Do You think streaming services are a suitable replacement for physical home releases?

[CountFrylock]

I Don't....there are too many of them as it stands and subscribing just to watch one show and add on another bill to pay isn't a fun idea

especially since streaming services have the habit of rotating shows in and out....or outright removing them for one reason or another

once upon a time streaming was seen as the better alternative to cable...now it's becoming just as bad if not worse due to every company wanting a streaming service

and everyone's favorite shows being split off into different services they have to pay monthly for

[Seight]

17 minutes ago, CountFrylock said:

I Don't....there are too many of them as it stands and subscribing just to watch one show and add on another bill to pay isn't a fun idea

especially since streaming services have the habit of rotating shows in and out....or outright removing them for one reason or another

once upon a time streaming was seen as the better alternative to cable...now it's becoming just as bad if not worse due to every company wanting a streaming service

and everyone's favorite shows being split off into different services they have to pay monthly for

I entered the thread SPECIFICALLY to say "no, because your show could be removed or bought by a different streaming service"

[CountFrylock]

2 minutes ago, Seight said:

I entered the thread SPECIFICALLY to say "no, because your show could be removed or bought by a different streaming service"

like what happened with tuca and bertie  netflix canned it and now they are hoarding the rights for season 1

which adult swim cannot touch at all even though they are the ones that rescued the series and netflix couldn't care less about it anymore

they still wanna hoard that first season

[//>wagz./]

//> it's all not even worth it anymore just watch reviews of shows and movies ./

[Real_AirCooledGirl]

No. Streaming companies can give or take away content on a whim that way. Why should we consumers have to put up with that? I'd rather have anime, movies, etc. on physical media that I can display on my shelves. Having it streamed isn't the same. A critical piece of the experience is lost that way.

[cyberbully]

I feel like you're comparing apples and oranges here. 

If we're talking steaming services, they aren't here to replace physical media, they are here to replace shit like cable and satellite.....

The question concerning physical media would come from is owning a digital copy better.

*Restraining*

[CountFrylock]

22 minutes ago, cyberbully said:

I feel like you're comparing apples and oranges here. 

If we're talking steaming services, they aren't here to replace physical media, they are here to replace shit like cable and satellite.....

The question concerning physical media would come from is owning a digital copy better.

*Restraining*

and yet Most Streaming Service Shows seem to have a difficult time being released on blu-ray....if they are It'll take a god awful amount of time

the chances of the Marvel Disney Plus Shows being released on Home Video....seems close to zero

I Like Aggretsuko but no way netflix is releasing that on blu-ray

Edited August 9, 2021 by CountFrylock

[scoobdog]

I kind of thought the intent, early on, was for services like Apple Plus, CBSN, and HBO Max to be a direct replacement for ownership of individual titles. But that never materialized.

[scoobdog]

2 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

and yet Most Streaming Service Shows seem to have a difficult time being released on blu-ray....if they are It'll take a god awful amount of time

the chances of the Marvel Disney Plus Shows being released on Home Video....seems close to zero

I Like Aggretsuko but no way netflix is releasing that on blu-ray

Or, they weren't popular enough to warrant a release?

 

[Ric]

3 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

and yet Most Streaming Service Shows seem to have a difficult time being released on blu-ray....if they are It'll take a god awful amount of time

the chances of the Marvel Disney Plus Shows being released on Home Video....seems close to zero

I Like Aggretsuko but no way netflix is releasing that on blu-ray

That has often been the case with TV shows though. Many never made it to VHS/DVD/etc pre-Netflix, or come out 10 years later with the music butchered because no one thought it was worth paying for the rights again.

[CountFrylock]

2 hours ago, Ric said:

That has often been the case with TV shows though. Many never made it to VHS/DVD/etc pre-Netflix, or come out 10 years later with the music butchered because no one thought it was worth paying for the rights again.

it just seems like now even the popular stuff takes it's sweet time coming out if it's a streaming service series

 

3 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Or, they weren't popular enough to warrant a release?

 

Disney's Stuff is clearly Popular enough to warrant a release but they probably don't see any need for that when they are doing just fine on disney plus

 

[scoobdog]

Disney will always release stuff, regardless if it's on Disney Plus or not.  They were one of it not the first to have an organized home video market.and that particular market isn't likely to disappear.

