The incel in my econ class

[lupin_bebop]

I’m more thrown by the fact you’ve used the term “incel” in this place.........I thought you were cooler/better/more intelligent than that. 

[Vixen_catgirl]

36 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

I'm not sure what's worse....''involuntary celibacy''

 

Or the fact that you were actually contemplating causing harm to someone who, up until now, hasn't exhibited any proof of deserving such actions

 

YOu're just as bad as what you want him to be

Ive been decent enough not to expose him. If he wanted to be left alone he wouldnt be spreading rumors.

[Vixen_catgirl]

1 minute ago, lupin_bebop said:

I’m more thrown by the fact you’ve used the term “incel” in this place.........I thought you were cooler/better/more intelligent than that. 

*shrugs*

I guess not. 

[jackiemarie90]

38 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

I'm not sure what's worse....''involuntary celibacy''

 

Or the fact that you were actually contemplating causing harm to someone who, up until now, hasn't exhibited any proof of deserving such actions

 

YOu're just as bad as what you want him to be

Oh come on, you and half the members here pick on easy target posters all the time and you judge? 

[Vixen_catgirl]

42 minutes ago, fuggnificent said:

I say fuck him up on principle. I dont let people walk over me. Just kinda caused someone to get fired for messing with me...so i cant sit here and tell u not to act because i ALWAYS act

On some level i feel bad for the little shit. But i really dont have the patience for people who want to continuously bother me and hate women. 

[Drunkenwarrior]

8 minutes ago, jackiemarie90 said:

Oh come on, you and half the members here pick on easy target posters all the time and you judge? 

WHat?

[Drunkenwarrior]

11 minutes ago, Vixen_catgirl said:

Ive been decent enough not to expose him. If he wanted to be left alone he wouldnt be spreading rumors.

expose him for what?

you're being vague about his crimes

[Vixen_catgirl]

4 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

expose him for what?

you're being vague about his crimes

I did make a post about some of the ways he bothered me, i will admit i have been a bit lazy on explanation due to the other things im doing while posting here. 

I didnt get into specifics of the more fucked up conversations that happened between him and i that led to him lurking and like intensely hating my friend and that being the last straw in the "friendship" between him and i. But there were a small handful of them. Beyond that pointing out to an entire classroom full of people that he is part of some weird hate group after some of the trash things he has said in class would be the equivalent of socially throwing his ass to the wolves. While I'm not the nicest person in the world im not a complete cunt. 

 

[Vixen_catgirl]

12 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

expose him for what?

you're being vague about his crimes

This was the post 

I tried being nice to him in the beginning. I really did.  I used to sit next to him. I have free time before class and he would come and sit near me and ask me about what i liked to watch. Presumably because i wear an oversized Cowboy Bebop/ Fooly cooly hoodie over my work clothes at school. He seemed nice if not a little pushy about talking to me  But he got really fucking weird towards one of my friends who is also of the same ethnicity as him. Found his profile on tinder (i have no fucking idea how) and started prattling off shit that my friend had put on his profile. I started avoiding him after that but then i started seeing him around where i hang out more and more often  for a few months after that. He would stare at me in class. Tried telling another classmate that i was a "whore who fucking for ketamine in chinatown" So yeah the dude fucking bothered me.

[Poof]

1 hour ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

I'm not sure what's worse....''involuntary celibacy''

 

Or the fact that you were actually contemplating causing harm to someone who, up until now, hasn't exhibited any proof of deserving such actions

 

YOu're just as bad as what you want him to be

[Drunkenwarrior]

4 minutes ago, Vixen_catgirl said:

This was the post 

I tried being nice to him in the beginning. I really did.  I used to sit next to him. I have free time before class and he would come and sit near me and ask me about what i liked to watch. Presumably because i wear an oversized Cowboy Bebop/ Fooly cooly hoodie over my work clothes at school. He seemed nice if not a little pushy about talking to me  But he got really fucking weird towards one of my friends who is also of the same ethnicity as him. Found his profile on tinder (i have no fucking idea how) and started prattling off shit that my friend had put on his profile. I started avoiding him after that but then i started seeing him around where i hang out more and more often  for a few months after that. He would stare at me in class. Tried telling another classmate that i was a "whore who fucking for ketamine in chinatown" So yeah the dude fucking bothered me.

