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18 hours ago, Vamped said:

Forgive me for I have sinned.

 

Today ... I wished this old lady died so I dont have to sit in her house and get judged by her 3 cats

 

 

>.>

I mean ... she is on hospice so how much longer does she really have.

you are forgiven my son

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55 minutes ago, Mode 7 said:

I do!

Eh.....

For those who don't want to read, I'll put it in a spoiler. There's nothing inappropriate, but a lot of you seemed to want that thread locked / deleted, so.... Also, HUGE wall of text.

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I was fine for the first couple days, then I started having random thoughts / fantasies of her breaking it off with her fiance.... I'd have to stop myself and be like, "those are unhealthy thoughts to have.... she's not going to break it off for you, it's over, get over it." I'd sometimes randomly break into tears. I didn't understand why I was reacting this way. The only rejection that's ever hurt anywhere near this much was back in high school, and that was almost 20 years ago... Every single rejection I've received between that one and this one has basically been, "eh, at least I tried" and that was it. It doesn't make sense for me to be in love with her, because I haven't talked to her much and don't really know anything about her. It's just an infatuation and it'll go away with time, I thought. Anyway, a month went by and I hadn't made one single iota of progress getting over her. The only conclusion I can come to is I fell in love at first sight. My reaction when I first saw her was very strong and I had never had a reaction that strong to someone before or since. So now I'm like in shambles trying fruitlessly to get over her. Timing is a bitch and before I asked her out we never even once were assigned stations across from each other, and relatively soon after I asked her out we're assigned stations across from each other a few times. Even though I never stopped wanting to be around her at work, when I would pass her I would get VERY nervous, and the first time we had to work across from each other, I was literally shaking. She very obviously noticed I was very nervous and did everything she could to put me at ease by talking me to in a casual manner. Then she threw me for a huge loop and confused the ever loving fuck out of me. In our workplace, all us "longhairs" are supposed to tie our hair above our shoulders for safety reasons. So she always wears her hair in a bun, like a great deal of the other ladies there. Well, one night when we were working right across from each other, she leaves her station like 15 minutes before clock out... she returns just a couple minutes before clockout, with her hair down in a long ponytail.... She then proceeds to slowly and deliberately twirl her hair around her finger right in front of me. Now, from what I understand, a woman twirling her hair around her finger is supposed to be one of the most blatant and well known signals she is interested in someone. So this leaves me very flabbergasted about what to think and what to do. I mean it's VERY hard to come back from "I have a fiance." And to top it off I saw her at the start of shift that night with her gloves off and she was wearing her ring... Like I want to ask if she's interested in me in any way but feel way too fucking stupid to go through with it. I actually planned on doing it and if she thought I was an idiot for asking, just telling her the truth and say I thought I might be reading way too much into it but that hair twirl threw me for a loop. So I planned on talking to her the next time I saw her. She didn't show up to work that night. She didn't show up the next night either. At this point my imagination is running away with me like, "You're fucking stupid, she's gone these days because it's the holidays and she probably took the time off to get married." Then she shows up the next day and I want to talk to her about it but I chicken out. Over the course of the next couple weeks I keep chickening out, and I realize I just can't get up the nerve to ask her about it because I just feel too stupid. So I try asking one of the other women I've seen her be friendly with multiple times. That doesn't go as planned. The other girl said she didn't know who I was talking about, because she talks with a lot of people there whose names she doesn't know (that's actually plausible because a great many deal of my coworkers learned my name well before I learned theirs). I actually assumed that at least that will probably set things in motion for at least me to know what's going on, like, her approaching me like "Are you some kind of idiot of something?" but no, nothing happened. But then this past Sunday I saw the girl I talked to talking to her while I was pretty close by. I was wondering if they were talking about that, or if they had already talked about it. Anyway, at break she uses the same breakroom as I did, and she very rarely uses that breakroom. She was sitting with her friend that she often talks to (not the girl I tried getting information from). I sat with my friends a table over. Then last break I walk over to the break area and she's sitting alone (which is an extremely rare sight) basically right next to where I was sitting at first break. I decided I would wait for my friends to sit down and hope they sit there again. I went to the bathroom (which I always do first thing break starts) and when I come out, my friend is sitting near her, and I sit down across from him, and there is one open seat between me and the girl, and at this point she is sitting across from a dude and they are talking. Eventually my other friend comes and sits down between me and the girl. She and the guy seem to not have any luls in their conversation, and I look over in her direction often, maybe subconsciously trying to get her attention, I swear I see her turn at me and smile in a not just being polite way but the dude across from her keeps talking to her so she turns her attention back to him. I'm frantically trying to see if I can see if she's wearing her ring, and while we were walking back to our work stations, I thought I got a good look at her hand and she wasn't wearing her ring, and that would open the door to at least ask. But later that night I realized that if I had seen the back of her hand facing me, which is what I thought I saw, that would be a very awkward way to position one's hand while walking and probably hurt her wrist. So maybe it was the front of her hand that was facing me. And if that was the case, it would be easy to miss the ring even if she was wearing it. So now I have to assume that she was wearing it. That was this past Sunday and that was the last I saw her. 

