1pooh4u Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 6 minutes ago, Jman said: At this point the Trump campaign and honestly GOP ideology is this self-propelled hate machine. "Owning the libs" is the top priority, over environmental safety, economic safety, or even basic human decency. Liberals can be annoying. But the driving philosophy of these boomers is "I don't care if I'm miserable, so long as others are more miserable, and if I show enough loyalty to the Party, I'll be uplifted." If any of them bothered to read 1984 in depth, they would understand that the key tenent of The Party is that the masses must be made to be miserable, because that's how they keep their power. They want power and money for its own sake, and only be keeping everyone miserable can that be allowed. I’m just surprised that she went down the “I’m just gonna make shit up” route Trump did a political stunt the clown media outlets trying to make it seem like it was honest work is what’s actually making people laugh at him Trump and the GOP remind me of that saying “the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the masses that he doesn’t exist” 100% people like Trump win only because of those voting against their own interests to “own the libs” I sure feel owned because some jerk off, living in a trailer with no power, voted for Trump 🙄😆🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I'm just stunned she's stupid enough to think Trump pantomiming a fryer triggers anyone. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 "This visit provides a unique opportunity to shine a light on the positive impact of small businesses here in Feasterville" IT'S FUCKING MCDONALD'S 🤦🏿♂️ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: I sure feel owned because some jerk off, living in a trailer with no power, voted for Trump 🙄😆🙄 I grew up in rural PA. You can best characterize this area using the following: Low educational attainment Poor education system overall High religiosity (in theory, not in practice) Low wages Long job commutes Homogenous (white Christian laborers) Racist/fearful rhetoric - see #6 Unhealthy - obesity, drugs, alcohol, poor mental health Needless to say I left and don't visit often. There's no reason to. I reluctantly went back last week and there were Trump signs everywhere. The one that really got me though was posted on this ugly ass trailer that I initially thought had been abandoned. Many houses are there. It was filthy dirty, crooked, and surrounded by trash. But as we drove by, a Trump banner came into view and my mind was fucking blown. Ok sure, vote for Trump to "own" me but at the end of the day, I don't live in a shack, suffer from whatever addiction leads a person to live in squalor, work a thankless manual labor job for minimum wage, and live 30 minutes away from the nearest grocery store. So what point system are we using to determine who has won and who has lost here? 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 9 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: I grew up in rural PA. You can best characterize this area using the following: Low educational attainment Poor education system overall High religiosity (in theory, not in practice) Low wages Long job commutes Homogenous (white Christian laborers) Racist/fearful rhetoric - see #6 Unhealthy - obesity, drugs, alcohol, poor mental health Needless to say I left and don't visit often. There's no reason to. I reluctantly went back last week and there were Trump signs everywhere. The one that really got me though was posted on this ugly ass trailer that I initially thought had been abandoned. Many houses are there. It was filthy dirty, crooked, and surrounded by trash. But as we drove by, a Trump banner came into view and my mind was fucking blown. Ok sure, vote for Trump to "own" me but at the end of the day, I don't live in a shack, suffer from whatever addiction leads a person to live in squalor, work a thankless manual labor job for minimum wage, and live 30 minutes away from the nearest grocery store. So what point system are we using to determine who has won and who has lost here? Unfortunately as long as rights are taken away from someone somewhere they feel like they won. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I try to mentally reconcile Trump's unwavering base as the product of generations of inbreeding, and that's only partially tongue-in-cheek. Because while it may not be true biologically, it sure as fuck is intellectually. It's a fundamental inability to look beyond your own failures, to recognize what led yourself and your community to this point and what can get you out of it. No, it's far easier to hang on every word of a drooling idiot who promises the world but doesn't give a flying fuck about you. I have exactly zero sympathy for that level of willful ignorance. Let them rot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 I wonder how high on the sentience scale an average 2024 Trump supporter has and if it is as much as ChatGPT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 1 minute ago, naraku360 said: I wonder how high on the sentience scale an average 2024 Trump supporter has and if it is as much as ChatGPT. Hey, chatGPT is pretty useful, I use it for my work emails when I can't figure out how to politely ask someone to fucking répondez s'il vous plaît! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 McDonald's. Trump just spent part of a late October Sunday at a photo op and not doing any traditional GOTV operation. It's a choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 26 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: Hey, chatGPT is pretty useful, I use it for my work emails when I can't figure out how to politely ask someone to fucking répondez s'il vous plaît! I mean, I'm learning to code. Aka, ChatGPT carries me on homework. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 what a weird timeline where this is a headline two weeks out from a presidential election 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 On Jan 6 insurrectionists [13:38]: "Why are they still being held? Nobody's ever been treated like this. Maybe the Japanese during the second World War, frankly. You know, they were held, too." Oh yeah, our treatment of Japanese during WW2 was totally the worst anyone was treated in that war, or ever. This absolute dumbass. I doubt he even knows the conditions of the "internment" camps were, which he's fucking praised as the best thing our country has done. These conditions were unacceptable and they never should have been a thing to beginwith, but there's a very different place where a very different demographic has forever been associated with being thrown in gas chambers and ovens during that exact time period. Just get the fuck in prison and die a humiliating death already. