And the Bleach 20th Anniversary Project is....

[3ngag3]

The anime adaptation of the final arc.

[Jman]

I suppose it’s Toonami bound.  From what I understand, the final arc ended with a wet fart, so let’s see if the anime tries to expand upon it.

Also Kubo’s one shot manga spinoff, Burn the Witch, is getting an OVA.

Edited March 18, 2020 by Jman

[PokeNirvash]

I'm expecting at least one inappropriately placed filler arc if they bring back Pierrot to animate this.

[Jman]

Burn the Witch is also getting an ongoing manga.

[The1gairon]

I--

 

 

are you serious!!? This is real?!

[StarPanda]

Yessss.....The arc started out so promising when I read it and it did go downhill with alot of stuff.But I'm glad its finslly getting animated 😄

 

[Top Gun]

Get ready for FOUR WEEKS OF GIANT HAND-FIGHTING ACTION!!!

(Also the fact that Kubo's going right back to Jump to serialize something else finally murders the "oh no his editors ruined Bleach's ending" excuse.)

Edited March 18, 2020 by Top Gun

[Master-Debater131]

Well, this was unexpected

 

And I like it  

[Distinct Lunatic]

4 hours ago, Jman said:

Also Kubo’s one shot manga spinoff, Burn the Witch, is getting an OVA.

 

4 hours ago, Jman said:

Burn the Witch is also getting an ongoing manga.

I read that sometime last year, and I did think it showed potential. Will be interesting to see a Western spin on the series, taking place in London I think.

One thing though, if Kubo is jumping back on the saddle with an ongoing series, I hope it's either monthly or bimonthly release, and not the whole weekly shit that destroys creators health and lives. Having more time to spend on each chapter should help a lot, considering it was very apparent in Bleach that weekly releases were killing him.

[Distinct Lunatic]

With them continuing the series I really hope it's not some 10-13 episode thing, just to fly through it and to wash their hands of it immediately after. That said, I don't want 50+ episodes. Depending on how they decide to handle this adaptation, 26 episodes should be the limit.

Spoiler

 

I say depending because I hope they flesh out things a WHOLE lot more than Kubo did. There was A LOT of loose ends and plot lines that went no where and were forgotten. Such as Halibel being held captive by Quincies, Grimmjow showing up to save the guys but not being shown until like 1 chapter near the end of the series, same for the Fullbringers and Ganju, where they've been shown here and there, only to not appear again until the 3rd or 4th to last chapter and not really do much. There was also Kyoraku meeting all of Ichigo's human friends, telling them that after this is done, he'll have to stay in the SS, but gave them passes to visit him, that also going nowhere with the ending. That was only tip of the iceberg when it came to things Kubo started but went nowhere with. There was also the two shinigami kids introduced in the beginning of the arc, for the first few chapters it was very apparent that Kubo wanted to make the boy the new center of attention, but went back on it.

In short, I hope with this continuation of the series they do their own thing with the source material, just using it as a basis. Not very likely to happen, but one can hope. I also hate that they ended things on Ichihime, they obviously won't change the story to end on Ichiruki but I'd rather it end with no apparent relationships.

 

 

Edited March 18, 2020 by katt_goddess
spoilers are spoilers even if the show is over / manga completed...;)

[ben0119]

https://www.siliconera.com/new-bleach-anime-and-burn-the-witch-anime-adaptations-announced/

Here's an article on it.

Great to hear. I had hoped for a long time the Bleach anime would return but wasn't counting on it.

I hope the anime can fix some things with the manga that were rushed and other stuff just plain not shown. This certainly should NOT be a 100% faithful gospel adaptation.

There were some things in the past that filled in the blanks of some events, like Ashido that Kubo wanted to include, some stuff during the Yammy fight and showing how Aizen beat all the Soul Reapers. In the manga, it just cuts to the next page and they are all falling. So there is some hope for that.