So yeah.... I'm at a total loss.

 

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33 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

Eh.....

For those who don't want to read, I'll put it in a spoiler. There's nothing inappropriate, but a lot of you seemed to want that thread locked / deleted, so.... Also, HUGE wall of text.

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I was fine for the first couple days, then I started having random thoughts / fantasies of her breaking it off with her fiance.... I'd have to stop myself and be like, "those are unhealthy thoughts to have.... she's not going to break it off for you, it's over, get over it." I'd sometimes randomly break into tears. I didn't understand why I was reacting this way. The only rejection that's ever hurt anywhere near this much was back in high school, and that was almost 20 years ago... Every single rejection I've received between that one and this one has basically been, "eh, at least I tried" and that was it. It doesn't make sense for me to be in love with her, because I haven't talked to her much and don't really know anything about her. It's just an infatuation and it'll go away with time, I thought. Anyway, a month went by and I hadn't made one single iota of progress getting over her. The only conclusion I can come to is I fell in love at first sight. My reaction when I first saw her was very strong and I had never had a reaction that strong to someone before or since. So now I'm like in shambles trying fruitlessly to get over her. Timing is a bitch and before I asked her out we never even once were assigned stations across from each other, and relatively soon after I asked her out we're assigned stations across from each other a few times. Even though I never stopped wanting to be around her at work, when I would pass her I would get VERY nervous, and the first time we had to work across from each other, I was literally shaking. She very obviously noticed I was very nervous and did everything she could to put me at ease by talking me to in a casual manner. Then she threw me for a huge loop and confused the ever loving fuck out of me. In our workplace, all us "longhairs" are supposed to tie our hair above our shoulders for safety reasons. So she always wears her hair in a bun, like a great deal of the other ladies there. Well, one night when we were working right across from each other, she leaves her station like 15 minutes before clock out... she returns just a couple minutes before clockout, with her hair down in a long ponytail.... She then proceeds to slowly and deliberately twirl her hair around her finger right in front of me. Now, from what I understand, a woman twirling her hair around her finger is supposed to be one of the most blatant and well known signals she is interested in someone. So this leaves me very flabbergasted about what to think and what to do. I mean it's VERY hard to come back from "I have a fiance." And to top it off I saw her at the start of shift that night with her gloves off and she was wearing her ring... Like I want to ask if she's interested in me in any way but feel way too fucking stupid to go through with it. I actually planned on doing it and if she thought I was an idiot for asking, just telling her the truth and say I thought I might be reading way too much into it but that hair twirl threw me for a loop. So I planned on talking to her the next time I saw her. She didn't show up to work that night. She didn't show up the next night either. At this point my imagination is running away with me like, "You're fucking stupid, she's gone these days because it's the holidays and she probably took the time off to get married." Then she shows up the next day and I want to talk to her about it but I chicken out. Over the course of the next couple weeks I keep chickening out, and I realize I just can't get up the nerve to ask her about it because I just feel too stupid. So I try asking one of the other women I've seen her be friendly with multiple times. That doesn't go as planned. The other girl said she didn't know who I was talking about, because she talks with a lot of people there whose names she doesn't know (that's actually plausible because a great many deal of my coworkers learned my name well before I learned theirs). I actually assumed that at least that will probably set things in motion for at least me to know what's going on, like, her approaching me like "Are you some kind of idiot of something?" but no, nothing happened. But then this past Sunday I saw the girl I talked to talking to her while I was pretty close by. I was wondering if they were talking about that, or if they had already talked about it. Anyway, at break she uses the same breakroom as I did, and she very rarely uses that breakroom. She was sitting with her friend that she often talks to (not the girl I tried getting information from). I sat with my friends a table over. Then last break I walk over to the break area and she's sitting alone (which is an extremely rare sight) basically right next to where I was sitting at first break. I decided I would wait for my friends to sit down and hope they sit there again. I went to the bathroom (which I always do first thing break starts) and when I come out, my friend is sitting near her, and I sit down across from him, and there is one open seat between me and the girl, and at this point she is sitting across from a dude and they are talking. Eventually my other friend comes and sits down between me and the girl. She and the guy seem to not have any luls in their conversation, and I look over in her direction often, maybe subconsciously trying to get her attention, I swear I see her turn at me and smile in a not just being polite way but the dude across from her keeps talking to her so she turns her attention back to him. I'm frantically trying to see if I can see if she's wearing her ring, and while we were walking back to our work stations, I thought I got a good look at her hand and she wasn't wearing her ring, and that would open the door to at least ask. But later that night I realized that if I had seen the back of her hand facing me, which is what I thought I saw, that would be a very awkward way to position one's hand while walking and probably hurt her wrist. So maybe it was the front of her hand that was facing me. And if that was the case, it would be easy to miss the ring even if she was wearing it. So now I have to assume that she was wearing it. That was this past Sunday and that was the last I saw her. 

