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Just now, Top Gun said:

She's such a pathetic fucking sycophant. Also I'm assuming a huge masochist considering she seems to get off on us telling her to fuck off.

self loathing hypocrite with deep rooted personal self hatred for what they are and what they became. 

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Rep Al Green getting thrown out and not a single other Democrat sticking up for him was such bullshit.  Him getting thrown out was a fuckin joke. Remember Boebert and MTG being assholes during the Biden SOTU?

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4 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

Rep Al Green getting thrown out and not a single other Democrat sticking up for him was such bullshit.  Him getting thrown out was a fuckin joke. Remember Boebert and MTG being assholes during the Biden SOTU?

To me I see this as the difference between a group that has those that act upon what they individually believe is the best thing to do, and one that all receives their marching orders from the same place, reads from the same script, and repeats the same talking points ad nauseum like a bunch of mindless stormtroopers for fear of falling out of step with the group and being drummed out.

Would it have been better optics for the other democrats to back him up and all walk out together? Of course, but would it really make any difference in the grand scheme of things? Would it really change a single person's mind? C'mon. Democrats are disorganized by nature, and realistically no matter what they do in congress it's not gonna change anything. Any real resistance that has the chance to stop any of what's been going on is going to have to come from the public ultimately.

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12 minutes ago, Dark_Cloud_Overhead said:

Would it have been better optics for the other democrats to back him up and all walk out together? Of course, but would it really make any difference in the grand scheme of things? Would it really change a single person's mind? C'mon. Democrats are disorganized by nature, and realistically no matter what they do in congress it's not gonna change anything. Any real resistance that has the chance to stop any of what's been going on is going to have to come from the public ultimately.

But, that's the thing. What motivation does the public have to rally if their elected leaders can't demonstrate any capability? And, more importantly, what motivation do the voters have to keep electing them if they can't at least try to act like they're trying?

Whether or not anything gets done is almost irrelevant. They really, really need to show their base that they're not just the "bend over and take it" party. Because right now, the message they're sending is "why bother voting for anybody?"

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55 minutes ago, Dark_Cloud_Overhead said:

To me I see this as the difference between a group that has those that act upon what they individually believe is the best thing to do, and one that all receives their marching orders from the same place, reads from the same script, and repeats the same talking points ad nauseum like a bunch of mindless stormtroopers for fear of falling out of step with the group and being drummed out.

Would it have been better optics for the other democrats to back him up and all walk out together? Of course, but would it really make any difference in the grand scheme of things? Would it really change a single person's mind? C'mon. Democrats are disorganized by nature, and realistically no matter what they do in congress it's not gonna change anything. Any real resistance that has the chance to stop any of what's been going on is going to have to come from the public ultimately.

I agree to an extent.  There is nothing Democrats should have done at the SOTU except maybe walking out, and nothing they could do would have served any purpose served any purpose.  That being said, they can and should do something by obstructing government operations.  They should not vote for any budgets.  They should not vote for any of his nominees (FUCK YOU FETTERMAN).  They should not attend any special sessions.  They should openly refute any and all of his policies.  I don't take this statement lightly, but not participating in his schemes is the only way for anything to happen.

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I'm cautiously optimistic about this. Republican congressmen have had bad town halls and are now being told to not hold them antmore. An opportunity for Democrats. They really have to stop the half-ass measures too.

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10 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

 

 

This was such a great moment last night.

Imagine not cheering for this.

Imagine being used as yet another prop in order to prop up an actual petulant child who never served, called soldiers losers and suckers, who put an active drunk talking head from his favorite tv channel in charge of the military and has since taken credit for all the cuts in funding and personal to the VA that are totally making things better for veterans [ /s ]. 

I don't recall you calling out your own when they would actually scream things at the president during the SotU. He should have been booed so loudly from the start that all he could have done was wander away for pudding time. He wants ass kissing, he deserves an ass kicking.  

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3 hours ago, rpgamer said:

But, that's the thing. What motivation does the public have to rally if their elected leaders can't demonstrate any capability? And, more importantly, what motivation do the voters have to keep electing them if they can't at least try to act like they're trying?

Whether or not anything gets done is almost irrelevant. They really, really need to show their base that they're not just the "bend over and take it" party. Because right now, the message they're sending is "why bother voting for anybody?"

They've got plenty of motivation. There's the coming economic pain we're all likely to be feeling pretty soon, and the motivation to not live under a dictatorship any longer. What a congressperson chooses to do at what's become a totally meaningless event, I can't imagine that really is gonna motivate anyone.

