rpgamer Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: I got Biden right, and came within an Inch of getting Trump right to. Can you imagine what it must be like living in the timeline where Trump took a load to the face and covid put Biden down? This honestly feels like smooth sailing compared to the absolute chaos we narrowly avoided.. 1 hour ago, Raptorpat said: Stefanik too do they really want Kamala to become president? all their "Trump 47" merch would go to waste, even if Trump won ......Ok, so, like.. how late could they possibly push that? Like... even if Trump does win, could Biden, say.. choose to tap out in, like, December, putting Harris in as 47 for just a couple months prior to transfer of power? Pleasepleaseplease, if everything starts going to hell, please let everyone be that petty. We need one last good laugh. 1 hour ago, scoobdog said: I was thinking it would have been more nuanced, so as to avoid the exact thing Johnson was threatening, but it looks like he was going for a more complete break. He timed it about as perfectly as he could though… right after the GOP convention. That was probably the “succession” plan itself. I was kinda mulling this over, too. After the debate, when whispers started going around.. even if he did seriously consider it, I think the optics of dropping out right after that debate would look horrible. Had to project strength as best he could for the moment, but knowing there was a limit on how long they could push it. Now is maybe more decent timing (and running out of decent time besides). Covid gives another layer, to have a fresh reminder of his health concerns, and you've got an ok narrative to say "ok, yeah, now we can do this without looking like a complete embarrassment." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Insipid Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: I got Biden right, and came within an Inch of getting Trump right to. Whoa. 💀 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I do hope that if Drumpf decides to go that route and re-cycle that 'blood coming out of...' type of comments when debating Harris [ which, let's face it, he'll be going after those types of comments anyway ], she absolutely brings up the fact that he's the one that decided to wear a maxipad on the side of his head for 7 days. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, rpgamer said: Can you imagine what it must be like living in the timeline where Trump took a load to the face and covid put Biden down? This honestly feels like smooth sailing compared to the absolute chaos we narrowly avoided.. I still half expect something to happen to keep Trump from being on the ticket in November. This timeline is throwing everything at us, and that would be the ultimate finisher. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 maybe this was the plan the WHOLE TIME!? yes. yes it was. iono...lol this is just so funny to watch. like veep meets house of cards meets meet the bushes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Hillary has endorsed Harris, but Obama has not (yet) AOC also came out and said it is far from a given that Democrats will unite behind Harris and she will get the nomination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Hahaha! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Hillary has endorsed Harris, but Obama has not (yet) AOC also came out and said it is far from a given that Democrats will unite behind Harris and she will get the nomination. this was what i was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: I still half expect something to happen to keep Trump from being on the ticket in November. This timeline is throwing everything at us, and that would be the ultimate finisher. I'm just saying.. not being on the ticket isn't necessarily the same thing as not being in the ground.. and we weren't that far off from a country mourning both expected nominees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 hours ago, discolé monade said: everybody seems so happy. but i'm pretty sure this just secured trump into the oval office. and instead of the women, this time, he'll be using the men of the family. this doesn't seem like a great idea. but, this is the decision clooney and pelosi thought best for the nation. XD I thought this for the first minute after I heard the news. The "doomed" feeling began to recede when I realized maybe there won't be a bunch of Democrats fighting each other. I'm not entirely convinced I should be relieved yet, but I am not as terrified as I thought I might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I remember JD Vance's wife's speech. She mentioned how she was Indian, as a way to show her husband's open-mindedness. Now Kamala can be like, I am a black Desi woman about to become president. Bitch, sit your ass down and stay there for the rest of time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tsar4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 RFK Jr. is supposedly making a statement right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, tsar4 said: RFK Jr. is supposedly making a statement right now. I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Belize said: I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not. No joke. It was part of some thread I was reading saying he'd be making a statement at 5pm ET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Sorry Pooh. We are going to get absolutely amazing memes out of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Mayor Johnson (Chicago) endorses Harris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Jman said: I maintain Hillary’s issue wasn’t misogyny, at least not most of it, it was being portrayed as heir apparent because she didn’t leave Bill, and that upset people. But isn’t that portrayal born from misogyny? She was a Senator and Secretary of State. Her Presidential run had over a decade of separation from her husband’s presidency. Where was she being portrayed as heir apparent because of staying married to one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I've seen people saying that from the moment she didn't leave him they knew she stayed as a scheme to become president herself, and then used NY as a stepping stone to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just now, Raptorpat said: I've seen people saying that from the moment she didn't leave him they knew she stayed as a scheme to become president herself, and then used NY as a stepping stone to get there. That’s definitely a misogynistic shit take 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 yeah, same type of people to accuse Michelle Obama or Jill Biden of being the shadow president 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 not that she didn't use NY as a stepping stone, but that kind of narrative "Lady Macbeth" framing is generally terrible and misogynistic. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 4 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: I've seen people saying that from the moment she didn't leave him they knew she stayed as a scheme to become president herself, and then used NY as a stepping stone to get there. Chicagoans knew exactly who she was once she donned a NYY ball cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Even if Democrats lose, this sets a precedent: willingly stepping down from power due to old age. Hell, they can now use George Washington quotes on this matter of transferring power. I have a smidgen of optimism again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (edited) FALSE ALARM this is an ad from 2019 that got necroretweeted https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1197243216132804608 Edited July 21 by Raptorpat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, Raptorpat said: not that she didn't use NY as a stepping stone, but that kind of narrative "Lady Macbeth" framing is generally terrible and misogynistic. She was also SoS after she was a senator. Between being First Lady, Senator and SoS, she was the most qualified presidential candidate in a long time (at that time). A man would never be questioned for their ambitions or ever be accused of using their spouse to get a leg up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Master-Debater131 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Just a reminder that Harris is such a bad candidate that Tulsi freaking Gabbard took her out during the Democratic primary in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: RFK Jr. is supposedly making a statement right now. https://x.com/semafor/status/1815147039493132354 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 13 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: https://x.com/semafor/status/1815147039493132354 In his dreams. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Figured this was coming pretty imminently. Good to see Biden making the right choice. When you lose the Daily Show as a democrat, you know you have no chance really going forward. Smart to wait till just after the republican convention till they have their ticket fully locked in now. This should significantly improve the democrats' chances. Contrary to the republican collective delusion that Trump is a stronger candidate somehow now, I think it's pretty clear he's weaker than ever. What's strengthened his position a bit really is how the right wing brainwashing machine has extended its reach and grown much more sophisticated and relentless in pounding out its programming into people's brains since he left office. The idea the republican party coming out of their convention has any kind of real unity going on is just a total illusion. The only reason it appears that way is because they don't tolerate any dissention and run anyone out of the party who doesn't march in lock step. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 the campaign infrastructure remains intact https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/1815148475627315211 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: Hillary has endorsed Harris, but Obama has not (yet) AOC also came out and said it is far from a given that Democrats will unite behind Harris and she will get the nomination. That’s code for “Time for you to start making the rounds.” It’s why she’s taken ten times the abuse Bobo and MTG have and not become a punchline. Obama is using his endorsement as an ace in the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tsar4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Wonks are pointing out Obama's statement on Joe did not endorse Harris. Neither has Pelosi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Now that Harris is probably going to be the candidate everyone should push that Trump is too old to run. If it weren’t for the Adderall he’d only be awake 2 hours a day, more house cat than man. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, tsar4 said: Important question... Did it bounce? 9 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Now that Harris is probably going to be the candidate everyone should push that Trump is too old to run. If it weren’t for the Adderall he’d only be awake 2 hours a day, more house cat than man. Don't insult house cats like that. They know how to poop in a box, not their pants. Cat President...coming soon to [ as ] if I ever actually write it... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 24 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Wonks are pointing out Obama's statement on Joe did not endorse Harris. Neither has Pelosi. Obama didn't endorse Biden until after the primary wrapped up, he wants to be the uniter after the deciders decide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 (I refuse to explain this joke further) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 https://x.com/meridithmcgraw/status/1815148611803709783 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jman Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 https://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-voters-pac-announces-support-kamala-harris-1928198 Nikki Haley’s voter PAC announces support for…Kamala. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 41 minutes ago, katt_goddess said: Did it bounce? Exactly what I asked in the thread I found it in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 43 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: Obama didn't endorse Biden until after the primary wrapped up, he wants to be the uniter after the deciders decide. Or he's gonna push his wife. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Or he's gonna push his wife. Michelle isn’t going to step in, but… I do see her possibly taking a page out of Hillary’s playbook and becoming active in the campaign. She has a lot of political capital to spend, and using it for Kamala Harris will almost certainly reap rewards. The question is, will Kamala be able to get Michelle to buy in? That’s one of the early campaign storylines that will determine how the campaign goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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