ben0119 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-charged-with-possessing-child-p-1820633519 http://comicbook.com/anime/2017/11/21/rurouni-kenshin-nobuhiro-watsuki-sex-crime-arrested-anime/ NOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 carp i need to look at other people threads are they going to pull the show from netflixs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 fml, childhood ruined, everything ruined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 I know right? I still haven't read the manga. D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillies Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 I always said all manga artists are all perverts. but no one listens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperxmns Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Does this mean I can't draw Kenshin fanart anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, viperxmns said: Does this mean I can't draw Kenshin fanart anymore Yup. It’s dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 4:52 AM, ben0119 said: https://kotaku.com/rurouni-kenshin-creator-charged-with-possessing-child-p-1820633519 http://comicbook.com/anime/2017/11/21/rurouni-kenshin-nobuhiro-watsuki-sex-crime-arrested-anime/ NOOOOOOOOOOO you know there's a lot of other Manga authors I wonder about based on the content of their Mangas Akira Toriyama is one of them.....looooooot of child nudity in classic dragonball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, mochi said: you know there's a lot of other Manga authors I wonder about based on the content of their Mangas Akira Toriyama is one of them.....looooooot of child nudity in classic dragonball Thing is though, Kenshin wasn't remotely perverted. It doesn't even really have fan service. So this really comes out of no where. Yeah but that was innocent childhood nudity. Some people think it's cute and/or funny. And there is some perverted as hell stuff in Dragon Ball, but it deals with women. Lots of it comic relief based, too. Also remember when Goku would constantly find guys' porn stashes? I don't know how the world would deal with an institution like Dragon Ball having the author being a sex offender, though. I saw someone comment somewhere they hope Oda doesn't get swept up in this since he was apparently Watsuki's assistant for years. I just... can't. Edited November 22, 2017 by ben0119 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 Saw this comment on the MAL post - https://myanimelist.net/news/53117249 "I guess I speak for the whole fandom who has been supporting the series since the beginning when most of us were just kids when I say I am so deeply upset and disappointed and I feel betrayed. Rurouni Kenshin was a huge part of my childhood and it had a big impact in my life. It really hurts knowing he wrote these characters with strong morals and beliefs only to mess it up himself. His own characters would never forgive him. That's what's giving me comfort right now, to think of Kenshin and his friends beating Watsuki's as*. Even the villains such as Shishio would never approve of his actions. I cannot however, throw away everything the series meant to me." That's an admirable thought, but, I dunno, man. It's going to be impossible for me to read or watch Kenshin again without this popping into my head. I still haven't read the manga. D: Re-watched the anime some months back, then the movie. Was going to re-watch the OVAs, watch that Kyoto Arc OVA I hadn't seen yet, then I was going to read the never animated manga arc and ending. Not sure I will now. D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimationFan14 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 49 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Saw this comment on the MAL post - https://myanimelist.net/news/53117249 "I guess I speak for the whole fandom who has been supporting the series since the beginning when most of us were just kids when I say I am so deeply upset and disappointed and I feel betrayed. Rurouni Kenshin was a huge part of my childhood and it had a big impact in my life. It really hurts knowing he wrote these characters with strong morals and beliefs only to mess it up himself. His own characters would never forgive him. That's what's giving me comfort right now, to think of Kenshin and his friends beating Watsuki's as*. Even the villains such as Shishio would never approve of his actions. I cannot however, throw away everything the series meant to me." That's an admirable thought, but, I dunno, man. It's going to be impossible for me to read or watch Kenshin again without this popping into my head. I still haven't read the manga. D: Re-watched the anime some months back, then the movie. Was going to re-watch the OVAs, watch that Kyoto Arc OVA I hadn't seen yet, then I was going to read the never animated manga arc and ending. Not sure I will now. D: This is going to be one of those things where is comes down to choosing to separate the art from the artist and figuring out if that may be possible. I’d hate to think Kenshin and the entire franshise would turn to dust and never be mentioned again. I guess the same questions can be asked about Kevin Spacey movies/shows, how many will still watch his movies compared to those who choose not to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, AnimationFan14 said: This is going to be one of those things where is comes down to choosing to separate the art from the artist and figuring out if that may be possible. I’d hate to think Kenshin and the entire franshise would turn to dust and never be mentioned again. I guess the same questions can be asked about Kevin Spacey