Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 now i'm not a smoker and never have been and i think smoke is fucking disgusting. and i understand why they're doing this, but this is dumb. either raise the draft age and age of legal adulthood to 21 or let people make dumb decisions. stop trying to nanny everyone, jesus.
BlackNoir Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 now i'm not a smoker and never have been and i think smoke is fucking disgusting. and i understand why they're doing this, but this is dumb. either raise the draft age and age of legal adulthood to 21 or let people make dumb decisions. stop trying to nanny everyone, jesus. Masturbation age raised to 30.
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 if you're a man of a certain age, masturbation age marks when you find a Playboy in the woods. if you're not, like me, it's when you go on Newgrounds and find the smutty flash games when you're 14
molarbear Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 is it just buying or is it usage too? Complete Bullshit imo they're trying to pass a law here that would make it illegal to smoke on city property... anywhere on city property, which means if you want to smoke on the sidewalk in front of your house you're shit out of luck
Sawdamizer Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Well, don't you also think then that if someone can go and defend his/her country and witness the tragedies of war at 18, that they should be able to drink at 18? I get what you are saying though, and Christies quote is just straight up retarded, "By raising the minimum age to purchase tobacco products to 21, we are giving young people more time to develop a maturity and better understanding of how dangerous smoking can be and that it is better to not start smoking in the first place," Christie wrote. They are citing the strain on the healthcare system that smoking causes, but it's amazing that they still won't even try and address PTSD appropriately.
nameraka Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 now i'm not a smoker and never have been and i think smoke is fucking disgusting. and i understand why they're doing this, but this is dumb. either raise the draft age and age of legal adulthood to 21 or let people make dumb decisions. stop trying to nanny everyone, jesus. agreed. smoking is dumb. social engineering is dumb and contrary to the core philosophies on which this nation was founded.
Azalar Hex Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Like any kid who smokes ever waited until they were legal age to start smoking. Its just like the masturbation stuff, but with more oral.
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Like any kid who smokes ever waited until they were legal age to start smoking. Well to be fair, there are an awful lot of 18 year olds in high school. These 18 year olds can easily provide cigarettes for their younger teen friends/classmates if they wish. Raising the age to 21 I think would make it a lot harder for high schoolers to have access to cigarettes for this reason.
André Toulon Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Like any kid who smokes ever waited until they were legal age to start smoking. Its just like the masturbation stuff, but with more oral. Not very often, but my homeboy is and odd case......Dude didn't smoke all his life and picked it up at 28 years old......I just looked at him like he's retarded.
Codename: Jackass Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 now i'm not a smoker and never have been and i think smoke is fucking disgusting. and i understand why they're doing this, but this is dumb. either raise the draft age and age of legal adulthood to 21 or let people make dumb decisions. stop trying to nanny everyone, jesus. we get it you vape
Phillies Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 if you're a man of a certain age, masturbation age marks when you find a Playboy in the woods. if you're not, like me, it's when you go on Newgrounds and find the smutty flash games when you're 14 and the Kagome hentai.
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 Well, don't you also think then that if someone can go and defend his/her country and witness the tragedies of war at 18, that they should be able to drink at 18? I get what you are saying though, and Christies quote is just straight up retarded, "By raising the minimum age to purchase tobacco products to 21, we are giving young people more time to develop a maturity and better understanding of how dangerous smoking can be and that it is better to not start smoking in the first place," Christie wrote. They are citing the strain on the healthcare system that smoking causes, but it's amazing that they still won't even try and address PTSD appropriately. i did say to raise the draft age to 21 also so i don't completely sound like a hypocrite because i do think drinking should stay at 21. you can kill people if you drive and drink way too much, you're not going to kill anyone but yourself if you drive and smoke too much
Sawdamizer Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 18 is fine to serve in the military, it gives an opportunity to subsidize higher learning with the GI bill. Also, the draft isn't coming back, lol. Anyways, their reasoning is silly.
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 18 is fine to serve in the military, it gives an opportunity to subsidize higher learning with the GI bill. Also, the draft isn't coming back, lol. Anyways, their reasoning is silly. people have to be allowed to make some dumb decisions in life. the people who smoke know the risks. if an 18 year old doesn't care then let him do it. not every 18 year old is dumb enough to pick up smoking just because their friends do it
Sawdamizer Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 I never smoked, though all my friends did. Just always found the smell disgusting.
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 i was just never interested and being allergic to smoke also helps
NaBarney Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Well, don't you also think then that if someone can go and defend his/her country and witness the tragedies of war at 18, that they should be able to drink at 18? I get what you are saying though, and Christies quote is just straight up retarded, "By raising the minimum age to purchase tobacco products to 21, we are giving young people more time to develop a maturity and better understanding of how dangerous smoking can be and that it is better to not start smoking in the first place," Christie wrote. They are citing the strain on the healthcare system that smoking causes, but it's amazing that they still won't even try and address PTSD appropriately. A man who weighs 300 pounds is lecturing people on the strain their personal decisions put on the healthcare system?
Sawdamizer Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Funny part is that he constantly tries to remind people that he was a star baseball athlete growing up... like, what the fuck happened?!
NaBarney Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 If only there had been a law limiting what he could ingest, he might have gone pro instead of becoming a politician and we'd all be winners.