Never did get around to reading Burn the Witch, but it sounded fun. Since it is a one shot I guess it is getting serialised to have more material for the anime. But is Kubo still doing it? He was in pretty rough shape health-wise by the time Bleach ended, and though he's had a break, he's older now. Maybe this manga will be more of a collaboration with Kubo and others.

But, looks like Kubo is still in the good graces of the manga and anime industry after all!

And it's great to have some GOOD news for once!

Edited March 18, 2020 by ben0119

[ben0119]

1 hour ago, Top Gun said:

Get ready for FOUR WEEKS OF GIANT HAND-FIGHTING ACTION!!!

(Also the fact that Kubo's going right back to Jump to serialize something else finally murders the "oh no his editors ruined Bleach's ending" excuse.)

What are you... oh yeah LOL.

https://comicbook.com/anime/amp/2017/11/05/why-did-bleach-end-tite-kubo-injuries/

In an interview, Kubo said it was his choice to end the manga, not the editors.  Probably due to his poor health at the time.  Though it makes me wonder why he dragged some things out so much when he felt like shit, which ended up forcing him to rush things and other things were just not shown entirely.

Though, it looks like the impression that Kubo was blacklisted was not correct after all.

[ben0119]

5 hours ago, PokeNirvash said:

I'm expecting at least one inappropriately placed filler arc if they bring back Pierrot to animate this.

I realize you're probably joking, but there's no need for filler since the manga is already over.

There absolutely should be some added canon material, though, in collaboration with Kubo, to fix some issues with the ending and later portions of the arc, however.

[The1gairon]

YES!!!!

YES!!!

[ben0119]

@Distinct Lunatic Dude you should spoiler-mark that post for people who have not read the manga yet.

[Distinct Lunatic]

15 minutes ago, ben0119 said:

@Distinct Lunatic Dude you should spoiler-mark that post for people who have not read the manga yet.

perhaps, but the laws of the internet dictate that if you haven't seen/read a show, movie, story, etc. after a certain period of time, you have no one else to blame but yourself in the way of spoilers.

[EmpressAngel]

That final arc was a fucking train wreck. This is gonna be some fantastic garbage.

[EmpressAngel]

39 minutes ago, ben0119 said:

In an interview, Kubo said it was his choice to end the manga, not the editors.

That actually makes him look so much worse. He chose when to end things, and then still decided to waste months at a time on side character fights? That just means he's shittier at his job than we thought.

[renjifan]

I never finished the anime, but always wanted to, so this will be motivation to get it watched!

If my work ends up closing due to the virus, I think I know how I’ll spend my free time ☺️

[TacoTuesday]

If there is even one single fucking filler arc.

[TacoTuesday]

4 hours ago, ben0119 said:

I realize you're probably joking, but there's no need for filler since the manga is already over.

There absolutely should be some added canon material, though, in collaboration with Kubo, to fix some issues with the ending and later portions of the arc, however.

Oh? And how fucking far ahead is One Piece at this point?

[Chapinator_X]

I don't need any more bad news today!

 

 

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JK, I'm happy for everyone looking forward to this. I just wonder if they're going to stick with how Kubo laid out the ending with how quickly they jumped to the Naruto ending, or if they'll try to flesh things out about how Ichigo got what he did for the last fight with Yhwach and what their lives became before they all got hitched and had kids.

 

[The1gairon]

6 hours ago, EmpressAngel said:

That final arc was a fucking train wreck. This is gonna be some fantastic garbage.

Unless someone on the committee intervenes and rewrites a good chunk of it so it's better in the anime.

[3ngag3]

BURN THE WITCH

 

[DangerMouse]

8 hours ago, 3ngag3 said:

BURN THE WITCH

 

Hell yeah

This looks awesome.

They kinda remind me of Panty and Stocking (and the blonde, best girl Hiyori).

And it's great see we are actually finally going to get an anime for the last arc of Bleach too.

Edited March 21, 2020 by DangerMouse

[ben0119]

On 3/18/2020 at 12:58 PM, Distinct Lunatic said:

perhaps, but the laws of the internet dictate that if you haven't seen/read a show, movie, story, etc. after a certain period of time, you have no one else to blame but yourself in the way of spoilers.