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 6 hours ago, Top Gun said: I try to mentally reconcile Trump's unwavering base as the product of generations of inbreeding, and that's only partially tongue-in-cheek. Because while it may not be true biologically, it sure as fuck is intellectually. It's a fundamental inability to look beyond your own failures, to recognize what led yourself and your community to this point and what can get you out of it. No, it's far easier to hang on every word of a drooling idiot who promises the world but doesn't give a flying fuck about you. I have exactly zero sympathy for that level of willful ignorance. Let them rot. People who support Trump are explained by humans willingly supporting tyrants to lead them throughout history, IMO. You know some of the societies I mean. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 51 minutes ago, Belize said: People who support Trump are explained by humans willingly supporting tyrants to lead them throughout history, IMO. You know some of the societies I mean. I like to call those people "pussies." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 Welp, my vote's in, so can't blame me for the potential upcoming impending apocalypse. At least not this one. BTW, I challenge anyone to listen to what you know who said about Arnold Palmer and be able to honestly say, "Yeah, that guy's presidential material." I thought we had hit the bottom of the barrel with the whole eating cats and dogs thing, but silly me... I forgot. There is no bottom anymore. ::smacks head:: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 I find it ironic that Trump came to Latrobe and praised a famous golfer's penis, as another person came from the area, one of the most wholesome Americans of all time and perhaps the complete antithesis of Trump: Fred Rogers. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 2 hours ago, Insipid said: I find it ironic that Trump came to Latrobe and praised a famous golfer's penis, as another person came from the area, one of the most wholesome Americans of all time and perhaps the complete antithesis of Trump: Fred Rogers. I’m not sure I want to know what Fred Roger’s penis looks like either, but I’m sure he was hung like a beast. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 14 minutes ago, Insipid said: I find it ironic that Trump came to Latrobe and praised a famous golfer's penis, as another person came from the area, one of the most wholesome Americans of all time and perhaps the complete antithesis of Trump: Fred Rogers. Dumpster can't speak such a name. He'd burst into flames. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 10 hours ago, Jman said: But the driving philosophy of these boomers is "I don't care if I'm miserable, so long as others are more miserable, and if I show enough loyalty to the Party, I'll be uplifted." Yeah, If could drop that "boomers" reference, that'd be great. The youngest Boomer would be 59/60 years old. Compare that to the audiences turning up at Mr Cheetos' "events" and they're mostly younger than that. And Zamyatin's "We" was the superior novel, Wells even said he borrowed heavily from it for 1984. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 17 minutes ago, Insipid said: I find it ironic that Trump came to Latrobe and praised a famous golfer's penis, as another person came from the area, one of the most wholesome Americans of all time and perhaps the complete antithesis of Trump: Fred Rogers. I actually got to meet Mr. Rogers briefly as a child when my mom and I happened upon him on the street one time right when he was about to take off in his limo. It was such a long time ago, I can't honestly remember what he said to me, but he was every bit as cordial and polite to us as he was on his show. That much I remember. Still got his autograph somewhere. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Daddy Dearest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 😂 https://www.newsweek.com/mcdonalds-donald-trump-worked-failed-last-health-inspection-1971998 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Democratic Party superiority meme. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 McDonalds shoots back at Trump claiming Harris never worked there. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcdonalds-kamala-harris/?10222024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 9 minutes ago, Jman said: McDonalds shoots back at Trump claiming Harris never worked there. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcdonalds-kamala-harris/?10222024 Oh....ok. I know I overuse punctuation but sometimes is necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 On 10/20/2024 at 12:26 PM, Master-Debater131 said: While there's a lot of focus on the Presidential race, the Senate races are just as important. And just like the Presidential race, the GOP look good in their Senate races. All they need to do is win 1 seat to flip the Senate if they win the WH, 2 if they want to win it outright. Right now, the GOP are poised to pick up 2 seats. West Virginia is absolutely going to flip to the GOP, not even worth paying attention there. Montana is where the GOP look to get their 2nd pickup. Tester has survived a lot of close races, but this one looks like hes done. Sheehy has a 7 point lead in the RCP averages, and has led in every poll since June. Ohio is also a potential GOP pickup as well. That race is only separated by 0.5% in the RCP polls. A big GOP turnout in the Presidential election may be enough to bring Moreno over the finish line and give the GOP another pickup. PA, WI, and MI are all also tightening up as the races come to the finish line. A GOP win at the top of the ticket might pull a Senate win for them as well. Nevada is a long shot for the GOP, but there has been some clear momentum there for the GOP in recent weeks. Polling has tightened up, but Democrats still hold a 6 point lead. Probably enough