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9 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

Texas gov Abbott states he will arrest democratic representatives for opposing voting-rights reduction bill.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-abbott-says-dems-who-fled-state-over-elections-bill-will-be-arrested-upon-return

Holy shit, Delaware seriously has ZERO days of early voting? That's fucking madness

And, another supremely dishonest summary, as always. I gotta give it up to the lie master.

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2 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

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Lol @ them trying to imply that texts aren’t already monitored 🙄

seriously though I don’t think this is what they’re saying it is.  I don’t think if I sent my dad a false info text it would be intercepted. It’s probably more like if an organization tried to send me a false text it would have a fact check attached to it.  Even if it were individual people it would be a filter bot looking for words, finding them an attaching a fact check. 
 

ngl sounds annoying and mistakes prone if that’s what it is or would be. 

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Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff under Trump-

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Milley spoke to friends, lawmakers and colleagues about the threat of a coup, and the Joint Chiefs chairman felt he had to be "on guard" for what might come.

"They may try, but they're not going to f**king succeed," Milley told his deputies, according to the authors. "You can't do this without the military. You can't do this without the CIA and the FBI. We're the guys with the guns."

In the days leading up to January 6, Leonnig and Rucker write, Milley was worried about Trump's call to action. "Milley told his staff that he believed Trump was stoking unrest, possibly in hopes of an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and call out the military."

Milley viewed Trump as "the classic authoritarian leader with nothing to lose," the authors write, and he saw parallels between Adolf Hitler's rhetoric as a victim and savior and Trump's false claims of election fraud.

"This is a Reichstag moment," Milley told aides, according to the book. "The gospel of the Führer."

Ahead of a November pro-Trump "Million MAGA March" to protest the election results, Milley told aides he feared it "could be the modern American equivalent of 'brownshirts in the streets,'" referring to the pro-Nazi militia that fueled Hitler's rise to power.

"Here's the deal, guys: These guys are Nazis, they're boogaloo boys, they're Proud Boys. These are the same people we fought in World War II.

https://www.salon.com/2021/07/16/donald-trumps-military-coup-didnt-quite-happen--but-it-was-much-closer-than-we-knew/

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democratic-congresswoman-among-9-arrested-voting-rights-protest-n1274129

"WASHINGTON — Rep. Joyce Beatty, D-Ohio, was one of nine people arrested Thursday at a voting rights demonstration in the Hart Senate Office Building — an arrest the Congressional Black Caucus chair celebrated on social media.

"#GoodTrouble," Beatty, 71, tweeted after she was led off in plastic cuffs — a reference to her late friend Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., the civil rights icon.

 

Beatty, wearing a T-shirt that read "Protect Our Voting Rights," had led a group of protesters into the building in the Capitol complex, where they chanted "Pass For the People Act," the sweeping voting rights legislation that is stalled in the Senate.

Capitol Police said the group was "demonstrating in a prohibited area on Capitol grounds" and ignored commands to disperse. Video of Beatty's arrest showed her chanting "Fight for justice" as she was led away.

"Let the people vote," Beatty tweeted along with pictures of her arrest.

In a statement, Beatty said: "I stand in solidarity with Black women and allies across the country in defense of our constitutional right to vote. We have come too far and fought too hard to see everything systematically dismantled and restricted by those who wish to silence us. Be assured that this is just the beginning. This is Our Power, Our Message."

These insurrectionists should be held without bail in solitary confinement until trial....

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1 hour ago, Ginguy said:

 

These insurrectionists should be held without bail in solitary confinement until trial....

 

Yes. Insurrectionists should be held without bail in solitary confinement until trial. 

Too bad they got to go on Mexican vacations and go back to live with their mommies or claim that watching 'Schindler's List' should count towards time served. 

How many people were killed at this protest or as a result of said protest?  0

How many were arrested immediately on the day of and were walked out in little plastic cuffs? 9

Since I answered those hard questions for you, you can answer these : 

How many people were killed at the Jan 6th 'protest' or as a result of said 'protest' ?

How many were arrested immediately on the day of and walked peacefully out in little plastic cuffs? 

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I am sure an elderly congresswoman going for the cliché photo op of getting arrested at a civil rights demonstration is the same as a fired-up mob physically overpowering security officers, literally scaling walls and breaking windows/doors to commandeer the capitol - wherein they broke into private offices, accessed classified or otherwise private materials, stole public property, tased themselves in the balls, and disrupted the democratic/electoral process by forcing Congress evacuate for their own safety.

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19 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

How many people were killed at the Jan 6th 'protest' or as a result of said 'protest' ?

How many were arrested immediately on the day of and walked peacefully out in little plastic cuffs? 

