Naraku4656 Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Johnny Depp doesn't belong in the same sentence as Gene Wilder, much less remake a movie he was in
Danger_Jules Posted May 19, 2017 Author Posted May 19, 2017 But Depp's film was more like the source book than Wilder's was.
bnmjy Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Wilder was sarcastic whereas Depp was creepy. Supposedly, Dahl, the author of the book, was disappointed with Wilder's performance and Depp is closer to the way Wonka is supposed to be. I still like Wilder's version more, of course.
Naraku4656 Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 But Depp's film was more like the source book than Wilder's was. sometimes the adaptation is better than the source material. see: House of Cards (2013)
Ric Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Haven't seen the Depp one, didn't even like the trailers.
scoobdog Posted May 19, 2017 Posted May 19, 2017 Wilder was sarcastic whereas Depp was creepy. Supposedly, Dahl, the author of the book, was disappointed with Wilder's performance and Depp is closer to the way Wonka is supposed to be. I still like Wilder's version more, of course. That's interesting. Wilder's smarmy Wonka has a subtlety that Depp's Wonka can't really touch, but Depp's Wonka has slightly more range, mostly because Wilder is so eerily even throughout the performance that the time he melts down near the end is shocking. Also, never listen to the writer.
Danger_Jules Posted May 20, 2017 Author Posted May 20, 2017 I liked the Depp one honestly. As did I. In fact, I actually liked Depp's version better than Wilder's. It showed more warmth and emotion to the tale and was far more fun.
Mohri Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 I like the town & pre-factory setting of the remake. But, for the better Wonka and film? I have to go with the one staring Wilder.
Juice McKenzie Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 The original is called "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory"
André Toulon Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 OMAGAH, is that Pew? *deletes* Anyway.....I'ma be honset....I hate both of them and only suffered though the first because they made us watch it at school.......I actually thought i might like the burton one, but nope
Hornshire Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 Wilder's depiction was a much more likable character. Doesn't make it better, though. We read somewhere that Depp took inspiration from Michael Jackson to get a creepy, unrelatable, children-loving vibe. And We think he pulled that off rather well. The subplot with Wonka's father being a dentist in the remake was awful. The new interpretation of the oompa-loompas was somewhat distracting, like it never felt like it was part of the same movie. The original certainly has the same "and now we cut to the singing midgets" routine, it just feels like it belongs more, to Us at least. We liked the adults in the original more. They seemed less like cartoon characters. That may be largely due to the fact that We haven't seen the original since becoming an adult ourself, and had a completely different perspective of how grown-ups behave. There's a lot about the remake that We don't remember, having only seen it once. We remember feeling like it was a generally good movie, with some flaws here and there, and there were things it actually did better than the original... We just don't recall what those were. It was far and away closer to the book, which is nice and all, but really doesn't have any bearing on being a good movie.
CAC Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 As did I. In fact, I actually liked Depp's version better than Wilder's. It showed more warmth and emotion to the tale and was far more fun. I agree.
blueraven1999 Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 I love Depp, but 1970's Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is the best. Wilder did an excellent job. Personally I didn't care for the remake and it's one of the few Burton films that I don't like.
stilgar Posted May 20, 2017 Posted May 20, 2017 Buddyroe360[/member] it looks like they did delete my post but they left yours. Hilarious.
André Toulon Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 Buddyroe360[/member] it looks like they did delete my post but they left yours. Hilarious. LOL.....Musta been Luuv....He's not very good at this stuff EDIT.....My avatar is gone? LOL.....Maybe he just has bad aim
Sieg67 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 But Depp's film was more like the source book than Wilder's was. A movie being closer to the book doesn't make it better. Just look at Fight Club. A thing we won't talk about.
Misaka Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 A movie being closer to the book doesn't make it better. Just look at Fight Club. A thing we won't talk about. how about ghost in the shell?
Sieg67 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 I don't know much about it besides what was in the animated stuff. I haven't even watched the live action yet. I hear they changed some stuff around which I don't find ideal but I understand that a couple of things need to be changed if you want to cram multiple sources into one movie. Although I'm not sure why they wouldn't just remake the first movie by itself. It would have kept the neat visuals while sticking closer to the story.
Top Gun Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 I've loved Roald Dahl's books since grade school, and I deeply respect him, but he was dead wrong about the 70s adaptations. Gene Wilder's performance is one of the all-time greats, and the movie manages to be both heartwarming and really goddamn creepy at turns, which is just right. I didn't even have any interest in seeing Depp's version.
Sieg67 Posted May 21, 2017 Posted May 21, 2017 One guy playing all the Oompa Loompas is the main thing that killed it for me. Like hire some midgets for fucks sake.
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