tsar4 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, tsar4 said: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... I don't know who they think they're fooling or how they think telling outrageous lies like this is going to help outsider opinions. Edited October 8, 2022 by Sieg67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share Posted October 8, 2022 Troll, troll, troll your bridge...violently into the sea... 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 8 hours ago, SwimModSponges said: damn, you beat jingo to it 6 hours ago, tsar4 said: Looks more like Mancow Muller. I understood that reference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Huh, didn't know Nabs was moonlighting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 You know who's fault this whole thing is? America. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-blames-us-almost-forcing-putin-invade-ukraine-1750145 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Y'know, hadn't thought about it, but, totally obvious, prolly Putin was counting on Trump winning a second term, and counting on him not supplying any aid to Ukraine when this kicked off.. Yup. Totally America's fault. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I guarantee the reason Putin is doing so badly in this offensive is because he expected Trump/America's support during the campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, SwimModSponges said: I guarantee the reason Putin is doing so badly in this offensive is because he expected Trump/America's support during the campaign. But, like, why would he ever think that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Ukraine blowing up its own bridges, shelling and killing its own people as it has done for the last 8 years... definitely winning~! https://theintercept.com/2022/10/05/russia-ukraine-putin-cia/ Quote There is a much larger presence of both CIA and U.S. special operations personnel and resources in Ukraine than there were at the time of the Russian invasion in February, several current and former intelligence officials told The Intercept. Secret U.S. operations inside Ukraine are being conducted under a presidential covert action finding, current and former officials said. The finding indicates that the president has quietly notified certain congressional leaders about the administration’s decision to conduct a broad program of clandestine operations inside the country. One former special forces officer said that Biden amended a preexisting finding, originally approved during the Obama administration, that was designed to counter malign foreign influence activities. A former CIA officer told The Intercept that Biden’s use of the preexisting finding has frustrated some intelligence officials, who believe that U.S. involvement in the Ukraine conflict differs so much from the spirit of the finding that it should merit a new one. A CIA spokesperson declined to comment about whether there is a presidential covert action finding for operations in Ukraine. CIA, US special forces, NATO operating in Ukraine, keeping our war machine spewing its noxious death and destruction so that our empire can maintain its strategic foothold in {every country on Earth}. What sort of global empire would we be if we let this war go by the wayside, just because of some worry warts fretting about a little nuclear annihilation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) This is fine .jpg As long as some tubby white Americans can say "well, it was Putin's fault, he started it," that makes all of America's subsequent actions that have led us to the brink of nuclear holocaust acceptable. At least we called the people who wanted to end this war as soon as possible "Neville Chamberlain," that's what is truly important here. Edited October 9, 2022 by NewBluntsworth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 "Need help in the United States? Pretend you're in Ukraine" https://rall.com/comic/need-help-in-the-united-states-pretend-youre-in-ukraine Quote When it comes to shipping weapons to countries like Ukraine and Taiwan, money is no object. Billions of dollars are freely flowing. Meanwhile, Americans are lacking for basic needs like running water. In Jackson, Mississippi, there’s still no sign that residents will have clean water anytime soon. Endless money for weapons of war but no money to help the poor. This is what it's like to live in our evil empire that is destroying the entire world. The CIA has never done anything good, this time is not the exception. End American involvement in the war in Ukraine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 "Their own bridge." Can you maybe stop being a disingenuous fuck for ten whole minutes, Nabs? Just as a thought exercise? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Russia built the bridge after the annexation. Ukraine had nothing to do that. Nabs fullblown showing his ass. Like it's incredibly naive to think that this will all end if we just let Russia keep it's territorial gains. That sets a precedent. Why not just take the Baltic states next? There are plenty of Russians there who need rescuing. Edited October 9, 2022 by matrixman124 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Top Gun said: "Their own bridge." 