But this is different.  It's an adaptation.  A lot of people don't read the manga or light novels, etc. for shows.

And it looks like the mods agree with me.

Edited March 21, 2020 by ben0119

[ben0119]

On 3/18/2020 at 1:17 PM, EmpressAngel said:

That actually makes him look so much worse. He chose when to end things, and then still decided to waste months at a time on side character fights? That just means he's shittier at his job than we thought.

Well that is kind of what I said in my post.  If Kubo knew he was feeling bad health-wise, why did he waste so much time dragging some things out and showing repetitive scenes and then other important stuff got short-changed?  I really don't know.

But hopefully they will make things better in the anime and flesh out some things better.

[ben0119]

On 3/18/2020 at 7:17 PM, elfie said:

Unless someone on the committee intervenes and rewrites a good chunk of it so it's better in the anime.

Maybe Kubo has some notes and plans on stuff he didn't include in the manga that could be used.

[ben0119]

On 3/18/2020 at 5:17 PM, TacoTuesday said:

Oh? And how fucking far ahead is One Piece at this point?

I wouldn't know.  I know Oda is mandated to take his 4th week off so he doesn't kill himself, so the manga would be making less progress than some others.

I also understand that Toei refuses to do filler arcs so it just pads things out like crazy.  And apparently it has gotten so bad that fans are begging for filler arcs so the canon can be better paced.

But there is literally no reason to do any filler here with Bleach, unless it is "canon-filler" which would and should be done to improve the story immensely.  Maybe get the cut story elements from Kubo.

[Jman]

The way Oda is describing it, live action OP is supposed to be its version of Kai.

This meanwhile is The Final Act.

[ben0119]

52 minutes ago, Jman said:

The way Oda is describing it, live action OP is supposed to be its version of Kai.

This meanwhile is The Final Act.

We actually don't know what this Bleach anime is going to be like yet.

[ben0119]

4 hours ago, 3ngag3 said:

BURN THE WITCH

 

Why is it with anime there always has to be a thick buxom girl and a petite girl?  Well, as usual, Kubo's character designs do not disappoint! 

And I gotta say those production values look pretty great!

[ben0119]

Here is a video elaborating on things.

I didn't know that Kishimoto had a new manga or that Jump canceled it.  That's fuckin' cold lmao.  Judging from the comments, apparently it had way too much exposition, and the art for the fights was confusing.

Didn't the Bleach manga actually have more than 686 chapters, because of the weird numbering of the Turn Back the Pendulum arcs?  Either way, that's still a lot of chapters left to animate!

Yes we all hope Kubo revises the ending.  But it hasn't been 8 years since the manga ended.  I think he got confused with the anime there.

Yes it is odd that they are going right to making the Burn the Witch anime without even seeing how the manga goes over.

Though I would call it more a spin-off of Bleach than a sequel.  Though going off of that trailer I don't see how it is connected to the Bleach world at all.

[TacoTuesday]

3 hours ago, ben0119 said:

I wouldn't know.  I know Oda is mandated to take his 4th week off so he doesn't kill himself, so the manga would be making less progress than some others.

I also understand that Toei refuses to do filler arcs so it just pads things out like crazy.  And apparently it has gotten so bad that fans are begging for filler arcs so the canon can be better paced.

But there is literally no reason to do any filler here with Bleach, unless it is "canon-filler" which would and should be done to improve the story immensely.  Maybe get the cut story elements from Kubo.

I hope you're right, really. lol.

[ben0119]

I just found this video.  I was pleasantly surprised it has a translator.

The stream actually starts when they play a trailer at 4:56 that briefly teased some of the new characters and story elements from the new arc, so maybe skip to 7:20 if you don't want any spoilers at all.  I am surprised that they already have a voice actor for a certain character.

Here is a link to a separate video if you just want to watch that trailer by itself. There is no actual animation for Bleach yet though.

