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nameraka Freakin Mutant

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On 12/20/2017 at 8:33 AM, KreiaDidNothingWrong said:

It was fine.
Laura Dern's character did nothing wrong.
People upset with some of the characters need to fucking rewatch the old movies and actually get a grasp on the characters they're bitching about.

except that whole not telling her crew the pointlessly secret plan. 

and staying behind to pilot a ship that's going in a straight line in space.

and not just engaging the autopilot (since empire makes it clear that autopilot is a thing that exists in starwars as luke mentions it to r2 en route to degobah)

and not using said autopilot to set up a pilotless kamikazi attack as her initial plan instead of the stupid one that she came up with that got her killed. 

but yeah, other than that, her leadership was stellar. 

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5 hours ago, nameraka said:

except that whole not telling her crew the pointlessly secret plan. 

and staying behind to pilot a ship that's going in a straight line in space.

and not just engaging the autopilot (since empire makes it clear that autopilot is a thing that exists in starwars as luke mentions it to r2 en route to degobah)

and not using said autopilot to set up a pilotless kamikazi attack as her initial plan instead of the stupid one that she came up with that got her killed. 

but yeah, other than that, her leadership was stellar. 

This really did annoy me by how pointless keeping that a secret was. By that time, the threat of traitors on board is pretty low because of imminent death, so there was no reason to keep that part of the plan to herself. I like the new sequels, but I would love them more if Disney was willing to take a chance on the plot as much as they are on casting. Like what really stands out in my mind is that battle scene on Crait with the red dirt under the white salt, but not any character besides Rose really stuck out to me. The 'both sides do bad things' spiel with del Toro felt so trite after Rogue One. 

I forgot to add that Rian Johnson needs to find someone to help him with fight scenes that use bladed weapons(including laser swords) because they were weaksauce in this movie.

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I managed to see it yesterday, though unfortunately we got stuck in the fucking parking lot and missed the opening crawl and first few minutes. So I was already pretty pissed before even sitting down to watch it. Maybe that hurt it for me, but honestly it was a 7 out of 10 at best and I feel like I'd feel that way regardless. First let me say that the last hour or so actually saved it. I was really not feeling things early on, and the worst of that feeling came as Finn and whatsherface were riding those goddamn awful looking horses.(Though the tentacle beasts in Force Awakens still looked worse.) That entire casino plot was so fucking boring and unnecessary. Really wish it wasn't in the film. It also felt like the movie was 50% Empire Strikes Back just done out of order or with slight tweeks(Like Hoth? Now it's last instead of first! Enjoyed how the Millenium Falcon's hyper drive wasn't working? Well now we're actually gonna track them by hyper drive or light speed or whatever it was! And wanna see Luke mimic Yoda to train Rey?) 25% Return of the Jedi(As someone whose favorite character in all of Star Wars is Palpatine every time Snoke was on screen I wanted to shout fuck you you awful ripoff! They even used the Emperor's Theme briefly while he was holding up Rey. And then even had him show her her friends dying like Palpatine did to Luke, give me a fucking break. Literally the only thing he didn't do was zap her with Force Lightning, though he did briefly show it off earlier in the film because of fucking course he had to.) and 25% new stuff. Some of which, the casino plot, was a chore to sit through as I've said.

So what did I like? I liked that they killed off Snoke because fuck him. He deserved to go out like a bitch. Hell at least Palpatine was busy shocking the crap out of Luke before Vader blindsided him. I liked most of Luke at the end. Facing the AT AT knockoffs or whatever they were and then Kylo. I didn't like him actually dying though, that seemed unnecessary. I know he'll be a ghost in the next one, but part of me suspects had Disney known Carrie Fisher was gonna die he'd have lived. Ironically she lived in the film too. I felt like Finn probably should have succeeded in sacrificing himself with that kamikaze attack. That would have made a nice moment and fitting end for him but knew there was no chance of it actually happening. I loved the Darth Sidious name drop Luke gave. Like I said, Palpatine's my favorite! xD And uh....that might be it? Yoda's random cameo just felt random. Neither good nor bad. It confused me how Frank Oz perfectly mimicked his original trilogy Yoda voice here....but not in the prequels. Did George specifically tell him to make Yoda sound different in those cause they were set in the past? I get he's younger but you wouldn't think an 870 year old creature would sound that drastically different at 900! C-3PO had the opposite problem. Anthony Daniels must be getting old or something because boy was he sounding weak here. And speaking of not to speak ill of the dead or anything but yeah, Carrie Fisher sounded like she was struggling to say her lines. Like she needed to be on oxygen or something may she rest in peace. Her whole little force scene was extremely silly and absurd, but I'm willing to overlook it.

The biggest thing I'm left wondering now is...what's next? Now that this film managed to rip off Empire AND Jedi there's nothing more to rip off for episode IX so it pretty much HAS to be original. Is it really just gonna be Kylo as the big bad? He doesn't really feel powerful enough for that, but who else? Phasma was unceremoniously killed off after doing basically nothing making her this trilogies Boba Fett. And obviously Snoke's gone. At the same time I absolutely DO NOT want to see Snoke somehow magically come back or anything like that so if that's my only other option I'll take Kylo. And Mad Eye Moody's son I guess but I think of him as more of an Admiral Piett kinda character at this point. I really, really, really hope the next film has a good lightsaber fight though regardless. This new trilogy is in sore need of one. The one in the Force Awakens was okay at best and we didn't even actually get one in this film. Not a true one anyway. I don't count Rey and Kylo using them to fight those Emperor's Guard knockoffs. I'd sooner count that brief skirmish Rey had with Luke with the sticks. That I wish had gone on a bit more, that was actually pretty decently cool. People bash the prequel saber duels for being too choreographed or whatnot and that's fair. I certainly still love them but it's fair. But at least give us something on par with Luke vs Vader in Empire or Jedi in episode IX, please. In visual execution at least as I'd say they've already failed in making me care about Rey and Kylo as much as I did Vader and Luke, or Anakin and Obi-Wan, or Yoda and Palpatine. That ship has sailed. I felt indifferent towards the boy showing off force powers ending.

Overall I would much sooner watch the entire original trilogy and Revenge of the Sith over this again any day of the week. Is it better than Force Awakens? I honestly can't decide. Both are 7/10s tops so I don't know. Maybe Star Wars just isn't for me anymore. I don't feel the same connection to these new movies. I'll definitely still give IX a shot though in 2 years, assuming I'm still here and able.

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1 hour ago, BUU8800 said:

And speaking of not to speak ill of the dead or anything but yeah, Carrie Fisher sounded like she was struggling to say her lines. Like she needed to be on oxygen or something may she rest in peace.

Actors reread their lines in the studio after shooting, but she died before she did hers so that's why. She's the only one with her original on-set audio.

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