discolé monade Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 2:52 AM, 1pooh4u said: Senate confirmed ND Gov Burgum as interior secretary. Don’t know what that is or who he is but I am sure he’s terrible Did RFKJ get confirmed yet? I’m hoping enough GOP senators will think he’s a liberal loon and vote “no” it’s gotta be 4 or more of them, otherwise couch fucker just fucks the couch and breaks it Expand not yet...but i hope this seals the deal: Alsobrooks, one of only two Black women serving in the Senate, questioned Kennedy on what he meant regarding a 2021 claim that “we should not be giving Black people the same vaccine schedule that’s given to whites because their immune system is better than ours.” 1 3 Quote
Insipid Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/30/2025 at 1:20 AM, 1pooh4u said: We’re going back to the days of child labor and shit like this too, which led to regulations. Thing is everyone hates regulations because they don’t remember how it was before https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire Expand On 1/30/2025 at 1:05 AM, Insipid said: I've been thinking we're probably gonna have an avoidable deregulating engineering disaster because of all these fucks. Something like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyatt_Regency_walkway_collapse Expand Well, it seems we were close. More of this to come. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:30 AM, Insipid said: Well, it seems we were close. More of this to come. Expand I wasn’t expecting it so soon but unfortunately you’re right. This will not be the last 3 Quote
Insipid Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:33 AM, 1pooh4u said: I wasn’t expecting it so soon but unfortunately you’re right. This will not be the last Expand Just two hours after we said that, Pooh. Let me try something else . . . as the GOP seems to like "Roman salutes," the US Senate should remember how the Roman Senate handled a certain situation. 2 Quote
rpgamer Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 12:44 AM, André Toulon said: It's so funny people still want accountability from Trump. At some point it's not even his fault. He's already shown everyone who he is and how he operates a billion times. If you're still looking for a show of humanity, then it's your own idiocy. Expand I think (hope) it's less about expecting accountability from him, and more shining a light on his irresponsibility for all the world, and his supporters, to see. If any of them weren't evil fuckers enjoying the cruelty and suffering, they'd have an increasingly hard time justifying their support of someone, y'know.. enabling the cruelty and suffering. 2 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 The real reason that Democrats oppose RFK is because they are bought and paid for by Big Pharma. 5 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 2:54 PM, Master-Debater131 said: The real reason that Democrats oppose RFK is because they are bought and paid for by Big Pharma. Expand No it’s because he killed kids in Guam with his nonsense and that nonsense could lead to mass casualties given we’re dealing with bird flu and tuberculosis breakouts, breakouts we need vaccines to keep under control. Keep up. 2 6 Quote
1pooh4u Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 2:54 PM, Master-Debater131 said: The real reason that Democrats oppose RFK is because they are bought and paid for by Big Pharma. Expand Did you even bother to see if that was a factual accusation? Because RFKJ got his facts wrong. Sanders doesn’t take PAC money. Fuckin read something before you post from out your ass, ok? Big pharma gives way more to republicans than the democrats so yeah let’s not pretend that RFKJ isn’t a lunatic and that he didn’t cause a measles outbreak in Samoa https://newrepublic.com/post/190958/robert-f-kennedy-jr-bernie-sanders-big-pharma-money 2 2 1 Quote
1pooh4u Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 2:56 PM, Jman said: No it’s because he killed kids in Guam with his nonsense and that nonsense could lead to mass casualties given we’re dealing with bird flu and tuberculosis breakouts, breakouts we need vaccines to keep under control. Keep up. Expand Don’t even bother. A few clicks and you can see RFKJ was mistaken probably because of brain worms and his decades of drug abuse 3 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 UH huh, cool story. Im sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the absolutely massive amounts of Pharma money that runs into Democratic coffers. Nope, none at all. 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted January 31 Posted January 31 come on. you don't know her fishy schtick by now. she loves that *gasp* moment becuase she super edge-lord. come on...don't even bother with puppet. 3 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:01 PM, Master-Debater131 said: UH huh, cool story. Im sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the absolutely massive amounts of Pharma money that runs into Democratic coffers. Nope, none at all. Expand I don’t want kids to die. I think that’s a bare minimum for anyone in charge of health. He meanwhile, UNDER OATH, promoted vaccine skepticism while admitting his vaccines his own kids. Fuck this rules for thee and not for me horseshit. 5 Quote
