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2024 Presidential Elections: the schadenfreude commences


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Some of the first real polling is coming out since the palace coup and its showing that a whole lot of nothing has really changed.

Trump is still leading in the head to head polling against Harris, and he is still winning in all the key swing states.

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/july-2024-swing-state-polls-harris-trails-trump-in-arizona-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-tied-in-wisconsin/

Wisconsin is really the only state that saw real movement away from Trump. Harris is doing better than Biden, but not good enough to take a lead. Its Trump +5 in AZ, +2 in GA +1 in MI +2 PA, and Tied in WI. Trump wins those states, hes President. The RCP averages for these states are more pro-Trump than this one poll is.

This is also all before any sort of attack adds start to hit Harris, and they absolutely are going to do damage. Harris has a radically liberal record on a whole ton of key issues, and once people are exposed to her own words things will change. She is doing a great job of energizing the left wing base, but its going to come at the cost of independents.

Theres already a ton of clips of her talking about abolishing the police, forced gun confiscation, increasing taxes, and a whole slew of other radical left wing positions being pulled up. Once those hit the airwaves things will shift, particularly in swing states.

Her "record" of border czar is also going to get a ton of play in places like Arizona where immigration is the #1 issue right now. No amount of gaslighting by the media will make that go away.

This really goes to a fundamental problem, and misconception with the switch. Trump is a known commodity, theres nothing that can happen at this point thats really going to shift his numbers. We have had 8 years of Trump, so theres nothing new to say. Harris on the other hand is an already highly unpopular person whos positions havent been widely exposed yet.

Dropping Biden was the smart move for Democrats, but failing to have any sort of primary process at all is going to cost them. Even a scramble primary would expose the obvious weaknesses she has, but they got buried, and now it appears they are stuck with her.

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6 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Some of the first real polling is coming out since the palace coup and its showing that a whole lot of nothing has really changed.

Trump is still leading in the head to head polling against Harris, and he is still winning in all the key swing states.

https://emersoncollegepolling.com/july-2024-swing-state-polls-harris-trails-trump-in-arizona-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-tied-in-wisconsin/

Wisconsin is really the only state that saw real movement away from Trump. Harris is doing better than Biden, but not good enough to take a lead. Its Trump +5 in AZ, +2 in GA +1 in MI +2 PA, and Tied in WI. Trump wins those states, hes President. The RCP averages for these states are more pro-Trump than this one poll is.

This is also all before any sort of attack adds start to hit Harris, and they absolutely are going to do damage. Harris has a radically liberal record on a whole ton of key issues, and once people are exposed to her own words things will change. She is doing a great job of energizing the left wing base, but its going to come at the cost of independents.

Theres already a ton of clips of her talking about abolishing the police, forced gun confiscation, increasing taxes, and a whole slew of other radical left wing positions being pulled up. Once those hit the airwaves things will shift, particularly in swing states.

Her "record" of border czar is also going to get a ton of play in places like Arizona where immigration is the #1 issue right now. No amount of gaslighting by the media will make that go away.

This really goes to a fundamental problem, and misconception with the switch. Trump is a known commodity, theres nothing that can happen at this point thats really going to shift his numbers. We have had 8 years of Trump, so theres nothing new to say. Harris on the other hand is an already highly unpopular person whos positions havent been widely exposed yet.

Dropping Biden was the smart move for Democrats, but failing to have any sort of primary process at all is going to cost them. Even a scramble primary would expose the obvious weaknesses she has, but they got buried, and now it appears they are stuck with her.

Harris will be fine as long as Dems continue to frame the Republicans as weirdos who want to inspect kids genitals.

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Just now, matrixman124 said:

Kids should be allowed to wear whatever they want if it makes them comfortable.

And when those kids are twerking with drag queens?

 

You are not going to be able to make that argument with the kind of voters that Harris needs to win.

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20 minutes ago, matrixman124 said:

What kind of voters?

Swing voters and moderates. These are the people in suburbs and outlying areas who you have to carry to win an election.

And kids twerking with drag queens is not a moderate position, at all. You can call them bigots and denigrate them all you want, but youll lose their vote and the election.

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Just now, Master-Debater131 said:

Swing voters and moderates. These are the people in suburbs and outlying areas who you have to carry to win an election.

And kids twerking with drag queens is not a moderate position, at all. You can call them bigots and denigrate them all you want, but youll lose their vote and the election.

 

I'm going out on a limb and say being pro-LGBTQ is a very moderate position. 

What else do you got?

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Anti-LGBTQ bigotry is like 2003 Fox News talking points. 

Not desperate at all. 

 

 

 

 

 

The mark of a good politician is when they have enemies who try to dig up dirt but can't find anything that will stick. 

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19 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

Swing voters and moderates. These are the people in suburbs and outlying areas who you have to carry to win an election.

And kids twerking with drag queens is not a moderate position, at all. You can call them bigots and denigrate them all you want, but youll lose their vote and the election.

Why the fuck do you keep bringing up kids twerking? The fuck is wrong with your brain?

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she hasn't even been the de facto nominee for a week and doesn't have a VP yet, pivoted a whole campaign operation on the spot. 

gotta let it set in a week or two, or probably through their convention so they're on equal footing.

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92% of voters blame Kamala Harris for Biden health coverup: poll

https://nypost.com/2024/07/25/us-news/92-of-voters-blame-kamala-harris-for-biden-health-coverup-poll/

"What did the vice president know about President Biden’s health issues and when did she know it?

And why didn’t she share the details with the American people?

That last is the question nearly everyone has, according to a YouGov/Times of London poll of 1,170 registered voters.

The July 22 to 23 survey was in the field after President Biden renounced his re-election campaign but before he offered a halting delivery of what was effectively a farewell speech Wednesday night from the Oval Office.