So it really IS pronounced "Tight" Kubo and not "Tee-teh" Kubo?  I've heard that before and thought it was wrong, but apparently not. Man, I can't get over that.  And I don't know how I'm going to be able to change my pronunciation of it.

So, they are doing a movie for Burn the Witch, to start out, I guess, and not a series.  That makes a lot more sense.  And explains the production values.

Burn the Witch is going to be a weekly series? Will Kubo be able to do keep up with a weekly series without killing himself?  I hope he has a lot more people helping with the work this time, if that is the case.

Wow, if those are the Japanese voice actors for Rukia and Byakuya, I have to say their normal speaking voices do not sound like their characters at all!

I swear I have seen the guy on the far right somewhere before.  Was he on GameCenter CX?

They brought the voice actors out for Burn the Witch, and the director. The girl on the right said she read Bleach in school and never expected she would be part of Kubo's world.

The girl on the left thought they first met when they did the recording for the trailer, but they actually met during the auditions.  Oops lol.  That's embarrassing!

The Burn the Witch manga is starting this summer and the movie is coming out in the fall.

So supposedly somewhere in the Bleach manga it said that Squad 13 is an Eastern Division, which hinted that there are other divisions of the Soul Society.  I don't remember this at all. But I do remember it being mentioned that Sasakibe, the 1st Squad Lieutenant, had spent time in England which is why he acts and dresses like he does.  So I'd say that is more of a hint than anything else, that there is at least one more Soul Society in another part of the world.

Apparently Kubo planned to take a 15 year break after finishing Bleach.  He could have just retired.  I'm sure he has plenty of money.  But Shueisha managed to persuade Kubo to get back to work sooner.

Why was Kubo not here?  Well, he did say in his note that he did a bunch of manuscripts for Burn the Witch already and is just sitting at home playing Animal Crossing while all these announcements are going on.

And no Kubo we did not forget about Bleach!

And ending the video on Number One.

Edited March 21, 2020 by ben0119

[Distinct Lunatic]

@ben0119

I've been saying "tight" Kubo for years, even after a friend of mine said it's the other thing, but that sounds stupid af, so he's tight. Kubo is tight.

One thing that might make this go easier for Kubo is how the anime industry for the most part has moved away from airing episodes until the series ends, them doing 6 to 12 month breaks or longer between seasons. The problem with Bleach was the fact that the anime was riding up the mangas ass pretty much all the time, I'd imagine that would result in them constantly lighting a fire under Kubo's ass to pick up the pace and keep cranking this stuff out, even by weekly releases standards him probably having even less time to think on where to go next and what to do. If they do seasonal releases for this series hopefully it'd be a lot less pressure on him, allowing him to think things through more clearly.

I've always heard that one of the things that really accelerated the problems Bleach would come to face with constant filler (funny though, everyone used to praise how Naruto was better with filler than Bleach, but Naruto milked the living shit out of the manga, easily surpassing the amount of filler episodes Bleach had) was that back when the anime began, they wanted to rush through the events of the first season covered in the manga to get to the SS arc since they were afraid people would accuse them of and dismiss them for ripping off Yu yu Hakusho. Them adapting the manga at a rate of 4 to even 5 chapters per episode to get to the SS arc. I do think Bleach would have still reached the point of needing filler seasons eventually, but the way they handled it might have been what caused that cycle to happen.

[Distinct Lunatic]

Honestly though when it comes to BtW, even back when I first read it I felt like it doesn't need to belong in the same world as Bleach, since I feel like that might keep it from truly being its own thing. Them being in the same world I feel like would also result in people holding it against all the highs and lows of Bleach.

Obviously people will still do that since they're made by the same guy, but them taking place in the same world could lead to harsher criticism, people being a lot more particular about what choices Kubo makes with the series. If it was full on its own thing then I feel like it'd give a lot more freedom to really do whatever you want with it.

Honestly I would have preferred if in the last couple of pages Kubo didn't do that Soul Society West Branch sign or whatever it was, but could have still kept the last page the same as a nod to Bleach, the way he did that honestly got me pumped up and even got a smile out of me.