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2 hours ago, scoobdog said:

I agree to an extent.  There is nothing Democrats should have done at the SOTU except maybe walking out, and nothing they could do would have served any purpose served any purpose.  That being said, they can and should do something by obstructing government operations.  They should not vote for any budgets.  They should not vote for any of his nominees (FUCK YOU FETTERMAN).  They should not attend any special sessions.  They should openly refute any and all of his policies.  I don't take this statement lightly, but not participating in his schemes is the only way for anything to happen.

I don't think they should have bothered to show up in the first place. You know it's gonna be just a toxic lie fest, so what's the point? But again, don't really think it matters. It's all the other stuff that does. That's where they need to get their act together and make a solid stand. I agree with you 100% on that.

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On 3/5/2025 at 11:00 AM, Raptorpat said:

The people who dont like him didn't watch, of course the response was positive.

Seriously, who watches 100 minutes of anyone talking without being a cult member or a superfan?

If you've ever read Rape of the Mind by Joost Meerloo, he talks about how leaders using longwinded speeches are using a form of sledgehammer to break mental resistance as well as re-enforce loyalty. It's something leaders like Hitler and Stalin did but its especially a thing with the North Koreans who've built a state centered around a cult of personality, which I think is what Trump truly desires.

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Many people are hypnophiles, anxious to daydream and day-sleep throughout their lives; these people easily fall prey to mass suggestion. The lengthy oration or the boring sermon either weakens the listeners and makes them more ripe for the mass spell, or makes them more resentful and rebellious. Long speeches are a staple of totalitarian indoctrination because finally the boredom breaks through our defences. We give in. Hitler used this technique of mass hypnosis through monotony to enormous advantage. He spoke endlessly and included long, dull recitals of statistics in his speeches.

-- Rape of the Mind, pg. 110

 

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Trump changes course, delays tariffs on most imports from Mexico until April

::rubs neck:: Anyone else feeling a little whiplash? This whole tariff thing has just become a big joke. Nay, it probably always was. I was thinking this all might be intended to create chaos in the markets and open up opportunities for people in the circle around him to make a big grift off the ups and downs, but it just seems so haphazard that it's probably too generous to ascribe any kind of rational thought to what's more likely just pure buffoonery.

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17 minutes ago, Dark_Cloud_Overhead said:

Trump changes course, delays tariffs on most imports from Mexico until April

::rubs neck:: Anyone else feeling a little whiplash? This whole tariff thing has just become a big joke. Nay, it probably always was. I was thinking this all might be intended to create chaos in the markets and open up opportunities for people in the circle around him to make a big grift off the ups and downs, but it just seems so haphazard that it's probably too generous to ascribe any kind of rational thought to what's more likely just pure buffoonery.

Trump seems to get fixated on things and unable to let them go. It's like they take over his mind, like fentanyl, tariffs and Greenland. If he had any sort of strategy, he would've been trying to find a way to pull the wool over everyone's eyes on Social Security and Medicaid. He didn't do that, he just kept pressing with his obsessions. The only thing that seems to have made him stagger on tariffs is the stock market, which he seems even more obsessed with as it is his personal barometer of how well he is doing.

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31 minutes ago, _lost_username_ said:

Trump seems to get fixated on things and unable to let them go. It's like they take over his mind, like fentanyl, tariffs and Greenland. If he had any sort of strategy, he would've been trying to find a way to pull the wool over everyone's eyes on Social Security and Medicaid. He didn't do that, he just kept pressing with his obsessions. The only thing that seems to have made him stagger on tariffs is the stock market, which he seems even more obsessed with as it is his personal barometer of how well he is doing.

Isn't it lovely being trapped by the whims of the world's most powerful retard?

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1 hour ago, Raptorpat said:

Is this clarification a resolution to some of the court cases where no one knows who heads DOGE?  It’s still ambiguous to me cuz on one side of his face Trump says to his Cabinet, keep whoever you need, but out the other says, make cuts and if you can’t make cuts,  Musk will make the cuts.  

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28 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Is this clarification a resolution to some of the court cases where no one knows who heads DOGE?  It’s still ambiguous to me cuz on one side of his face Trump says to his Cabinet, keep whoever you need, but out the other says, make cuts and if you can’t make cuts,  Musk will make the cuts.  

There is a constitutional question - if he has that degree of power, he should probably be Senate-confirmed.

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1 hour ago, tsar4 said:

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I doubt anyone is really surprised by this since the last time he was on tv, he was telling people to just take vitamin A and castor oil and the symptoms 'wouldn't be that bad'.

You know, as opposed to being vaccinated and not getting the damn measles in the first place. 

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