1 hour ago, matrixman124 said: Russia built the bridge after the annexation. Ukraine had nothing to do that. Nabs fullblown showing his ass. Oh I see, so in the case of this particular bridge it's Russia's bridge that connects to Ukraine, not Ukraine's bridge connecting to Russia. How many bridges in Ukraine has the Ukranian side in this war blown up by now? Because it seems like a LOT https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62533670 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62328682 https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-blows-up-kyiv-bridge-try-stop-russia-tanks-2022-2 Etc etc. But yeah, it's good that Ukraine is blowing up all these bridges and bombing all these buildings in Ukraine so that Russians can't use them. All worth it. 2 hours ago, NewBluntsworth said: Ukraine blowing up its own bridges, shelling and killing its own people as it has done for the last 8 years... definitely winning~! It's all on the table, that's what "til the last Ukrainian" means. For the West, it is worth sacrificing everything and everyone in Ukraine in this proxy war to expel Russia from territory it has controlled for years. America is the dominant military superpower empire on planet Earth, not Russia, so therefore America is the one that decides all this that is happening in Ukraine, on Russia's border. Not Russia. America. And it is very important we risk nuclear war to make that stupid evil point. Otherwise what sort of world would this be, where countries can just invade each other with soldiers and weapons and kill people and do war crimes and annex territory for their own use and operate out of them indefinitely and control their resources with impunity??? Hmm, what's that? You're saying that perfectly describes the world we've already been living in all along, with America and its friends and allies doing that literally all the time to other countries as a matter of course...? Well, obviously! That part is right and good and cannot and must not ever be challenged by any other countries! No. Only America must be the great decider. That is what this war is over. And that is the reality what you all are supporting when you cheer on America's primary role in its latest round of war against Russia, this time in Ukraine, whether you know it or not. Whether you like it or not. You are supporting American imperialism. Americans should oppose America's imperialist wars. Yes, every time. Edited October 9, 2022 by NewBluntsworth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilgar Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Why does nabs think that this war is everyone else's fault but not the fault of the people who invaded another country? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 minute ago, stilgar said: Why does nabs think that this war is everyone else's fault but not the fault of the people who invaded another country? Why do American imperialists think repeating the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine somehow absolves them from supporting America's latest imperialist war? The world may never know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 "no no no, I do not support American imperialist wars, I merely oppose America's enemies thst America wages imperialist wars against" Buddy I have got some bad news for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 He is literally completely correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Negotiation? What planet do you live on? It's either Putin gets exactly what he wants or war. Edited October 9, 2022 by Sieg67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sieg67 said: Negotiation? What planet do you live on? Earth? I mean how else do you see this being resolved, in reality here on Earth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said: Earth? I mean how else do you see this being resolved, in reality here on Earth? It has already been made clear that negotiations are not going to work. Putin is not somebody you can negotiate with. They tried. I don't think you fully understand the kind of man he is. Again, either he gets what he wants or there's no deal at all. Edited October 9, 2022 by Sieg67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said: He is literally completely correct. You're agreeing with a guy that wanted to nuke a hurricane, and who knows what else. He's suddenly against them because he's not the one aiming them. Plus you're completely ignoring his admiration of Putin and the finances he has tied up there, it's no wonder he's calling for a "peaceful negotiation," which I'm sure in his mind is an actual compromise and not just giving Putin everything he wants. I know people call you disingenuous a lot, but it's either that or you're the most gullible guy here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Sieg67 said: It has already been made clear that negotiations are not going to work. Putin is not somebody you can negotiate with. They tried. I don't think you fully understand the kind of man he is. Again, either he gets what he wants or there's no deal at all. I don't think this "Putin is a madman who cannot be reasoned with" caricature is accurate or representative of reality, just regime change propaganda. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/09/02/diplomacy-watch-why-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/ ^ Good context on negotiations with Russia over the course of this year. Edited October 9, 2022 by NewBluntsworth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PenguinBoss said: You're agreeing with a guy that wanted to nuke a hurricane, and who knows what else. He's suddenly against them because he's not the one aiming them. Plus you're completely ignoring his admiration of Putin and the finances he has tied up there, it's no wonder he's calling for a "peaceful negotiation," which I'm sure in his mind is an actual compromise and not just giving Putin everything he wants. I know people call you disingenuous a lot, but it's either that or you're the most gullible guy here. All I said was that he is completely correct in that clip, which he is. What does that have to do with the rest of your gobbledygook about his finances and nuking hurricanes? How does that make me gullible? Edited October 9, 2022 by NewBluntsworth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) He already explained it. Trump knows "negotiating" just means Putin getting what he wants. Trump wants this because he's gay for dictators. And what is that website, even? I never heard of it. Edited October 9, 2022 by Sieg67 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sieg67 said: And what is that website, even? I never heard of it. Google is free but https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Institute_for_Responsible_Statecraft https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bacevich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Already did. That really didn't help it's credibility. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said: All I said was that he is completely correct in that clip, which he is. What does that have to do with the rest of your gobbledygook about his finances and nuking hurricanes? How does that make me gullible? Pretending like that's all you posted, huh? There's also the masturbatory comment about "rising to the level of Donald J. Trump," like his words are to be taken at face value and he actually gives a shit about it. He's also spouting about how other people "don't understand the power of nuclear." Like, say, if they suggested nuking a hurricane. And you could've easily said, "He's not coming from an honest place," but you chose not to. So either you purposely left it out (disingenuous) or you didn't include it because you think he's being honest (gullible). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 54 minutes ago, PenguinBoss said: Pretending like that's all you posted, huh? There's also the masturbatory comment about "rising to the level of Donald J. Trump," like his words are to be taken at face value and he actually gives a shit about it. It is clearly worded that way sarcastically, to highlight the ridiculousness of Trump of all people putting out a better public statement in this moment than the progressive Democrats in Congress who keep rubber stamping more billions and weapons for this proxy war. "Rising to the level" of saying what Trump of all people is saying here re: Ukraine is a reasonable request for progressive Democrats, I would think. Trump obviously doesn't know or give a shit about anything, everyone here already knows this. Aaron Mate knows this. Thank you for pointing this out again today, in 2022. 54 minutes ago, PenguinBoss said: He's also spouting about how other people "don't understand the power of nuclear." Like, say, if they suggested nuking a hurricane. Right, he's an idiot, etc etc, why do we have to do this? Again, everyone already knows. I didn't say "no one understands nuclear like trump understands nuclear" or "he would be doing so great as president right now" or whatever you seem to be projecting onto my post. 54 minutes ago, PenguinBoss said: And you could've easily said, "He's not coming from an honest place," but you chose not to. So either you purposely left it out (disingenuous) or you didn't include it because you think he's being honest (gullible). Sigh. So I didn't bother saying the obvious thing that everyone here already knows about the dumbest man in America, which I've said a thousand times before over the years about that chronically dishonest dietcoked out gameshow host cheeseburger clown, which is that he lies a lot, especially to the public for political purposes. Ok, great, thanks for your assessment of me. Did I insult trump enough times to make you happy here? Can we move on now? Anything to add about what he said about, you know, the thread topic? Quote "We must demand the immediate negotiation of a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine or we will end up in World War Three. And there will be nothing left of our planet -- all because stupid people didn't have a clue... They don't understand the power of nuclear." Again, he is completely correct here. Anything to say about that? Anything to add to Aaron Mate's comment about the Democrats in Congress who are rubber-stamping America's imperialist war against Russia while *not* publicly demanding negotiations to end this war as soon as humanly possible? Because they are absolutely in a uniquely powerful position to make that demand, unlike us jackoff internet posters. Quote Would it be too much to ask if, on the world's most dangerous issue, progressive Democrats who have voted for every proxy war bill so far can rise to the level of Donald J. Trump, and also "demand the immediate negotiation of a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine"? So, now that you've policed my failure to reiterate for the umpteenth that Donald Trump is not an honest or smart man... Do you have anything to say about the actual substance of what our former dumbass President said, and about what our "progressive" Democrats are not saying while they repeatedly approve funding for this war? Edited October 9, 2022 by NewBluntsworth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBluntsworth Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 45 minutes ago, Sieg67 said: Already did. That really didn't help it's credibility. Not...sure why but o..kay... Wh-..what about the substance of the article... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said: Sigh. So I didn't bother saying the obvious thing that everyone here already knows about the dumbest man in America, which I've said a thousand times before over the years about that chronically dishonest dietcoked out gameshow host cheeseburger clown, which is that he lies a lot, especially to the public for political purposes. Ok, great, thanks for your assessment of me. Did I insult trump enough times to make you happy here? Can we move on now? Anything to add about what he said about, you know, the thread topic? 