 

[The1gairon]

8 hours ago, ben0119 said:

I just found this video.  I was pleasantly surprised it has a translator.

The stream actually starts when they play a trailer at 4:56 that briefly teased some of the new characters and story elements from the new arc, so maybe skip to 7:20 if you don't want any spoilers at all.  I am surprised that they already have a voice actor for a certain character.

Here is a link to a separate video if you just want to watch that trailer by itself. There is no actual animation for Bleach yet though.

So it really IS pronounced "Tight" Kubo and not "Tee-teh" Kubo?  I've heard that before and thought it was wrong, but apparently not. Man, I can't get over that.  And I don't know how I'm going to be able to change my pronunciation of it.

So, they are doing a movie for Burn the Witch, to start out, I guess, and not a series.  That makes a lot more sense.  And explains the production values.

Burn the Witch is going to be a weekly series? Will Kubo be able to do keep up with a weekly series without killing himself?  I hope he has a lot more people helping with the work this time, if that is the case.

Wow, if those are the Japanese voice actors for Rukia and Byakuya, I have to say their normal speaking voices do not sound like their characters at all!

I swear I have seen the guy on the far right somewhere before.  Was he on GameCenter CX?

They brought the voice actors out for Burn the Witch, and the director. The girl on the right said she read Bleach in school and never expected she would be part of Kubo's world.

The girl on the left thought they first met when they did the recording for the trailer, but they actually met during the auditions.  Oops lol.  That's embarrassing!

The Burn the Witch manga is starting this summer and the movie is coming out in the fall.

So supposedly somewhere in the Bleach manga it said that Squad 13 is an Eastern Division, which hinted that there are other divisions of the Soul Society.  I don't remember this at all. But I do remember it being mentioned that Sasakibe, the 1st Squad Lieutenant, had spent time in England which is why he acts and dresses like he does.  So I'd say that is more of a hint than anything else, that there is at least one more Soul Society in another part of the world.

Apparently Kubo planned to take a 15 year break after finishing Bleach.  He could have just retired.  I'm sure he has plenty of money.  But Shueisha managed to persuade Kubo to get back to work sooner.

Why was Kubo not here?  Well, he did say in his note that he did a bunch of manuscripts for Burn the Witch already and is just sitting at home playing Animal Crossing while all these announcements are going on.

And no Kubo we did not forget about Bleach!

And ending the video on Number One.

Huh.

American branch spin-off incoming??

[ben0119]

9 hours ago, elfie said:

Huh.

American branch spin-off incoming??

No, Burn the Witch takes place in London and features the Western Branch.  Bleach featured the Eastern Branch.  I don't know if each branch takes care of the entire Eastern and Western Hemispheres and the 2 series just happen to focus on England and Japan, or if there are other branches in other parts of the world. 

I don't know how you got that there's an American Branch spin-off happening from the video or what I said.

[The1gairon]

3 minutes ago, ben0119 said:

No, Burn the Witch takes place in London and features the Western Branch.  Bleach featured the Eastern Branch.  I don't know if each branch takes care of the entire Eastern and Western Hemispheres and the 2 series just happen to focus on England and Japan, or if there are other branches in other parts of the world. 

I don't know how you got that there's an American Branch spin-off happening from the video or what I said.

... no that was ........ a g-- i was joking.

[ben0119]

12 hours ago, Distinct Lunatic said:

@ben0119

I've been saying "tight" Kubo for years, even after a friend of mine said it's the other thing, but that sounds stupid af, so he's tight. Kubo is tight.

One thing that might make this go easier for Kubo is how the anime industry for the most part has moved away from airing episodes until the series ends, them doing 6 to 12 month breaks or longer between seasons. The problem with Bleach was the fact that the anime was riding up the mangas ass pretty much all the time, I'd imagine that would result in them constantly lighting a fire under Kubo's ass to pick up the pace and keep cranking this stuff out, even by weekly releases standards him probably having even less time to think on where to go next and what to do. If they do seasonal releases for this series hopefully it'd be a lot less pressure on him, allowing him to think things through more clearly.