movies/shows, how many will still watch his movies compared to those who choose not to. Yeah, I'd prefer to be able to separate it in my mind, but I don't know if I can. I mean I pretty much don't even think about Chris Benoit anymore unless someone else brings him up, and I haven't gone back and watched any of his stuff since then. Maybe it's easier to not notice with an author, artist, or director, since you aren't physically seeing the person onscreen who did the deeds? The fact it's a comic/anime and not live action, another degree of separation, might also help? Don't know. I think it also depends on the severity of the offense. Then again, Mike Tyson once bit a man's ear off, was convicted of rape, was a legit scary, violent dude. Now he's a lovable gentle giant doing comedies and starring in an Adult Swim show, pretty much making fun of himself, and raising homing pigeons. So, redemption is possible. But, child porn? That's quite a line crossed. And it's not like anything Watsuki does will ever stop him from having that fetish. At least maybe the girls are just nude and not actually molested in the videos, not that that helps much. It's tough, for sure. Edited November 22, 2017 by ben0119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimationFan14 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, ben0119 said: Yeah, I'd prefer to be able to separate it in my mind, but I don't know if I can. I mean I pretty much don't even think about Chris Benoit anymore unless someone else brings him up, and I haven't gone back and watched any of his stuff since then. Maybe it's easier to not notice with an author, artist, or director, since you aren't physically seeing the person onscreen who did the deeds? The fact it's a comic/anime and not live action, another degree of separation, might also help? Don't know. I think it also depends on the severity of the offense. Then again, Mike Tyson once bit a man's ear off, was convicted of rape, was a legit scary, violent dude. Now he's a lovable gentle giant doing comedies and starring in an Adult Swim show, pretty much making fun of himself, and raising homing pigeons. So, redemption is possible. But, child porn? That's quite a line crossed. And it's not like anything Watsuki does will ever stop him from having that fetish. At least maybe the girls are just nude and not actually molested in the videos, not that that helps much. It's tough, for sure. It will be a very sensitive tough issue, for a lot of people. When it comes to any anime or OVA adaptions I think there can be a big degree of separation since like you said the man himself isn’t onscreen and it is not even live action itself. Plus when it comes to any filler then it isn’t really his work at that point. In the cases of say Mike Tyson and Mel Gibson their redemption of sorts was achievable due in part to no cases of child porn and the like against them. That is a whole different level of criminal, for good reason of course. Edited November 23, 2017 by AnimationFan14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scope Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 8:05 PM, Phillies said: I always said all manga artists are all perverts. but no one listens. Must be true coming from you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 ever since this came to light, the one thing that's been on my mind is a scene in the RuroKen manga of the Kyoto arc. sixteen year old Misao covers herself in a cloak and poses as some sort of forest prostitute in order to lure a group of grown men into a false sense of security so she can rob them. but when she throws off her cloak in preparation to attack, all the men are visibly disappointed. as soon as they can see that she's a teenage girl and not a grown woman, they decide that she's not worth their time and begin to sulk away en masse, remarking that a little kid like her should just go hoe to her mother. (she then has to beat them up to get their money and supplies) but i always found that scene so refreshing. men who, upon seeing that a woman is an underage teenage girl, become entirely disinterested in her sexually and decide to leave without incident. i always thought that this scene was indicative of Watsuki's own views, but I guess that isn't the case. i always used to recall that scene as an example of some modicum of decency, but i guess real life, once again, couldn't meet fiction's standards. so disappointed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 This is sad to see. I can see how this is going to ruin Rurouni Kenshin for some people, but most people will probably be able to get past it. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, anyway. Look at the movie Chinatown, for example. Even today, it's considered a cinema classic, and one of the greatest movies of all time, despite the reputation Roman Polanski gained after making it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 15 hours ago, CaptainStarwind said: This is sad to see. I can see how this is going to ruin Rurouni Kenshin for some people, but most people will probably be able to get past it. This isn't the first time something like this has happened, anyway. Look at the movie Chinatown, for example. Even today, it's considered a cinema classic, and one of the greatest movies of all time, despite the reputation Roman Polanski gained after making it. I don't agree with that. Pretty sure it's a small minority of people that still care about Roman Polanski's movies. And a lot them have defended the man and his actions, including people in Hollywood. Woudn't be surprised if they're perverts themselves given everything that's been coming out lately. I know I have no interest in