discolé monade Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:01 PM, Master-Debater131 said: UH huh, cool story. Im sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the absolutely massive amounts of Pharma money that runs into Democratic coffers. Nope, none at all. Expand no...it has absolutely nothing to do with big pharma. and everything to do with him selling onsies that promote anti-vax or that he gets money from every client that comes in , whether they get $$ or not for vax damage claims. i know you really are trying your very hardest to be edgy...poor thing. bless your heart. 3 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 https://jacobin.com/2024/03/pharma-drug-price-negotiations-democrats Heres a fun story from last year talking about how Pharma backed Democrats were working against Bidens attempt to lower drug prices. But Im sure thats just a coincidence. 4 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:05 PM, Master-Debater131 said: https://jacobin.com/2024/03/pharma-drug-price-negotiations-democrats Heres a fun story from last year talking about how Pharma backed Democrats were working against Bidens attempt to lower drug prices. But Im sure thats just a coincidence. Expand Bernie asked RFK Jr. if healthcare was a human right and he said he couldn’t answer. No one in Big Pharma believes it’s a right because rights get in the way of profits. 2 6 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Hahaha, the Onesies. "DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED ONESIE!!!" 3 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 (edited) I’m looking forward to this edgelord too cool for school deflection to explain $20 eggs, no vaccines for bird flu, and triple the prices on everything the hell else. Now if only Murdoch can drop dead since apparently his more liberal children managed to secure majority control of NewsCorp as soon as he dies. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/probate-commissioner-rejects-rupert-murdochs-attempt-to-change-family-trust-over-fox-news-media-empire-control Edited January 31 by Jman 2 Quote
André Toulon Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:11 PM, discolé monade said: whelp. love that iggy feature. Expand I won't ruin your efforts...I was gonna quote it but it's MD and I don't have that insatiable need to respond to her dumbassery like I do some others 4 Quote
discolé monade Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:15 PM, André Toulon said: I won't ruin your efforts...I was gonna quote it but it's MD and I don't have that insatiable need to respond to her dumbassery like I do some others Expand i know. it's in vain. but for today....just looking at her idiotic posts. i can't help but think she's actually pacterd's alt. 1 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 3:10 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Hahaha, the Onesies. "DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED ONESIE!!!" Expand And? RFKJ wants to be the head of health while selling clearly anti vax products? RFKJ is lying he has said multiple times he is anti vaccine 2 Quote
PenguinBoss Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 2:59 PM, 1pooh4u said: Did you even bother to see if that was a factual accusation? Because RFKJ got his facts wrong. Sanders doesn’t take PAC money. Fuckin read something before you post from out your ass, ok? Big pharma gives way more to republicans than the democrats so yeah let’s not pretend that RFKJ isn’t a lunatic and that he didn’t cause a measles outbreak in Samoa https://newrepublic.com/post/190958/robert-f-kennedy-jr-bernie-sanders-big-pharma-money Expand Hope you're ready to be conveniently ignored. Just like it doesn't really make sense for big pharma to be behind the Dems' pushback on RFK Jr. Treatment after catching a disease makes a ton more money than a shot to prevent it. 3 Quote
1pooh4u Posted January 31 Posted January 31 MD was obviously dropped on her head several times and she loves what’s happening. She’s a fuckin clown. 3 Quote
Top Gun Posted January 31 Posted January 31 So hey, can we ban someone for being a lying piece of shit? Asking for a friend. 2 Quote
1pooh4u Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:11 PM, Top Gun said: So hey, can we ban someone for being a lying piece of shit? Asking for a friend. Expand That probably depends on the lie. MD posting the way she does because of all the head slaps she received(and probably still receives) doesn’t count. 2 Quote
naraku360 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 2:54 PM, Master-Debater131 said: The real reason that Democrats oppose RFK is because they are bought and paid for by Big Pharma. Expand You think they oppose the guy who gets money from big pharma because they are bought by..... big pharma....? ..... ............. .................. .......................................... 4 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Since people are struggling with it, heres the list of the top 20 Big Pharma politicians from 1990-2024 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U 11 are Democrats, 2 are Independents (who caucused with Democrats), and 7 are Republicans. Harris is #1, followed by Biden, Obama, and Hillary. Romney is the first Republican on the list. Sanders is #12 on this list. 2 Quote
naraku360 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 5:21 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Since people are struggling with it, heres the list of the top 20 Big Pharma politicians from 1990-2024 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U 11 are Democrats, 2 are Independents (who caucused with Democrats), and 7 are Republicans. Harris is #1, followed by Biden, Obama, and Hillary. Romney is the first Republican on the list. Sanders is #12 on this list. Expand Why would the people getting paid by big pharma be opposed to someone paid by big pharma? You absolute retard. 2 Quote
[classic swim] Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Romney is the first republican on this list. Sanders is #12 on this list. The dick in muh hoo boy is #5 on this list. Charlamagne tha God is number #Hoohoo on this list. 2 Quote
stilgar Posted January 31 Posted January 31 It isn't a day ending in y without md spreading far right propaganda on this site. 2 Quote
rpgamer Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 4:11 PM, Top Gun said: So hey, can we ban someone for being a lying piece of shit? Asking for a friend. Expand Yeahhhh.. at this point it's blatantly spreading misinformation and propaganda. But it's cool, guys. That's just, like, her opinion, man. Definitely no agenda to it. 3 Quote