I've always heard that one of the things that really accelerated the problems Bleach would come to face with constant filler (funny though, everyone used to praise how Naruto was better with filler than Bleach, but Naruto milked the living shit out of the manga, easily surpassing the amount of filler episodes Bleach had) was that back when the anime began, they wanted to rush through the events of the first season covered in the manga to get to the SS arc since they were afraid people would accuse them of and dismiss them for ripping off Yu yu Hakusho. Them adapting the manga at a rate of 4 to even 5 chapters per episode to get to the SS arc. I do think Bleach would have still reached the point of needing filler seasons eventually, but the way they handled it might have been what caused that cycle to happen.

Lol well if he isn't Tite "Tittie" Kubo then I guess "tight" can accurately describe the other body parts Kubo draws. It will still be difficult for me to change that in my head though!

Yeah, the only long-runners I know of that still exist are Black Clover and One Piece.  One Piece was grandfathered in and is like a dinosaur at this point, and I guess Toei is too greedy to let One Piece take breaks.  I hope that Black Clover takes a break once it catches up to its manga.  But I'm not really sure what's going on with that series.  I think I remember hearing that it is way behind its manga and in no danger of catching up any time soon.  I figured Kubo would be rushed regardless of where the anime is, but you could be right.  Yeah since the first part is being done as a movie and the studio is mostly known for movies and OVAs, the rest will probably be done as OVAs or seasons at least.  And I wonder if the movie will be edited into episodes later.

What I had always heard was the first arc was cut down or rushed in the manga because of the Yu Yu Hakusho comparisons.  I didn't know the anime rushed that part even more.  I always thought another issue though was Kubo used large drawings and panels, and was sparse on dialogue, so each chapter wouldn't cover much run time in a manga as opposed to other mangas.

[ben0119]

12 hours ago, Distinct Lunatic said:

Honestly though when it comes to BtW, even back when I first read it I felt like it doesn't need to belong in the same world as Bleach, since I feel like that might keep it from truly being its own thing. Them being in the same world I feel like would also result in people holding it against all the highs and lows of Bleach.

Obviously people will still do that since they're made by the same guy, but them taking place in the same world could lead to harsher criticism, people being a lot more particular about what choices Kubo makes with the series. If it was full on its own thing then I feel like it'd give a lot more freedom to really do whatever you want with it.

Honestly I would have preferred if in the last couple of pages Kubo didn't do that Soul Society West Branch sign or whatever it was, but could have still kept the last page the same as a nod to Bleach, the way he did that honestly got me pumped up and even got a smile out of me.

 

I think Kubo did it to make sure it was ensured to gain a following, by linking it to Bleach.  I haven't read the one shot yet, but everything I've seen from the trailer and pictures, if no one told me, I would think it was a totally different universe.  Maybe the connections will just be very loose and it can still be its own thing.

The way a lot of fans were so hard and down on Bleach, especially as it went on, if anything, people will be more forgiving of this series since they will have lowered expectations, or give it a better chance because it's new and fresh, and despite supposedly being in the same universe, doesn't seem to have much to do with the original story.  I think it would be judged much more harshly if it was a straight up sequel, a la Boruto.

Hmm, I'm not seeing how that page is a tribute to Bleach?

[Distinct Lunatic]

20 hours ago, ben0119 said:

No, Burn the Witch takes place in London and features the Western Branch.  Bleach featured the Eastern Branch.  I don't know if each branch takes care of the entire Eastern and Western Hemispheres and the 2 series just happen to focus on England and Japan, or if there are other branches in other parts of the world. 

I don't know how you got that there's an American Branch spin-off happening from the video or what I said.

who knows, maybe Kubo took a trip to London once and because of that decided to make that the focus point of the series.

