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20 minutes ago, Top Gun said:

Haaa, so the dumbass hasn't taken advantage of the arbitration offer?

Of course not.  He clearly believes he’s in the right.

Man, FUNi’s panel is Friday.  That’s gonna be fun to see.

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2 hours ago, Top Gun said:

Haaa, so the dumbass hasn't taken advantage of the arbitration offer?

... actulaly this was planned a month ago during the last one. They totally dropped the accusations on Jamie, and SOME of Monica's and Roye's, so now the judge is gonna cover the rest.

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56 minutes ago, elfie said:

... actulaly this was planned a month ago during the last one. They totally dropped the accusations on Jamie, and SOME of Monica's and Roye's, so now the judge is gonna cover the rest.

The judge gave Vic's team a chance to come to a deal with the defendants, which was almost universally viewed by legal types as a last chance for him to maybe get off with only covering some of their legal fees. But apparently he didn't, like the dumbass he is.

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News:

- Vic fans have been going on to harass Jason Liebrecht because he took over the role of Qrow in RWBY which Vic originated, again demonstrating how they have no idea how the dub entertainment industry works.

- this last part of the mediation takes place one day after October 3rd, an important date in Fullmetal Alchemist and memorable to FMA fans indicating when the Elric brothers vowed to burn down their old home and never look back. Coincidence? Or just more of my bad luck.

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13 minutes ago, elfie said:

News:

- Vic fans have been going on to harass Jason Liebrecht because he took over the role of Qrow in RWBY which Vic originated, again demonstrating how they have no idea how the dub entertainment industry works.

- this last part of the mediation takes place one day after October 3rd, an important date in Fullmetal Alchemist and memorable to FMA fans indicating when the Elric brothers vowed to burn down their old home and never look back. Coincidence? Or just more of my bad luck.

honestly I don't buy into all the stories of Vic fans harassing and going after all these people, including the judge. Not saying it isn't out of the realm of possibility, considering how some people think with their dicks, but considering that the Kickvic side goes berserk over everything relating to Vic, as if it's a life or death matter. That side has been caught swatting others, trying to claim that it was the istandwithvic side, them also being caught doxxing people, photoshopping pictures and editing old videos, calling and harassing people. I know one of my devoted haters Top Gun or helpme will respond trying to twist my words to where it sounds like I'm trying to say Vic is completely innocent and trying to make it sound like I'm saying any and all pictures of him are photoshopped. Obviously I can't speak for any pictures of him out there since I've never cared to look for any, but over the course of this bullshit of a year the kickvic side has thrown out a lot of "proof" that ended up being proven to be edited.

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11 hours ago, Hello There said:

honestly I don't buy into all the stories of Vic fans harassing and going after all these people, including the judge. Not saying it isn't out of the realm of possibility, considering how some people think with their dicks, but considering that the Kickvic side goes berserk over everything relating to Vic, as if it's a life or death matter. That side has been caught swatting others, trying to claim that it was the istandwithvic side, them also being caught doxxing people, photoshopping pictures and editing old videos, calling and harassing people. I know one of my devoted haters Top Gun or helpme will respond trying to twist my words to where it sounds like I'm trying to say Vic is completely innocent and trying to make it sound like I'm saying any and all pictures of him are photoshopped. Obviously I can't speak for any pictures of him out there since I've never cared to look for any, but over the course of this bullshit of a year the kickvic side has thrown out a lot of "proof" that ended up being proven to be edited.

Yeah I make bullshit posts about fake events that were discredited months ago too.

Oh wait.

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Chupp dropped the remaining claims today after no one came to a peaceful resolution on them in the past month.

https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2019/10/04/anime-voice-actor-vic-mignogna-loses-big-judge-drops-final-claims-dallas-area-studio-colleagues-defamed/

This is great news for fans of Monica Rial, Jamie Marchi, and others, but unfortunately this doesn't seem to ease the flame wars in the anime fandom at all. What comes next is calculating all the fees Vic's side now have to pay, which is expected to reach into the millions.

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"No shit" said every non crazy lawyer on planet Earth.

Hello There will have a nutty conspiracy theory for this I'm sure.

The nuts are live reacting to this. They are unhappy =(

 

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Time for delusional quotes from Viccers.

About the judge....

"Can someone try and get some info on this prick, no one sane would let this shitshow slide so far with so much evidence against them. He either has dirt on him that is being leveraged by some benefactor that is getting something from ruining the anime industry, and giving these snakes the chance to poison everything, or he is an SJW in hiding."

"Never back down when you know that you're innocent. Show the accuser's their true colors."

"If something with this much proof of innocence is dismissed merely because the Judge didn’t bother looking at the case... then there really is no hope I have lost faith in all legal situations, even if Vic still has a chance to win the fact that he got this close to losing just because the judge couldn’t be bothered or is being paid off is enough to make me give up on everything this case is"

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Alright, I'm finally home, so I can finally give my two cents, that way there's something for Top Gun & Co. to fap to.