A staggering 92% of respondents believe Harris knew at least a little bit about the president’s progressive deterioration, which became too much for even mainstream media to deny after his debate debacle against former President Donald Trump last month in Atlanta, though Biden’s issues have been discussed openly on the right since he took office in 2021."

 

Thats going to be devastating for her credibility. You cant get 90% of Americans to agree on anything, and yet 92% say she helped with the coverup. The ads write themselves "She knew about it and covered it up, what else is she willing to hide from you?"

MSNBC even discovered that when they interviewed undecided voters in Wisconsin

 

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1 hour ago, Master-Debater131 said:

92% of voters blame Kamala Harris for Biden health coverup: poll

https://nypost.com/2024/07/25/us-news/92-of-voters-blame-kamala-harris-for-biden-health-coverup-poll/

"What did the vice president know about President Biden’s health issues and when did she know it?

And why didn’t she share the details with the American people?

That last is the question nearly everyone has, according to a YouGov/Times of London poll of 1,170 registered voters.

The July 22 to 23 survey was in the field after President Biden renounced his re-election campaign but before he offered a halting delivery of what was effectively a farewell speech Wednesday night from the Oval Office.

A staggering 92% of respondents believe Harris knew at least a little bit about the president’s progressive deterioration, which became too much for even mainstream media to deny after his debate debacle against former President Donald Trump last month in Atlanta, though Biden’s issues have been discussed openly on the right since he took office in 2021."

 

Thats going to be devastating for her credibility. You cant get 90% of Americans to agree on anything, and yet 92% say she helped with the coverup. The ads write themselves "She knew about it and covered it up, what else is she willing to hide from you?"

MSNBC even discovered that when they interviewed undecided voters in Wisconsin

 

Wisconsin voters are stupid then and it’s a shame their state holds so much weight in national elections. 

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Trump met with Netanyahu and his wife at Mar a Lago (which I just realized means sea to lake thank you Duolingo 🙃 ) so anyone thinking they’re going to vote for Trump because he’s going to be better for Palestinians, better think again.  Kamala made a statement, although very politiciany, gives some indication that she won’t just bend over for him like every other politician on either side of the aisle does. 

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4 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

That kinda falls apart when you have Harris out at events with people who have kids in drag.

So on a scale of 10 to 10, where do you feel you rank on excitement over so-called 'conservatives' setting strangers up to physically double-check them little kid genitals to make sure they are the 'proper' gender and doing only the 'proper' gender things? You would never have been allowed to play hockey if these types of nuts had been in ascendance when you were growing up but you would have been a recipient of one of them molesting you in the name of 'gender'. 

It's important to remember the same ones trying to make out like the Drag Queens are the ones going after your kids are actively protecting all sorts of predators. Hide yo wife. Hide yo kids. Hide yo couches. 

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9 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I think it’s hilarious that some 15 yo accused Vance of couch fuckin and now that’s all anyone can talk about 😆

To be fair, that's like the least offensive thing floating around with these idiots right now. 

Now to enjoy the flood of couch jokes and maybe the posting of pics of Vance in furniture stores with captions of 'Do Not Allow Near Display Furniture'.  

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2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

anyone thinking they’re going to vote for Trump because he’s going to be better for Palestinians, better think again.

"Think" is a strong word to use for people with this opinion.

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Just now, naraku360 said:

"Think" is a strong word to use for people with this opinion.

In swing states like Michigan that’s the thought, unless they’re going to vote for RFK Jr, which is fine w me cuz he’s siphoning votes from Trump, giving the presidency to Kamala anyway (if polls are to be believed)

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5 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

And when those kids are twerking with drag queens?

 

You are not going to be able to make that argument with the kind of voters that Harris needs to win.

What’s the difference between a Drag Queen performing for children or any other makeup wearing performer, like a clown, for example?  I seen kids doing silly dances w clowns. So I want you I tell me what the difference is, Ms. I’m Only Playing Devil’s Advocate? (Damn you got a long name) 

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5 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

And when those kids are twerking with drag queens?

Fuck off, you dumb bitch. That wasn't a factor in your original post:

6 hours ago, Master-Debater131 said:

That kinda falls apart when you have Harris out at events with people who have kids in drag.

This was what you said. No reference to twerking.

The first was in response to this:

6 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

Harris will be fine as long as Dems continue to frame the Republicans as weirdos who want to inspect kids genitals.

Hey, nobody brought up twerking.

And your point of contention to bring it up?

6 hours ago, matrixman124 said:

Kids should be allowed to wear whatever they want if it makes them comfortable.

Saying it's just clothing and kids should be allowed to wear what they want. Wow, how controversial.

 

Eat shit. Why are you even here? You have about as many friends here as Ginguy did: none.

Everyone sees through you faux-concern for the children. You just want to shit on "the trannies" without having the backbone to express your real opinions. I try to avoid prescribed intent on people, but some people (you) don't seem to understand that they absolutely suck at hiding the shitty opinions they know are shitty.

I'll admit you're not the most dangerous kind of liar. You have the malice down, but luckily you're also profoundly unintelligent.

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5 hours ago, stilgar said:

Why the fuck do you keep bringing up kids twerking? The fuck is wrong with your brain?

She got done watching Cuties for the 3rd time this week and got it mixed up with a Harris rally because RFK Jr may not be the only one with a brain worm problem.

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4 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

To be fair, that's like the least offensive thing floating around with these idiots right now. 

Now to enjoy the flood of couch jokes and maybe the posting of pics of Vance in furniture stores with captions of 'Do Not Allow Near Display Furniture'.  

He's also looked up dolphin fucking. That ones real

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