Blatch Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 No time has been announced for it, because Toonami is really sadistic and has to make every schedule change twice as complicated as it needs to be. Whatever happened to Occam's razor? But still, get hyped. Also, do you like that most of my thread titles are done as complete sentences? I think it makes them feel more casual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Of course. And it's premiering the same day as JoJo Part 4. Neat, it's been a while since we've had a proper double-premiere. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ngag3 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) Most likely, it will replace the rerun of FLCL Progressive. Which means Progressive would run again after Space Dandy ends and then we go into Alternative. Edited July 16, 2018 by 3ngag3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Here's what I think will happen: I think we'll get a double-shot of FLCL Progressive on August 11th, the week after Space Dandy ends. But I'm not sure how the rest of the slots shifting around will shake down. Honestly, I can't seem to wrap my head around it without some kind of demotion or pre-emption for Pop Team Epic. Playing the full hour of FLCL Progressive at 11:30 on 8/11 would pre-empt PTE, or perhaps displace it to its new later timeslot. Knee-jerking the schedule after FLCLP or PTE back 30 minutes one week, then up 30 minutes the next (or vice-versa) would also be bad, but I just don't see any way to play the full hour of FLCLP on 8/11 without doing so! If it stays at 11:30 and Episode 6 follows at Midnight, then the last episode of Part 3 of JoJo would fall to 1 unless PTE moves down more than 30 minutes, but how far would it fall? And would that simply become its new timeslot afterward, while everything else after it gets knee-jerked? I guess that's our best bet. So, after performing this risk assessment, here's what I believe they'll do: 8/11/18: DBS; MHA; FLCL2 x 2; JoJoP3; PTE; HxH; BC; Shippuden; Bebop; Lupin 8/18/18: DBS; MHA; AOTS3; JoJoP4; HxH; PTE; BC; Shippuden; Bebop; Lupin This way, Black Clover and Shippuden get knee-jerked down to 2 AM and 2:30 AM respectively, but only for a week. HxH, meanwhile, also gets knee-jerked down to 1:30 but then rewarded with 12:30 immediately afterward. I really can't figure out a better way to arrange it than this, and also keep the JoJo Part 3 finale in the same timeslot. Also, this doesn't explain what happens with FLCL Alternative, as there doesn't seem to be an empty timeslot for it on September 8th anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) I just noticed something interesting: MHA just happens to be showcasing a recap episode of Season 1 the week that FLCL 2 would get doubled up, IF Toonami plays this recap episode which began Season 2 in earnest. (I don't see why they wouldn't; they DID just play Black Clover's recap episode a couple of weeks ago!) So maybe IT gets moved down? That might be some sort of damage control. But I certainly wouldn't want that to happen with the rest of Season 2. However, I also cannot deny that if it were to play at a special time for one week only, and the FLCL Progressive finale got 11 and 11:30 on 8/11, that WOULD remedy the schedule-shifting issues somewhat, but unless that special time is 2:30 AM, some timeslots will still get knee-jerked. Edited July 16, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted July 16, 2018 Author Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) I've said before that the easiest way to accommodate AoT would be to just expand the block, and I still think they're going to do that. Why bother with shifting most of schedule just so FLCL Progressive can finish early? Also, it'd be awful if Pop Team Epic gets moved down the week it features Hellshake Yano. FLCL Progressive's rerun would end with a gap in the schedule, but to hell with that. Just play the premiere a third time. Or... heck, they could re-air the subbed version of Alternative's premiere from April Fools' Day. Edited July 16, 2018 by Blatch I don't give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatSoul Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 It'd be disappointing but understandable if Pop Team Epic had to shift down. Season 2 was on a three-week delay from Japan when it premiered, while season 3 is starting at a four-week delay. I doubt that'll impact ratings much, but I'm not expecting amazing numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I’m shocked. Shocked I say. Well, no, I’m not. Between this, JoJo and FLCL Alternative to something original, we should be set on the Toonami front for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korosu Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 (edited) hero notebook airing or not probably won't matter. anyway, with no time slots being announced, it could be that time slots would spoil the surprise of an expansion. i suppose yet another show could be announced for 8/18 but if not, this may be likely: moved PTE down because Tokyo Ghoul:re will probably replace it and would probably air after JoJo. DARLING in the FRANXX will probably replace FLCL Alternative reruns. Edited July 17, 2018 by korosu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, korosu said: it could be that time slots would spoil the surprise of an expansion. i suppose yet another show could be announced for 8/18 For some reason, I have a gut feeling that Madoka Magica is going to replace the Space Dandy rerun. Toonami could presumably manage that, even with two dub premieres ready to air the following