[CountFrylock]

58 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Disney will always release stuff, regardless if it's on Disney Plus or not.  They were one of it not the first to have an organized home video market.and that particular market isn't likely to disappear.

they haven't really shown any desire to wanna release stuff like wandavision or loki on blu-ray anytime soon

https://www.cbr.com/disney-no-current-plans-release-marvel-shows-dvd-blu-ray/

[scoobdog]

They will eventually.  There's no reason to do it straightaway when they can hold off and reissue when the shows are older.

[stilgar]

Just pirate it. 

[CountFrylock]

2 hours ago, stilgar said:

Just pirate it. 

complete with all the sketchy virus's

 

[André Toulon]

4 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

they haven't really shown any desire to wanna release stuff like wandavision or loki on blu-ray anytime soon

https://www.cbr.com/disney-no-current-plans-release-marvel-shows-dvd-blu-ray/

You do know those shows are exclusives because that's how they are promoting the service.....You can't get mad when it's entire intent was to be an exclusive for the service.....if you want a physical copy of that, then take stilgars advice.

[CountFrylock]

1 hour ago, André Toulon said:

You do know those shows are exclusives because that's how they are promoting the service.....You can't get mad when it's entire intent was to be an exclusive for the service.....if you want a physical copy of that, then take stilgars advice.

Yes I Know that but with standard television becoming less and less relevant...that's gonna be the norm for all shows and movies

The TV Networks are already seen as quite outdated so i see less variety in the line up's and fewer new shows as a result(Most New Ones hitting streaming services instead)

Physical Movies/TV Shows are just for the really nerdy collectors these days

so i can see fewer and fewer of them being made only leaving the ones for  series people will pay good money for

leaving the option for everyone else to go down the pirate route or subscribe to numerous streaming services

at which point the culling will begin because i can't see the industry sustaining so many streaming services at once without several folding and calling it quits

Edited August 9, 2021 by CountFrylock

[Ric]

10 hours ago, CountFrylock said:

it just seems like now even the popular stuff takes it's sweet time coming out if it's a streaming service series

True but many of those shows wouldn't exist at all if not for those streaming services.

I do suppose there is probably a lot of anime you could buy on bluray in NA if Netflix didn't throw money at it for exclusive rights though.

[GuyBeardmane]

With the release of Eva 3.0 + 1.0, I have strong opinions on this now.  I can't stand Amazon, but I had to sign up for an Amazon Prime trial to watch the movie.  When my trial expires, I will no longer be able to see the movie.  I would love to have a bluray copy so I can put it on my shelf next to Evas 1.11, 2.22, and 3.33, but I have a strong suspicion that Amazon will not allow the movie to be released on physical media.

It's shit.

[BlackNoir]

So what im getting here is the people who make fun of the alleged "boomers" are upset they can't collect piles and piles of physical media because progess is ruining the world.

Edited August 15, 2021 by BlackNoir

[GuyBeardmane]

5 minutes ago, BlackNoir said:

So what im getting here is the people who make fun of the alleged "boomers" are upset they can't collect piles and piles of physical media because progess is ruining the world.

Quite a leap you're takin' there, but you do you.

[André Toulon]

15 minutes ago, GuyBeardmane said:

Quite a leap you're takin' there, but you do you.

I always do. Enjoy taking up space with physical media....no skin off my dick

[scoobdog]

5 hours ago, BlackNoir said:

So what im getting here is the people who make fun of the alleged "boomers" are upset they can't collect piles and piles of physical media because progess is ruining the world.

Hey, I get it.  I mean, I can’t run my Plex server without physical DVDs and Blu Rays to Handbrake.

[Real_AirCooledGirl]

17 hours ago, BlackNoir said:

So what im getting here is the people who make fun of the alleged "boomers" are upset they can't collect piles and piles of physical media because progess is ruining the world.

It's not just TV and movies that are badly affected by streaming without physical releases. Video games, too. I have consoles from the Genesis/32X to the original Wii. I'm also a PC gamer. Digital releases are not the same as having physical discs and cartridges that you can display on your shelf. And what happens if the servers for Steam, Origin, PSN, etc. go down for good? What happens to your games? How would you play them without physical media to store them on? There's a reason why I won't buy a new PC unless it has an optical drive. I have older games that came on CDs and DVDs and would like to be able to install and play them.