See that makes more sense.

 

I was under the impression that some loser was being a loser so you were gonna get him killed 

[Vixen_catgirl]

1 minute ago, Drunkenwarrior said:

See that makes more sense.

 

I was under the impression that some loser was being a loser so you were gonna get him killed 

Oh, god no. My bad. I should have explained it better.

[Drunkenwarrior]

 

2 minutes ago, Poof said:

Edited April 26, 2018 by Drunkenwarrior

[Vixen_catgirl]

1 hour ago, jackiemarie90 said:

I hate these type of people too, but it's better not to get involved in a way that it can come back to you. But for the mean time, talk a bunch of shit.

 Sometimes i just want to antagonize him in bizarre ways to keep it interesting

[jackiemarie90]

2 minutes ago, Vixen_catgirl said:

 Sometimes i just want to antagonize him in bizarre ways to keep it interesting

The best way is too get better grades than them in class. Or if they get a question wrong, immediately say you know the right one. Well that's the focused on school way. If you wanna start shit, you can always say, oh that's an interesting web page you are looking at, and just be nosy.

When people talk loudly on there phones in the library I just say, "Oh my god no way, that's so interesting."

[naraku360]

1 hour ago, Vixen_catgirl said:

I dont even do K. Nor do i sleep around. This was why i didnt like him to begin with. He always assumed shit like that about women

I didn't think you did. It's funny when guys think they got the last word by claiming they were rejected by someone who trades sex for drugs.

[naraku360]

3 hours ago, Ginguy said:

@Vixen_catgirl I think that you would be best served just ignoring him.Vent here about him if you must, but I don't see anything positive from letting a petty hate fester in you. If you actually do try try to have him taken out, you are ultimately diminishing yourself, not him.

 

Captain Nutless has spoken!

[Distortedreasoning]

13 minutes ago, Quackers said:

As a card carrying incel myself, you need to shut your Stacy mouth, slut

reported. fucker. 

[naraku360]

6 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

reported. fucker. 

Actually, as an incel he is the exact opposite of a fucker.

[Distortedreasoning]

2 minutes ago, naraku360 said:

Actually, as an incel he is the exact opposite of a fucker.

i dont even know what that means. is it virgin? 

[Rogue_Alphonse]

10 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said:

reported. fucker. 

You realize this is Kidney and this is just him being harmless... him... ?

[Distortedreasoning]

1 minute ago, Rogue_Alphonse said:

You realize this is Kidney and this is just him being harmless... him... ?

im getting old. how am im supposed to keep track of whos who?

stop changing your names. 

[//>wagz./]

//> so that's what i am./

[RainyDayJizz#35]

8 hours ago, Vixen_catgirl said:

I tried being nice to him in the beginning. I really did.  I used to sit next to him. I have free time before class and he would come and sit near me and ask me about what i liked to watch. Presumably because i wear an oversized Cowboy Bebop/ Fooly cooly hoodie over my work clothes at school. He seemed nice if not a little pushy about talking to me  But he got really fucking weird towards one of my friends who is also of the same ethnicity as him. Found his profile on tinder (i have no fucking idea how) and started prattling off shit that my friend had put on his profile. I started avoiding him after that but then i started seeing him around where i hang out more and more often  for a few months after that. He would stare at me in class. Tried telling another classmate that i was a "whore who fucking for ketamine in chinatown" So yeah the dude fucking bothered me.

Okay, this is an explanation of your vitriol. Brutal honesty is an awesome way to handle people like this. You used to talk to him, when you can just ask him why he told _____ you fuck for ketamine. He will probably deny it and you can follow that with "Why would they make that up. I see the websites you look at. What's your problem with me?" I expect a clumsy pass somewhere in here but the basic thing you should get across, and say out loud, is that maybe his personality is the reason he's celibate. He needs to stop blaming everyone else for not tolerating his shit, and maybe he needs to understand his behavior is offensive. This is just a basic idea of what to get across, you should personalize it. These people saying he's dangerous are probably overreacting a little, some people are just weird and try to find ways to bump into people they like. And some lack the courage to do anything and end up looking like weirdos.

