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Which should I learn: French or Spanish?  

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  • Insipid changed the title to Which should I learn: French or Spanish
12 minutes ago, The_annoying_one said:

Did my stupid joke really backfire on me?

A group of an Englishman, Frenchman, Spaniard, and German is watching a parade. A guy in the parade asks them if they can see him clearly.

"Yes." "Oui." "Si." "Ja."

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10 minutes ago, discolé monade said:

tu devrais apprendre le français. mais honnêtement, apprendre le latin serait mieux, qu’apprendre des langues basées sur le latin serait bien plus facile.

et peut-être que tu pourrais voler, déchiffrer quelque chose d'important

I can make out so many words here from previous experience with Spanish before I used a translator. apprend - learn facile - easy

And I once was interested in learning Latin, but these days I would much prefer to learn a living language.

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littly timmy's class had an exchange student from france. pierre.

teacher asked timmy to take pierre around and learn some english words.

first they went to watch the rocket launch, pierre heard the countdown, then finally takeoff, 

next they went to the zoo, and he saw all the animals but his favorite was the zebra. finally on the way home, they saw a mother and child , 'now now little baby' said the mom

 

the next day, teacher asked pierre, 'well, what did you learn?'

OUI OUI. TAKEOFF. ZEBRA. BABY. 

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2 minutes ago, Insipid said:

I can make out so many words here from previous experience with Spanish before I used a translator. apprend - learn facile - easy

And I once was interested in learning Latin, but these days I would much prefer to learn a living language.

see, i took both french and spanish in school. 3 years french 2 years spanish. and i am constantly mixing them up, (well, used to. i don't even have anyone to speak to in english around here. lol * le sigh*)

so i'm thinking of relearning french. 

let's learn french together. dualingo?

 

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6 minutes ago, discolé monade said:

see, i took both french and spanish in school. 3 years french 2 years spanish. and i am constantly mixing them up, (well, used to. i don't even have anyone to speak to in english around here. lol * le sigh*)

so i'm thinking of relearning french. 

let's learn french together. dualingo?

 

Sure, although duolingo has a placement test, and I imagine you'd skip way ahead of me. We could compare scores and practice writing French on the boards here.

My duolingo sn is BakanaHannin. If anyone else reading this wants to add me too.

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2 minutes ago, Insipid said:

Sure, although duolingo has a placement test, and I imagine you'd skip way ahead of me. We could compare scores and practice writing French on the boards here.

My duolingo sn is BakanaHannin. If anyone else reading this wants to add me too.

nah...i mean maybe but not that much ahead.  

**ok a few minutes later*

i did the placement and 2 lessons and added you. see you on the flip side. 

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2 hours ago, discolé monade said:

tu devrais apprendre le français. mais honnêtement, apprendre le latin serait mieux, qu’apprendre des langues basées sur le latin serait bien plus facile.

et peut-être que tu pourrais voler, déchiffrer quelque chose d'important

Is "plus" really a word in French too?

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8 hours ago, André Toulon said:

Simlish.

I also want to ask you what a character is saying on a Jrpg I'm playing, but the effort to upload a clip just for that seems tedious. 

 

i just found out this is a thing. my daughter and her friend were watching youtube about new dl and kits and i'm like wtf happened to just enjoying being able to afford the octogon window?

there's actual music in simlish that can be found 'translated' to english on spotify. 

....

....

LOL and we wonder why rome burns. 

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1 hour ago, tsar4 said:

So, Ukrainian!  After all, there's a few people in the world trying to eradicate it.  Plus, Cyrillic is pretty cool.

