Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 We have the name of the victim of the assassination attempt. Just gut wrenching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Authorities are investigating "suspicious devices" found in gunman's car. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Authorities are investigating "suspicious devices" found in gunman's car. Supposedly they found bombs in the car, and bomb making materials in his room at his house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The Gov of PA juts spoke. I can see why he is so popular. That was the exact right thing to say at that moment. If I can find a clip of it Ill post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 15 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Its the false flag idea BlueAnanon is passing this around right now online. The shooter was actually a right-wing maniac who wanted to inspire a general uprising to take out liberals. Its some wild conspiracy theory stuff. Well, he was a registered Republican. If he was a Democrat, yeah, at that point the left looks like unhinged lunatics, but the opposite happened. Everyone looks like an unhinged lunatic (because of Trump's rhetoric, but that's neither here nor there). Either way the guy was insane. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 It’s not even a real assassination attempt if that shit was just glass. Just a crazy white boy shooting that clipped non dictators. Better not brag about a bullet not grazing his ear. Might as well have tickled the tip of his nose with a table cloth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 All this discussion of Trump suddenly becoming the front runner is dependent on Trump becoming sympathetic to voters that oppose him. Assassination attempts are most often used successfully as part of an image makeover, and they work by boosting the profile of a candidate who is lackluster or people know little about. Trump is not only a well known, he’s polarizing. Chances are, his speech on this event next week will not only ignore the fact that the shooter had no known ideology, they’ll lean into the same obscure narrative of Trump Derangement Syndrome by generic leftists that he’s pushed ad nauseam for the better part of four years. His policy platform won’t change. He won’t suddenly become an empathetic likable figure who’s misunderstood. All this is to say he has nobody to galvanize. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, scoobdog said: All this discussion of Trump suddenly becoming the front runner is dependent on Trump becoming sympathetic to voters that oppose him. Assassination attempts are most often used successfully as part of an image makeover, and they work by boosting the profile of a candidate who is lackluster or people know little about. Trump is not only a well known, he’s polarizing. Chances are, his speech on this event next week will not only ignore the fact that the shooter had no known ideology, they’ll lean into the same obscure narrative of Trump Derangement Syndrome by generic leftists that he’s pushed ad nauseam for the better part of four years. His policy platform won’t change. He won’t suddenly become an empathetic likable figure who’s misunderstood. All this is to say he has nobody to galvanize. That and people will blame him as being the cause of the galvanization. It's only going to get harder to get away from if there is retaliation. "Yeah, you did that with your rhetoric, and you created the circumstances. You can't cry about being a victim of them." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Jman said: Well, he was a registered Republican. If he was a Democrat, yeah, at that point the left looks like unhinged lunatics, but the opposite happened. Everyone looks like an unhinged lunatic (because of Trump's rhetoric, but that's neither here nor there). Either way the guy was insane. He was a registered republican who apparently donated to ActBlue and another progressive org, and org whos goal was to get progressives to register republican and vote against Trump in the primary. So its a little hard to say if he was actually a republican or not. He was registered as one, but his donations question that. Theres a lot of people who are registered Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries (Im one of them). His actual motives, if they are ever found and released, are going to be interesting. Occams Razor would say he was just an absolute lunatic. Remember the motives of Reagans and Lennons shooters were not political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 Trump’s narcissistic personality saved his ass. He took that moment to take a slight step and turned his head to look at himself on the Jumbotron. Had he not done that. He’d be dead. Now no one will be able to get near him ever again 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: He was a registered republican who apparently donated to ActBlue and another progressive org, and org whos goal was to get progressives to register republican and vote against Trump in the primary. So its a little hard to say if he was actually a republican or not. He was registered as one, but his donations question that. Theres a lot of people who are registered Republican to vote against Trump in the primaries (Im one of them). His actual motives, if they are ever found and released, are going to be interesting. Occams Razor would say he was just an absolute lunatic. Remember the motives of Reagans and Lennons shooters were not political. I have just seen the ActBlue donation. Where is the evidence for the other one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 14 Author Share Posted July 14 Does it show when he made the donation to act blue? I’m really curious if he was trying to set things up to make himself look like a republican turned progressive to start some shit. This kid meant to kill Trump. Had he not turned when he did he’d be less a face. People are calling for the head of the secret service to resign cuz supposedly people were telling the cops “hey there’s someone bear crawling on that building over there” but they responded quickly. A secret service sniper blew his head off so idk to me they did their job. Kinda in a way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, 1pooh4u said: Does it show when he made the donation to act blue? I’m really curious if he was trying to set things up to make himself look like a republican turned progressive to start some shit. This kid meant to kill Trump. Had he not turned when he did he’d be less a face. People are calling for the head of the secret service to resign cuz supposedly people were telling the cops “hey there’s someone bear crawling on that building over there” but they responded quickly. A secret service sniper blew his head off so idk to me they did their job. Kinda in a way Yes actually. He made the donation in 2020 and then registered GOP in 2021. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jman said: Yes actually. He made the donation in 2020 and then registered GOP in 2021. Actually he made the donation in January 2021 when Biden was inaugurated then when he turned 18 that Fall he registered Republican Edited July 14 by matrixman124 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, Jman said: Yes actually. He made the donation in 2020 and then registered GOP in 2021. I saw pics of the shirt he was wearing that may be from a gun enthusiast on youtube. That youtube rabbit hole be something. I see more and more folks looking for ways to talk to family members who go through some ugly changes after delving into weird shit on youtube and it doesn't even take a year to happen. People are still responsible for their own actions, but social media and video sites focus on riling people up and feeding them harmful content for clicks. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, André Toulon said: Phase 3 of project 2025 was a success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Despite everything, it's not time to throw in the towel. Teddy Roosevelt survived an assassination attempt during his presidential campaign and ultimately lost. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Theodore_Roosevelt Vote. Edited July 14 by Insipid 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: Trump’s narcissistic personality saved his ass. He took that moment to take a slight step and turned his head to look at himself on the Jumbotron. Had he not done that. He’d be dead. Now no one will be able to get near him ever again the first video out, you can hear someone in his detail, while down say 'his hair, his hair' 'on the ready'. etc etc. now, you will see that the video on every outlet, has been modified. *dons tinfoil chapeau* there are things afoot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Oh, how interesting . . . that attempted assassination of Teddy Roosevelt happened in Milwaukee, where Trump will be tomorrow. Kinda wanna throw these tidbits out in the open and see what the conspiracy theories cook up. Maybe mention Jeffrey Dahmer too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: Does it show when he made the donation to act blue? I’m really curious if he was trying to set things up to make himself look like a republican turned progressive to start some shit. This kid meant to kill Trump. Had he not turned when he did he’d be less a face. People are calling for the head of the secret service to resign cuz supposedly people were telling the cops “hey there’s someone bear crawling on that building over there” but they responded quickly. A secret service sniper blew his head off so idk to me they did their job. Kinda in a way The Secret Service did the best job anyone could do in the situation. The kind of audience Trump plays to and surrounds himself with are the very ones endangering him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 how about that crowd behind him though. no one took cover? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, discolé monade said: the first video out, you can hear someone in his detail, while down say 'his hair, his hair' 'on the ready'. etc etc. now, you will see that the video on every outlet, has been modified. *dons tinfoil chapeau* there are things afoot. "Make sure his hair is still on before he gets up" lol I'll choose the conspiracy of "secret service was kinda lax cuz they're tired of being assigned to the lump." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 21 minutes ago, rpgamer said: "Make sure his hair is still on before he gets up" lol I'll choose the conspiracy of "secret service was kinda lax cuz they're tired of being assigned to the lump." *sniper misses* Secret service: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 29 minutes ago, rpgamer said: "Make sure his hair is still on before he gets up" lol I'll choose the conspiracy of "secret service was kinda lax cuz they're tired of being assigned to the lump." well....if you noticed, his usual side swipe was amiss, and falling straight down, like some cat from japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 19 minutes ago, discolé monade said: how about that crowd behind him though. no one took cover? That shit is still wild to me. I've never seen a large group respond to shots like that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 9 minutes ago, DragonSinger said: That shit is still wild to me. I've never seen a large group NOT respond to shots like that. fixed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Initially people thought it was just fireworks going off until Dumpster dropped and then people started screaming while the secret service started swarming. So, don't let any of the so-called hero interviews on Faux Noise fool you*, they didn't duck because they didn't know that's what they needed to do. * there are some people claiming that they didn't duck because they were there to 'protect the president'. After the fact. Reality is they didn't register it was gunshots. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) What's wild is that the shooter was spotted, a cop confronted him on the roof of the building and he backed off when the gunman threatened him, allowing the guy to pull off 8 shots before the Secret Service got him. Incompetence all around Edited July 14 by matrixman124 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 45 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: What's wild is that the shooter was spotted, a cop confronted him on the roof of the building and he backed off when the gunman threatened him, allowing the guy to pull off 8 shots before the Secret Service got him. Incompetence all around I saw that Trump wasn't hit by a bullet, but by shards of busted plexiglass from the teleprompter screen..."alert secret service agents wrestled the teleprompter stand to the ground." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) The mother of the shooter is a Democrat and the father is a Libertarian. The odds are this was just a lone wolf shooter looking to go out with a bang. Sigh, I personally know people where the shooting occurred and where the shooter is from. 😐 Edited July 14 by Insipid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 "Congressman" from Tennessee, Tim Burchett said the media is to blame for the assassination attempt, claiming their "vilification of Trump" was the cause. Guess the problem was the media quoting Trump verbatim and not following the GOP after-spin. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 19 minutes ago, tsar4 said: "Congressman" from Tennessee, Tim Burchett said the media is to blame for the assassination attempt, claiming their "vilification of Trump" was the cause. Guess the problem was the media quoting Trump verbatim and not following the GOP after-spin. I figured at some point we would end up at "Here's Tom Cotton, who stopped just short of saying 'just push the fuckers off the bridge if they're blocking your route to work' recently talking about how the rhetoric around politics has to stop." 