them. How could anybody ever watch/read Kenshin without this popping into their head? It's like trying to watch something with David Carradine and not think about his ridiculous death. http://variety.com/2017/film/asia/japan-sex-scandal-rurouni-kenshin-nobuhiro-watsuki-child-pornography-1202622793/ By the way, a screening of the movies was canceled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, ben0119 said: How could anybody ever watch/read Kenshin without this popping into their head? It's like trying to watch something with David Carradine and not think about his ridiculous death. I easily could and I don't. Watched Lone Wolf McQaude a while back, didn't think about it once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 4 hours ago, ben0119 said: I don't agree with that. Pretty sure it's a small minority of people that still care about Roman Polanski's movies. And a lot them have defended the man and his actions, including people in Hollywood. Woudn't be surprised if they're perverts themselves given everything that's been coming out lately. I know I have no interest in them. You can argue that point for some movies (The Master is and forever will be the worst movie I've ever watched) but Chinatown is actually a good movie. I'm assuming you've watched it, but if not then I'd recommend it. I don't think you'll be as disappointed as you think you'll be. 4 hours ago, ben0119 said: How could anybody ever watch/read Kenshin without this popping into their head? It's like trying to watch something with David Carradine and not think about his ridiculous death. Just because it might be at the back of my mind doesn't mean I'm going to actively let it influence my opinion. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm never going to like Rurouni Kenshin ever again, because if I did then I know I'd be lying to myself. I understand that there are going to be some people who won't be able to think about Rurouni Kenshin right now without thinking about all of this. It's the same kind of thing that's going on with Kevin Spacey and House of Cards. Feeling are going to be strong for a while. But the thing is, over time, those feelings are going to fade. They're going to become less intense, and most people aren't going to have a problem watching it again. That doesn't mean that they need to accept that what the person did was right. All it means is that they've become able to separate the media from the person. Even beyond that, think about 30 years from now. People who aren't even born yet will be watching Rurouni Kenshin. They're not going to think about what the author did 30 years ago. It's not going to influence their opinion of the show. Rurouni Kenshin will live on, even if the author's reputation doesn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUU8800 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Having only barely glanced at the other comments I'll just say it was fairly disheartening to discover, but won't affect my opinion regarding Kenshin. Honestly the biggest impact it might have on that front is preventing me from completing my collection of the manga, though I was in no hurry to do that anyway. Separate the art from the artist, it's on you if you can't. Edited November 29, 2017 by BUU8800 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J.M. Matthews Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 10:24 AM, ghostrek said: carp i need to look at other people threads are they going to pull the show from netflixs No, it's in my Roku queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.M. Matthews Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/27/2017 at 7:05 PM, CaptainStarwind said: You can argue that point for some movies (The Master is and forever will be the worst movie I've ever watched) but Chinatown is actually a good movie. I'm assuming you've watched it, but if not then I'd recommend it. I don't think you'll be as disappointed as you think you'll be. Just because it might be at the back of my mind doesn't mean I'm going to actively let it influence my opinion. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm never going to like Rurouni Kenshin ever again, because if I did then I know I'd be lying to myself. I understand that there are going to be some people who won't be able to think about Rurouni Kenshin right now without thinking about all of this. It's the same kind of thing that's going on with Kevin Spacey and House of Cards. Feeling are going to be strong for a while. But the thing is, over time, those feelings are going to fade. They're going to become less intense, and most people aren't going to have a problem watching it again. That doesn't mean that they need to accept that what the person did was right. All it means is that they've become able to separate the media from the person. Even beyond that, think about 30 years from now. People who aren't even born yet will be watching Rurouni Kenshin. They're not going to think about what the author did 30 years ago. It's not going to influence their opinion of the show. Rurouni Kenshin will live on, even if the author's reputation doesn't. Eeeeeeek. A porno! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.M. Matthews Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/21/2017 at 9:44 PM, viperxmns said: Does this mean I can't draw Kenshin fanart anymore Does this mean I can't retweet peewee herman anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 12:47 AM, mochi said: that's messed up, Mochi....that looks all kinds of fucked up Toramaru was an awesome character too...I dug this episode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 y'know what, fine, i'm willing to give up my Buso Renkin dvd set, but i'm keeping my Kenshin shit....shit's a work of art, muvfukkas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) On 11/27/2017 at 6:05 PM, CaptainStarwind said: You can argue that point for some movies (The Master is and forever will be the worst movie I've ever watched) but Chinatown is actually a good movie. I'm assuming you've watched it, but if not then I'd recommend it. I don't think you'll be as disappointed as you think you'll be. Just because it might be at the back of my mind doesn't mean I'm going to actively let it influence my opinion. I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm never going to like Rurouni Kenshin ever again, because if I did then I know I'd be lying to myself. I understand that there are going to be some people who won't be able to think about Rurouni Kenshin right now without thinking about all of this. It's the same kind of thing that's going on with Kevin Spacey and House of Cards. Feeling are going to be strong for a while. But the thing is, over time, those feelings are going to fade. They're going to become less intense, and most people aren't going to have a problem watching it again. That doesn't mean that they need to accept that what the person did was right. All it means is that they've become able to separate the media from the person. Even beyond that, think about 30 years from now. People who aren't even born yet will be watching Rurouni Kenshin. They're not going to think about what the author did 30 years ago. It's not going to influence their opinion of the show. Rurouni Kenshin will live on, even if the author's reputation doesn't. Havent seen it and his stuff doesn't interest me. Butcha hipster arthouse shit. You keep saying "most people" when I'm pretty sure you just mean yourself. And I doubt it will be most anyway. Thing is if it's in the back of my mind it's in my mind. Would be one thing if I could completely put it out of there, but I can't. So with that presence it ruins it for me. I've never gone back and watched Chris Benoit matches. He was excellent at his craft and one of my favorites, but I don't care. He murdered his family. I basically don't think about him at all anymore and he essentially doesn't nor ever existed for me now. If someone brings him up only then do I know of him. So, I probably just won't think about Kenshin anymore, as sad as it is. Was one of my favorites and I never even got to finish it. But I won't be able to purge it from my mind, what the author did, while I try to consume the series. In 30 years people will Google the series or its author and this will be the first thing that comes up. My opinion of the series that it's a classic and a masterpiece doesn't change but I'll never be able to experience it the way I did before. It will always carry this baggage for me. Edited December 14, 2017 by ben0119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 11:02 PM, BUU8800 said: Having only barely glanced at the other comments I'll just say it was fairly disheartening to discover, but won't affect my opinion regarding Kenshin. Honestly the biggest impact it might have on that front is preventing me from completing my collection of the manga, though I was in no hurry to do that anyway. Separate the art from the artist, it's on you if you can't. I can't. So yes, it's on me, but it's more on Watsuki for buying child porn. There's also a cut-off for separating the art from the artist. It's not like he shoplifted or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 8:13 PM, Spindack said: Does this mean I can't retweet peewee herman anymore? Peewee Herman was caught masturbating... in a porn theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUU8800 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Well you quoted me so might as well as respond. You know, I wrote up a few sentence long answer before deciding it wasn't really worth it. So I'll just say I disagree with your opinion and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 21 hours ago, ben0119 said: You keep saying "most people" when I'm pretty sure you just mean yourself. And I doubt it will be most anyway. Thing is if it's in the back of my mind it's in my mind. Would be one thing if I could completely put it out of there, but I can't. So with that presence it ruins it for me. I've never gone back and watched Chris Benoit matches. He was excellent at his craft and one of my favorites, but I don't care. He murdered his family. I basically don't think about him at all anymore and he essentially doesn't nor ever existed for me now. If someone brings him up only then do I know of him. So, I probably just won't think about Kenshin anymore, as sad as it is. Was one of my favorites and I never even got to finish it. But I won't be able to purge it from my mind, what the author did, while I try to consume the series. In 30 years people will Google the series or its author and this will be the first thing that comes up. My opinion of the series that it's a classic and a masterpiece doesn't change but I'll never be able to experience it the way I did before. It will always carry this baggage for me. Chris Benoit is a different situation than this, or at least I see it as such. Rurouni Kenshin is, at the end of the day, a piece of art. You can separate the artist from the artist. Chris Benoit was Chris Benoit, even when he wrestled, so it's much more difficult to watch his matches and not think that he killed himself and his family. I'm not going to downplay the seriousness of what Watsuki did, but to think that Rurouni Kenshin is going to be ruined for most people forever is overreacting to the situation. It'll probably be just fine. I