naraku360 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 7:51 PM, rpgamer said: Yeahhhh.. at this point it's blatantly spreading misinformation and propaganda. But it's cool, guys. That's just, like, her opinion, man. Definitely no agenda to it. Expand Who is she tricking? Everyone knows she's retarded. 2 Quote
André Toulon Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) On 1/31/2025 at 7:51 PM, rpgamer said: Yeahhhh.. at this point it's blatantly spreading misinformation and propaganda. But it's cool, guys. That's just, like, her opinion, man. Definitely no agenda to it. Expand I, for one don't want to be stuck in an echo chamber with y'all. I agree, MD is doing this shit on purpose, but it's you choosing to read it knowing it's going to trigger you. The last thing I want is to be stuck here with a bunch of people who's entire plan for the next four years is predicated on the idea that Trump is just gonna drop dead. Shit would be boring and I need a little spice with my message board. Now don't get me wrong, historically y'all have been able to cry people away before and that's cool ....but has any of that stopped reality. MD spreading misinformation to a bunch of people who don't buy it isn't really effective and pretty benign imo, but I do understand that I'm in a gross minority of people who like fucking with idiots. I'll not vie for anything in current events as I'm not really effected, but I think the utopia y'all seek where everyone hates the same thing has very flimsy potential not to become a cannibalism folder when y'all run out of pariahs. Edited January 31 by André Toulon 1 2 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:28 PM, [classic swim] said: Poor Jman. Expand I don’t think wanting to avoid triple on…everything is that dramatic a position. Granted, with the Trump party, anything resembling human empathy is a sign of weakness. As for pariahs, we’re a rather tightly knit community here. Message boards are a reflection of an older internet culture. 3 Quote
rpgamer Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:28 PM, André Toulon said: Expand I don't super have high stakes in it either, but.. I'm also less bothered by the prospect of an echo chamber. I mean, I get the concerns, but, an echo chamber is only bad if you literally never step out of it. Which this place is too small and inactive for that to likely be the case. I look at it like The Daily Show. They're not out there trying to change minds being the voice of reason. They're there for fans to commiserate, to feel justified in their beliefs. It gets echo chamber-y, but it's a place of comfort to get away from the harsh realities. But, I, too, recognize I'm often in the minority of having no qualms about curating the hell out of my internet experience to suit my needs. 4 Quote
naraku360 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:28 PM, André Toulon said: I, for one don't want to be stuck in an echo chamber with y'all. I agree, MD is doing this shit on purpose, but it's you choosing to read it knowing it's going to trigger you. The last thing I want is to be stuck here with a bunch of people who's entire plan for the next four years is predicated on the idea that Trump is just gonna drop dead. Shit would be boring and I need a little spice with my message board. Now don't get me wrong, historically y'all have been able to cry people away before and that's cool ....but has any of that stopped reality. MD spreading misinformation to a bunch of people who don't buy it isn't really effective and pretty benign imo, but I do understand that I'm in a gross minority of people who like fucking with idiots. I'll not vie for anything in current events as I'm not really effected, but I think the utopia y'all seek where everyone hates the same thing has very flimsy potential not to become a cannibalism folder when y'all run out of pariahs. Expand She's one of my last punching bags. 😢 1 Quote
Top Gun Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 8:28 PM, André Toulon said: I, for one don't want to be stuck in an echo chamber with y'all. I agree, MD is doing this shit on purpose, but it's you choosing to read it knowing it's going to trigger you. The last thing I want is to be stuck here with a bunch of people who's entire plan for the next four years is predicated on the idea that Trump is just gonna drop dead. Shit would be boring and I need a little spice with my message board. Now don't get me wrong, historically y'all have been able to cry people away before and that's cool ....but has any of that stopped reality. MD spreading misinformation to a bunch of people who don't buy it isn't really effective and pretty benign imo, but I do understand that I'm in a gross minority of people who like fucking with idiots. I'll not vie for anything in current events as I'm not really effected, but I think the utopia y'all seek where everyone hates the same thing has very flimsy potential not to become a cannibalism folder when y'all run out of pariahs. Expand I get the echo chamber thing and that you like having toys to play with, but I look at it like this. If you're going to have a folder dedicated to political discussion, then there has to be some base standard there. Like, I don't think "don't knowingly and repeatedly post objective falsehoods" is a huge hurdle, but MD can't even clear that anymore. I'm all for being able to have reasonable discussions with people I disagree with, and at one time we could do that with MD, but at some point she decided for whatever reason to go full Jingo. There's no value in trying to talk with her anymore because she refuses to engage in good faith. I don't know, does this forum software support locking people out of specific folders? Because that's how we do things in another community where I'm a moderator. Our political folder is opt-in, and if someone proves that they can't play nice, they're blocked from accessing it. We even did it in a broader sense to game modders who constantly acted like absolute shitbags; they got limited to their one project folder and nothing else so the rest of us wouldn't have to keep stepping in their shit everywhere. 