week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korosu Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 at the very least we don't have too much longer to wait for details. toonami pre-flight at sdcc saturday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 36 minutes ago, Blatch said: For some reason, I have a gut feeling that Madoka Magica is going to replace the Space Dandy rerun. Toonami could presumably manage that, even with two dub premieres ready to air the following week. What would possibly lead you to Madoka of all things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Blatch said: Also, do you like that most of my thread titles are done as complete sentences? I think it makes them feel more casual. No, and put on a Tuxedo when you make these posts you filthy casual. The Monocle can be optional, but would be nice on special occasions. This is a fancy forum for only the fanciest of people. TG RE.... I really hope not. It's just more garbage. The series didn't even have enough respect for itself to put out a S2 that was cannon. A lame amnesia season won't make it better. Madoka... a 2011 anime.... about as likely as High School of the Dead ever getting aired. The next Aniplex show we get will probably be SAO3 (coming in October) AOT3 sounds good, just hope it's better than S2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korosu Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, Daos said: TG RE.... I really hope not. It's just more garbage. The series didn't even have enough respect for itself to put out a S2 that was cannon. "Ishida had specifically wanted us to create something original for the second season" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with the guy. It sounds like something that has almost no chance of working with any anime. It ended up being a horrible decision and even people who liked the franchise were pissed. After seeing Kaneki's origin story... I don't think he thinks things through sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 11 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Of course. And it's premiering the same day as JoJo Part 4. Neat, it's been a while since we've had a proper double-premiere. I think I just gagged a little. If we're going to be fine with dumpster ratings, can we at least not air dumpster shows? Dig up some actual gems maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think Jojo ran its course. I ended up dropping it about 10 episodes back. Don't need to see more of that. Can I interest you in some Gundam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I think Gundam's been in an odd place for me, personally lately. I know it's sorta always had that sociopolitical context, but I'm not sure if it's felt a little too heavy lately (at least the Toonami picks), or if I just haven't had the attention span, or maybe nostalgia is just glossing over that aspect of older iterations. But I can say that I like the idea better than basically everything else mentioned here. At least any single Gundam series is its own complete story. I mean, I guess Jojo has sorta had that going for it, too; each arc has been somewhat self contained. I just never got into the campiness, and genuinely can't tell if it's meant to be intentional or not. But still, yeah. It's kinda dragged on for a while. The monster-of-the-week format isn't so entertaining in the long run. As for AoT, well, that's just my personal distaste for the main character that ruins the show for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ah it was kind of a joke, most people here know I hate Gundam =P I didn't mind the monster of the week thing... but they just dragged it out way too long. And every time something weird happens they're like "..... Could it be ...a stand?" I'm just sitting here like YES IT'S A STAND. When weird stuff happens it's ALWAYS A STAND. This cast of characters is supposed to be super smart yet they can't figure that out. Then there's the fact that Dio hired every Stand user on the continent and then has them all attack one or two at a time... against a larger group of powerful stand users. Also, you have a guy licking a toilet, a guy getting peed on, a baby being forced to eat his own shit, and dog farts. I'm sure I would have found all that stuff hilarious when I was 14. Hmm... so you don't like that he's a one dimensional character based entirely around killing Titans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Blatch said: For some reason, I have a gut feeling that Madoka Magica is going to replace the Space Dandy rerun. Toonami could presumably manage that, even with two dub premieres ready to air the following week. I'd welcome Madoka finally airing but why do you suspect that of all things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 12 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: I just noticed something interesting: MHA just happens to be showcasing a recap episode of Season 1 the week that FLCL 2 would get doubled up, IF Toonami plays this recap episode which began Season 2 in earnest. (I don't see why they wouldn't; they DID just play Black Clover's recap episode a couple of weeks ago!) So maybe IT gets moved down? That might be some sort of damage control. But I certainly wouldn't want that to happen with the rest of Season 2. However, I also cannot deny that if it were to play at a special time for one week only, and the FLCL Progressive finale got 11 and 11:30 on 8/11, that WOULD remedy the schedule-shifting issues somewhat, but unless that special time is 2:30 AM, some timeslots will still get knee-jerked. Given it's considered episode 13.5, I dunno if they'd