3.   2 were medical in nature; one was violent. Her name was Ashli Babbitt.

Approximately 570 have been charged since. Not sure of the arrest total for Jan. 6th.

 

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Raptorpat said:

I am sure an elderly congresswoman going for the cliché photo op of getting arrested at a civil rights demonstration is the same as a fired-up mob physically overpowering security officers, literally scaling walls and breaking windows/doors to commandeer the capitol - wherein they broke into private offices, accessed classified or otherwise private materials, stole public property, tased themselves in the balls, and disrupted the democratic/electoral process by forcing Congress evacuate for their own safety.

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/965472049/the-capitol-siege-the-arrested-and-their-stories

It's kind of funny, when you look at the charging information an overwhelming majority of the charges are "Knowingly Entering or Remaining in any Restricted Building or Grounds Without Lawful Authority".

Literally trespassing, and likely the same charges that the Representative will be charged with, if she is charged at all (want to take a bet her being charged). I'm sure she was released almost immediately and allowed to return to work/home without bail.

It's been while since I've taken a Civics course, but I seem to recall something about "equality before the law" or some such notion.

 

Yes, the ones charged with violent offenses should be held, or at least have some degree of bail required. The ones arrested for trespassing, probably not.

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1 hour ago, Ginguy said:

3.   2 were medical in nature; one was violent. Her name was Ashli Babbitt.

Approximately 570 have been charged since. Not sure of the arrest total for Jan. 6th.

 

Incorrect.

5 died directly to that day. 2 knuckle draggers had 'medical emergencies' including the thief who supposedly tazed himself in the balls, 1 was crushed to death by the very idiots she was mobbing with, 1 was shot illegally entering through a broken window in order to gain access to a restricted area full of fleeing officials [ gee, your kind usually cheer for the 'Stand Your Ground' shit... ] , and Officer Sicknick. 2 more officers died by suicide after having to deal with it all. Ashli Babbit is not a martyr to the cause - she was shot breaking and entering a government building.

5 were detained on the 6th outside the building but not arrested due to the chaos. The earliest actual physical arrest however didn't occur until the following day. 1 person. And he was arrested because he decided to go on a power trip on a Delta flight LEAVING the area which caused them to turn around to punt him off where he was recognized as one of the people who went apeshit in the Capital. 1 person whose ego outed him before he could get back to mommy's basement. The rest - allowed to flee the area and go brag about their shit on social media until, you know, they got rounded up because non-morons realized that a line had definitely been crossed. 

It was not peaceful. It was not 'full of love' . They were not 'patriots' . They were pinheads led by a pinworm who can't even use stairs because his cow legs won't let him. 

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1/6 would have been just another day if we did the right thing and criminalized the GOP. We tried having competing parties and ideologies. It has only FAILED and Trump and his ilk are proof of that. To protect democracy, you have to have a Democrat-only, one-party state. Ban all right-wing media to protect the vulnerable. That's what I'd do if I were POTUS.

Those rioters all deserve the harshest punishments for treason, and no 8th Amendment protections. They don't deserve any rights after what they did. NONE of them do.

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17 minutes ago, Real_AirCooledGirl said:

1/6 would have been just another day if we did the right thing and criminalized the GOP. We tried having competing parties and ideologies. It has only FAILED and Trump and his ilk are proof of that. To protect democracy, you have to have a Democrat-only, one-party state. Ban all right-wing media to protect the vulnerable. That's what I'd do if I were POTUS.

Those rioters all deserve the harshest punishments for treason, and no 8th Amendment protections. They don't deserve any rights after what they did. NONE of them do.

You tell em

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Well hey, at least they didn't mean to steal things or do damage.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporter-capitol-rioters-there-to-overthrow-government-2021-7

Saundra Kiczenski, a 56-year-old from Michigan who entered the Capitol on January 6:

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"We weren't there to steal things. We weren't there to do damage. We were just there to overthrow the government."

 

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12 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

Well hey, at least they didn't mean to steal things or do damage.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporter-capitol-rioters-there-to-overthrow-government-2021-7

Saundra Kiczenski, a 56-year-old from Michigan who entered the Capitol on January 6:

 

 

12 hours ago, SwimModSponges said:

We weren't there to do damage. We were just there to overthrow the government."

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Incorrect

Officer Sicknick died from natural causes according to the Medical Examiner's report.

https://apnews.com/article/politics-government-and-politics-b497800805aedae48b72bc4837b90042

"But the determination of a natural cause of death means the medical examiner found that a medical condition alone caused his death — it was not brought on by an injury."