So yeah.... I'm at a total loss.

 

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Well, that was kinda hard to read and I'll be honest, abort mission. I was on your team whole heartedly when I thought she may have been single and you just needed to grow a pair, but you've done that and any further pursuit will just start to come off a desperation and possibly worse.

I understand the heart wants what it wants but this is reality and sometimes you just got to move along. I'll think more about this later and bump your old thread if you want. We have to sit through everyone else's trash, at least im invested in yours

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57 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

Eh.....

For those who don't want to read, I'll put it in a spoiler. There's nothing inappropriate, but a lot of you seemed to want that thread locked / deleted, so.... Also, HUGE wall of text.

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I was fine for the first couple days, then I started having random thoughts / fantasies of her breaking it off with her fiance.... I'd have to stop myself and be like, "those are unhealthy thoughts to have.... she's not going to break it off for you, it's over, get over it." I'd sometimes randomly break into tears. I didn't understand why I was reacting this way. The only rejection that's ever hurt anywhere near this much was back in high school, and that was almost 20 years ago... Every single rejection I've received between that one and this one has basically been, "eh, at least I tried" and that was it. It doesn't make sense for me to be in love with her, because I haven't talked to her much and don't really know anything about her. It's just an infatuation and it'll go away with time, I thought. Anyway, a month went by and I hadn't made one single iota of progress getting over her. The only conclusion I can come to is I fell in love at first sight. My reaction when I first saw her was very strong and I had never had a reaction that strong to someone before or since. So now I'm like in shambles trying fruitlessly to get over her. Timing is a bitch and before I asked her out we never even once were assigned stations across from each other, and relatively soon after I asked her out we're assigned stations across from each other a few times. Even though I never stopped wanting to be around her at work, when I would pass her I would get VERY nervous, and the first time we had to work across from each other, I was literally shaking. She very obviously noticed I was very nervous and did everything she could to put me at ease by talking me to in a casual manner. Then she threw me for a huge loop and confused the ever loving fuck out of me. In our workplace, all us "longhairs" are supposed to tie our hair above our shoulders for safety reasons. So she always wears her hair in a bun, like a great deal of the other ladies there. Well, one night when we were working right across from each other, she leaves her station like 15 minutes before clock out... she returns just a couple minutes before clockout, with her hair down in a long ponytail.... She then proceeds to slowly and deliberately twirl her hair around her finger right in front of me. Now, from what I understand, a woman twirling her hair around her finger is supposed to be one of the most blatant and well known signals she is interested in someone. So this leaves me very flabbergasted about what to think and what to do. I mean it's VERY hard to come back from "I have a fiance." And to top it off I saw her at the start of shift that night with her gloves off and she was wearing her ring... Like I want to ask if she's interested in