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Trump allegedly closed his golf course at Bedminster. He's shaken up. He's really trapped himself when you think about it He can't dial things back and he knows he can't because his audience wants escalation. He knows how quickly they'd turn on him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 21 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Trump allegedly closed his golf course at Bedminster. He's shaken up. He's really trapped himself when you think about it He can't dial things back and he knows he can't because his audience wants escalation. He knows how quickly they'd turn on him. Or he & his group are strategizing how to best spin this in Milwaukee and doesn't want a bunch of reporters & others interrupting things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 23 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Trump allegedly closed his golf course at Bedminster. He's shaken up. He's really trapped himself when you think about it He can't dial things back and he knows he can't because his audience wants escalation. He knows how quickly they'd turn on him. I'd be fascinated to see what happens if this causes him to put off public appearances, even for just a bit. Maybe a few "rallies" streamed of him ranting nonsense to an empty room. A clear "acting tough while hiding" scenario. Does he put himself back out in the line of danger if he senses attention slipping away? He needs all eyes on him to maintain support (and probably to enable his behavior/rhetoric..), but I'd wager there's a non-zero chance he's at least considered laying low for a bit.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Trump allegedly closed his golf course at Bedminster. He's shaken up. He's really trapped himself when you think about it He can't dial things back and he knows he can't because his audience wants escalation. He knows how quickly they'd turn on him. Intriguing… At the very least, he’s not going to be allowed to freewheel his way through rallies at random airport tarmacs and parking lots. The Secret Service is going to lock his shit stained ass down, and that means: he’s going to have to stick to expensive, controlled venues, his public profile will be curtailed (no more golf lunches), access to Mar-A-Lago will be heavily restricted, ???? and, his social media will get screened. Retreating now means he’s going to be trapped once the shock wears off after next weeks RNC. We’ll see what he does then; in all likelihood he’s going to have difficulty reaching the independent voters that benefitted from loose access. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, rpgamer said: I'd be fascinated to see what happens if this causes him to put off public appearances, even for just a bit. Maybe a few "rallies" streamed of him ranting nonsense to an empty room. A clear "acting tough while hiding" scenario. Does he put himself back out in the line of danger if he senses attention slipping away? He needs all eyes on him to maintain support (and probably to enable his behavior/rhetoric..), but I'd wager there's a non-zero chance he's at least considered laying low for a bit.. He will most certainly will put himself in line of danger, but it won’t be at big rallies. Chances are he’s going to find ways to circumvent the SS, which means more irregular meet-and-greets and questionable photo opportunities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 This just in, apparently official...MarketWatch reports that Dow futures edge higher after the Trump assassination attempt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, tsar4 said: This just in, apparently official...MarketWatch reports that Dow futures edge higher after the Trump assassination attempt. Not a surprise. One other thing. Anyone else notice how front and center Joe Biden has been? He’s definitely taking an opportunity here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 6 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Not a surprise. One other thing. Anyone else notice how front and center Joe Biden has been? He’s definitely taking an opportunity here. He has to, otherwise he’s be viewed as complicit. Now he can turn the rhetoric around. Hopefully. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, matrixman124 said: Trump allegedly closed his golf course at Bedminster. He's shaken up. He's really trapped himself when you think about it He can't dial things back and he knows he can't because his audience wants escalation. He knows how quickly they'd turn on him. i remember the ruckus about that course/property. shortly before trump purchased the property, the previous owner, delorean, was trying to unload it, and the idea was woods would play a few rounds, trying to promote some sort of celebrity/locals match thing, but, woods wouldn't even consider playing the course. (that is the rumour). the place was rough, not terrible, but really not top quality, as far as courses go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raptorpat Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 https://x.com/MELANIATRUMP/status/1812492817068945437 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, discolé monade said: i remember the ruckus about that course/property. shortly before trump purchased the property, the previous owner, delorean, was trying to unload it, and the idea was woods would play a few rounds, trying to promote some sort of celebrity/locals match thing, but, woods wouldn't even consider playing the course. (that is the rumour). the place was rough, not terrible, but really not top quality, as far as courses go. Yeah I live an hour from it. It's not very impressive from the outside lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) So the GOP are probably going to shovel this under the carpet because this is not at all the narrative they want. It doesn't look good if a Republican tries to kill the Republican candidate now does it? Here's a personal except that makes the guy sound very conservative! Edited July 15 by matrixman124 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 8 hours ago, matrixman124 said: So the GOP are probably going to shovel this under the carpet because this is not at all the narrative they want. It doesn't look good if a Republican tries to kill the Republican candidate now does it? Here's a personal except that makes the guy sound very conservative! Some classmate of his was interview last night and said he was constantly bullied. So I wonder if he was bullied for his beliefs, or were his beliefs because he was bullied? Would you stand with those that bullied you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) edit. that was A LOT! lol yeah....sometimes. i agree, just rot in jail, all monies gone, and no one to stick by him. a lonely, penniless, convict. Edited July 15 by discolé monade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Eh, I wanted him to rot in a jail cell, not be a martyr. I think he’d consider that worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) Its pretty remarkable that an entire show is being pulled off the air because the network is worried that they may damage the network with inappropriate comments about the assassination attempt. Edited July 15 by Master-Debater131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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