to hold that seat, but may be one that produces a surprise on election day if trends continue. As good as the map looks for the GOP, the Democrats are in the exact opposite spot. There are no chances for a pickup this year. They are hilariously putting resources into Texas and Florida, only for the usual Lucy with the Football result. Neither state is particularly close and at no point in these races have the polls been even within the MoE. They are solidly Republican states, and the Senate results will end up that way. Actions speak louder than words, or in politics actions speak louder than polls. There is more evidence that the top of the ticket is starting to impact down-ballot races in the swing states. Normally when running ads you embrace the candidate at the top of your ticket and say you will support them. Something else is starting to happen though. In these tough swing states Democrat candidates are now running ads touting how they have worked, and supported, Trump and Trumps policies. You don't do that if you think your candidate is pulling away in the race. Candidates are seeing something in their internal polls that has them worried that Harris will pull them down and cost their own seats. Republican candidates tried the same thing during the 2018 mid-terms and 2020 nationals when Biden was on the ticket. They knew that the top of the ticket was an anchor so they tried to abandon ship. It didnt work for them. It might work for Democrats in some of these swing states, but it also could mean there is a true cascade happening that gives the GOP more wins than expected. Theres going to be a surprise somewhere in here on election day, its just a question of where. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 https://www.newsweek.com/us-election-top-issues-economy-abortion-immigration-1966274 Abortion has overtaken immigration as the second most important issue facing voters besides the economy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: Actions speak louder than words, or in politics actions speak louder than polls. There is more evidence that the top of the ticket is starting to impact down-ballot races in the swing states. Normally when running ads you embrace the candidate at the top of your ticket and say you will support them. Something else is starting to happen though. In these tough swing states Democrat candidates are now running ads touting how they have worked, and supported, Trump and Trumps policies. You don't do that if you think your candidate is pulling away in the race. Candidates are seeing something in their internal polls that has them worried that Harris will pull them down and cost their own seats. Republican candidates tried the same thing during the 2018 mid-terms and 2020 nationals when Biden was on the ticket. They knew that the top of the ticket was an anchor so they tried to abandon ship. It didnt work for them. It might work for Democrats in some of these swing states, but it also could mean there is a true cascade happening that gives the GOP more wins than expected. Theres going to be a surprise somewhere in here on election day, its just a question of where. Source? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 minute ago, SwimOdin said: Source? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/19/us/politics/casey-pennsylvania-senate-ad-trump.html https://www.axios.com/2024/10/18/senate-democrats-campaign-ads-trump-2024 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/10/21/the-telltale-signs-that-kamala-harris-blue-wall-is-crumblin/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 (edited) First one is trying to do the usual “I’m a bipartisan” thing that’s popular in swing states since it mentions Biden policies as well he supported. Second one has a sign-up wall. The third one is an opinion piece from the conservative Telegraph. A lot of candidates in swing states will promote bipartisanship. Granted, the virulently reactionary GOP is having none of it, but it has worked. That’s what this is. Promotion of bipartisanship. Edited October 22 by Jman 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 50 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/19/us/politics/casey-pennsylvania-senate-ad-trump.html https://www.axios.com/2024/10/18/senate-democrats-campaign-ads-trump-2024 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/10/21/the-telltale-signs-that-kamala-harris-blue-wall-is-crumblin/ Thanks for providing something. It’s customary to source when one prognosticates, and I’m glad for once you’re at least linking to something. Otherwise it reads as ranting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/19/us/politics/casey-pennsylvania-senate-ad-trump.html https://www.axios.com/2024/10/18/senate-democrats-campaign-ads-trump-2024 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2024/10/21/the-telltale-signs-that-kamala-harris-blue-wall-is-crumblin/ NY Times - The website isn't working for me, it requires my email before I can read the article but the page gets stuck. What I can read at the top says that Trump's campaign denounced Casey. Axios - Politician vulnerable to losing race decides to suck up to opposing side because his state is purple - not indicative of Kamala's chances, just more political bullshit from a nepo baby. Telegraph - Trying to charge me to read and I'm not signing up for a trial I'll forget to cancel. lol What are your thoughts on the people turning on Trump, is that a death knell for him as well? Do you relate to Trump calling you a basement dweller? Do you feel he was correct that if he repeats something often enough that you are gullible enough to believe it? Edited October 22 by Blackrose321 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 6 minutes ago, SwimOdin said: Thanks for providing something. It’s customary to source when one prognosticates, and I’m glad for once you’re at least linking to something. Otherwise it reads as ranting. But you can't read two of them without signing up for an account so they can nag you. >.