me in any way but feel way too fucking stupid to go through with it. I actually planned on doing it and if she thought I was an idiot for asking, just telling her the truth and say I thought I might be reading way too much into it but that hair twirl threw me for a loop. So I planned on talking to her the next time I saw her. She didn't show up to work that night. She didn't show up the next night either. At this point my imagination is running away with me like, "You're fucking stupid, she's gone these days because it's the holidays and she probably took the time off to get married." Then she shows up the next day and I want to talk to her about it but I chicken out. Over the course of the next couple weeks I keep chickening out, and I realize I just can't get up the nerve to ask her about it because I just feel too stupid. So I try asking one of the other women I've seen her be friendly with multiple times. That doesn't go as planned. The other girl said she didn't know who I was talking about, because she talks with a lot of people there whose names she doesn't know (that's actually plausible because a great many deal of my coworkers learned my name well before I learned theirs). I actually assumed that at least that will probably set things in motion for at least me to know what's going on, like, her approaching me like "Are you some kind of idiot of something?" but no, nothing happened. But then this past Sunday I saw the girl I talked to talking to her while I was pretty close by. I was wondering if they were talking about that, or if they had already talked about it. Anyway, at break she uses the same breakroom as I did, and she very rarely uses that breakroom. She was sitting with her friend that she often talks to (not the girl I tried getting information from). I sat with my friends a table over. Then last break I walk over to the break area and she's sitting alone (which is an extremely rare sight) basically right next to where I was sitting at first break. I decided I would wait for my friends to sit down and hope they sit there again. I went to the bathroom (which I always do first thing break starts) and when I come out, my friend is sitting near her, and I sit down across from him, and there is one open seat between me and the girl, and at this point she is sitting across from a dude and they are talking. Eventually my other friend comes and sits down between me and the girl. She and the guy seem to not have any luls in their conversation, and I look over in her direction often, maybe subconsciously trying to get her attention, I swear I see her turn at me and smile in a not just being polite way but the dude across from her keeps talking to her so she turns her attention back to him. I'm frantically trying to see if I can see if she's wearing her ring, and while we were walking back to our work stations, I thought I got a good look at her hand and she wasn't wearing her ring, and that would open the door to at least ask. But later that night I realized that if I had seen the back of her hand facing me, which is what I thought I saw, that would be a very awkward way to position one's hand while walking and probably hurt her wrist. So maybe it was the front of her hand that was facing me. And if that was the case, it would be easy to miss the ring even if she was wearing it. So now I have to assume that she was wearing it. That was this past Sunday and that was the last I saw her. 

So yeah.... I'm at a total loss.

 

**sigh**

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7 hours ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

I really, really tried.

I'm in denial, but I know I'm in denial. It's a weird state to be in.