 

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2 hours ago, Ginguy said:

Incorrect

Officer Sicknick died from natural causes according to the Medical Examiner's report.

https://apnews.com/article/politics-government-and-politics-b497800805aedae48b72bc4837b90042

"But the determination of a natural cause of death means the medical examiner found that a medical condition alone caused his death — it was not brought on by an injury."

 

True. 

I don't want to see the deaths of cops who died of natural causes like strokes they had alone at home while off the clock being blamed on protestors who made their job stressful earlier in the day. 

That's an absurd and dangerous precedent. 

Edit: cop suicides too. Suicide is sad.

If a cop commits suicide it isn't the fault of anyone who made their cop job harder on any given day. 

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3 hours ago, Ginguy said:

Incorrect

Officer Sicknick died from natural causes according to the Medical Examiner's report.

https://apnews.com/article/politics-government-and-politics-b497800805aedae48b72bc4837b90042

"But the determination of a natural cause of death means the medical examiner found that a medical condition alone caused his death — it was not brought on by an injury."

 

Counter argument - would he have died in the time frame he did if he hadn't been attacked and put under that level of pressure and distress on Jan 6th? 

With the level of whitewashing currently being attempted about the INSURRECTION - they were just touring the place, it was peaceful, they did nothing wrong, nothing actually happened, media overstated / made up everything, that lady was a total patriot who took a blast to the face while innocently sniffing flowers - no statements regarding his life expectancy would have been allowed anyway. Quite frankly, claiming that getting smacked in the skull and maced while attempting to keep a mob of screaming jackasses from overrunning the Capital had absolutely nothing to do with that person having a stroke is farcical. If he had had a stroke standing on the sidewalk during a Black Lives Matter march, you'd be in here insisting on murder charges.

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Never believe that jingo is completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The jingo have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

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43 minutes ago, katt_goddess said:

Counter argument - would he have died in the time frame he did if he hadn't been attacked and put under that level of pressure and distress on Jan 6th? 

How many tears are you going to shed for some cop who died of health problems which no amount of crying will ever prove were caused by his hard day at work being a cop?

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I really don't think Gaetz will face any reprocussions at all, and if any punishment is attempted i fully expect him to play the victim and push the story as deep state libs coming to take away everyones freedom.

Again though i fully expect that before there is even a chance for him to be taken in we'll have another insurrection. 

They're getting real antsy as august approaches.

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6 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

I really don't think Gaetz will face any reprocussions at all, and if any punishment is attempted i fully expect him to play the victim and push the story as deep state libs coming to take away everyones freedom.

Again though i fully expect that before there is even a chance for him to be taken in we'll have another insurrection. 

They're getting real antsy as august approaches.

I’m more concerned about other children being exploited then any farce of an insurrection. I mean, people are moving on with the presidency.

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2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

Gaetz about to get locked up for sex trafficking, a crime the gop claims to care soooo much about, still showing up on the state propaganda media channels as if nothing ever happened 🙄

To double back on this- rightwing celebrity Tucker Carlson is implicated in this as well, and folks are claiming that the video of the man calling him a terrible human being was a CIA plot.

Nobody is going to face reprocussions. 

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1 minute ago, SwimModSponges said:

To double back on this- rightwing celebrity Tucker Carlson is implicated in this as well, and folks are claiming that the video of the man calling him a terrible human being was a CIA plot.

Nobody is going to face reprocussions. 

I saw that conspiracy theory that seems to originate from a site called “we love Trump” or some shit like that. 
 

almost immediately Gaetz threw Carlson under the buss, mentioning a time they hung out together, something Tucker denied right away 

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Yeah, I guess there’s no point in making yourself crazy over Trump right now. We’ll be forced to pay attention to him soon enough, when he runs for the presidency.  I’m assuming he’s running and will willingly give up his position as speaker of the house 💩🙄💩🙄💩

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7 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said:

So i should just ignore the creeping fascism? 

Because thats worked out so well throughout history.

I don't "go looking" for anything. 

In the morning i sit on the toilet and read the news.

Also thats what rants is here for.

I guess. Just seems unhealthy for you.

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We're in an unhealthy place as a nation.

Just over 200 days ago there was a literal coup attempt that came within feet of succeeding. 

And the people who aren't pretending it didn't happen are making jokes about it.

The nation is being gaslit into the belief that it was no big deal, that it won't happen again, and even if it does happen it won't be serious and we won't see any actual consequences.

Its all a big joke, its all funny.

Just like when Trump was running for president- it was hilarious.

And when he won- it was crazy but it's not like it meant anything.

Nothing bad could ever happen here. We've got institutions in place, surely if something illegal or dangerous were to happen people would be held to account. Surely nothing could harm us.

"As a nation of free men we will live forever" and thats the end of the quote and we have nothing to worry about.

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