naraku360 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 12 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said: your equating trump to hitler. kamala to generic. i disagree. but to answer your question, yes im gonna vote to keep my loved one alive. Which part of the statement "it is hypothetical" is the difficult part? "It" refers to the question. "Is" indicates the state of being at a present tense. "Hypothetical" describes the type of question referenced by "it", being one that is not identical to reality. I physically cannot explain more clearly. I am saying that Trump, and the GOP, are astronomically more dangerous to our loved ones than Harris. You can gesture at global genocides that both parties will support all year, and it will not change that the GOP openly wants anyone you know that is not a straight white guy with significant amounts of wealth to be dead or miserable. If you are going to claim that democrats want to burn our education system to the ground, delete all welfare, criminalize contraceptives, and reverse civil rights to the 1800s, then fucking show us. Because I don't see it in "generic" but I do see it in the GOP because the GOP is screaming it. There are 2 possibilities if you think blue is as bad as red. Only 2. You either have not followed politics worth a shit for several years. Or you are lying and/or stupid. The fact you're this offended and defensive over a mere comparison of Trump to Hitler gives me some idea as to what the answer to that may be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 30 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said: you can add biden and harris to those names too. and yes, people struggling more than they were 4 years ago. How are people struggling more? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 14 minutes ago, André Toulon said: Bro, Trump went after the FDA because he wanted to inject bleach and send people back to work fast food so he could get 2 for $4. He in no fucking way gave a fuck about childhood obesity...where did you even get that. Like I really want to know...what vlogger told you that. im just saying what good the fda did for us before trump. have you seen the comparison of europes version of the fda? they motto goes something like, we wont allow it until proven safe, vs the fda which is something like we wont remove it until proven dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 21 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said: have you seen the shit the fda has allowed long before trump? so much shit we shouldnt be eating like soda, or cereal with high sugar making us get diabetes as kids! the cooking oil they use. growth hormones on farm animals, gmo crops. corporations like monsanto poisoning our food. I don't think we show abolish the FDA just because they fuck us sometimes. There is one party that would like to get rid of all food regulations. I wonder which one that would be. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 7 minutes ago, scoobdog said: How are people struggling more? everything is more expensive because of inflation and wages not keeping up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, naraku360 said: I don't think we show abolish the FDA just because they fuck us sometimes. There is one party that would like to get rid of all food regulations. I wonder which one that would be. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... of course they do, thats what the system is design to do, maximize profits no matter the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said: the same one i supported in 2016, jill stein. https://www.jillstein2024.com/platform Just don't vote for president. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said: everything is more expensive because of inflation and wages not keeping up. That's all corporate greed fucko. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said: im just saying what good the fda did for us before trump. have you seen the comparison of europes version of the fda? they motto goes something like, we wont allow it until proven safe, vs the fda which is something like we wont remove it until proven dangerous. .....But what does that have to do with Kamala, or Biden for that matter. I'll concede last I heard they were on some food recycling shit but I didn't look into it....I kinda just figured since we sell lab meat, this was just another way of saying we may cut your food with poop to maximize profits. I'll be interested if Reps are against it. The FDA has staying vigilant in making sure people know several forms of birth control are completely safe despite rvw being overturned....that won't last if Trump gets into office. But what's Jill Stein's stance on FDA reform. A link would be nice, but I won't hold my breath 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jd-vance-kamala-harris-childless-cat-ladies-trump-b2602793.html JD Vance continues to be very weird, but with a thousandth of Trump’s charisma as “what a poor person thinks a rich person is” he’s more bizarre and off putting than anything. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 29 minutes ago, André Toulon said: But what's Jill Stein's stance on FDA reform. A link would be nice, but I won't hold my breath I would go so far as to argue these are the sorts of things that barely even factor for third party voters, by design of the system. Candidates like this get to talk a big game with lofty ideals and no logistical way to achieve them, attracting voters just like this who think these candidates will "stick it to corporations" or some shit.. when the reality is these candidates are so far off the radar that the corporations in charge just don't even give a shit. But, being politicians, you can bet your ass that if they ever had enough sway to be influential, they'd be getting bought off like everyone else. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 hours ago, scoobdog said: How are people struggling more? Faux Noise and Caveman Grunt Network have been screaming about it since Jan 7, 2020 because they needed a distraction. Which obviously makes it absolutely true and real. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 This is just an amazing piece of journalisming. Trying to tie Harris to Biden? Bitch, she is the VP. Its the Biden-Harris administration. Community Notes hit this one with an amazing note with just how absurd this piece of propaganda is. Politico is outright campaigning for Harris at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Well, shes finally going to do an interview, and in the process of setting it up she confirms, yet again, just how fucking stupid she is. First off she is going to go with Dana Bash, the single easiest interview she possibly could have. Its the cupcake of cupcake interviewers, and even with that she isnt capable of doing it alone and has to bring her dad along so he can help when she gets in trouble. Bringing Waltz along is a clear sign that she is incapable of doing an interview on her own. Throw this in with her insane demands for the debate and its beyond clear at this point that shes an absolute moron who is incapable of doing even the most basic activities required to campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ohhhhhh man is this hilarious. After spending years saying the wall was racist and a waste of money shes now on board with the idea of a wall. She even still has her tweet up saying its stupid and she will block it. Its just amazing how bad at this she is. No wonder Tulsi Gabbard took her out before she was able to collect a single vote in the 2020 primary. First she tole Trumps no tax on tips, then the child tax credit, now the border wall, give it a week and shes going to dye her hair blonde and talk about real estate deals shes made while in DC. Oh, and JD Vance called it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 In resurfaced remarks, Vance bashes teachers union president for not having 'some of her own' children Oh look, taxation without representation is back in the form of MAGAts. Now they are moving to deny rights to women who they can't turn into handmaids. They've already tried to restrict access to birth control, they plan to ban abortion, I mean it's so obvious that to be a MAGAt is to be pro-rape at this point. This is some braindead, animalistic, barbaric bullshit. Trump's running mate previously admitted to telling his 7 year-old to shut to "shut the hell up" about Pikachu And then once they have their little "miracles", they can't be pissed to even talk to them. Can we just leave the breeding kink as a porn category and not a real approach to life? This is what sexual repression looks like people, it's ugly... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Trump also wants no taxes on bonuses, while Kamala doesn't. Conveniently left that out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 4 hours ago, stilgar said: Just don't vote for president. They basically aren't, it's a self-righteous, self-serving, non-plan that achieves nothing good. In effect, it's no different from voting Republican. You are consciously deciding to abandon the most vulnerable members of society (LGBTQ+, women, children, POC), to leave the democratic process open to attack, because your morals don't expand far enough to include other humans. You see a candidate openly saying "you'll never have to vote again if I win" and you care so little you'd rather throw your vote away now than wait 4 more years to throw it away later? No, that's not about morals or the future, that's about refusing to adapt to reality because you can't admit you made a mistake. Stein isn't going to win. And if Trump wins, no one will have to worry about their silly little third party anymore cuz ain't nobody gonna be voting. Yeah yeah yeah, I know, it sucks to vote defensively but the sooner everyone checks back into Adult Land, the sooner we can get on with our lives. A lot of things suck. You gotta deal with it. As a woman, it really sucks that, if I can't sleep, I can't just go for a walk because it's not safe. Knowing that and still deciding to do it anyways because "I should be able to" doesn't change what is. Based on many past experiences, I will likely be catcalled, propositioned, and screamed at. It's easy to tell who hasn't had to adapt to less than stellar circumstances before now. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the closest that a third party candidate has ever come to winning was Teddy Roosevelt, who had already won the presidency once by running as a Republican. He pulled just over 27% of the vote. Now let's actually think this through - 27% is huge. Those votes had to come from somewhere. Where do we think they came from? Hint: Woodrow Wilson won that year. Stein hasn't won a thing. She has nothing to bank on. In 2016, when third parties were getting a bit more attention, she still only got 1.1% of the popular vote. Howie Hawkins only got .2% in 2020. It's idealism with no teeth, which really irritates me because it's illogical. You are voting for a candidate that you know won't win, what point are you trying to prove? What have you achieved? You can pat yourself on the back while we turn into Gilead. That's it. Edited August 28 by Blackrose321 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 11 minutes ago, PenguinBoss said: Trump also wants no taxes on bonuses, while Kamala doesn't. Conveniently left that out. Really? Well damn, I like his position more then. We get bonuses on work if we hit targets or have profit. Would be awesome if that wasnt taxed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Really? Well damn, I like his position more then. We get bonuses on work if we hit targets or have profit. Would be awesome if that wasnt taxed. Girl you ain't gettin' no bonuses. That policy is for rich people who get millions in bonuses but "can't afford" to pay their employees. You aren't a temporarily embarrassed millioniare. 