< 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 15 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: NY Times - The website isn't working for me, it requires my email before I can read the article but the page gets stuck. What I can read at the top says that Trump's campaign denounced Casey. Axios - Politician vulnerable to losing race decides to suck up to opposing side because his state is purple - not indicative of Kamala's chances, just more political bullshit from a nepo baby. Telegraph - Trying to charge me to read and I'm not signing up for a trial I'll forget to cancel. lol What are your thoughts on the people turning on Trump, is that a death knell for him as well? Do you relate to Trump calling you a basement dweller? Do you feel he was correct that if he repeats something often enough that you are gullible enough to believe it? I dont necessarily disagree that people turning on Trump could cost him.There is a big difference between who is turning on Trump and who is turning on Harris. Trump has former staffers, and ex-office holders, turning on him. While this speaks more to his character, Liz Cheney is not going to make people question Trump. Theres also the supreme irony that Dick Cheney has endorsed Harris. The same Dick Cheny who the Left has spent years saying is a war criminal and deserves to be tried and sent to jail for life. Harris is losing people currently in office. That has a much more immediate and visual impact on things. If people are happy with their Senator, and that Senator starts to hug Trump, they may decide that its OK to also vote for Trump. Thats a very real danger for Harris. Trump has also been shedding people since basically day 1 in his office. People are a bit immune to that news. This is a new phenomenon for Harris, and its a new thing in the news. Harris is still not a well defined candidate at all, largely at her own fault for not doing media availability. Trump is Trump, and everyone knows what Trump is. It took a literal bullet hitting his ear to change his image. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 He didn’t lose anyone, he said he was bipartisan. Also the Trump campaign condemned the attempt at bipartisanship by ranting about the Radical Left. No one is going to hug Trump. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 4 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Trump has former staffers, and ex-office holders, turning on him. While this speaks more to his character, Liz Cheney is not going to make people question Trump. Theres also the supreme irony that Dick Cheney has endorsed Harris. The same Dick Cheny who the Left has spent years saying is a war criminal and deserves to be tried and sent to jail for life. Hey, I hear Hitler liked to breath air. Isn't it supreme irony that you, also, like to breath air? What are you, a Hitler?! See, nobody on the left gives a shit about Dick Cheney's endorsement. Nobody on the left likes or respects Dick Cheney. "Irony" would be if his endorsement moved the needle in any meaningful way, shape, or form. But it didn't, since everyone hates him and would have preferred if he endorsed a shotgun barrel to his own mouth. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 A few seconds of one of Bob Casey's ads totally says something about the state of the election overall. This is definitely not a case of someone imagining things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 I didn't know the Cheney endorsement was still topic for discussion....want that like in August that this was news. Is it the only thing left to cling to....no one cared weeks ago...no one cares now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 https://www.newsweek.com/election-10-22-2024-kamala-harris-donald-trump-1972922 Polling has Harris slightly being boosted from previous averages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 5 hours ago, Jman said: McDonalds shoots back at Trump claiming Harris never worked there. https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcdonalds-kamala-harris/?10222024 Funny enough, I think some of the most enlightening polls in the last few weeks have been the Trump campaign's internals that he boneheadedly released. Trump may think they show him in a positive light, but I think it shows some unflattering facts like how he does *not* expect to reach 50% of the vote in most of the individual swing states. Trump's pollster put together all the positive data he could find (which probably exaggerates where Trump will end up), and it only gets him to 49% in states like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I've heard some Trump supporting people claim his focus on getting low propensity voters (young men) to turn out suddenly is a sign that he needs to do *something* to shake up the race in those Rust Belt states. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 31 minutes ago, Belize said: I've heard some Trump supporting people claim his focus on getting low propensity voters (young men) to turn out suddenly is a sign that he needs to do *something* to shake up the race in those Rust Belt states. He's tried shitting his pants on stage. Given his base, that should be a valid start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Meanwhile, Donny’s consigliere didn’t have the cash assets to pay the judgment against him, so the courts are seizing his assets and giving them to the defendants so they can be flipped. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: It took a literal bullet hitting his ear to change his image. If you mean literally because he wore that stupid bandage on his ear for a while, then sure. Otherwise, his image in any sense of the word has not changed much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: It took a literal bullet hitting his ear to change his image. I didn't realize his image changed by nobody caring within days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Hoooooo boy. Harris was going to do this as well, but she has apparently backed out. Now Trump has a chance to go on the podcast first, and who knows whats going to happen. Im expecting a glorious train wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Master-Debater131 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 LAT has been a reliable endorsement for Democrats for 20 years. Harris breaks that streak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 The Trump campaign is apparently making up polls whole cloth. https://newrepublic.com/post/187391/donald-trump-shocking-poll-performance-fake 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, [classic swim] said: Hey... I do cocaine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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