[Distinct Lunatic]

20 hours ago, ben0119 said:

Lol well if he isn't Tite "Tittie" Kubo then I guess "tight" can accurately describe the other body parts Kubo draws. It will still be difficult for me to change that in my head though!

Yeah, the only long-runners I know of that still exist are Black Clover and One Piece.  One Piece was grandfathered in and is like a dinosaur at this point, and I guess Toei is too greedy to let One Piece take breaks.  I hope that Black Clover takes a break once it catches up to its manga.  But I'm not really sure what's going on with that series.  I think I remember hearing that it is way behind its manga and in no danger of catching up any time soon.  I figured Kubo would be rushed regardless of where the anime is, but you could be right.  Yeah since the first part is being done as a movie and the studio is mostly known for movies and OVAs, the rest will probably be done as OVAs or seasons at least.  And I wonder if the movie will be edited into episodes later.

What I had always heard was the first arc was cut down or rushed in the manga because of the Yu Yu Hakusho comparisons.  I didn't know the anime rushed that part even more.  I always thought another issue though was Kubo used large drawings and panels, and was sparse on dialogue, so each chapter wouldn't cover much run time in a manga as opposed to other mangas.

It could still lead to an anime series. The way things could end up playing out is the put out a movie/OVA/whatever before or around the time the manga goes out to help build up interest and get people to pay more attention to it, and if the manga takes off and sells well it'd very likely lead to an anime series. Whether it's done by the same studio is an unknown, hopefully not Pierrot.

I never read the early Bleach staff, I didn't start reading the manga until the fake Karakura arc, them defending those 4 towers, them going to the zanpakuto filler around that arc, me picking up the manga there and I never went back and read the older parts, I want to at some point but that's not something I care to spend time on. I just heard talk like that on some anime discussion sites / articles. I'm pretty sure the manga quality was good, but then the first thing to happen was less and less backgrounds / details other than the characters very immediate surroundings, and then wasted pages and panels. At some point in the Quincy arc I even heard that Kubo would only draw the characters if it was something specific they were doing, and would have his assistants draw them wherever needed. Probably because of all his reported health issues. Maybe they can do the One Piece thing with Kubo, taking a break every 4th week.

[Distinct Lunatic]

20 hours ago, ben0119 said:

I think Kubo did it to make sure it was ensured to gain a following, by linking it to Bleach.  I haven't read the one shot yet, but everything I've seen from the trailer and pictures, if no one told me, I would think it was a totally different universe.  Maybe the connections will just be very loose and it can still be its own thing.

The way a lot of fans were so hard and down on Bleach, especially as it went on, if anything, people will be more forgiving of this series since they will have lowered expectations, or give it a better chance because it's new and fresh, and despite supposedly being in the same universe, doesn't seem to have much to do with the original story.  I think it would be judged much more harshly if it was a straight up sequel, a la Boruto.

Hmm, I'm not seeing how that page is a tribute to Bleach?

[Ginguy]

1. It's been 20 years since Bleach started? Way to make me feel old....

2. From what I've seen/read the last arc is kind of confusing and jumbled, but we get to see a couple of cool things (maybe) so I guess I'm kinda down.

3. I'm more interested in Burn the Witch than Bleach.

 

 

[PenguinBoss]

Uninteresting deus ex machina hyyyyype!

[TacoTuesday]

On 3/22/2020 at 8:15 PM, Ginguy said:

1. It's been 20 years since Bleach started? Way to make me feel old....

2. From what I've seen/read the last arc is kind of confusing and jumbled, but we get to see a couple of cool things (maybe) so I guess I'm kinda down.

3. I'm more interested in Burn the Witch than Bleach.

 

 

It always gets me that dragonball is technically older than me. That being said bleach... 20 years old.. fuck. lmfao

[ben0119]

On 3/22/2020 at 6:25 PM, Distinct Lunatic said:

It could still lead to an anime series. The way things could end up playing out is the put out a movie/OVA/whatever before or around the time the manga goes out to help build up interest and get people to pay more attention to it, and if the manga takes off and sells well it'd very likely lead to an anime series. Whether it's done by the same studio is an unknown, hopefully not Pierrot.

