Putin: "Stick to the timeline!"

[Icarus27k]

 

 

The first time I've ever seen Putin get interrupted by someone else. 

 

[tsar4]

20 minutes ago, Icarus27k said:

 

 

The first time I've ever seen Putin get interrupted by someone else. 

 

Putin looks like he's trying to figure out if he can get a twofer out the window.

[Icarus27k]

 

Ukrainian military intelligence are people I'd be slightly concerned about ever pissing off. 

[tsar4]

Waters is probably pissed...

[Icarus27k]

I got into a brief argument with someone who defended Roger Waters by saying this is really just an expression of "The Wall" and tried to imply he was an artist beyond reproach. 

I got so annoyed by this that I gave my iconoclastic opinions about lots of artists because no one is beyond reproach. It went something like:

"The Wall" is a sophomoric effort, as if a teenage songwriter just discovered Orwell. 

Stanley Kubrick films are overrated. "A Clockwork Orange" is a better poster than a movie.

"South Park" is rarely funny. 

Robert Kirkman has one readable comic, and it's not any of the popular ones.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Icarus27k

[tsar4]

I think I would have substituted "teenage songwriter" with "Holden Caufield", but that's just me.

[Sieg67]

https://news.yahoo.com/russian-spy-whale-surfaces-sweden-142935940.html

 

 

[tsar4]

"EA Sports - It's (purportedly) in the Game!"

[Seight]

1 hour ago, tsar4 said:

"EA Sports - It's (purportedly) in the Game!"

"Listen teenagers, what if RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS was real?!?"

[scoobdog]

I guess the Call of Duty folk are all tapped out?

[tsar4]

29 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

I guess the Call of Duty folk are all tapped out?

"Hey you Super Mario player, we've been noticing your skills..."

[Jman]

Possible false flag given the general reluctance to hit civilian targets.

[Master-Debater131]

Its absolutely a false flag attack. Ukraine has no incentive at all to hit civilian targets. Russia, on the other hand, has all the incentive in the world to make it look like the UA hit civilians. This screams false flag attack designed to build support before yet another mass conscription.

[Icarus27k]

 

 

Tara Reade, the person who accused Joe Biden of sexual assault in 2020. Remember those few weeks when we listened to her claim, took it seriously and investigated it. Like how normal, sane people would do? And then we determined her accusation was unlikely to be true. 

 

Well, here is Reade being much less sympathetic. 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Icarus27k

[Icarus27k]

This is a little more than just a dumb media appearance. Reade is apparently renouncing her U.S. citizenship. 

[tsar4]

9 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Its absolutely a false flag attack. Ukraine has no incentive at all to hit civilian targets. Russia, on the other hand, has all the incentive in the world to make it look like the UA hit civilians. This screams false flag attack designed to build support before yet another mass conscription.

I love that Putin is claiming that it is a "terrorist attack", while he sends wave after wave of missiles & drones into Ukraine.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, tsar4 said:

I love that Putin is claiming that it is a "terrorist attack", while he sends wave after wave of missiles & drones into Ukraine.

Obviously he's calling it that to distance it from the actual frontline, but It probably rings a whole lot more hollow now, after nearly a year of having nothing to show for the special military operation, that Muscovites have to contend with actual danger.

[Jman]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/russia-energy-gazprom-security-force-mobilization-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-2023-5?utm_source=reddit.com
 

Gazprom’s private forces were mobilized into Ukraine, another sign of a desperate shortage of trained soldiers.

[tsar4]

Ukrainian moms go into Russia to get their kidnapped special needs kids back.

"What kind of a question is that? No-one is forcing them."

[Distortedreasoning]

On 5/26/2023 at 1:52 PM, katt_goddess said:

Except NATO didn't start this except by merely existing. Ukraine floated the idea of joining NATO purely because they feared Russia was planning something and wanted to have a guarantee of help IF that happened. Meanwhile, Russia loaded up its troops at the border claiming they were totally just doing normal exercises, nothing to see here. Then, Russia invaded and started bombing the crap out of all those very bad military sites...oh wait, they bombed schools, hospitals, and shelters that specifically posted large signs that could be read from the skies that there were children present. They filled graves with civilians when they didn't just leave them to rot in the streets as they went through. Russia's claim that they didn't want NATO at their border doesn't wash since they've also since claimed that Ukraine - an independent country - was actually part of Russia all along. If they had left alone, had not lined up on the border in the first place, and had said pointblank they had zero interest in the country of Ukraine and behaved as such, there would have been very little consideration of that country joining a protective group. And now, because of their own actions, Russia lost their arbitrary NATO-free border to the north because Finland joined NATO. 

