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57 minutes ago, Sawdy said:

Bocci Balls!!! She looks terrible…. Even more so than before

Well, she’s gotta be hitting 40 by now and I imagine any work she’s had done is almost 20 and reaching its limits of usefulness. Still it’s pretty funny to get trolled by her. 

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The only reason that the GOP isnt going to win easily in PA and GA is because they nominated two uniquely bad candidates. I still think that GA flips to the GOP, but PA probably doesnt. Dr oz is just so cringe worthy bad that he probably tanks what should be an easy win in a national climate like this.

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On 7/19/2022 at 10:01 AM, Master-Debater131 said:

The only reason that the GOP isnt going to win easily in PA and GA is because they nominated two uniquely bad candidates. I still think that GA flips to the GOP, but PA probably doesnt. Dr oz is just so cringe worthy bad that he probably tanks what should be an easy win in a national climate like this.

Herschel Walker is objectively worse that Dr. Oz.

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9 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

But he has a lot more local popularity.  Dr Oz is basically a carpetbagger from NJ trying to win in Penn. Walker at least has deep ties to GA

I get your point, but Walker is so mentally damaged he doesn't really have the ability to adapt his campaign like Oz might.  Those gaffes don't just go away on their own and  PR crew can only do so much when the candidate himself isn't particularly capable.

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Time again for STORYTIME WITH @Seight!

For some reason today we sent out two sets of mailings for these people running for the [a corn state I'm not in] Board of Education (I guess) and their talking point was "We want you, the parents, to be in control by making sharing of student data an opt-in, not mandatory."

And there were enough GOP elephants and "Conservative" on it for me to think

Spoiler

"lol no, you just don't want the white kids to know that they did bad things to non-whites"

 

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13 hours ago, scoobdog said:

I get your point, but Walker is so mentally damaged he doesn't really have the ability to adapt his campaign like Oz might.  Those gaffes don't just go away on their own and  PR crew can only do so much when the candidate himself isn't particularly capable.

Normally that might matter, but I dont think it will. Even with his health problems Fetterman is a stronger candidate than Warnock. The only reason Warnock won in the first place is because Trump imploded the GOP in 2020 after he lost. GA is still a red state, and thats going to show.  Walker also has the advantage of Kemp looking to cruise to a victory over Abrams, and Biden being historically unpopular. Those two things will likely drag Walker over the finish line.

Oz doesnt have a popular GOP nominee for the Gov to help pull him along. If anything, that GOP nom is the most dangerous in the nation. His views are completely wacko and dont belong anywhere near government. While Bidens unpopularity will help, the fact that two deeply unpopular candidates are running for the GOP at the same time will hurt them both.

I still think that GA flips solidly Red while PA flips Blue, and even that might change if Bidens popularity crashes anymore than it already has.

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30 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

 

 

 

Oooooooh shit.  Biden is in a high-risk category, so this isnt really ideal.

He’s fine vaxxed and double boosted and he started treatment.  he’s only experiencing a slight cough and fatigue. 
It’s NOT a big deal in terms of his death being imminent. It’s a big deal because everyone is acting like Covid19 is over when clearly it is not. 

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8 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

He’s fine vaxxed and double boosted and he started treatment.  he’s only experiencing a slight cough and fatigue. 
It’s NOT a big deal in terms of his death being imminent. It’s a big deal because everyone is acting like Covid19 is over when clearly it is not. 

He's probably fine, but no guarantee.  He is absolutely in the high risk category. Having been boosted will greatly improve his odds of surviving, but its no guarantee.

 

Covid isnt going anywhere. Its endemic at this point. With vaccines and treatments the danger of covid is greatly reduced, but not gone. NYT this morning had an article saying that we will probably have between 100,000 and 300,000 deaths a year for the foreseeable future. Thats a pretty damn high number.

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Schumer's legal weed bill is finally here

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/21/schumer-legal-weed-bill-00047058

"The legislation includes both Democratic and Republican priorities: It expunges federal cannabis-related records and creates funding for law enforcement departments to fight illegal cannabis cultivation. It also establishes grant programs for small business owners entering the industry who are from communities disproportionately hurt by past drug laws, requires the Department of Transportation to research and develop a nationwide standard for marijuana-impaired driving, and restricts the marketing of cannabis to minors."

 

 

Seems like a good bill to me.  It lets States decide if they want it to be legal or not, expunges records of MJ convictions, and provides funding to track down illegal grows as well as research a way to test if you are high or not.