I hate that I'm just now seeing all of this but I agree with Buddy. This chick is screwing with you. Until she comes to you and says she's no longer engaged, leave it alone. Even if she does I would still advise against it. You don't just leave a relationship like that and get over it. Let the next guy she dates take that hit.

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On 1/29/2020 at 9:37 AM, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

Eh.....

For those who don't want to read, I'll put it in a spoiler. There's nothing inappropriate, but a lot of you seemed to want that thread locked / deleted, so.... Also, HUGE wall of text.

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I was fine for the first couple days, then I started having random thoughts / fantasies of her breaking it off with her fiance.... I'd have to stop myself and be like, "those are unhealthy thoughts to have.... she's not going to break it off for you, it's over, get over it." I'd sometimes randomly break into tears. I didn't understand why I was reacting this way. The only rejection that's ever hurt anywhere near this much was back in high school, and that was almost 20 years ago... Every single rejection I've received between that one and this one has basically been, "eh, at least I tried" and that was it. It doesn't make sense for me to be in love with her, because I haven't talked to her much and don't really know anything about her. It's just an infatuation and it'll go away with time, I thought. Anyway, a month went by and I hadn't made one single iota of progress getting over her. The only conclusion I can come to is I fell in love at first sight. My reaction when I first saw her was very strong and I had never had a reaction that strong to someone before or since. So now I'm like in shambles trying fruitlessly to get over her. Timing is a bitch and before I asked her out we never even once were assigned stations across from each other, and relatively soon after I asked her out we're assigned stations across from each other a few times. Even though I never stopped wanting to be around her at work, when I would pass her I would get VERY nervous, and the first time we had to work across from each other, I was literally shaking. She very obviously noticed I was very nervous and did everything she could to put me at ease by talking me to in a casual manner. Then she threw me for a huge loop and confused the ever loving fuck out of me. In our workplace, all us "longhairs" are supposed to tie our hair above our shoulders for safety reasons. So she always wears her hair in a bun, like a great deal of the other ladies there. Well, one night when we were working right across from each other, she leaves her station like 15 minutes before clock out... she returns just a couple minutes before clockout, with her hair down in a long ponytail.... She then proceeds to slowly and deliberately twirl her hair around her finger right in front of me. Now, from what I understand, a woman twirling her hair around her finger is supposed to be one of the most blatant and well known signals she is interested in someone. So this leaves me very flabbergasted about what to think and what to do. I mean it's VERY hard to come back from "I have a fiance." And to top it off I saw her at the start of shift that night with her gloves off and she was wearing her ring... Like I want to ask if she's interested in me in any way but feel way too fucking stupid to go through with it. I actually planned on doing it and if she thought I was an idiot for asking, just telling her the truth and say I thought I might be reading way too much into it but that hair twirl threw me for a loop. So I planned on talking to her the next time I saw her. She didn't show up to work that night. She didn't show up the next night either. At this point my imagination is running away with me like, "You're fucking stupid, she's gone these days because it's the holidays and she probably took the time off to get married." Then she shows up the next day and I want to talk to her about it but I chicken out. Over the course of the next couple weeks I keep chickening out, and I realize I just can't get up the nerve to ask her about it because I just feel too stupid. So I try asking one of the other women I've seen her be friendly with multiple times. That doesn't go as planned. The other girl said she didn't know who I was talking about, because she talks with a lot of people there whose names she doesn't know (that's actually plausible because a great many deal of my coworkers learned my name well before I learned theirs). I actually assumed that at least that will probably set things in motion for at least me to know what's going on, like, her approaching me like "Are you some kind of idiot of something?" but no, nothing happened. But then this past Sunday I saw the girl I talked to talking to her while I was pretty close by. I was wondering if they were talking about that, or if they had already talked about it. Anyway, at break she uses the same breakroom as I did, and she very rarely uses that breakroom. She was sitting with her friend that she often talks to (not the girl I tried getting information from). I sat with my friends a table over. Then last break I walk over to the break area and she's sitting alone (which is an extremely rare sight) basically right next to where I was sitting at first break. I decided I would wait for my friends to sit down and hope they sit there again. I went to the bathroom (which I always do first thing break starts) and when I come out, my friend is sitting near her, and I sit down across from him, and there is one open seat between me and the girl, and at this point she is sitting across from a dude and they are talking. Eventually my other friend comes and sits down between me and the girl. She and the guy seem to not have any luls in their conversation, and I look over in her direction often, maybe subconsciously trying to get her attention, I swear I see her turn at me and smile in a not just being polite way but the dude across from her keeps talking to her so she turns her attention back to him. I'm frantically trying to see if I can see if she's wearing her ring, and while we were walking back to our work stations, I thought I got a good look at her hand and she wasn't wearing her ring, and that would open the door to at least ask. But later that night I realized that if I had seen the back of her hand facing me, which is what I thought I saw, that would be a very awkward way to position one's hand while walking and probably hurt her wrist. So maybe it was the front of her hand that was facing me. And if that was the case, it would be easy to miss the ring even if she was wearing it. So now I have to assume that she was wearing it. That was this past Sunday and that was the last I saw her. 