Summary: if Russia wanted to have a NATO-free border, they wouldn't have threatened and then invaded a neutral country that buffered the two. 

the "fear of russia" is nothing but bs. 

the amassing of russian forces was a response to growing nato influence. nato which is a destructive force, and not defensive at all, as seen throughout its bloody and destructive history. there are interviews of putin as late as in early 2022, stating his growing concerns with nato influence in ukraine. even figures like kissinger had said we provoked  russia with nato expansion. you mentioned russia bombing civilians, but failed to mention ukranian forces bombing east ukranians/ethnic russians in east ukraine for 8 years, which was not only genocide but also in violation of the cease fire they had with russia. from what i seen, for the most part, its  russia is doing a good job in avoiding civilians targets and concentrating on military ones. also i know there was a report from one of these human watch groups that did show ukraine was also committing war crimes by hiding military with civilian building like in schools and hospitals. but that was early on at the start of the war and havent see much since. overall i have not seen russia targeting civilians in the scale you are describing. much less than the scale shown by the west when bombing middle eastern civilians. 

 

summary, nato kept arming ukraine these past 8 years and pushed it to war with russia.

[Distortedreasoning]

On 5/30/2023 at 1:27 PM, Icarus27k said:

 

 

Tara Reade, the person who accused Joe Biden of sexual assault in 2020. Remember those few weeks when we listened to her claim, took it seriously and investigated it. Like how normal, sane people would do? And then we determined her accusation was unlikely to be true. 

 

Well, here is Reade being much less sympathetic. 

if i remember correctly, the me2 "movement" turned their back on her cuz they didnt want biden looking bad here since they couldnt risk losing to trump. that to me indicates theres probably some truth in her allegations. 

 

snowden is also i russia after he revealed the extent of government spying on its own citizens. 

 

 

 

[scoobdog]

10 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

the "fear of russia" is nothing but bs. 

the amassing of russian forces was a response to growing nato influence. nato which is a destructive force, and not defensive at all, as seen throughout its bloody and destructive history. there are interviews of putin as late as in early 2022, stating his growing concerns with nato influence in ukraine. even figures like kissinger had said we provoked  russia with nato expansion. you mentioned russia bombing civilians, but failed to mention ukranian forces bombing east ukranians/ethnic russians in east ukraine for 8 years, which was not only genocide but also in violation of the cease fire they had with russia. from what i seen, for the most part, its  russia is doing a good job in avoiding civilians targets and concentrating on military ones. also i know there was a report from one of these human watch groups that did show ukraine was also committing war crimes by hiding military with civilian building like in schools and hospitals. but that was early on at the start of the war and havent see much since. overall i have not seen russia targeting civilians in the scale you are describing. much less than the scale shown by the west when bombing middle eastern civilians. 

 

summary, nato kept arming ukraine these past 8 years and pushed it to war with russia.

So... sending missles into apartment buildings is "a good job of avoiding civilian targets?"

[stilgar]

33 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

So... sending missles into apartment buildings is "a good job of avoiding civilian targets?"

He doesn't think Ukrainians are civilians.

[scoobdog]

11 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

if i remember correctly, the me2 "movement" turned their back on her cuz they didnt want biden looking bad here since they couldnt risk losing to trump. that to me indicates theres probably some truth in her allegations. 

nowden is also i russia after he revealed the extent of government spying on its own citizens. 

You remember incorrectly.  She never provided any evidence and no one ever stepped forward to back her story up, so it predictably died in the news.  I don't think even FoxNews bothered with it after she made the initial accusation.

Snowden is a completely different thing.

[scoobdog]

41 minutes ago, stilgar said:

He doesn't think Ukrainians are civilians.

He might not even think they're human.

[discolé monade]

On 5/29/2023 at 1:12 PM, tsar4 said:

I think I would have substituted "teenage songwriter" with "Holden Caufield", but that's just me.

i felt that. 

[discolé monade]

On 5/29/2023 at 7:37 PM, scoobdog said:

I guess the Call of Duty folk are all tapped out?

 

On 5/29/2023 at 8:07 PM, tsar4 said:

"Hey you Super Mario player, we've been noticing your skills..."

 

[Master-Debater131]

On 5/22/2023 at 11:00 AM, Master-Debater131 said:

Something may be happening in Belogord. It sounds like the Freedom for Russian Legion has taken a huge chunk of the area from Russia. They are a Ukrainian allied group or Russian fighters.

Belogord is also where Russia stores some of its nuclear weapons.

