SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Like they had in japan and china back in the day. Take all the states and let them start invading eachother. When one state takes over it annexes the losing state into itself. Keep on going until theres only one. It would be very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 very excited indeed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Keep on going until theres only one. Like America, Pre- European invasion? Actually I have no idea what Natives called this area....Something tells me no one even asked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 There were a bunch of nations that existed in north America pro-European contact. That's why they're called the First Nations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 We have mountains to the north and desert to the south, so I think we got the natural defenses thing locked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) If the conquering state(s) absorb all the conquered state's debt, being conquered would be a win for Illinois. Edit: Illinois House immediately passes "Invading Army Tax", "Battle Tax", "Land Loss Tax"... Edited May 7, 2020 by tsar4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: That's why they're called the First Nations. Is that also why people ask if "First Nations" is politically correct?.....Because that's what the indigenous people called it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 Last I was aware yeah 'first nations peoples' is the preferred phrasing. I mean that's not what they called it back then because they didn't speak english and they didn't know there's be subsequent nations... Hang on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: I mean that's not what they called it back then because they didn't speak english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 Indigenous people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Indigenous people? .... what ...Yes.....That's what we're talking about, I thought. Look, nevermind....I hate I started with my snark in the first post.....I actually like your idea and was hoping to get to that. I mean, once I hear about this, I moving 15 miles south. Texas got this shit in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 I can see Wisconsin taking the UP of Michigan, but I'm betting they come right back and squeeze us between Minnesota. Illinois would hammer us from the south pretty heavy but I think they're mainly going to be watching out for Ohio to come on in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: I can see Wisconsin taking the UP of Michigan, but I'm betting they come right back and squeeze us between Minnesota. Illinois would hammer us from the south pretty heavy but I think they're mainly going to be watching out for Ohio to come on in. Iv'e never heard of any of those places. All I know is TX. But seriously.....With a war divided America going on...Do you think Canada would finally make their move.....Like this is all they have been quietly waiting for. Edited May 7, 2020 by cyberbully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 Canada does not want us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Canada does not want us. What better way to rid themselves of us... WHAT BETTER WAY? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Y'all bitches better wait until I can escape to Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, SwimModSponges said: Indigenous people? That would mean that they occurred naturally or are native to the area. DNA testing shows they just got there first and came from Asia. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ancient-dna-reveals-complex-story-human-migration-between-siberia-and-north-america-180972356/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, tsar4 said: That would mean that they occurred naturally or are native to the area. DNA testing shows they just got there first and came from Asia. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ancient-dna-reveals-complex-story-human-migration-between-siberia-and-north-america-180972356/ So what you are saying is no one but Africans are indigenous people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, tsar4 said: That would mean that they occurred naturally or are native to the area. DNA testing shows they just got there first and came from Asia. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ancient-dna-reveals-complex-story-human-migration-between-siberia-and-north-america-180972356/ That's why currently its best practice to say "first nations". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, stilgar said: So what you are saying is no one but Africans are indigenous people. In return, I'll ask how many generations does it take to make some descendant "native"? When my folks moved to FL to take care of my Grandfather, the White locals had "Native" bumper stickers on their cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, SwimModSponges said: That's why currently its best practice to say "first nations". Maybe. There's no record (obviously) if any human creatures were displaced by the migration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 ... wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, stilgar said: So what you are saying is no one but Africans are indigenous people. That's one theory. If true, there will be traces in the DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, tsar4 said: In return, I'll ask how many generations does it take to make some descendant "native"? When my folks moved to FL to take care of my Grandfather, the White locals had "Native" bumper stickers on their cars. Whites are Europeans and are never native. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 Just now, tsar4 said: That's one hypothesis. If true, there will be traces in the DNA. