gun Posted February 1 Posted February 1 I mean I know a better thing we can do with him. Several, in fact. 1 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 11:08 PM, rpgamer said: Typical dems. "We posted on social media already. There's literally nothing more we can do." Expand Are you referring to the alt national parks service because they are literally actively resisting Trump and Musk everyday 1 Quote
Insipid Posted February 1 Posted February 1 On 2/1/2025 at 11:17 PM, Top Gun said: I mean I know a better thing we can do with him. Several, in fact. Expand Necklacing. 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted February 1 Posted February 1 The shit Musk is doing here he is doing all over the globe. I’m hoping he missteps and gets arrested for doing something stupid. I hope it’s soon 3 Quote
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