As I've said many times, I don't care about Vic, I don't care for him as a voice actor, and I don't think he's an angel, the dude has been pretty shitty in the past, there being many times that he had or had tried to cheat on his fiance back when he was engaged, back in his deposition video he even mentioned how he paid for an escort service in the past. I don't think the dude's a sexual predator like Ronica and co. makes him out to be, but the dude is definitely one of those types are more into hookups and not relationships. That's not the kind of thing I'm fond of, but that's a pretty common thing for a lot of men and women. And I still think it's because of that, in addition to him being a conservative (that being a reason that he mentioned in his deposition) why a lot of people at Funi, such as Greg Ayres whose gay, didn't think too highly of him, especially since in the VA business Vic was more wellknown and successful than most of them, and then the whole MeToo movement happened in Hollywood which paved the way for them to use that bullshit to purge undesirables such as Vic.

As for the court outcome, I still think it's shit, since Ronica were dead to rights actively seeking to destroy Vic's career and reputation. I was talking to a real life buddy of mine that's been following all this stuff, he comes from a family of policemen, and he himself is going through school to be a lawyer, point being he's pretty knowledgeable on the law and legal proceedings, and even he said that by all means Rial, Toye, and Funi were guilty as hell, but because of the way defamation works, Vic was very unlikely to prove that one. And with the tortious interference Ronica and also Sabat would have been fucked completely over that one, but the owner of Kamehacon choose to keep Vic, so then it became attempted tortious interference which isn't something that's punishable in court.

He also talked about with the way the Dallasnews sold the story as a #MeToo movement, with all the photography of Rial and Marchi standing side by side, the court didn't even want to give Vic a real chance. Him also mentioning that Chupp was the worst type of lawyer that they could have been assigned, with the dudes reviews and history of dismissing cases to get through them as quickly as possible, how he didn't even give Ty a chance to dive into his evidence, dismissing some of the charges before Ty could even present evidence corresponding to those.

tl;dr Top Gun, helpme, and the rest of his band of misfits are either going to ignore this or skim through it and then bash on me for one thing or other, or try calling me bitter or mad or in denial. I accept that Vic pretty much lost this, but I'm still going to call this shit out for being broken, and how the legal system never gave him a real chance.

Gonna be fun seeing how Nick Rekiata and Ty explain this one.

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Also would like to note, even though Vic may have lost the case, Funi is dead. Because of the way they handled the DB ip, as well as all their business practices and lack of professionalism being brought to light, they went down in profit a lot over the course of this year, and if the articles on the interwebs are correct, Funi is about to get gutted by Sony. The article going on about how it made no sense in the first place to keep Funi existing as it had been, considering Sony owns Aniplex and Aniplex of America, so they already dub anime. Sources have mentioned that it was because of the DB ip and how profitable it is that they let Funi keep being its own thing, but with the other rumors going around that Toei is pissed at Funi over the way they've handled the DB franchise and are looking to pass the rights onto a different company, then there'd be no reason for Sony to leave Funi standing. Apparently Funi has been, or is about to get gutted, their marketing and art division has been cut, Sony took the parts that they wanted, and from now on Funi will be reduced to nothing more than offices, no longer involved in dubbing any anime. I'd imagine in that scenario, anime such as MHA that's licensed by Funi will just be transferred to Sony.

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Everything you say is just nonsense and rumors. Most of the people here told you Vic had no chance of winning this case, but you thought you knew better. I specifically told you defamation, slander and libel were almost impossible to win, especially for a public figure. And the other problem was... they weren't actually guilty of any of those. Talking about the things Vic actually DID and things that other people told them Vic DID is not any of those. 

Your legal expert is a guy you know who comes from a family of policemen. Dude are you for real? Are you really this stupid? Why do you say things like this? Are you doing a bit or some sort of character? Is there a disability at play here? 

Chupp was the Judge, not a lawyer. You're just spouting off nonsense about him you heard on youtube to try and discredit him. He's also a Republican from Texas, not some SJW. No wait let me guess.... they must have gotten to him!

Here, read this summation of the case. Actually READ. Physically move your eyeballs up and down the page and absorb the words therein. Then think about what you have read.

https://www.cbr.com/vic-mignogna-lawsuit-failed-fan-rage/

 

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30 minutes ago, Daos said:

Everything you say is just nonsense and rumors. Most of the people here told you Vic had no chance of winning this case, but you thought you knew better. I specifically told you defamation, slander and libel were almost impossible to win, especially for a public figure. And the other problem was... they weren't actually guilty of any of those. Talking about the things Vic actually DID and things that other people told them Vic DID is not any of those. 