At the end tell him to get some confidence and leave you alone. I would do this in a place with witnesses because I love destroying a bad soul.

[DragonSinger]

2 hours ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said:

Okay, this is an explanation of your vitriol. Brutal honesty is an awesome way to handle people like this. You used to talk to him, when you can just ask him why he told _____ you fuck for ketamine. He will probably deny it and you can follow that with "Why would they make that up. I see the websites you look at. What's your problem with me?" I expect a clumsy pass somewhere in here but the basic thing you should get across, and say out loud, is that maybe his personality is the reason he's celibate. He needs to stop blaming everyone else for not tolerating his shit, and maybe he needs to understand his behavior is offensive. This is just a basic idea of what to get across, you should personalize it. These people saying he's dangerous are probably overreacting a little, some people are just weird and try to find ways to bump into people they like. And some lack the courage to do anything and end up looking like weirdos.

At the end tell him to get some confidence and leave you alone. I would do this in a place with witnesses because I love destroying a bad soul.

This guy is already fixated on her and giving off mass shooter warning signs, so no we are not overreacting. He also hates women and probably won't listen to any rational explanation about how his behavior is the reason why they don't want him. Public humiliation is not a route you want to go down unless you can be 100% sure about what kind of access he has to guns.

[pail]

12 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Honestly, I didn't figure it out until I saw Bucket's Toronto thread.

@Vixen_catgirl I don't want to be too invasive, but since you're talking about taking this little bitch out, does that mean he "bothered" you by actually coming up to you?  Seems to be the case, but not entirely clear.

You're welcome.

😎🍆

[Vixen_catgirl]

11 hours ago, Quackers said:

As a card carrying incel myself, you need to shut your Stacy mouth, slut

Look here, sub8. My roastie ass will do as it pleases 

[Vixen_catgirl]

12 hours ago, jackiemarie90 said:

The best way is too get better grades than them in class. Or if they get a question wrong, immediately say you know the right one. Well that's the focused on school way. If you wanna start shit, you can always say, oh that's an interesting web page you are looking at, and just be nosy.

When people talk loudly on there phones in the library I just say, "Oh my god no way, that's so interesting."

those are good. I was just gonnna throw little plastic dinosaurs at him, but this is much bettter

[Vixen_catgirl]

11 hours ago, //>wagz./ said:

//> so that's what i am./

Quit farting. Everyone knows its you.

[nameraka]

i thought about doing something once. 

it passed. 

[Vixen_catgirl]

12 hours ago, naraku360 said:

I didn't think you did. It's funny when guys think they got the last word by claiming they were rejected by someone who trades sex for drugs.

Its such a lame default insult and usually the sign that the person probably doesnt have legitimate reasons to be talking shit

[GunStarHero]

On 4/25/2018 at 2:01 AM, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

Those of us who get turned down a lot as adolescents because we are "fat" or "ugly" do the same because our thought process is "if it's ok for girls to turn me down for being fat/ugly, it should be ok for me to turn down girls because they are fat/ugly."

Idk man. I was really fat and ugly in high school to the point where I was terrified to even ask someone out in fear of them ridiculing me. I took the one thing that came my way cause I liked that guy and I wasn't about to be picky over something trivial. 

[Doom Metal Alchemist]

2 minutes ago, GunStarHero said:

Idk man. I was really fat and ugly in high school to the point where I was terrified to even ask someone out in fear of them ridiculing me. I took the one thing that came my way cause I liked that guy and I wasn't about to be picky over something trivial. 

I don't know how old you are, but when I was in high school, it wasn't that common for girls to ask out guys anyway. And I was mainly speaking from a male standpoint.

[GunStarHero]

22 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

I don't know how old you are, but when I was in high school, it wasn't that common for girls to ask out guys anyway. And I was mainly speaking from a male standpoint.