So yeah.... I'm at a total loss.

 

Who wanted your thread locked?

I wouldnt read too much into a hair twirl. Sometimes I play with my hair if Im nervous and need something to do with my hands.

Dont pursue that chick further. What would her not wearing her ring at work even mean when she told you she was engaged?

Im not gonna wear my ring today because Im feeling less faithful to my partner ...?

 

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29 minutes ago, Vamped said:

Who wanted your thread locked?

I wouldnt read too much into a hair twirl. Sometimes I play with my hair if Im nervous and need something to do with my hands.

Dont pursue that chick further. What would her not wearing her ring at work even mean when she told you she was engaged?

Im not gonna wear my ring today because Im feeling less faithful to my partner ...?

 

I hate to say this but I really think he has convinced himself of these very things.  Like he knows it's far fetched, but how can he just ignore it.  It could be nothing, but what if its EVERYTHING.  

And I only say this because I used to think crazy things like that....Granted, I was like 14 years old and grew out of that way too long ago but wanted this girl to like me.....I would take certain things like "OMG, she sat right in front of me at the pep rally" to mean she wanted to show her affection, when if I really thought about it....She wasn't sitting in front of me, but behind her friend so they could talk during it.

Or completely misinterpret when I asked another kid if I could have his juice, and he said nah but she looks and smiles and says I'm not gonna drink mine and goes and puts her tray up.....Was this the sign, or was she just not thirsty and was just being nice.....But it was easy to misread shit because that's what you wanted it to be.  Soon after, I got my own gf and never thought about her again.....Well, sometimes but not enough to worry about it.

The fact that he's older and still thinks this was isn't too strange since it's obvious his social anxiety has never let him grow out of that place.  But it's less cute in your 30s (sorry dude, I'm not trying to rail on you, I'm honestly on your side).  The funny thing is, and I will always be a firm believer in this because I've seen it happen too many times.  For every awkward dude, losing his mind, infatuated with a girl he can't have....There is an awkward girl, trying to get his attention that he just can't see because he's blinded by an irrational desire.  

Doomer, I don't remember your other thread's name....Bump it so we can stop derailing this one, bro.

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3 minutes ago, cyberbully said:

I hate to say this but I really think he has convinced himself of these very things.  Like he knows it's far fetched, but how can he just ignore it.  It could be nothing, but what if its EVERYTHING.  

And I only say this because I used to think crazy things like that....Granted, I was like 14 years old and grew out of that way too long ago but wanted this girl to like me.....I would take certain things like "OMG, she sat right in front of me at the pep rally" to mean she wanted to show her affection, when if I really thought about it....She wasn't sitting in front of me, but behind her friend so they could talk during it.

