Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Who knows anymore? If that is the case, the least we can do is bring down the ruling class with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, bnmjy said: Who knows anymore? If that is the case, the least we can do is bring down the ruling class with us. no. everyone assimilates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Lets all turn into orange goo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, SwimModSponges said: Lets all turn into orange goo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Phillies said: I hope not why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Just now, Poof said: why not? I'd rather be this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, bnmjy said: Who knows anymore? If that is the case, the least we can do is bring down the ruling class with us. how to do that when they're already running circles around you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: Lets all turn into orange goo. its supposed to be grey goo whyd you make it orange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Poof said: how to do that when they're already running circles around you? Demagoguery, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, Phillies said: I'd rather be this: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, bnmjy said: Demagoguery, I suppose. hows that going to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Poof said: hows that going to work? You rile people up by appealing to their emotion and they destroy the establishment? It's obviously bullshit, but I don't completely agree with robots taking over everything anyway. We organics metabolize, that is constantly recycle through elements, unlike synthetics. There may be some advantage to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Poof said: its supposed to be grey goo whyd you make it orange? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, bnmjy said: You rile people up by appealing to their emotion and they destroy the establishment? destroy what establishment in this case? kill all the STEM majors? 3 minutes ago, bnmjy said: It's obviously bullshit, but I don't completely agree with robots taking over everything anyway. We organics metabolize, that is constantly recycle through elements, unlike synthetics. There may be some advantage to that. think like a take over that doesn't involve a war. like i have a fan theory about the matrix movies. the machines never do any hostile takeover and the people arent enslaved batteries. mankind just gradually transitioned to a stage where machines could do everything for them so they live their entire life in cyberspace dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Poof said: destroy what establishment in this case? kill all the STEM majors? think like a take over that doesn't involve a war. like i have a fan theory about the matrix movies. the machines never do any hostile takeover and the people arent enslaved batteries. mankind just gradually transitioned to a stage where machines could do everything for them so they live their entire life in cyberspace dreaming. No, the robots got sick of our shit and made their own country, then we attacked them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: that explains that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: No, the robots got sick of our shit and made their own country, then we attacked them. thats a lie/misinformation. doesnt matter anyway. just illustrating a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I'll continue to be human, even when the robot like hive mind over takes the complacent population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlappyKincaid Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Poof said: how to do that when they're already running circles around you? Eat the rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: I'll continue to be human, even when the robot like hive mind over takes the complacent population. why do you want to stay human? do you think people in the upcoming generations will value staying human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnmjy Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 35 minutes ago, Poof said: destroy what establishment in this case? kill all the STEM majors? think like a take over that doesn't involve a war. like i have a fan theory about the matrix movies. the machines never do any hostile takeover and the people arent enslaved batteries. mankind just gradually transitioned to a stage where machines could do everything for them so they live their entire life in cyberspace dreaming. By the ruling class, I obviously meant people with loads of money and the institutions they really on for said money to have any sort of value. Most STEM majors would also be part of the movement, as they're basically proletariat too. What I think will happen is these rich people, not based on their talent but merely their birthright, will be the ones who can evolve with machines while the rest of us are left to fend for themselves. Classic cyberpunk scenario. I don't believe in a hostile takeover of synthetics either. Think, humans and chimps evolved separately, and now humans are a huge threat to just about all other species of animals. It's not because we necessarily want to rule over all other animals; it's just the way our lifestyles are with nature. That, I believe, will be the same case for humans who will be left behind with our primitive ways of thinking under humans "allowed" to evolve with machines; they will be a threat to our current ways of life, but they don't necessarily mean us harm. Of course, I don't believe this wholeheartedly, as there are many other possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) . Edited May 1, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Poof said: why do you want to stay human? do you think people in the upcoming generations will value staying human? I don't care what other generations will think, I'll lead by example in my own little circle because it's all I can do. The value of being human is that we can learn from our mistakes and not feel as though we are lesser for it, despite what the overwhelming consensus of ignorant motherfuckers has to say about it. Without the ability for any one to gain enlightenment through introspection would be a grave loss to mankind. Others who can will be able to teach others the value of introspection without having to learn things the hard way in certain cases or just assume that everyone is out for themselves and the entire world is an amalgamation of narcissists existing within their own bubbles; which is by no means a healthy thing. I'd rather be the odd man out if others strictly believe that to be the case with everyone as opposed to a ruling class that has polluted the collective conscious of others. I'll fight to the death for my beliefs against that and if I have kids I only hope they'd feel the same way. Edited May 1, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 i dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 32 minutes ago, bnmjy said: By the ruling class, I obviously meant people with loads of money and the institutions they really on for said money to have any sort of value. Most STEM majors would also be part of the movement, as they're