I get cha but I was pointing out that, as with most things, it's just not so black and white. There are plenty of women that fear rejection or believe themselves to be a catch when they're not, same as men. 

[scoobdog]

9 hours ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said:

Okay, this is an explanation of your vitriol. Brutal honesty is an awesome way to handle people like this. You used to talk to him, when you can just ask him why he told _____ you fuck for ketamine. He will probably deny it and you can follow that with "Why would they make that up. I see the websites you look at. What's your problem with me?" I expect a clumsy pass somewhere in here but the basic thing you should get across, and say out loud, is that maybe his personality is the reason he's celibate. He needs to stop blaming everyone else for not tolerating his shit, and maybe he needs to understand his behavior is offensive. This is just a basic idea of what to get across, you should personalize it. These people saying he's dangerous are probably overreacting a little, some people are just weird and try to find ways to bump into people they like. And some lack the courage to do anything and end up looking like weirdos.

At the end tell him to get some confidence and leave you alone. I would do this in a place with witnesses because I love destroying a bad soul.

You crazy, man?

In all seriousness, this dude is bad news and any kind of interaction with him is bound to be fruitless at best and potentially something far worse.  Granted, I'm not familiar with these "involuntary celibate" fucks, but the general concept has existed forever:  when it comes to creating a persona with the intent  to externally justify and compensate for anti-social behavior, there is most certainly concern as far as violent behavior.  He's deliberately creating conflict, and that alone makes interaction with him unpredictable and dangerous.  He might be goading C_V into acting in a way that fits with his warped sense, or, he could be looking for an opening to strike back.  The fact that he's fixated on denigrating her sexuality makes the latter a greater possibility and is especially disconcerting given that she has never discussed anything of the sort with him.  To top it all off, he's concocted this story of her being a druggie, which would make it all the easier for him to self-justify a potential rape.

This is bad news all around.  Like I said, it's not enough to get the cops involved in the absence of a direct threat, but the more she interacts with this guy, the more likely a threat occurs.

[RainyDayJizz#35]

That's why I said she should do this around witnesses, cause he will get angry. Not for public embarrassment, the guy walks around humiliated all day. He's a loser. If he seemed to have the potential for violence she might not be thinking of sending some addicts to rob him or whatever. And what's crazier, making the guy look at himself or just having him beaten? After doing that she shouldn't have to interact with him again. I wouldn't recommend she go anywhere alone for a bit, just in case. I have an advantage of being a big enough guy that people generally don't want to mess around with me, so doing things like this doesn't phase me. She knows better than any of us what to expect from the guy. He sounds like a coward to me.

 

I don't know much about these incel people, one thing I did stumble across a while back is Men Going Their Own Way. And they're all a bunch of whining losers that make you sick. And odds are most of them "suffer women" in silence. With as introverted as people have become, external action becomes way more powerful than it ever was. Especially with people like this. If she does it and ends up needing to get police involved, he got pushed far enough to create the potential to have him removed, or she does it herself. Why is talking to a person so crazy? You guys can go ahead and read into the habits of boring losers I just thought I'd throw out a suggestion about handling one.

[Drunkenwarrior]

1 hour ago, scoobdog said:

This is bad news all around.  Like I said, it's not enough to get the cops involved in the absence of a direct threat, but the more she interacts with this guy, the more likely a threat occurs.

Holy shit I actually agree with you

[//>wagz./]

3 hours ago, Vixen_catgirl said:

Quit farting. Everyone knows its you.

//> we are probably similar./ 

[Poof]

53 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said:

That's why I said she should do this around witnesses, cause he will get angry

Which seems very safe for her... 

The best thing to do is ignore him completely. Fighting with him will just reinforce a social connection. He is probably stalking her because she wears anime stuff and he likes anime so she must be his soul mate. Any acknowledgement (positive or negative) that he exists is going to give him hope or piss him off. Neither is a good idea. Like a big scary dog, you want him to just get bored and go away.

If he doesn't, if he keeps following her around, the school, police, parents, and friends need to be informed. 

[RainyDayJizz#35]

14 hours ago, Poof said:

Which seems very safe for her... 

