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Insipid Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: Anthem BC/BS has backed down on their decision to limit surgery times by not paying for anesthesia. I guess getting security for their employees wasn’t cost effective https://www.greenwichtime.com/connecticut/article/ct-anthem-blue-cross-shield-anesthesia-policy-time-19961321.php Was about to post this. Looks like some c-suite executives are shitting themselves over the murder. Good. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: Next time someone tells me “violence doesn’t accomplish anything” I’ll just refer them to these articles Well no one wants violence, but the empirical evidence shows it might have worked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: I ctfu at the NYP trying to shame a journalist for saying “no wonder people want them dead” attached to the notification about NY CT and MO getting anesthesia denied if surgery goes too long. Now, mind you, BC/BS would probably pay NONE of the cost if that happened I’m tired of pos people gaslighting us into thinking not caring about this is wrong. Look what those monsters were about to do I do find the lack of empathy kind of shocking, but only because I'd given up hope that we could be honest about what's going on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 5 Author Share Posted December 5 I been lurking some conservative spaces too and many think our healthcare system is the best in the world only a small number admitted that insurers were fucked up we aren’t even the best in the world Singapore Japan and Korea are. We’re like 69th https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/#:~:text=The Best Healthcare Systems in the World in 2024&text=According to this assessment%2C what,came in 2nd and 3rd. quite a few nations ahead of us w Socialized Healthcare. Idt the top 3 are, at least not completely 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 3 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: “Sickening post” that’s sickening. Not that this guy was a thief, bad husband and caused misery and death to those paying for their shit insurance 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, discolé monade said: It’s mind blowing though how they have no bottom to the bullshit they’ll spew. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 doublethink + newspeak = doublespeak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 5 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: I been lurking some conservative spaces too and many think our healthcare system is the best in the world only a small number admitted that insurers were fucked up we aren’t even the best in the world Singapore Japan and Korea are. We’re like 69th https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/#:~:text=The Best Healthcare Systems in the World in 2024&text=According to this assessment%2C what,came in 2nd and 3rd. quite a few nations ahead of us w Socialized Healthcare. Idt the top 3 are, at least not completely Healthcare in Japan is not free, but the government sets the prices for everything, so it's much cheaper. You'll never file for bankruptcy over medical bills there. Quite an amazing system, considering Japan has the largest percentage of people over 65 of any nation. I've heard numerous stories of Americans having to go to Japanese emergency rooms without insurance and being surprised to see their medical bills only be several hundreds of dollars. The same uninsured ER incidents would be thousands of dollars in America. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 9 hours ago, Insipid said: Healthcare in Japan is not free, but the government sets the prices for everything, so it's much cheaper. You'll never file for bankruptcy over medical bills there. Quite an amazing system, considering Japan has the largest percentage of people over 65 of any nation. I've heard numerous stories of Americans having to go to Japanese emergency rooms without insurance and being surprised to see their medical bills only be several hundreds of dollars. The same uninsured ER incidents would be thousands of dollars in America. But what happens if someone can’t even afford the prices the government set? Idk I kinda have a hard time believing their healthcare system rated so high when they still stigmatize certain conditions like drug addiction. They don’t even allow visitors to bring methadone into the country unless it’s for pain so I can’t even imagine how they treat their addicted population. I haven’t looked into it but that definitely isn’t a great sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 Looks like Japan doesn’t have much of (at least not admitted) opioid problem because it’s very hard to get but they have problems with uppers. But that just raises more questions on its high rating. How do they treat extreme pain associated with cancer or even broken bones? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 43 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: But what happens if someone can’t even afford the prices the government set? Idk I kinda have a hard time believing their healthcare system rated so high when they still stigmatize certain conditions like drug addiction. They don’t even allow visitors to bring methadone into the country unless it’s for pain so I can’t even imagine how they treat their addicted population. I haven’t looked into it but that definitely isn’t a great sign. It's not a perfect system, but it works better for a larger portion of the Japanese population than the American healthcare does for the average American. I was referring to uninsured scenarios in my earlier example. Most people have a combination of national and privatized insurance that makes their healthcare very cheap. Again not perfect, and there probably are extreme scenarios where healthcare is too expensive, but it is not the norm there. You can easily find stories of Americans having to file bankruptcy over medical debt. Yes, the whole attitude towards drug addiction in Japan could use improvement, but you have to consider other metrics. Of all developed nations, Japan has the lowest obesity rate, Japanese women have the highest life expectancy, and the average citizen visits the doctor several times per year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lupin_bebop Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 I submitted thoughts and/or prayers to be used. I was denied because they are not allowed with my level of coverage plan. Turns out that they are out-of-network for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 Are we sure the killer HAS to be arrested? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 16 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: I been lurking some conservative spaces too and many think our healthcare system is the best in the world only a small number admitted that insurers were fucked up we aren’t even the best in the world Singapore Japan and Korea are. We’re like 69th https://www.internationalinsurance.com/health/systems/#:~:text=The Best Healthcare Systems in the World in 2024&text=According to this assessment%2C what,came in 2nd and 3rd. quite a few nations ahead of us w Socialized Healthcare. Idt the top 3 are, at least not completely I assume we’re #1 for bullet wounds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[classic swim] Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 Shitty teeth. No dental care? Just wanted to nibble on some copper? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 47 minutes ago, SwimOdin said: I assume we’re #1 for bullet wounds. Top 10 causes of death for people under 50 #1 is unintentional injuries and 2 suicide https://www.verywellhealth.com/top-causes-of-death-for-ages-25-44-2223958 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 Not since 9/11 have I seen such unity of thought and emotion in this country 🇺🇸 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 1 hour ago, SwimOdin said: Are we sure the killer HAS to be arrested? I would not be surprised if he’s in Canada by now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 2 hours ago, SwimOdin said: Not since 9/11 have I seen such unity of thought and emotion in this country 🇺🇸 Every post I see of people pretending to be surprised that we don’t gaf has been met with a lot of “are you for real?” Type of responses. The hit man is a hero not a villain to most of us 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 2 hours ago, Jman said: I would not be surprised if he’s in Canada by now. I hope he is. I don’t want him caught. Although jury selection would probably be a hoot cuz the honest people will outright say “I’m not finding them guilty” and take a long time to find a complete jury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 53 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: I hope he is. I don’t want him caught. Although jury selection would probably be a hoot cuz the honest people will outright say “I’m not finding them guilty” and take a long time to find a complete jury. He could be planning the next target. Good luck, dude. Good luck. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 Is it too wild to say this guy saved lives? BCBS has reversed their insane “please die during surgery” policy. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 1 minute ago, SwimOdin said: Is it too wild to say this guy saved lives? BCBS has reversed their insane “please die during surgery” policy. all of this. every single bit. healthcare is a joke, and those clowns proved that. trying to doublespeak with 'that's not what we meant, but we'll concede' type of bs. eh 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 28 minutes ago, SwimOdin said: Is it too wild to say this guy saved lives? BCBS has reversed their insane “please die during surgery” policy. I thought this too and I live in one of the states in which that would have applied. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 6 Author Share Posted December 6 26 minutes ago, discolé monade said: all of this. every single bit. healthcare is a joke, and those clowns proved that. trying to doublespeak with 'that's not what we meant, but we'll concede' type of bs. eh They meant that shit they think we’re stupid. That man was the hero we need rn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 (edited) lost the link. Edited December 6 by discolé monade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katt_goddess Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 8 hours ago, SwimOdin said: Are we sure the killer HAS to be arrested? My thought is he might never be arrested because he might actually be a terminally ill person who was denied coverage of something that would have fixed things right up. He'll be 'found' when he dies of whatever he got thanks to a shitty healthcare system. And yes, he's probably in Canada right now. He went to a bus station that does out of state routes and they don't know which bus he got on. Canada doesn't do the death penalty so they would refuse to ship him back if that's remotely on the table and they catch him first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ninja_Jesus- Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 I thought what I’d do was, I’d pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 This Ben Shapiro video has overwhelmingly negative comments, and most people commenting aren't even leftists. That shooter is a folk hero now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 I feel like "evil" and "revolutionary" kinda negate each other because...🤔 I don't have a reason....It just seems revolution doesn't usually happen when shit is peachy keen. Curse you weed, making me think I actually had something to contribute. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 The NY Times (behind a paywall, lol) has the most sensible opinion piece so far, pointing out that people should be wondering why everyone was cheering the death of the CEO, and comparing it to the Gilded Age anarchy that led the government to make a social safety net for its citizens. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 hour ago, André Toulon said: I feel like "evil" and "revolutionary" kinda negate each other because...