basically proletariat too. What I think will happen is these rich people, not based on their talent but merely their birthright, will be the ones who can evolve with machines while the rest of us are left to fend for themselves. Classic cyberpunk scenario. I don't believe in a hostile takeover of synthetics either. Think, humans and chimps evolved separately, and now humans are a huge threat to just about all other species of animals. It's not because we necessarily want to rule over all other animals; it's just the way our lifestyles are with nature. That, I believe, will be the same case for humans who will be left behind with our primitive ways of thinking under humans "allowed" to evolve with machines; they will be a threat to our current ways of life, but they don't necessarily mean us harm. Of course, I don't believe this wholeheartedly, as there are many other possibilities. Oh yea i forgot u just meant take down the ruling class / not stop the dehumanization. I havent slept. Its not going to be just rich ppl. The lower classes are super into tech gadgets. Everyones into it. And even if you dont use any form of a computer the algorithms are still going to be controlling everything around you. Documenting and calculating everything you do to better sell you stuff and choosing what you see to make you think it was your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameraka Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 No. We will become dancer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 By We.. What do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 i dont know i hope not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaBarney Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, ghostrek said: i dont know i hope not robotrek alientrek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Somewhat relevant? https://www.npr.org/2018/05/01/605000881/on-adjustment-day-a-quick-horrifying-descent-into-madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 2 hours ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: I don't care what other generations will think, I'll lead by example in my own little circle because it's all I can do. The value of being human is that we can learn from our mistakes and not feel as though we are lesser for it, despite what the overwhelming consensus of ignorant motherfuckers has to say about it. Without the ability for any one to gain enlightenment through introspection would be a grave loss to mankind. Others who can will be able to teach others the value of introspection without having to learn things the hard way in certain cases or just assume that everyone is out for themselves and the entire world is an amalgamation of narcissists existing within their own bubbles; which is by no means a healthy thing. I'd rather be the odd man out if others strictly believe that to be the case with everyone as opposed to a ruling class that has polluted the collective conscious of others. I'll fight to the death for my beliefs against that and if I have kids I only hope they'd feel the same way. Whats the point of being human if machines can do everything better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 53 minutes ago, PhilosipherStoned said: By We.. What do you mean? People. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 49 minutes ago, ghostrek said: i dont know i hope not Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 I want one of those hot cyborg bodies like in Ghost in the Shell. Then I can just run around in my underwear all day and beat bitches to death with my fists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Define people.. To me I suppose we are all homo sapiens, but why does that matter. Are you saying that people are supposed to be better than everything else in this world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Poof said: Whats the point of being human if machines can do everything better? Broad generalizations don't look good on you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAC Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 As others have said, I sure hope not. We humans have tuned horrible. I'm ready for the GITS stage in human evolution already, I need a new body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Poof said: Whats the point of being human if machines can do everything better? For now, machines can't write better porn than me, so I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, PhilosipherStoned said: Define people.. To me I suppose we are all homo sapiens, but why does that matter. Are you saying that people are supposed to be better than everything else in this world? No. Why would you think thats what I'm saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: Broad generalizations don't look good on you. I'm not making a broad generalization. I'm not saying they can. But if machines *could* do everything better than humans, would there be a point in staying human/keeping humans around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Define 'people' then? There are a lot of different types of people inn this world I suppose.. So what I'm asking is how ambiguous or how large scale are... You know what fuck it I'm just gonna take the last sip of this beer. Not sure where this is going.. Edited May 1, 2018 by PhilosipherStoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Poof said: I'm not making a broad generalization. I'm not saying they can. But if machines *could* do everything better than humans, would there be a point in staying human/keeping humans around? Well they can't so it's all just a moot point to me, but for the sake of argument if they could do everything better I'd want my soul transfered into a robot body. Although, that would present its own set of moral dilemmas like that of the plot to Galaxy Express 999. Edited May 1, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewn Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Were we even human to begin with? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, Poof said: Why? because Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
death_by_motorboat Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 we will perish, they will be stuck on their self-prescribed thrones forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename: Jackass Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) In the year 2070, most of the world's major cities will have become vast Pleasure Domes reserved exclusively for the Excelsiites, the neo-upper class, while the lower class Depth Grovelers will toil away underground for their Excelsiite overlords, digging for nuggets of neoplasmin. Edited May 1, 2018 by empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, empty said: In the year 2070, most of the world's major cities will have become vast Pleasure Domes reserved exclusively for the Excelsiites, the neo-upper class, while the lower class Depth Grovelers will toil away underground for their Excelsiite overlords, digging for nuggets of neoplasmin. nah, son....my deal with Cthulhu explicitly states that none of that will happen........................to me >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 wanna have robot sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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