The best thing to do is ignore him completely. Fighting with him will just reinforce a social connection. He is probably stalking her because she wears anime stuff and he likes anime so she must be his soul mate. Any acknowledgement (positive or negative) that he exists is going to give him hope or piss him off. Neither is a good idea. Like a big scary dog, you want him to just get bored and go away.

If he doesn't, if he keeps following her around, the school, police, parents, and friends need to be informed. 

I've argued with a guy that had teardrop tattoos, so take that as you will. It wasn't a serious argument but I could tell he thought about just smacking me and knew it wouldn't be worth it. I looked like more of a problem then than I do now though. And arguing in a public space should be relatively safe. If he does react, people will jump on a guy doing anything to a girl in a second. The anger will be instant, but she will get across she thinks of him as nothing. The dude was spreading rumors to a guy she talks to, and was showing her shit about that guy because he thinks any woman that talks to a man is romantically involved. A friend of mine had a guy that told her about standing outside her window because he thought it was romantic. Some dudes are dumb as shit. He's looking for someone else to blame for his shitty attitude and odd behaviors.

But again, this is all up to her judgment of his character. If she thinks this guy might creep up behind her on her way home and crack her with a lead pipe, she absolutely should not do anything I suggested. But if he's just some lame dude tell him to fuck off and let him examine himself and realize he is not a likable person. Or not, but you can't really like a person that says something like that to you. Especially if it's just dumb infatuation, anime-wise as you mentioned.

Oh! And mentioning to him that she's told other people about his habits is a fantastic blow. Just say, "And so you know, I've mentioned you to friends and family so I wouldn't really recommend trying to talk to or bump into me again." Close out however, but if she smiles and says, "Okay?" at the end, he is fucking cooked. The jackass might even go home and cry. And fuck him. He deserves to feel like a piece of shit, because he is. And the smile at the end really kills, because it drives home the point he means nothing.

But again, I am how I am. I rarely have to do things like this, but when I do it I relish it. "No, you are a fucking asshole and you are going to know it." The inner fury is simply delicious.

[enad]

On 4/25/2018 at 3:12 AM, Poof said:

i get you. a lot of those "incels" piss me off bc theyre not even involuntarily virgins they just think theyre entitled to super hot girls and call girls who are actually in their league ugly or fat or something else really mean. it's like no thats the female version of you and you need to either take care of yourself better or stop dreaming and be nice to her.

You talk to your viewership too often.  It's healthier for celebrities to keep a certain distance from their fans.

Edited April 27, 2018 by enad

[DragonSinger]

44 minutes ago, GreatBallsOfJizz said:

I've argued with a guy that had teardrop tattoos, so take that as you will. It wasn't a serious argument but I could tell he thought about just smacking me and knew it wouldn't be worth it. I looked like more of a problem then than I do now though. And arguing in a public space should be relatively safe. If he does react, people will jump on a guy doing anything to a girl in a second. The anger will be instant, but she will get across she thinks of him as nothing. The dude was spreading rumors to a guy she talks to, and was showing her shit about that guy because he thinks any woman that talks to a man is romantically involved. A friend of mine had a guy that told her about standing outside her window because he thought it was romantic. Some dudes are dumb as shit. He's looking for someone else to blame for his shitty attitude and odd behaviors.

But again, this is all up to her judgment of his character. If she thinks this guy might creep up behind her on her way home and crack her with a lead pipe, she absolutely should not do anything I suggested. But if he's just some lame dude tell him to fuck off and let him examine himself and realize he is not a likable person. Or not, but you can't really like a person that says something like that to you. Especially if it's just dumb infatuation, anime-wise as you mentioned.

Oh! And mentioning to him that she's told other people about his habits is a fantastic blow. Just say, "And so you know, I've mentioned you to friends and family so I wouldn't really recommend trying to talk to or bump into me again." Close out however, but if she smiles and says, "Okay?" at the end, he is fucking cooked. The jackass might even go home and cry. And fuck him. He deserves to feel like a piece of shit, because he is. And the smile at the end really kills, because it drives home the point he means nothing.