2 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Whats so fascinating in all of this is that the position that our politicians being bought and paid for by Big Pharma has been decidedly a left-wing position going back to at least the Obamacare debate when the public option was pulled from the bill. Not even 6 months ago it was a common talking point on the Left that Big Pharma had captured our politicians and rule making bodies. But now that bad orange man has nominated someone who absolutely threatens big pharma profits that idea is somehow a right wing conspiracy. its just fascinating to watch how the left is abandoning such long held positions simply because of bad orange man. 2 Quote
Top Gun Posted January 31 Posted January 31 Could you attempt to show at least one iota of self-awareness in here? Just one? Maybe pretend to understand what the fuck people are saying? Because at this point I can't tell if you're even literate. 1 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 (edited) Simple question then, are our politicians bought and paid for by Big Pharma? Edit: And if you think they are, is that a problem? Edited January 31 by Master-Debater131 1 Quote
Insipid Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:29 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Simple question then, are our politicians bought and paid for by Big Pharma? Edit: And if you think they are, is that a problem? Expand Yes, it's a problem, and RFK is not the solution. 5 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:18 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Whats so fascinating in all of this is that the position that our politicians being bought and paid for by Big Pharma has been decidedly a left-wing position going back to at least the Obamacare debate when the public option was pulled from the bill. Not even 6 months ago it was a common talking point on the Left that Big Pharma had captured our politicians and rule making bodies. But now that bad orange man has nominated someone who absolutely threatens big pharma profits that idea is somehow a right wing conspiracy. its just fascinating to watch how the left is abandoning such long held positions simply because of bad orange man. Expand Two things can be true at once - 1. Big Pharma’s control over healthcare by pushing profits over people has been a disaster and led to a guy being shot and the killer declared a folk hero for it. 2. A vaccine skeptic that puts his own profits over human lives belongs nowhere near the agency that coordinates responses when pandemics hit, and one we may need VERY soon if the bird flu and tuberculosis outbreaks worsen, given both are treatable (this isn’t the 1890s anymore) but not if we have some quack telling us we can’t have those tools because it hurts his worm-eaten brain. 4 4 Quote
Insipid Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 5:21 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Since people are struggling with it, heres the list of the top 20 Big Pharma politicians from 1990-2024 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=H04&recipdetail=M&sortorder=U 11 are Democrats, 2 are Independents (who caucused with Democrats), and 7 are Republicans. Harris is #1, followed by Biden, Obama, and Hillary. Romney is the first Republican on the list. Sanders is #12 on this list. Expand This is all chump change compared to Elon Musk's 250 million dollar contribution. 2 Quote
Master-Debater131 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:32 PM, Insipid said: Yes, it's a problem, and RFK is not the solution. Expand Is he perfect? No. But is he a step in teh right direction? Absolutely yes. He has stated, and stated again in his hearings, that the capture by big pharma of politicians and the FDA is a problem that absolutely needs to be addressed. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/01/30/robert_f_kennedy_jr_when_you_litigate_against_these_agencies_you_get_a_phd_in_corporate_capture.html RFK continues to ask the question "why". And just for asking that question he is treated as some sort of extremist. "Radical Transparency", as he puts it, is absolutely the best way to go. But that threatened Big Parhama and their capture of Congress and the FDA, so he must be labled an extremist to protect corporate profits. 1 3 Quote
Jman Posted January 31 Author Posted January 31 He’s just trading one corp for another. Get me someone who will guarantee access to vaccines in a pandemic so we all don’t die or have to fly to Canada or Europe to get them. That’s the bare fucking minimum I want. 4 Quote
naraku360 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/31/2025 at 9:18 PM, Master-Debater131 said: Whats so fascinating in all of this is that the position that our politicians being bought and paid for by Big Pharma has been decidedly a left-wing position going back to at least the Obamacare debate when the public option was pulled from the bill. Not even 6 months ago it was a common talking point on the Left that Big Pharma had captured our politicians and rule making bodies. But now that bad orange man has nominated someone who absolutely threatens big pharma profits that idea is somehow a right wing conspiracy. its just fascinating to watch how the left is abandoning such long held positions simply because of bad orange man. Expand Why would someone want to oppose someone for being bought by the same people they are? That's one of the dumbest arguments you've ever made, and that's quite a precedent to meet. Nobody here likes big pharma. We just think your point is fucking stupid. 2 Quote
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