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Really? Well damn, I like his position more then. We get bonuses on work if we hit targets or have profit. Would be awesome if that wasnt taxed. That also applies to your boss who gets a shitload way more money for their bonuses 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 If I heard MD start to extol the virtues of Trickle Down Theory I'm going to stroke out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: Girl you ain't gettin' no bonuses. That policy is for rich people who get millions in bonuses but "can't afford" to pay their employees. You aren't a temporarily embarrassed millioniare. I do get bonuses. Its written into our company policy, and its a clear performance bonus for individuals, teams, and the company as a whole. We hit a profit goal, we get profit shares. Ive had entire an entire month worth of paychecks in a single profit share before. So yea, I do get bonuses. And if those are not taxed? Ohhhhh boy, that would make me so happy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: I do get bonuses. Its written into our company policy, and its a clear performance bonus for individuals, teams, and the company as a whole. We hit a profit goal, we get profit shares. Ive had entire an entire month worth of paychecks in a single profit share before. So yea, I do get bonuses. And if those are not taxed? Ohhhhh boy, that would make me so happy. I guess we don't need taxes anymore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: I guess we don't need taxes anymore It should be well established by now that I think taxes are just the legalized theft of my labor. I do understand the point of taxes, I just will never not believe they are anything but the theft of my labor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 11 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: It should be well established by now that I think taxes are just the legalized theft of my labor. I do understand the point of taxes, I just will never not believe they are anything but the theft of my labor. I would say that your bosses are stealing more labor from you than the government. But that's just me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 32 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: I do get bonuses. Its written into our company policy, and its a clear performance bonus for individuals, teams, and the company as a whole. We hit a profit goal, we get profit shares. Ive had entire an entire month worth of paychecks in a single profit share before. So yea, I do get bonuses. And if those are not taxed? Ohhhhh boy, that would make me so happy. Uh huh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 25 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: It should be well established by now that I think taxes are just the legalized theft of my labor. Could you establish how you intend to pay for your police and military without taxes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Blackrose321 said: Could you establish how you intend to pay for your police and military without taxes? I did say further in that post that I understand the point of taxes. You dont have those things without taxes, unless you go back to lotteries paying for everything like we used to. Just because I understand how it works and the point of them doesnt mean I have to like it or think its OK that other people think they are entitled to the fruits of my labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Master-Debater131 said: I did say further in that post that I understand the point of taxes. You dont have those things without taxes, unless you go back to lotteries paying for everything like we used to. Just because I understand how it works and the point of them doesnt mean I have to like it or think its OK that other people think they are entitled to the fruits of my labor. See, I agree with you on that, I think we should enjoy the fruits of our labor. But I think that means you need a fair wage before we start looking at corporate bonuses. Wages have stagnated. It is pure fucking madness that Walmart, a billion dollar corporation, underpays their employees so much that they are on food stamps. Food stamps that they spend at Walmart. They double dip and the Republican ideology states that this is fine. So your taxes go towards those food stamps, so Walmart can keep paying the lowest wage possible. Why would that not piss you off? After they double dip, they don't pay their fair share in taxes, even though you do. And when they talk about increasing cost of items, we factually know that they gouge, they did it all through COVID - an item that you don't have to even buy could come up by 10 cents, but they'll raise it by 50 cents and pocket the extra 40 cents for those bonuses you don't want to tax, and there are no regulations in place to stop it. You cannot, in good faith, argue for the "fruits of your labor" and support that, they are conflicting notions. This country was built on the backs of laborers, when did we get so snotty about working less glamorous jobs? Walmart requires labor, they want their stores open, they don't want them closed until after school lets out M-F. They gain a HUGE benefit in being open, and that requires adults willing to work. Those adults deserve to live. No one is saying they deserve a Lambo, 3 vacations a year, and a yacht. They should be able to eat, they shouldn't be on food stamps. They are contributing by keeping a major business open. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 9 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: Could you establish how you intend to pay for your police and military without taxes? Look if MD wants to live without taxes she can live off the grid in a cabin in the woods. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, matrixman124 said: Look if MD wants to live without taxes she can live off the grid in a cabin in the woods. No lie, that sounds amazing to me right now but I feel like I wouldn't keep up with things and I'd freeze to death or something. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: No lie, that sounds amazing to me right now but I feel like I wouldn't keep up with things and I'd freeze to death or something. Basically libertarians in a nut shell lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Blackrose321 said: See, I agree with you on that, I think we should enjoy the fruits of our labor. But I think that means you need a fair wage before we start looking at corporate bonuses. Wages have stagnated. It is pure fucking madness that Walmart, a billion dollar corporation, underpays their employees so much that they are on food stamps. Food stamps that they spend at Walmart. They double dip and the Republican ideology states that this is fine. So your taxes go towards those food stamps, so Walmart can keep paying the lowest wage possible. Why would that not piss you off? After they double dip, they don't pay their fair share in taxes, even though you do. And when they talk about increasing cost of items, we factually know that they gouge, they did it all through COVID - an item that you don't have to even buy could come up by 10 cents, but they'll raise it by 50 cents and pocket the extra 40 cents for those bonuses you don't want to tax, and there are no regulations in place to stop it. You cannot, in good faith, argue for the "fruits of your labor" and support that, they are conflicting notions. This country was built on the backs of laborers, when did we get so snotty about working less glamorous jobs? Walmart requires labor, they want their stores open, they don't want them closed until after school lets out M-F. They gain a HUGE benefit in being open, and that requires adults willing to work. Those adults deserve to live. No one is saying they deserve a Lambo, 3 vacations a year, and a yacht. They should be able to eat, they shouldn't be on food stamps. They are contributing by keeping a major business open. Regarding Wal-mart, I 100% agree with you. There was an idea floated for a while about a corporate welfare tax where if a company over a specific size had a percentage of people on welfare they would be taxed to make up for essentially using welfare to make up for their wages. never went anywhere, but thats an idea I do agree with. I would also argue that the single biggest hurdle people have for living a better life is the theft of their income through taxes. Its not just income tax people pay. You are taxed at every single step of your life. You have a paycheck that is taxed. Then you go to the store, which is taxed. Own a house or rent something, which is taxed. Utilities, also taxed. Have a phone, taxed. Participate in the economy by going to a movie, taxed. Sports event, taxed. Ever single thing we do is taxed. Its insidious how much we truly pay in taxes. If we truly wanted people to get ahead we would simplify taxes by eliminating huge chunks of them, crack down on companies like wal-mart, and reign in government spending. We wont because its way more convenient for the ruling class to have everyone bickering all the time, but thats the simply way to get people ahead in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Regarding Wal-mart, I 100% agree with you. There was an idea floated for a while about a corporate welfare tax where if a company over a specific size had a percentage of people on welfare they would be taxed to make up for essentially using welfare to make up for their wages. never went anywhere, but thats an idea I do agree with. I would also argue that the single biggest hurdle people have for living a better life is the theft of their income through taxes. Its not just income tax people pay. You are taxed at every single step of your life. You have a paycheck that is taxed. Then you go to the store, which is taxed. Own a house or rent something, which is taxed. Utilities, also taxed. Have a phone, taxed. Participate in the economy by going to a movie, taxed. Sports event, taxed. Ever single thing we do is taxed. Its insidious how much we truly pay in taxes. If we truly wanted people to get ahead we would simplify taxes by eliminating huge chunks of them, crack down on companies like wal-mart, and reign in government spending. We wont because its way more convenient for the ruling class to have everyone bickering all the time, but thats the simply way to get people ahead in life. If we got paid more, taxes would not hurt as much 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: Regarding Wal-mart, I 100% agree with you. There was an idea floated for a while about a corporate welfare tax where if a company over a specific size had a percentage of people on welfare they would be taxed to make up for essentially using welfare to make up for their wages. never went anywhere, but thats an idea I do agree with. I would also argue that the single biggest hurdle people have for living a better life is the theft of their income through taxes. Its not just income tax people pay. You are taxed at every single step of your life. You have a paycheck that is taxed. Then you go to the store, which is taxed. Own a house or rent something, which is taxed. Utilities, also taxed. Have a phone, taxed. Participate in the economy by going to a movie, taxed. Sports event, taxed. Ever single thing we do is taxed. Its insidious how much we truly pay in taxes. If we truly wanted people to get ahead we would simplify taxes by eliminating huge chunks of them, crack down on companies like wal-mart, and reign in government spending. We wont because its way more convenient for the ruling class to have everyone bickering all the time, but thats the simply way to get people ahead in life. Sales tax can suck it. Yours truly, Oregon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: If we got paid more, taxes would not hurt as much If you get paid more you have a large amount of your income taxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 20 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Look if MD wants to live without taxes she can live off the grid in a cabin in the woods. If you are trying to sell me a cabin, you are doing a good job of it. Also, that was a criminally underrated movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: If you get paid more you have a large amount of your income taxed. Has no one spelled this out for you? If you make 100k and government takes 10k in taxes, you're still able to live quite comfortably on 90k. If you're making 30k, 3k getting taken is a lot more impactful. Getting paid more might mean losing more in taxes, but it also means being less impacted by it. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 5 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said: If you get paid more you have a large amount of your income taxed. Yes and thats fine because you still get more overall money 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, rpgamer said: Has no one spelled this out for you? If you make 100k and government takes 10k in taxes, you're still able to live quite comfortably on 90k. If you're making 30k, 3k getting taken is a lot more impactful. Getting paid more might mean losing more in taxes, but it also means being less impacted by it. EXACTLY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 8 minutes ago, rpgamer said: Has no one spelled this out for you? If you make 100k and government takes 10k in taxes, you're still able to live quite comfortably on 90k. If you're making 30k, 3k getting taken is a lot more impactful. Getting paid more might mean losing more in taxes, but it also means being less impacted by it. Next is for her to mention the frequently misunderstood progressive federal income tax brackets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 12 minutes ago, rpgamer said: Has no one spelled this out for you? If you make 100k and government takes 10k in taxes, you're still able to live quite comfortably on 90k. If you're making 30k, 3k getting taken is a lot more impactful. Getting paid more might mean losing more in taxes, but it also means being less impacted by it. You are kidding yourself if you think they only take $10K on a $100K income. Thats not even including state income taxes. Sure, you can live a bit better, but you do not see those big returns until you are in the very very top of the income bracket. Below that you still get crushed by taxes. The greatest stimulus any individual can receive is a reduction in their taxes, and its not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Holy hell you really are dumb. Who tf cares what the actual numbers are? The entire point is making more money means being less impacted by what is taken. The point is to not look at just the numbers, but what those numbers mean to actual people trying to live. But we all know empathy is not your strong suit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 General warning (regarding posts that have been removed) that we need to dial back direct/personal insults. If you want to do that, go to TD. Second general warning, we aren't going to intentionally otherize/butcher names. Whether we intend it or not, the dog whistle gets blown. Third warning: if RFK jr drives by with a severed whale head strapped to his car, please run in the other direction. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 7 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: Third warning: if RFK jr drives by with a severed whale head strapped to his car, please run in the other direction. The whale looks concerned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 14 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: General warning (regarding posts that have been removed) that we need to dial back direct/personal insults. If you want to do that, go to TD Let's goooooo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said: I do get bonuses. Its written into our company policy, and its a clear performance bonus for individuals, teams, and the company as a whole. We hit a profit goal, we get profit shares. Ive had entire an entire month worth of paychecks in a single profit share before. So yea, I do get bonuses. And if those are not taxed? Ohhhhh boy, that would make me so happy. When was the last time your company "made a profit" though? Honestly, your paltry bonus has no effect on the country's tax intake, especially when you get one maybe once in five years. Your boss, who unsurprisingly is the one that determines whether you made a profit or whether all of that extra money coming in is going to undefined overhead, gets a bonus every year because his bonuses aren't performance based. You can bet that your boss is very very happy that you support Trump, though, 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said: You are kidding yourself if you think they only take $10K on a $100K income. Thats not even including state income taxes. Sure, you can live a bit better, but you do not see those big returns until you are in the very very top of the income bracket. Below that you still get crushed by taxes. The greatest stimulus any individual can receive is a reduction in their taxes, and its not even close. Trump plans to get rid of the federal Earned Income Tax Credit. Guess that means you're losing that $100 bonus anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Debater131 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Trump plans to get rid of the federal Earned Income Tax Credit. Guess that means you're losing that $100 bonus anyway. And Harris wants to implement an unrealized gains tax. So we can all kiss our retirements, investment, and wealth building goodbye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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