But again, I am how I am. I rarely have to do things like this, but when I do it I relish it. "No, you are a fucking asshole and you are going to know it." The inner fury is simply delicious.

That's cute how all of this wraps up neatly in your head, but that's not how that works in reality. Your little scenario doesn't account for what happens after he goes home and cries, and he now hates women more. Maybe he leaves Vixen alone, but this could also put her life in danger. By showing up where he thinks Vixen is going to be and online stalking her friend, this guy has already demonstrated that he's willing to go beyond talking shit. You do not antagonize people like that unless you can properly fuck them up without it coming back on you. School is not as safe as you think it is especially since people can't be on guard 24/7, which is what you'd end up having to do with men like this. 

Look at it this way. You know how hard it is to get it through your thick ass skull that this isn't the same for women as it is for dudes? Multiply that several times and that's how thickheaded entitled douchebags like this are.

[enad]

By the way you're going to find incels in every econ class, so just get used to it. 

Economics is the Alchemy of incels.

Edited April 27, 2018 by enad

[Poof]

59 minutes ago, enad said:

You talk to your viewership too often.  It's healthier for celebrities to keep a certain distance from their fans.

the 90s are over. i have to do live camshows to pay the bills. it's cute that you called me a celebrity tho

[NaBarney]

1 hour ago, SorceressPol said:

Look at it this way. You know how hard it is to get it through your thick ass skull that this isn't the same for women as it is for dudes? Multiply that several times and that's how thickheaded entitled douchebags like this are.

^^^

I think people who use the internet like you're supposed to and don't regularly do deep dives on shit forum communities besides this one just don't realize how dark the incel corners of the internet are, or if you showed them they'd think it was mostly self aware people being ironic or something. There's a not insignificant number of young dudes who were raised entirely indoors and just can't cope with living in a world where they aren't guaranteed a wife just by virtue of being male and when you read their thoughts about how they came to self identify as incel and who they blame for their not getting to be patriarchs in a patriarchal society you realize the Elliot Rodger mindset isn't an outlier, it's just that most of them haunt classrooms and people like op with their shitty personalities rather than guns if they ever interact with people offline at all. 

[NaBarney]

On 4/26/2018 at 6:02 AM, SorceressPol said:

Public humiliation is not a route you want to go down unless you can be 100% sure about what kind of access he has to guns.

It's America, he has access to guns 

Edited April 27, 2018 by Nabloom

[enad]

8 minutes ago, Nabloom said:

It's America, he has access to guns 

Only upside sex is never hotter than when you're pointing a gun at her head, so at least he can make up for lost time.

[lupin_bebop]

On 4/25/2018 at 10:11 PM, Vixen_catgirl said:

*shrugs*

I guess not. 

.................Wow. Pillows.

Edited April 27, 2018 by lupin_bebop

[RainyDayJizz#35]

6 hours ago, SorceressPol said:

You do not antagonize people like that unless you can properly fuck them up without it coming back on you.

 

Almost everything else you said is wrong, but yes, this is generally the case. That's why I said she should do it in public, cause a regular guy will cool off after a little while. Maybe she's the first girl he wanted to ask out, he'd realize it wasn't so bad and he did something wrong. I tell my friends and family when they're being assholes and they're all glad I do it. The main thing I was not aware of is that these incels are apparently Elliot Rodger fanboys. How can you watch that kid and not see he had a real problem. He was a fascination for a moment because it was like a peek inside of a crazy mind. I was just talking about dealing with some loser. I've seen women do worse shit to guys than what I said. I would say just have someone paralyze him because he's probably useless, Keep an eye on him and let the people around you know about him. If she starts hanging out with a few people that might spook him off. It's not hard to constantly have people around in school if you want to. If she has good enough friends around they'll meet up with her, because he could be looking for times she's alone. I dunno, I have video games calling and I can't be bothered to look up shit I don't care about. This internet subculture thing is doing an incredible job of filtering microcosms of society from interacting with it completely.

 

Huh. That's... actually really interesting.

[RainyDayJizz#35]