24 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said: Again, he is completely correct here. Anything to say about that? 22 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said: It is clearly worded that way sarcastically, to highlight the ridiculousness of Trump of all people putting out a better public statement in this moment than the progressive Democrats in Congress who keep rubber stamping more billions and weapons for this proxy war. "Rising to the level" of saying what Trump of all people is saying here re: Ukraine is a reasonable request for progressive Democrats, I would think. Trump obviously doesn't know or give a shit about anything, everyone here already knows this. Aaron Mate knows this. Thank you for pointing this out again today, in 2022. My issue is that you're pretending like Trump's comment exists in a vacuum. "Trump is totally right here, but I'm purposely leaving out the context of what 'peaceful negotiations' really means to the person saying it." As for the rest, I'm sure this is my naivete speaking, but I'd much rather help Ukraine, and that is how I see it personally, than allow Russia to invade them and set a precedent that it's okay for them to do so as long as they make up some excuse to justify it. If supplying Ukraine to help them fight off an invasion doubles as furthering American imperialism, then call me a imperialist dog or whatever, I don't really care. A peaceful negotiation would be great. It would've been better before Russia decided to annex parts of Ukraine. It also would've been better before they, you know, invaded Ukraine because they felt like it. We've already been over what that would look like. As far as I'm concerned, the only acceptable conditions for Ukraine would end with Russia giving up the territory they annexed, and I don't see Putin ever doing that and looking weak, despite Russia losing more ground by the day, anyway. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I just think it's incredibly stupid to think that Russia won't invade other former Soviet satellites if it gets it's way in Ukraine. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: I just think it's incredibly stupid to think that Russia won't invade other former Soviet satellites if it gets it's way in Ukraine. They already telegraphed that move early in the conflict. Someone in Moscow said they may have to "rescue" Russians living in Romania & Moldova once they gained control of Ukraine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, tsar4 said: They already telegraphed that move early in the conflict. Someone in Moscow said they may have to "rescue" Russians living in Romania & Moldova once they gained control of Ukraine. Obviously a western imperialist mouthpiece - Nabs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, NewBluntsworth said: Not...sure why but o..kay... Wh-..what about the substance of the article... They describe themselves as a think tank so I wouldn't consider them a news source. Their first linked source literally says the following:"Vladimir Putin is determined to shape the future to look like his version of the past. Russia’s president invaded Ukraine not because he felt threatened by NATO expansion or by Western “provocations.” He ordered his “special military operation” because he believes that it is Russia’s divine right to rule Ukraine, to wipe out the country’s national identity, and to integrate its people into a Greater Russia." Oh would you look at that. The source contradicts your NATO claims from before. The rest is behind a sub wall. I don't know if it's behind the sub wall but I don't see mention of an agreement here. Another source they provided was a twitter post which lead to this other source.https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2022/05/5/7344096/ It says that during the talks, Russia only expected Ukraine to surrender. Wow, much negotiations. Edited October 9, 2022 by Sieg67 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 Putin is making sense, if he were a WWE heel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Gun Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Quote On Saturday, President Volodymyr Zelensky acknowledged the incident in his nightly address, saying: "Today was not a bad day and mostly sunny on our state's territory." "Unfortunately, it was cloudy in Crimea. Although it was also warm," he added. Straight fire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 10, 2022 Author Share Posted October 10, 2022 https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20221008_10/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 You ever really regret life choices? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Did republicans thirst for Putin’s taint this hard before the orange man was in the White House? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Nothing indicates that you are a military impotent more than chaotic shelling of children's playgrounds as a response to a non-stop series of military defeats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Companies still operating, temporarily operating or vamoosed from Russia. Hmmm, Carl's Jr & Sbarro? I thought chemical warfare was banned by the Geneva Convention? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimModSponges Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Good news nabs. https://www.newsweek.com/american-states-that-wish-join-russia-will-considered-says-duma-member-1750336 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 hours ago, tsar4 said: Companies still operating, temporarily operating or vamoosed from Russia. Hmmm, Carl's Jr & Sbarro? I thought chemical warfare was banned by the Geneva Convention? There's a joke to be made about Patreon being on that list but unfortunately I am not smart enough to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Seight said: There's a joke to be made about Patreon being on that list but unfortunately I am not smart enough to make it. Something something porn something something Putin something kink something 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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scoobdog Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: Lol. Not sure what's worse: Elon being sympathetic to a tyrant or Elon being even worse at mediating than Donald Trump. Kidding... either option is hilarious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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