Sadly this wont pass because of something *coughbigpharmacough* *coughciacough* but its really only a matter of time before this passes.  Public opinion is just so heavily pro-legalize at this point that nothings going to stop it forever.

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https://apnews.com/article/china-nancy-pelosi-taiwan-government-and-politics-30bb4a00c7fd0e41c16b6791da6ad4a0

US military making plans in case Pelosi travels to Taiwan

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SYDNEY (AP) — Nancy Pelosi hasn’t said if she’s going to Taiwan, but if she does she’d be entering one of the world’s hottest and most contentious spots. While U.S. officials say they have little fear that Beijing would attack the U.S. House speaker’s plane, they are aware that a mishap, misstep or misunderstanding could endanger her safety. So the Pentagon is developing plans for any contingency.

Officials told The Associated Press that if Pelosi goes to Taiwan — still an uncertainty — the military would increase its movement of forces and assets in the Indo-Pacific region. They declined to provide details, but said that fighter jets, ships, surveillance assets and other military systems would likely be used to provide overlapping rings of protection for her flight to Taiwan and any time on the ground there.

Any foreign travel by a senior U.S. leader requires additional security. But officials said this week that a visit to Taiwan by Pelosi — she would be the highest-ranking U.S. elected official to visit Taiwan since 1997 — would go beyond the usual safety precautions for trips to less risky destinations."

 

You wont hear me say this pretty much ever, but good on her. Pelosi absolutely should go to Taiwan. Fuck China. They dont get to tell us how we interact with our allies. They can claim Taiwan all they want, but it isnt part of China. It hasnt been in decades and is very clearly a self governing democracy. After Russia decided to YOLO it into Ukraine its absolutely imperative that we send clear messages to China about Taiwan. We cant, and hopefully wont, let them roll into the island and stomp out freedom like they did in Hong Kong.  For all the talk about Russia being bad and dangerous, China is easily the biggest threat of our time. We need to start acting like its the threat it is.

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27 minutes ago, Master-Debater131 said:

https://apnews.com/article/china-nancy-pelosi-taiwan-government-and-politics-30bb4a00c7fd0e41c16b6791da6ad4a0

US military making plans in case Pelosi travels to Taiwan

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SYDNEY (AP) — Nancy Pelosi hasn’t said if she’s going to Taiwan, but if she does she’d be entering one of the world’s hottest and most contentious spots. While U.S. officials say they have little fear that Beijing would attack the U.S. House speaker’s plane, they are aware that a mishap, misstep or misunderstanding could endanger her safety. So the Pentagon is developing plans for any contingency.

Officials told The Associated Press that if Pelosi goes to Taiwan — still an uncertainty — the military would increase its movement of forces and assets in the Indo-Pacific region. They declined to provide details, but said that fighter jets, ships, surveillance assets and other military systems would likely be used to provide overlapping rings of protection for her flight to Taiwan and any time on the ground there.

Any foreign travel by a senior U.S. leader requires additional security. But officials said this week that a visit to Taiwan by Pelosi — she would be the highest-ranking U.S. elected official to visit Taiwan since 1997 — would go beyond the usual safety precautions for trips to less risky destinations."

 

You wont hear me say this pretty much ever, but good on her. Pelosi absolutely should go to Taiwan. Fuck China. They dont get to tell us how we interact with our allies. They can claim Taiwan all they want, but it isnt part of China. It hasnt been in decades and is very clearly a self governing democracy. After Russia decided to YOLO it into Ukraine its absolutely imperative that we send clear messages to China about Taiwan. We cant, and hopefully wont, let them roll into the island and stomp out freedom like they did in Hong Kong.  For all the talk about Russia being bad and dangerous, China is easily the biggest threat of our time. We need to start acting like its the threat it is.

How can you say “good for her China doesn’t get to say how we deal with Taiwan” when the US official position is that Taiwan is whatever China says it is?  It’s been our policy for at least 50 years. 
https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-us-one-china-policy-and-why-does-it-matter

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4 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m just sayin the US at any time could have acknowledge Taiwan as an independent nation separate from China but we refused to do that. 

I get what you are saying, but the whole "strategic ambiguity" thing has been our playbook since for decades. The One China policy truly exists only on paper. When it comes to actual relations, trade, and military dealings they are two very separate countries.

 

While we officially recognize only One China with Beijing being the capital, we have extensive dealings and relations with Taiwan. We have sold them tons of military assets, and train their military leaders, in a way that we never would with the mainland.