[André Toulon]

2 hours ago, Real_AirCooledGirl said:

It's not just TV and movies that are badly affected by streaming without physical releases. Video games, too. I have consoles from the Genesis/32X to the original Wii. I'm also a PC gamer. Digital releases are not the same as having physical discs and cartridges that you can display on your shelf. And what happens if the servers for Steam, Origin, PSN, etc. go down for good? What happens to your games? How would you play them without physical media to store them on? There's a reason why I won't buy a new PC unless it has an optical drive. I have older games that came on CDs and DVDs and would like to be able to install and play them.

I sold a rare copy of little Samson for 1000 bucks because fuck physical media

[Real_AirCooledGirl]

Just now, André Toulon said:

I sold a rare copy of little Samson for 1000 bucks because fuck physical media

The only time I sell physical media of anything is if I upgrade movies and anime from DVD to Blu-ray. I did that when I upgraded Marmalade Boy, Patlabor, Gungrave, Black Lagoon, Chobits, Shakugan No Shana, and some others, and that was a couple years ago. Marmalade Boy, in particular, was one show I hoped to get some money from. On one hand, three of the box sets (there were no singles in the Tokyopop release) had remainder scratches on the barcodes. On the other hand, all four sets had cels that, put together, show a scene from the show (I won't spoil it here if you haven't watched). The Patlabor DVDs were Central Park Media's old sets and I upgraded to a Blu-ray box set that had the movies, OVAs, and TV series. I didn't expect the guy at the flea market to make it rain, but I did want to get all the money I could. I then used the trade-in value to buy some Genesis, PS1, Super NES, and Saturn games.

[PhilosipherStoned]

Physical home releases? (Oh I guess you mean just straight to dvd or dvd etc adaptions)... Anyway I've been diggin amazon video a bit. I'm pretty sure I read something about The Boys going to HBO max for season 3 months ago, and who knows how long it'll take Incredible to release season 2. They advertise both of these still like it's their top money makers and you need to subscribe for more..

but as a fan of horror they linked me to Shudder.. which I'm probably being charged for seperately or I'm gonna be at some point.. Still I found a lot of new horror flics there I digged whether they were low budget or just poorly advertised I can't lump any of the movies I found there in with the b/c movie barrage Tubi would give me.. 

Edited August 15, 2021 by PhilosipherStoned

[Distortedreasoning]

i like my physical media when it comes to gaming. 

the internet isnt always up and running and servers go down sometimes. and not every game is available. that is unless you pirate.

i still find the simplicity of plug and play device very appealing in this day and age.

tho there are some negatives like cost and space. especially cost, it's getting ridiculous and out of reach. 

 

 

 

[brian_boru]

Look, if corporations didn't want people to pirate their media they wouldn't charge so much for it.

[Real_AirCooledGirl]

17 hours ago, Distortedreasoning said:

i like my physical media when it comes to gaming. 

the internet isnt always up and running and servers go down sometimes. and not every game is available. that is unless you pirate.

i still find the simplicity of plug and play device very appealing in this day and age.

tho there are some negatives like cost and space. especially cost, it's getting ridiculous and out of reach. 

 

 

 

[Dark_Cloud_Overhead]

I've yet to subscribe to a single streaming service. The idea of paying for anything atop of my cable bill is just... no. Dumping cable just to have to subscribe to a bunch of different services is also a no for me. It is frustrating though, as a lot of shows I'd like to see are exclusively on some of the streaming services, but I figure if they're any good they'll get a home video release, and I'll eventually be able to check them out from my library for free. There's just so much stuff that's available for free that I could pick up from there anytime, there's really no reason that I see to pay extra just to watch something right away.

[Real_AirCooledGirl]

I subscribed to Crunchyroll once upon a time, but it was only so I could watch anime without ads polluting it. Watched a fair chunk of anime that way. If something particularly catches my eye, I prefer buying that in physical form, ideally on Blu-ray. I've since cancelled my subscription because life happened.