The only Slavic language I'm remotely interested in learning is Russian. 💀

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43 minutes ago, Insipid said:

The only Slavic language I'm remotely interested in learning is Russian. 💀

It may sound weird or like sour grapes, but Russian (which I took in college) is more guttural, Ukrainian is more lyrical.  I had read that once & thought "sure", but it actually is true.  "Your Poems" sounds like "vashy vershy", "fresh food" is "sveezhya eezhya".  (and a Russian wouldn't understand it)

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2 minutes ago, tsar4 said:

It may sound weird or like sour grapes, but Russian (which I took in college) is more guttural, Ukrainian is more lyrical.  I had read that once & thought "sure", but it actually is true.  "Your Poems" sounds like "vashy vershy", "fresh food" is "sveezhya eezhya".  (and a Russian wouldn't understand it)

I believe you. I think the only thing I know about Ukraine is Chernobyl, but I know quite a bit about Russia. Ukrainian on Duolingo exploded in popularity after the war started . . . and so did Russian, to a smaller extent.

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So . . . I have decided on Spanish. I helped a Hispanic woman with limited English skills with my limited Spanish skills the other day. I love French, but I know I'll have way more opportunities to actually use Spanish. Plus, I'm confident that I'll have a better Spanish accent, as I can trill my Rs and I know how to keep my vowels pure thanks to my experience with Japanese. I've heard that it's significantly harder to hear natives speak French than Spanish too, as the French blend their syllables together with their liaison.

Sorry disco, if you wanna switch to Spanish. If not, we can still do the duolingo challenges if you're up for it, as that doesn't require the same languages being learned.

Thanks, everyone who made topical suggestions.

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no no...you do you. i did spanish, i was up there, but i deleted it. and i just don't have that 'accent', as i do with french.

the blending in french i can decipher a lot easier than in spanish. 

but here's what it's important: i can order a beer and 2 tacos, and ask where the bathroom is located, in spanish, and it sounds REALLY good. living close to mexico. i mean, was there at least once a month,

so that might be another reason i'll stick with the francais. 

but i know my basic spanish....my spanglish,   and can navigate, mostly. 

 

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ChatGPT is quite useful. I did some exercises to test my language skills with it and I have an A1 level of Spanish and a B1 level of Japanese. If I dedicated a year to Spanish, I would probably surpass my level of Japanese. Sigh, I put so much effort into Japanese too. It really is a tough language for a native English speaker.

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2 hours ago, discolé monade said:

truth time. 

i haven't been practicing. :(

trying to come out of a 'funk'

it's not easy. i haven't really done much of anything. 

Life happens. It's ok. If you make it to 30 days, Duolingo makes you feel guilty for not upkeeping your streak thereafter.

Such an annoying owl, worse than Misaka.

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  • Insipid changed the title to Bastardized Linguistics

The nice thing about the Japanese language is that one is taught etymology, whether one is interested or not in the subject, due to the nature of kanji. I am bringing this up because my mother said every Japanese person knows what a tariff is, and she is not the type to talk about global economic policy.

Anyway, the kanji compound for tariff gives away the meaning 関税 "barrier tax" kanzei

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On 11/9/2024 at 3:10 PM, Insipid said:

The nice thing about the Japanese language is that one is taught etymology, whether one is interested or not in the subject, due to the nature of kanji. I am bringing this up because my mother said every Japanese person knows what a tariff is, and she is not the type to talk about global economic policy.

Anyway, the kanji compound for tariff gives away the meaning 関税 "barrier tax" kanzei

Can't help but think everyone would be smarter if they took etymology seriously.

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I use DuoLingo for Spanish. Can’t speak worth a shit. They have a max tier that I got a 1 day trial for and it had all the things I felt that were keeping me from progressing further.  Actually, well AI, conversation and better grammatical explanations but it’s like twice the price of Super 😬

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20 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I use DuoLingo for Spanish. Can’t speak worth a shit. They have a max tier that I got a 1 day trial for and it had all the things I felt that were keeping me from progressing further.  Actually, well AI, conversation and better grammatical explanations but it’s like twice the price of Super 😬

I pay for Super, but I don't think Max is worth it. I just use the free version of ChatGPT to fill in the gaps, and so far this has proven to work. You can make ChatGPT create pop quizzes and practice conversing with it. I think if one is willing to pay 20 dollars a month more for AI features, they might as well use that money for ChatGPT premium instead.

And of course, speaking with natives is the best way to improve that skill. Duolingo is mainly good for reading and sentence construction.

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