The biggest reason we dont support an official independence is because it would guarantee a war and even Taiwan doesnt want to go that far. There is a growing movement within Taiwan to declare independence, but even their government officials wont do it because they know it means war.

 

I fully expect China to declare war and try and take Taiwan by force at some point. We can do what we can to not be the reason they do it, but nothings going to stop their desire to completely take over Taiwan and stomp out its democracy and freedoms.

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10 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

How can you say “good for her China doesn’t get to say how we deal with Taiwan” when the US official position is that Taiwan is whatever China says it is?  It’s been our policy for at least 50 years. 
https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-us-one-china-policy-and-why-does-it-matter

The imperialism grained into Americans' minds is a mental illness that drives them to cheerlead our global war machine's constant mass murder anywhere on the planet. 

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I get what you are saying, but the whole "strategic ambiguity" thing has been our playbook since for decades. The One China policy truly exists only on paper. When it comes to actual relations, trade, and military dealings they are two very separate countries.

 

While we officially recognize only One China with Beijing being the capital, we have extensive dealings and relations with Taiwan. We have sold them tons of military assets, and train their military leaders, in a way that we never would with the mainland.


The biggest reason we dont support an official independence is because it would guarantee a war and even Taiwan doesnt want to go that far. There is a growing movement within Taiwan to declare independence, but even their government officials wont do it because they know it means war.

 

I fully expect China to declare war and try and take Taiwan by force at some point. We can do what we can to not be the reason they do it, but nothings going to stop their desire to completely take over Taiwan and stomp out its democracy and freedoms.

"The American empire going to war with China over Taiwan is a war against imperialism that we should all support!"

Deranged 🤡

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5 minutes ago, Insipid said:

I'm sure Pelosi wanting to visit Taiwan has nothing to do with this:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/nancy-pelosis-husband-sells-4-million-worth-of-nvidia-stock-at-a-major-loss-11658943396

The CEO of Nvidia is Taiwanese.

 

The most widely hated and visibly corrupt people in America and the Dems make them their party figureheads for twenty years and marshal the full waste of the American military to solidify their open corruption, hmm how does this work

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No one is buying “America must defend democracy” anymore. Not with all the lovers of fascism in our own government. 
I don’t think that the US recognizing Taiwan as independent from China would have led to war. Not 50 years ago.  Now, who knows. The entire world has gone war hungry 

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2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said:

How can you say “good for her China doesn’t get to say how we deal with Taiwan” when the US official position is that Taiwan is whatever China says it is?  It’s been our policy for at least 50 years. 
https://www.csis.org/analysis/what-us-one-china-policy-and-why-does-it-matter

I would say that policy has been a mistake for all 50 of those years, especially since the CCP had never particularly made overtures of reconciliation with the DCP.  Not that we necessarily ever needed to acknowledge Taiwan as an independent country, just not acknowledge One China.  These little errors always tend to become huge when you're dealing with an autocracy.

 

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57 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

I would say that policy has been a mistake for all 50 of those years, especially since the CCP had never particularly made overtures of reconciliation with the DCP.  Not that we necessarily ever needed to acknowledge Taiwan as an independent country, just not acknowledge One China.  These little errors always tend to become huge when you're dealing with an autocracy.

 

"Blah blah blah, the US military rules supreme so tubby rich white guys in America should always get to dictate everything that happens on every piece of land on the entire planet on penalty of war"

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19 minutes ago, NewBluntsworth said:

"Blah blah blah, the US military rules supreme so tubby rich white guys in America should always get to dictate everything that happens on every piece of land on the entire planet on penalty of war"

By no means.  In fact, we would have likely had less of an opportunity to insert ourslelves in the China Taiwan dispute by being more neutral instead of playing both sides.  It really derives from, as you would say, the U.S. acting like a king maker while dealing with another king maker when cozying up to China. 

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GDP shrank 0.9% last quarter, officially showing us in a recession.

 

This is the biggest reason why I continue to be so bullish on the GOPs chances this fall even though they have nominated some truly awful candidates. The Economy is the #1 issue for voters by a wide margin, and it doesnt look like things will improve anytime soon. If the economy sucks in November, then it doesnt matter how bad the GOP candidates are, they will win.

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So, in the midst of former Vice-President Biden trying to redefine recession, turns out he had time to order the USPS to create a new "election security division" to handle mail-in ballots.

Just in time for Monkey Ba.7 Pox election fortifications....

 

 

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