🤔 I don't have a reason....It just seems revolution doesn't usually happen when shit is peachy keen. Curse you weed, making me think I actually had something to contribute. this. i was going to type out some long winded statement. but nah. i applaud the gentleman. is it right? nope. but neither is a lot of fucking things going on in this country. j/s. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 7 Author Share Posted December 7 On 12/5/2024 at 6:01 PM, scoobdog said: I do find the lack of empathy kind of shocking, but only because I'd given up hope that we could be honest about what's going on. I don’t understand how anyone finds that shocking. He was a terrible human and people are over all the bullshit and pretense that because someone died we have to be kind. As far as I’m concerned the dude that did this was Batman or The Punisher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 7 Author Share Posted December 7 2 hours ago, André Toulon said: I feel like "evil" and "revolutionary" kinda negate each other because...🤔 I don't have a reason....It just seems revolution doesn't usually happen when shit is peachy keen. Curse you weed, making me think I actually had something to contribute. Evil brings on revolutionary acts. It has throughout history, at least American history 3 hours ago, Insipid said: This Ben Shapiro video has overwhelmingly negative comments, and most people commenting aren't even leftists. That shooter is a folk hero now. Did he always wear a kippah? Idr him wearing one all the time lol he doesn’t know what Bluesky actually is 😆 he’s a fool anyway. Fuck him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 5 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: I don’t understand how anyone finds that shocking. He was a terrible human and people are over all the bullshit and pretense that because someone died we have to be kind. As far as I’m concerned the dude that did this was Batman or The Punisher Point of order: Batman doesn’t use guns or kill. Batman is not the hero we needed. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 7 Author Share Posted December 7 He didn’t just do his job he made more adjusters delay and deny claims. Giving bonuses to workers who denied more than he paid. Shapiro is a fuckin idiot. He sounds like all the dumb shit MD would say 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 7 Author Share Posted December 7 2 minutes ago, SwimOdin said: Point of order: Batman doesn’t use guns or kill. Batman is not the hero we needed. Punisher for sure? John Wick? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 1 hour ago, 1pooh4u said: I don’t understand how anyone finds that shocking. He was a terrible human and people are over all the bullshit and pretense that because someone died we have to be kind. As far as I’m concerned the dude that did this was Batman or The Punisher It’s shocking we’re over the bullshit and pretense. The healthcare system has been grinding up and spitting out Americans for at least my lifetime and it’s taken this long for a CEO to get capped for it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/07/fbi-reward-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson FBI offers $50,000 reward. I would but my insurance literally doesn’t cover vision, so… 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Oh my god this is the closest thing I've seen to class solidarity in a long fucking time 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Cloud_Overhead Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 10 hours ago, Jman said: The NY Times (behind a paywall, lol) has the most sensible opinion piece so far, pointing out that people should be wondering why everyone was cheering the death of the CEO, and comparing it to the Gilded Age anarchy that led the government to make a social safety net for its citizens. Yeah, anyone wondering how come there's people who aren't exactly broken up about this guy's death, ought to just take a look at this... https://digg.com/data-viz/link/us-household-wealth-gap-1-percent-data-viz-graph-chart I mean it's not rocket science. Not saying it in any way makes it right, but it makes it understandable why a lot of people are lacking in sympathy for someone at the top end there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Insipid Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 Such a beautiful phrase I've been encountering a lot over this issue: "more than just the left." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lupin_bebop Posted December 8 Share Posted December 8 On 12/6/2024 at 1:43 PM, 1pooh4u said: Every post I see of people pretending to be surprised that we don’t gaf has been met with a lot of “are you for real?” Type of responses. The hit man is a hero not a villain to most of us This wasn’t a hitman. This was divine justice. This was the voice of the people made manifest. This was bringing balance to the force. This was the will of Thanos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 8 Author Share Posted December 8 They found a backpack and more images of the suspect. I read another story that said they found Monopoly money and possibly the gun in Central Park https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-central-park-lake/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter_Rain Posted December 9 Share Posted December 9 It's been pretty rare that I've seen people in this country this united on a topic lol. But that's because essentially every single non-rich person in this country has been impacted in a negative way for our for-profit healthcare system. This shooter is the hero people didn't know they were looking for, the embodiment of all their despair and rage against the system. Because these bigwigs who kill with callousness and greed are still killers all the same. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted December 9 Author Share Posted December 9 They nabbed a person of interest. I hope it’s not the perp. I want the perp to go free. If it is them, may the prosecution never be able to find an unbiased jury https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/person-of-interest-nabbed-in-fatal-shooting-of-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-outside-nyc-hotel/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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