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: ... wut? I think that one of the articles I read on this stuff stated that it was possible that those that migrated here encountered more primitive humans, possibly interbreeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, stilgar said: Whites are Europeans and are never native. That's my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 That sounds sort of far fetched to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, stilgar said: Fixed. I didn't say it was a "proof". Theories are still unproven, until they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, tsar4 said: That's my point. Cheddar Man, the first known human in Britain, was a black man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, tsar4 said: I didn't say it was a "proof". Theories are still unproven, until they're not. That is not what a scientific theory is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, stilgar said: That is not what a scientific theory is. Well, a theory is believed to be correct, but it is still not proven. If it was, why would scientist still be testing Einstein's theories? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 You really are packard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 minute ago, stilgar said: You really are packard. Theory - a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: Like they had in japan and china back in the day. Take all the states and let them start invading eachother. When one state takes over it annexes the losing state into itself. Keep on going until theres only one. It would be very excited. we did it call the American Civil War I don't want us to redo that now when we are nuclear-armed other country will get involved moron Edited May 7, 2020 by ghostrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Szanboti Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 5 hours ago, scoobdog said: We have mountains to the north and desert to the south, so I think we got the natural defenses thing locked up. And mountains to the east and west too! Plus we make all the war machines here. No way are the Mormons conquering us, except maybe by financial infiltration, out-breeding, and allying with the Scientologists. But once war broke out, they'd be shipped back to Utah, which they're welcome to (the Hubbardites we'd just push into the sea and let their Sea Org pick them up). New York, Ohio, Missouri, Illinois and Nebraska were all able to kick them out, so I don't think we'd have any trouble. I dunno, Texas keeps yammering on about being the Lone Star state, but California not only has one star, it says right on our flag it's a Republic. So every time some doofus pipes up with, "The US isn't a democracy, it's a republic!" I'm all, "so that means we can leave, right?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 What the fuck is going on in this thread? For the record, humans are migratory creatures: they adapt and can move to a range in a way that is not normal to any other species. However, they can belong to certain place, as the first nations people have, by adapting to their surroundings: containing disruptions to ecological systems within their immediate footprint and not using resources in a way that can cause harm to any of the native flora and fauna beyond which they can also adapt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Theory: Arkansas will take Mississippi and then get stupid drunk and think it can take Texas. Spoiler [Ron Howard voice]: It cannot take Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 6 hours ago, cyberbully said: Like America, Pre- European invasion? Actually I have no idea what Natives called this area....Something tells me no one even asked. collectively in what is now known as the u.s. there were 5 nations. and so...i think the first nations people is the preferred term. and they, the first nations, referred to the land primarily as 'mother' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gina Szanboti said: And mountains to the east and west too! Plus we make all the war machines here. No way are the Mormons conquering us, except maybe by financial infiltration, out-breeding, and allying with the Scientologists. But once war broke out, they'd be shipped back to Utah, which they're welcome to (the Hubbardites we'd just push into the sea and let their Sea Org pick them up). New York, Ohio, Missouri, Illinois and Nebraska were all able to kick them out, so I don't think we'd have any trouble. I dunno, Texas keeps yammering on about being the Lone Star state, but California not only has one star, it says right on our flag it's a Republic. So every time some doofus pipes up with, "The US isn't a democracy, it's a republic!" I'm all, "so that means we can leave, right?" All you gotta worry about is Caesar and his Legion at Hoover Dam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina Szanboti Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 We'll just blow it up and take all their water (probabaly have to get AZ in on that action though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Only if the Courier sides with you. If not you're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Idk if one state could win it all Regardless of what happening everywhere else (Texas steamrolling the midwest) I feel like naturally fortified Appalachia would be left standing unless it got nuked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapinator_X Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I call being captain of the Shinsengumi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 it's all very simple white people are European Americans black people are African Americans the people whose ancestors were here for thousands of years are Americans and Ohio wins everything in the warring states but keeps michigan around to play sports with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scoobdog Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Poof said: it's all very simple white people are European Americans black people are African Americans the people whose ancestors were here for thousands of years are Americans and Ohio wins everything in the warring states but keeps michigan around to play sports with That would be the first time Ohio wins anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, scoobdog said: That would be the first time Ohio wins anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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