Nothing is confirmed yet, but theres a ton of stuff starting to float around online supposedly showing the FRL with heavy equipment moving through Belogord.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/01/anti-putin-partisans-shell-russian-town

This isnt slowing down.  Another town was attacked by anti-Putin partisans.

[Icarus27k]

 

I know this is supposed to sound impressive, but more realistically it means "look at what we hastily managed to throw together in only a few months."

 

Expectations management is important, you guys. 

[naraku360]

On 5/21/2023 at 12:20 AM, Distortedreasoning said:

keep coping. 

The profound hypocrisy of criticizing America for their fascistic while unironically going to bat for North Korea, Russia, and China is deeply disturbing.

[Raptorpat]

https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1665443740691886080

[Icarus27k]

[Sieg67]

23 hours ago, naraku360 said:

The profound hypocrisy of criticizing America for their fascistic while unironically going to bat for North Korea, Russia, and China is deeply disturbing.

Can't help but feel like we've gone through this before.

[Raptorpat]

not really sure who did it, but it's a bfd

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1665908649485582339

[naraku360]

4 hours ago, Sieg67 said:

Can't help but feel like we've gone through this before.

We have.

[Icarus27k]

Hmmmm.....

 

 

[Distortedreasoning]

nyt- yes nazis in ukraine, but its putin propaganda. at least its better than denying it lol 

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html

[Distortedreasoning]

On 6/4/2023 at 5:06 PM, naraku360 said:

The profound hypocrisy of criticizing America for their fascistic while unironically going to bat for North Korea, Russia, and China is deeply disturbing.

your hypocrisy for not calling out your own nations fascistic actions everywhere, before you criticize those of other countries. which nation has a military presence worldwide? 

[PhilosipherStoned]

2 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

your hypocrisy for not calling out your own nations fascistic actions everywhere, before you criticize those of other countries. which nation has a military presence worldwide? 

To what historically do we owe that presence? 

[Distortedreasoning]

1 minute ago, PhilosipherStoned said:

To what historically do we owe that presence? 

ww1 and ww2. 

 

[PhilosipherStoned]

6 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

ww1 and ww2. 

 

Yes. I'd like to find ONE map.gif that kind of sums up how the Axis powers basically exploded before the allied came together in response but... it's not worth the search. Plus if you take into account a lot of the 'what would have beens' if the wars would've ended differently... I just don't get your angle I never have.  

Edited June 6, 2023 by PhilosipherStoned

[scoobdog]

3 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

ww1 and ww2. 

 

WWI did not create or spread Facism. 

[Distortedreasoning]

14 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

WWI did not create or spread Facism. 

germanys defeat in ww1 led to hitlers rise to power. also it weakened european position as top hegemon in the world. ww2 was the nail in the coffin. 

[Icarus27k]

[scoobdog]

2 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

germanys defeat in ww1 led to hitlers rise to power. also it weakened european position as top hegemon in the world. ww2 was the nail in the coffin. 

The recent rise of white nationalism in peacetime throughout the West would suggest otherwise.  Also, Hitler did not invent Facism.

[stilgar]

2 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

your hypocrisy for not calling out your own nations fascistic actions everywhere, before you criticize those of other countries. which nation has a military presence worldwide? 

Yeah, naraku has never once voiced his objection to the fascistic tendencies of the United States. Nope, not once. 

 

 

 

You fucking clown.

[naraku360]

6 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

your hypocrisy for not calling out your own nations fascistic actions everywhere, before you criticize those of other countries. which nation has a military presence worldwide? 

I don't call out America's fascistic actions?

Really?

[Master-Debater131]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nova-kakhovka-dam-kherson-region-blown-up-by-russian-forces-ukraines-military-2023-06-06/

Nova Kakhovka dam in Kherson region blown up by Russian forces - Ukraine's military

KYIV, June 6 (Reuters) - The Nova Kakhovka dam in the Russian-controlled parts of Ukraine's Kherson region was blown up by Russian forces, the South command of Ukraine's Armed Forces said on Tuesday.

"The scale of the destruction, the speed and volumes of water, and the likely areas of inundation are being clarified," the command said on its Facebook page.

 

Nothing short than the largest act of terrorism on the European continent since the shooting in Paris all those years ago. The other thing with this is that the nuclear plant just up the way draws water from this reservoir to keep its reactors cool. So this might not be done.

Edited June 6, 2023 by Master-Debater131

[Master-Debater131]

Oh, and also there is a canal leading from this reservoir that is critical for the water supply of Crimea. So Russia just cut off the single most important source of fresh water to Crimea in this move.

[Raptorpat]

Is it a guarantee they did it? I'm not sold. Neither side really has a slam-dunk benefit to do it and obviously both face horrible consequences from blowing it up.