Your legal expert is a guy you know who comes from a family of policemen. Dude are you for real? Are you really this stupid? Why do you say things like this? Are you doing a bit or some sort of character? Is there a disability at play here? 

Chupp was the Judge, not a lawyer. You're just spouting off nonsense about him you heard on youtube to try and discredit him. He's also a Republican from Texas, not some SJW. No wait let me guess.... they must have gotten to him!

Here, read this summation of the case. Actually READ. Physically move your eyeballs up and down the page and absorb the words therein. Then think about what you have read.

https://www.cbr.com/vic-mignogna-lawsuit-failed-fan-rage/

 

Love how you only read the parts of what I posted and use that to bash me.

Part 1: I don't listen to people that I think are a PoS.

Part 2: That's only part of what I said, I also said that he's currently going through school to be a lawyer, meaning he's studying all this shit you fucking inbred retard.

Part 3: What the fuck are you even talking about? I can't hear you with Top Gun's scrotum pressed against your mouth. Never said Chupp was a lawyer. And I'm not one of those that's in denial and use the excuse of "they paid off the judge!" or some shit. The way my buddy put it, Chupp is the type of judge that's assigned by the court to cases they don't want to have a fair trial, which a case like this with the media exposure it amassed being an example of a case they'd assign him to.

Part 4: No, I don't think I will. I'd rather see you have a brain aneurysm, cause maybe then you'll shut your bitch mouth.

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Him also mentioning that Chupp was the worst type of lawyer that they could have been assigned

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 Never said Chupp was a lawyer

You ok there buddy? Need medical attention? 

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That's only part of what I said, I also said that he's currently going through school to be a lawyer, meaning he's studying all this shit you fucking inbred retard.

He's from a family of police officers and hasn't passed the Bar exam yet. I'll definitely listen to him over the collective legal expertise of every other lawyer in the US.

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The way my buddy put it, Chupp is the type of judge that's assigned by the court to cases they don't want to have a fair trial, which a case like this with the media exposure it amassed being an example of a case they'd assign him to.

Is that the new conspiracy theory you're going with? D minus. Must try harder.

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49 minutes ago, Daos said:

You ok there buddy? Need medical attention? 

He's from a family of police officers and hasn't passed the Bar exam yet. I'll definitely listen to him over the collective legal expertise of every other lawyer in the US.

Is that the new conspiracy theory you're going with? D minus. Must try harder.

As for the Chupp lawyer part that was just a typo. 

As for everything else you're a prick that can get bent and eat a dick. 

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I'll post the highlights of the article, someone can post it for him.

"Yet on Sept. 6, when this lawsuit went to court, the vast majority of Mignogna's accusations were dismissed. While much of this has to do with the strong performance of the defense's legal team, a lot of blame can be placed on the pitiful performance of the plaintiff. Mignogna, for one, never showed up to court. Then his lawyer, Ty Beard, reportedly offered an almost-incoherent defense of Mignogna.

Tweets from inside the courtroom depict Beard as unprepared, and unable to inform the judge of any proof of any argument he made. This got to the point where the judge outright told Beard, "I don’t think you have any evidence and that’s your problem."

It is also worth noting that Beard's filing was submitted on the very last day it could be filed, and, by many lawyers' accounts, was poorly assembled.

did you know Ty Beard included every single page of Vic Mignogna's deposition as his supporting evidence?

it seems unlikely Mignogna will win. You have to wonder why Beard, with apparently no real evidence, would want to keep pushing it.

Oddly enough, as the date of the case drew near, numerous false stories started to crop up, discrediting Funimation staff. Most famously, Rekeita posted several "leaked" outtakes featuring the Dragon Ball Z actors saying lewd things. Never mind that these outtakes, and others like them, had in fact been available for years at 18-plus panels at conventions.

Rekeita started a massive GoFundMe campaign to, in part, cover Mignogna's litigation costs, raising more than $240,000 so far. However, Mignogna, when asked about the fundraising during his deposition, stated he gave "no permission" for Rekeita to create the page.

By launching this poorly planned, ineffective lawsuit, he made himself even more of a pariah. His defenders, ironically, made him even more hated, by association. And with the case closing, all of the YouTubers and lawyers who financially gained from the situation will now lose a source of income. In the long term, no-one benefited."

 

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12 minutes ago, elfie said:

"Don't listen to people *I* want you to listen to."

Considering Daos, Top Gun, and others has been a D-bag to me the entire duration of my time here, and much of the time on the old boards, why should I be expected to give a shit about what they say?

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Y'know I expected an appropriately retarded response but this exceeded my wildest dreams. 

Also fucking lol at FUNi getting shut down. The same FUNi that just took over Sony's subsidiary operations in Europe and Australia. If anything AoA is done and will just be folded into FUNi. 

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