Or completely misinterpret when I asked another kid if I could have his juice, and he said nah but she looks and smiles and says I'm not gonna drink mine and goes and puts her tray up.....Was this the sign, or was she just not thirsty and was just being nice.....But it was easy to misread shit because that's what you wanted it to be.  Soon after, I got my own gf and never thought about her again.....Well, sometimes but not enough to worry about it.

The fact that he's older and still thinks this was isn't too strange since it's obvious his social anxiety has never let him grow out of that place.  But it's less cute in your 30s (sorry dude, I'm not trying to rail on you, I'm honestly on your side).  The funny thing is, and I will always be a firm believer in this because I've seen it happen too many times.  For every awkward dude, losing his mind, infatuated with a girl he can't have....There is an awkward girl, trying to get his attention that he just can't see because he's blinded by an irrational desire.  

Doomer, I don't remember your other thread's name....Bump it so we can stop derailing this one, bro.

I called it "A loser in love asking for your advice" or something similar.

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One of my bosses is being a absolute baby about this coronavirus shit and he keeps making pot shots at me...I told him that in numbers alone the flu is deadlier and US spread is slow and methods are being (somewhat) taken to help contain the infection within our own borders...therefore at this time I really don’t care....so at any opportunity he will be talking about the virus and say “but that’s ok, Stillz doesn’t care”. 
 

the last time he did it I flipped out  and told him to stop because it’s not gonna guilt me into his way of thinking...and then this mother fucker proceeded to say “you trust the Chinese government? You trust our own government?” To which I follow up with a “fuck no I don’t, but I am only responsible for myself and I trust myself...therefore Shut the fuck up”.

 

 

ill care when we hit aids level of infection...

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So are we moving advice to that thread or is this thread still good?

Doom:  infatuation is not abnormal when you've set up that girl as a goal.  You obviously recognize that it's unhealthy so what's left isn't really about love as much as is about defining your self worth after failing.  What you need to do is set a new goal that doesn't involve getting in a relationship.  Start looking for people who do things that interest you (like going to metal concerts) and focus just on building camaraderie with them.  You feel this way because you need someone to validate you.

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20 hours ago, scoobdog said:

So are we moving advice to that thread or is this thread still good?

Doom:  infatuation is not abnormal when you've set up that girl as a goal.  You obviously recognize that it's unhealthy so what's left isn't really about love as much as is about defining your self worth after failing.  What you need to do is set a new goal that doesn't involve getting in a relationship.  Start looking for people who do things that interest you (like going to metal concerts) and focus just on building camaraderie with them.  You feel this way because you need someone to validate you.

I'm already in a band and have a D&D group. Lack of friends and things to do isn't the problem. I already have the goal in mind to make an album with my band, which we are slowly but surely progressing on regularly.

I really don't think the problem is lack of self-worth. Since last year continuing to the present I'm doing much better in my life than I have in the entirety of my adulthood prior, and I still feel this way. Life is good all things considering, 

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Self-worth isn't black and white.  Just because you don't always appreciate your own worth and your own contribution to your family and community, doesn't mean you feel completely worthless.  In fact, no one ever really appreciates their own worth to the fullest - at some point we all need someone else to tell us what we mean to them.  In this case, though, you're clearly expecting this girl to validate you in some way, whether to acknowledge your crush on her or just to acknowledge that she has no feelings for you.  You keep putting yourself in positions where she might do either and that creates this endless loop of infatuation that keeps you from moving on.

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I used to think that I was comfortable in my own skin. Over the last week, I realized that I was just lying to myself. I'm not.

I've mostly gotten past a phase where I did nothing but criticize my appearance, the way my voice sounds, and my mannerisms. However, I still don't feel like my age (28). I feel like a kid stuck in a body that doesn't even look like the body of a true adult. This isn't helped when I'm called "kid" by people who are younger than myself, but actually look their age.

This is something I'd like to shake off, but I don't know how to do that.

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