I never read the early Bleach staff, I didn't start reading the manga until the fake Karakura arc, them defending those 4 towers, them going to the zanpakuto filler around that arc, me picking up the manga there and I never went back and read the older parts, I want to at some point but that's not something I care to spend time on. I just heard talk like that on some anime discussion sites / articles. I'm pretty sure the manga quality was good, but then the first thing to happen was less and less backgrounds / details other than the characters very immediate surroundings, and then wasted pages and panels. At some point in the Quincy arc I even heard that Kubo would only draw the characters if it was something specific they were doing, and would have his assistants draw them wherever needed. Probably because of all his reported health issues. Maybe they can do the One Piece thing with Kubo, taking a break every 4th week.

Oh okay.  Yeah I could see that happening.  Yeah hopefully not Pierott lol.

I didn't read the manga from the beginning either. A girl on the old boards I introduced the show to was watching through the series with me, and she wanted to keep going past where the dub had stopped, at 167 at the time (and skipping filler of course.) So we watched ahead in Japanese and then when we ran out of episodes, we started reading the manga. I think the first chapters I read were the fight against Barragan? I'd have to go back and look at the timeline of where things were in the dub, Japanese release of the anime, and manga at the time. Pretty out of character for me at the time, because before then I would always wait for the dub of stuff!

But, I bought the manga volume for when Aizen is revealed as the bad guy. I also went back and read and skimmed a few other earlier chapters. The art wasn't much more elaborate back then, either. That big shot where we see the entire Seireitei overhead when Ichigo and co. first arrive there from the sky isn't even in the manga.

I'm not sure when the interview was done, and can't find it right now, but Kubo said he has assistants, but he draws all the characters and explosions.

In another interview (possible spoilers in interview,) he said he leaves out backgrounds because -

Jo Kaps: "Many readers are wondering why you tend to draw minimalistic to no backgrounds and focus on the characters instead."

Kubo: "Backgrounds distract the reader from what's going on inside the character. Whenever I leave backgrounds out, this is to allow my readers to see the heart of the character."

I do know that in some of the chapters for the final arc, had confusing art for the fights at times. In fact, there were some panels where I really did not know what I was looking at.

So the anime can definitely improve on the manga in the story AND art department.

Oh, look at this treasure trove I just found -

Here Kubo talks about backgrounds more, I believe in an older interview.  Looks like a rough translation though.

K: Didn't Morita san just mentioned "Connection to one another and a story is born."(*3), I think it was marvelously well-said. I think when I am drawing, I wasn't just clarifying the lines, but illustrating the "air". Therefore, no matter in drawing or writing,neither words nor lines, but singularly illustrating the "air". I always have this feeling of bringing the "air" into the paper when drawing. How to phrase it, every panel should have a background. Backgrounds are drawn to remind the reader where is the characters situated. However, I feel that it was not that important. In this manner, at the very panel when a character is exceptionally distinctive, I don't feel like filling the background at all.

In BLEACH, when a new character debuts, the background is actually white.(*4) The reason is I want the readers to savor the atmosphere of one's surrounding through the characters themselves. I believe that the world coexists with the characters and shaped, so I would hold this belief of "I want to shape this world" and pen it down.

(*4) The White Background The scene which Aizen is appeared alive. It was just like what Sensei has mentioned that the background is white, but nothing is drawn behind the character.

Though I suppose it is possible Kubo drew the backgrounds less and less in later years, regardless of his stated style and intent reasons, due to his health.

I saw a comment from someone on the site where I first saw this news posted when it ended up in my Google News feed, SiliconEra, I think it was, that all those manuscripts that Kubo had done ahead of time on his own time were the entire series, and Burn the Witch was intended to be a shorter series.  I have no idea if that's true though.  But yeah if that's not it and Kubo will have to start making new chapters eventually, the Oda schedule is an option.

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Oh, and of course there was this.  It's ever more relevant now -