actually air that recap but it's dubbed. Airing 13.5 and 14 together would be a decent idea though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 yeah we all saw this coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Hell yeah I am hyped 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sketch said: Given it's considered episode 13.5, I dunno if they'd actually air that recap but it's dubbed. Airing 13.5 and 14 together would be a decent idea though. Wow, I hadn't even considered that! That WOULD be good! On August 11th, MHA would simply take over the whole 11 PM hour, and FLCL Progressive episode 5 would simply slide down to 2:30 AM following the conclusion of Space Dandy on August 4th! Then the following week, AOT S3 takes over half the 11 PM hour, while MHA remains in the other half. That way there's no need to knee-jerk the schedule to accommodate anything. You would still need some kind of special on August 25th at 2:30 AM though, or perhaps just begin a new classic series there--hell, maybe even bring back Gundam Unicorn? I would still like JoJo to slide up to 12 AM for Part 4 though. That's pretty good, Sketch. Seriously, man, you ougtta tweet DeMarco and ask him to consider that! Edited July 17, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sketch said: I'd welcome Madoka finally airing but why do you suspect that of all things? Yeah really. I don't see Aniplex getting back into the Toonami game JUST for Madoka, but the new seasons of SAO, now THAT'S possible. I suppose they could string along some "unfinished business" shows like Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Saga and Madoka someday though. But we'll certainly get GGO Alternative and/or Project Alicization first. Edited July 17, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, StarPanda said: Hell yeah I am hyped Yup, may have been expected, but hell yes, can't wait! Edited July 17, 2018 by DangerMouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBZ4ever Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I'm way behind, didn't catch season 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 8:09 PM, Blatch said: For some reason, I have a gut feeling that Madoka Magica is going to replace the Space Dandy rerun. Toonami could presumably manage that, even with two dub premieres ready to air the following week. It is absolutely not gonna be the depressing magical girl show deconstruction. Where did you even get?that idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 5 hours ago, DBZ4ever said: I'm way behind, didn't catch season 2. Hopefully [as] will see fit to provide some sort of stream of Season 2 right before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Hmmm I should probably watch this some time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CaptainStarwind Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/17/2018 at 5:24 AM, Daos said: I think Jojo ran its course. I ended up dropping it about 10 episodes back. Don't need to see more of that. I'm actually in the same boat as you here. I loved the first two seasons of JoJo. Stardust Crusaders I didn't like at the start, but it grew on me, and I'm still watching it happily. But I really don't think we need any more JoJo after this. Season 3 seems to be a good endpoint for the series, and to be completely honest I really don't have any desire to see Season 4 and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Quote: So YOU'RE to blame for the drop in ratings!? Just for sake of accuracy, Parts 1 & 2 were the 1st season, and Part 3 (Stardust Crusaders) took up the 2nd and 3rd seasons. I get it; the pacing in Part 3 seems to have issues, just for the sake of having cliffhangers, when some of these fights could have taken place within a single episode. But Part 4/Season 4 looks to be potentially different. From what little I've heard about it, it might be more like Part 2 than Part 3. You should at least give it a try! Edited July 23, 2018 by OwlChemist81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, CaptainStarwind said: I'm actually in the same boat as you here. I loved the first two seasons of JoJo. Stardust Crusaders I didn't like at the start, but it grew on me, and I'm still watching it happily. But I really don't think we need any more JoJo after this. Season 3 seems to be a good endpoint for the series, and to be completely honest I really don't have any desire to see Season 4 and beyond. Part 4 is easily the best part [of the anime]. Better than 1 or 2. Edited July 23, 2018 by naraku360 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I kind of have a toss-up between parts 2 and 4, but part 4 is really really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Hopefully Part 4 will re-kindle the interest of a lot of folks who got semi-burned-out on Part 3. That didn't happen with me, but I can understand why some people feel that way. But if you think it's gonna air before Midnight, sleep on it. Best case scenario is Josuke bitch-slaps Flop Team Epic back to 12:30, but I don't see it supplanting MHA or anything. And if you think 12:30 is too late for shows with topicals, sleep on that too. Remember, AOT S2 at 12:30 was blessed with topicals but DBZ KFC before it was not. Ditto for the last 2 episodes of One-Punch Man! I feel the August 18th schedule is gonna be DBZ, AOT, MHA, DiU, PTE, HxH, BC, NS, FLCL2, CB, and LT3, but I haven't a clue what the August 11th schedule will be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Meh I'm gonna force myself to watch all the episodes I missed as some point. Then I'll checkout season 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I blame Polnareff for Part 3 being so long. How many episodes could we have avoided if he just didn't fuck it up for everyone??? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) I made a poll on Twitter asking which show people are looking most forward to coming to Toonami in August and September, and currently JoJo Part 4: DiU and FLCL Alternative are tied for 1st place (34%). That should tell ya something. Because this is still an AOT thread, it's worth noting that it's in 3rd place with HALF as many votes (17%), and Boruto is last, down from AOTS3 by 2%. Edited July 25, 2018 by OwlChemist81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 1:09 PM, CaptainStarwind said: I'm actually in the same boat as you here. I loved the first two seasons of JoJo. Stardust Crusaders I didn't like at the start, but it grew on me, and I'm still watching it happily. But I really don't think we need any more JoJo after this. Season 3 seems to be a good endpoint for the series, and to be completely honest I really don't have any desire to see Season 4 and beyond. The DIO plot does completely wrap up with Part 3, so I can understand if you don't want to go further. On the other hand, I've seen praise given to every single subsequent JoJo's part, and this crazy Stand action does appeal to me, so I'm in this franchise for the long haul. For what it's worth, Diamond is Unbreakable is more of a stand-alone story compared to the first three parts. It's also much smaller in scope, being the first part to take place completely in Japan. As I've alluded to before, I wonder if Toonami viewers will be disappointed that it isn't a nation-hopping chase adventure with a gigantic scope and larger stakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Blatch said: The DIO plot does completely wrap up with Part 3, so I can understand if you don't want to go further. On the other hand, I've seen praise given to every single subsequent JoJo's part, and this crazy Stand action does appeal to me, so I'm in this franchise for the long haul. For what it's worth, Diamond is Unbreakable is more of a stand-alone story compared to the first three parts. It's also much smaller in scope, being the first part to take place completely in Japan. As I've alluded to before, I wonder if Toonami viewers will be disappointed that it isn't a nation-hopping chase adventure with a gigantic scope and larger stakes. So in other words it's more like Battle Tendency. I would say that was also kind of a "stand-alone" story in that the villains are only tangentially connected to the big bad of Parts 1 & 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 The good thing about Jojo is that if you like the general concept of stands, there's probably at least one part that will appeal to you. Didn't like the world-traveling quest to kick a sexy vampire's ass? How about a small town cat-and-mouse murder mystery? Or Italian Mafia wars? Or a prison break? Or a wild west horse race? Or....whatever the hell part 8 is about, literally nobody knows what's going on? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, EmpressAngel said: Or....whatever the hell part 8 is about, literally nobody knows what's going on? Hmmm super confusing Jason Bourne? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 BEETLE WRESTLING. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ngag3 Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, EmpressAngel said: Or....whatever the hell part 8 is about, literally nobody knows what's going on? Spoiler Short summary: Part 8's Jojo is actually two people merged together by a magic fruit that's being harvested by a cursed family hunted by rock people. He kept all four testicles too. Edited July 26, 2018 by 3ngag3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenoftheDorks Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 9:33 PM, 3ngag3 said: Hide contents Short summary: Part 8's Jojo is actually two people merged together by a magic fruit that's being harvested by a cursed family hunted by rock people. He kept all four testicles too. Spoiler Testicles? The important question is did he keep both dicks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ngag3 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 hours ago, QueenoftheDorks said: Reveal hidden contents Testicles? The important question is did he keep both dicks? Spoiler He does not, unfortunately, but if the disproportionate slant in his eyes is of any indication, it's probably one fucked up wang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, 3ngag3 said: Reveal hidden contents He does not, unfortunately, but if the disproportionate slant in his eyes is of any indication, it's probably one fucked up wang. Spoiler Are we really talking about JoJo or AOT here? With comments such as these, you might wonder if a defining characteristic of Titan shifters is they actually have 2 dicks...which I guess would mean female titans would have 2 clits? Good Lord--call me crazy, but I kinda hope David Production blows through this Part in a single cour when the time comes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said: Are we really talking about JoJo or AOT here? With comments such as these, you might wonder if a defining characteristic of Titan shifters is they actually have 2 dicks...which I guess would mean female titans would have 2 clits? Al, remember what we told you about ending your stories one sentence early? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Spoiler fail! Also, of course I'm only kidding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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