can definitely see manga sales dipping a bit, at least in the short term, but if something is good, people will be attracted to it. You'll definitely get some mention of of his child porn charge when you google Watsuki Nobuhiro, but probably not so much for Rurouni Kenshin. I just googled it. Looking over the first 30 results (looking past that is isn't really worth it), only 4/30 of them reference Watsuki's arrest in some way. Of those 4, there is 1 on the second page, and 3 on the third page. Two more links state only that the manga is going on hiatus. Unless some major development happens in his prosecution, I don't think news of Watsuki's arrest will show up much in Rurouni Kenshin search results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) On 12/14/2017 at 10:56 PM, CaptainStarwind said: Chris Benoit is a different situation than this, or at least I see it as such. Rurouni Kenshin is, at the end of the day, a piece of art. You can separate the artist from the artist. Chris Benoit was Chris Benoit, even when he wrestled, so it's much more difficult to watch his matches and not think that he killed himself and his family. I'm not going to downplay the seriousness of what Watsuki did, but to think that Rurouni Kenshin is going to be ruined for most people forever is overreacting to the situation. It'll probably be just fine. I can definitely see manga sales dipping a bit, at least in the short term, but if something is good, people will be attracted to it. You'll definitely get some mention of of his child porn charge when you google Watsuki Nobuhiro, but probably not so much for Rurouni Kenshin. I just googled it. Looking over the first 30 results (looking past that is isn't really worth it), only 4/30 of them reference Watsuki's arrest in some way. Of those 4, there is 1 on the second page, and 3 on the third page. Two more links state only that the manga is going on hiatus. Unless some major development happens in his prosecution, I don't think news of Watsuki's arrest will show up much in Rurouni Kenshin search results. True. And I did mention the degrees of separation with it being an anime/manga and not live action, the fact you're not seeing Watsuki himself onscreen. It's not like with an actor etc. Still, I don't know that I could ever put it out of my head whenever I try to watch or read it again. Maybe that will change with time. I don't know. Really makes me wish I hadn't dragged my feet with reading the manga though. I dunno I see most people as being pretty unforgiving of owning child porn. Though if they aren't aware of it and don't even know much about the creator, if anything, like it would be with many people, it obviously wouldn't be an issue. I mean, believe it or not, a lot of people don't look into creators or behind the scenes stuff. They don't care. They consume the content and that's enough for them. I just looked. The news about Watsuki's arrest is the first thing below the wikis and MAL page. And right underneath that is the announcement about the new manga going on hiatus. So yeah it's only once on the page but it's pretty prominent and hard to miss. Well there's obviously going to be a development. The cops have incontrovertible evidence, and Watsuki basically admitted to his guilt. Edited December 24, 2017 by ben0119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Always thought RK was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, pail said: Always thought RK was terrible. no that there needed to be confirmation, but here it is....you are a terrible person... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 hours ago, ben0119 said: True. And I did mention the degrees of separation with it being an anime/manga and not live action, the fact you're not seeing Watsuki himself onscreen. It's not like with an actor etc. Still, I don't know that I could ever put it out of my head whenever I try to watch or read it again. Maybe that will change with time. I don't know. Really makes me wish I hadn't dragged my feet with reading the manga though. I dunno I see most people as being pretty unforgiving of owning child porn. Though if they aren't aware of it and don't even know much about the creator, if anything, like it would be with many people, it obviously wouldn't be an issue. I mean, believe it or not, a lot of people don't look into creators or behind the scenes stuff. They don't care. They consume the content and that's enough for them. I just looked. The news about Watsuki's arrest is the first thing below the wikis and MAL page. And right underneath that is the announcement about the new manga going on hiatus. So yeah it's only once on the page but it's pretty prominent and hard to miss. Well there's obviously going to be a development. The cops have incontrovertible evidence, and Watsuki basically admitted to his guilt. I gotta admit, I had a terrible thought...it went something like, "good thing we got the live action movies before this came out" '>.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mix said: no that there needed to be confirmation, but here it is....you are a terrible person... Code Geass and Cowboy Bebop will continue to live on as the greatest anime ever conceived and created. Sorry bruv but RK is shit. Nobody relates to samurai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, pail said: Code Geass and Cowboy Bebop will continue to live on as the greatest anime ever conceived and created. Sorry bruv but RK is shit. Nobody relates to samurai. (I can't argue against Bebop 'cause it holds a similar hallowed spot in my heart, so I'm just going to pretend you said the rest of that shit with Code Geass anchoring your post) Response - Code f'ing Geass ........relatability .....suck my dick Analysis - this is by far one of my best crafted responses if I do say so myself...elegant and succinct... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Mix said: (I can't argue against Bebop 'cause it holds a similar hallowed spot in my heart, so I'm just going to pretend you said the rest of that shit with Code Geass anchoring your post) Response - Code f'ing Geass ........relatability .....suck my dick Analysis - this is by far one of my best crafted responses if I do say so myself...elegant and succinct... Yeah. Code Geass. One of the highest rated shows on MAL. A show that's a decade old and is getting a new season. Quit pretending that it's a bad show. That attitude is so... 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, pail said: Yeah. Code Geass. One of the highest rated shows on MAL. A show that's a decade old and is getting a new season. Quit pretending that it's a bad show. That attitude is so... 2009. we're discussing arbitrary fan opinion here....precipitated by your original post which also serves as a clear cut example...I can say, pretense or not, whatever the fuck I want....and so, I repeat, suck my dick RUROUNI KENSHIN FO LYFE, MUTHAFUKKAAAAAA!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Just now, Mix said: we're discussing arbitrary fan opinion here....precipitated by your original post which also serves as a clear cut example...I can say, pretense or not, whatever the fuck I want....and so, I repeat, suck my dick RUROUNI KENSHIN FO LYFE, MUTHAFUKKAAAAAA!!!! Uh huh. You're confusing facts and opinions. It's okay. I hear that's a common ailment brought upon by fanboyitis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 21 minutes ago, pail said: Uh huh. You're confusing facts and opinions. It's okay. I hear that's a common ailment brought upon by fanboyitis. really...this is a fact based argument you've built up... Calling a franchise that's spanned 23 years, 28 volumes, 95 episodes, 3 animated films, 3 live action films, and 5 play station games, shit.... so, "it's shit," is a now recognized as a fact based appraisal? -"why should I buy WRX instead of the Evo, Donny?" -"the evo's shit?" -"does it not compare favorably in reliability?" -"damn it I told you it's shit, didn't I" -"I'm sorry yeah, you did say that" suck my dick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Call down Fanboy McFannenstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/23/2017 at 10:02 PM, Clem Fandango said: I gotta admit, I had a terrible thought...it went something like, "good thing we got the live action movies before this came out" '>.> I was thinking the same thing about finishing my re-watch of the series several months ago. >.> I didn't get around to reading the last arc in the manga or watching the live action movies yet though. D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Yo, how come no one said shit about that teenage girl dating that old man in Initial D??? I remember intially questioning it and I just figured she was 18, but idk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 IIRC, Natsuki was a senior in high school during all those relevant stages of Initial D. That and the possibility of her having sex with that older man was honestly kind of ambiguous. At the very least, it was confirmed she was dating him in exchange for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, Clem Fandango said: Yo, how come no one said shit about that teenage girl dating that old man in Initial D??? I remember intially questioning it and I just figured she was 18, but idk... You must not have been hanging around in anime forums too much when Initial D was more popular. We bugged the shit out of Japanese fans about how much were sugar daddies a things over there, which lead to interesting discussions until Natsuki hate would derail threads and get a bunch of posts deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: IIRC, Natsuki was a senior in high school during all those relevant stages of Initial D. That and the possibility of her having sex with that older man was honestly kind of ambiguous. At the very least, it was confirmed she was dating him in exchange for money. I asked 'cause I was re-watching it and her convos with the old dude implied he was hittin' that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mix Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 5 hours ago, SorceressPol said: You must not have been hanging around in anime forums too much when Initial D was more popular. We bugged the shit out of Japanese fans about how much were sugar daddies a things over there, which lead to interesting discussions until Natsuki hate would derail threads and get a bunch of posts deleted. yeah I did some research....I should have known, I mean they have used panties in vending machines, but you get 7 years for marijuana possession... I guess the sugar daddy thing is just another one of those hush hush things that happens over there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) kinda just bad timing on Oda's part but some people in the One Piece Fandom are upset now because it's been revealed that this woman, who's supposed to Marry Sanji, is actually a little girl Edited January 14, 2018 by mochi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) Little as in standard loli age, or little as in teenage but not yet 18? Even then, it's not like arranged marriages like that are uncommon or anything, at least in worlds with spare technological presence like One Piece. Edited January 14, 2018 by PokeNirvash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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