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 do they though? that'll work about as well as banning weed. people are going to do it anyway
1938 Packard Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 now i'm not a smoker and never have been and i think smoke is fucking disgusting. and i understand why they're doing this, but this is dumb. either raise the draft age and age of legal adulthood to 21 or let people make dumb decisions. stop trying to nanny everyone, jesus. That's right. When somebody is old enough to sign legal contracts, sign lease agreements, be tried as an adult in court, get drafted, etc. , why isn't that person old enough to smoke, drink or watch porn? Especially porn... at age eighteen, they are not old enough to buy the very same porn that they starred in?
lupin_bebop Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Welcome to America, where the adults are made up and ages barely matter
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 not exactly like we had a choice. Corzine was just as big as a piece of shit as Christie is. i did vote for Corzine when he ran against Christie but by the second time Christie ran i no longer lived there
Sandstone Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 I think preoccupation with determining what people can and can not put in to their own bodies is nonsense, and a wate of time. Raising age of smoking while we have youths dieing of heroine overdose on the strests every dat says alot about American priorities. Far too much emphasis on curtailing liberties to treat symptoms of an underlying problem. I do think that this is another example of selective age group designations. Eighteen and can't smoke or drink, but can go to war and be prosecuted as an adult? It's so easy for our legal system to just pick a standardized age for no aparent reason, or scientific reason. However, the other side of this is that I think it is reasonable to say that people that knowingly engage in hugh risk factor behaviors should not be insured against any related problems that are a direct result of that behavior. There is only so much social and medical resources available in any given economy or nation. I really wish there was more, but this is reality. People should be clearly warned when buying substances that are direct causes of cancer and disease, and should sign a waver of the right to seek treatment for free from public funds. My whole philosophy on pretty much everything these days is that, behaviors and actions which have significant and direct impact on other people's rights, health, or finances is the line at whichurch the party in question's rights end and other's rights begin. This is imo the best philosophy on life, but is not lerfect. It is simply the most reasonable, logical, and equitable outlook on what personal liberty should mean as we move deeper into the 8th millennium of human history.
Naraku4656 Posted July 22, 2017 Author Posted July 22, 2017 people are probably just going to go to philly or ny to buy them but still why
Chapinator_X Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 In a week, paparazzi will snap a photo of Christie lighting a cigarette for an 18 year old relative.
NaBarney Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 This will decrease the amount of teenage smokers. Raising the legal age and price of smoking has shown to decrease the smoking rate of teenagers. Raising the age/price isn't intended to get people to quit smoking (although a decent amount will) but to stop people from ever starting in the first place. Smoking is a public health issue and decreasing the amount of smoking among a population is nothing but a positive. Let's make sugary caffeinated beverages 21+ too
fuggnificent Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 who gave jr a cigarette? http://www.trueactivist.com/its-been-8-years-this-is-what-the-indonesian-smoking-baby-looks-like-today/
Misaka Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Lol new Jersey Why do people care about that shitty of a state?
Rogue_Alphonse Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 now i'm not a smoker and never have been and i think smoke is fucking disgusting. and i understand why they're doing this, but this is dumb. either raise the draft age and age of legal adulthood to 21 or let people make dumb decisions. stop trying to nanny everyone, jesus. Next thing you know, the drinking age will be bumped up to 25 or some shit
Rogue_Alphonse Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Why do people care about that shitty of a state?
StarPanda Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 Why do people care about that shitty of a state? We need to give it back to The British government
Rogue_Alphonse Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 people are probably just going to go to philly or ny to buy them but still why he tax on cigs in Philly is nuts... like $8 for a pack of Newports. But they can easily cross the line to Bucks and pay $5...
Naraku4656 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Posted July 24, 2017 i meant delaware, don't know why i brain farted to Philly
Phillies Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 he tax on cigs in Philly is nuts... like $8 for a pack of Newports. But they can easily cross the line to Bucks and pay $5... So a pack of ports costs 20 bucks now?
Naraku4656 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Posted July 24, 2017 Next thing you know, the drinking age will be bumped up to 25 or some shit i've actually heard that being discussed too. but that would be a really bad idea
Naraku4656 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Posted July 24, 2017 Why do people care about that shitty of a state? beaches (when Christie's fat ass doesn't close them), diners, way cheaper than the city and right next to it, great food. there's lots of things to like about it
Rogue_Alphonse Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 i've actually heard that being discussed too. but that would be a really bad idea legit 0 friends I have had over the years waited until they were 21 to actually drink.
Rogue_Alphonse Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 beaches (when Christie's fat ass doesn't close them), diners, way cheaper than the city and right next to it, great food. there's lots of things to like about it Not ALL of Jersey is right next to Philly or NYC... and those areas smell like garbage.
Naraku4656 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Posted July 24, 2017 Not ALL of Jersey is right next to Philly or NYC... and those areas smell like garbage. the hell are you talking about? i will admit that Elizabeth is a dump. other than that, there's a lot of nature and great places to picnic. there's a reason it's called the Garden State
Naraku4656 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Posted July 24, 2017 legit 0 friends I have had over the years waited until they were 21 to actually drink. i know people who waited until 21 to buy a drink, but not until 21 to have one
Misaka Posted July 24, 2017 Posted July 24, 2017 beaches (when Christie's fat ass doesn't close them), diners, way cheaper than the city and right next to it, great food. there's lots of things to like about it Occasional hurricane that causes millions of damage?
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