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3 hours ago, Gyaos said:

Not gonna' lie...this makes me sad as hell. I have several of his albums and knowing what he said kinda' takes away from it all.

Same. Guy is a great guitarist and can be very funny. However if that's who he really is and not a character I think he lost a great many fans. I was hoping since he's so committed to being in character he just wanted to rip on dolly parton and got carried away, but based on the screen grabs someone posted on the other page it seems like it was him speaking, considering his apology is blaming others.

 

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10 hours ago, Poof said:

Damn it's less funny to know Early Cuyler was just him being himself. I always figured he had to be pretty enlightened IRL to parody his redneck heritage that hard. Guess not. Welp you hate to see it. 

Yeah he's known for staying in character away from the stage so I was hoping it was him just not liking Dolly(which he does not) and being like okay why not slip into the ol Unknown Hinson character and give her shit. Then he got a little too drunk or flustered by some of the responses and lost his cool. I'm not saying any of it is funny, just as a long time fan of the guy I could of almost gave him the benefit of the doubt, but sadly it does seem Early and Unkown are a bit closer to the heart and less characters than I had thought.

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2 hours ago, Killa Ounze said:

Yeah he's known for staying in character away from the stage so I was hoping it was him just not liking Dolly(which he does not) and being like okay why not slip into the ol Unknown Hinson character and give her shit. Then he got a little too drunk or flustered by some of the responses and lost his cool. I'm not saying any of it is funny, just as a long time fan of the guy I could of almost gave him the benefit of the doubt, but sadly it does seem Early and Unkown are a bit closer to the heart and less characters than I had thought.

Thats some like Trump level latitude to give someone.... even if all that happened, he'd be a giant piece of shit.... im sure you agree, there is no place for trying to put down BLM in any capacity,  and those who support.

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2 minutes ago, Sawdamizer said:

Thats some like Trump level latitude to give someone.... even if all that happened, he'd be a giant piece of shit.... im sure you agree, there is no place for trying to put down BLM in any capacity,  and those who support.

I do agree. The more I see the more it does seem like a short mind person reveling in their ignorance.

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19 hours ago, RainyDayJizz#35 said:

This is part of why I don't look at celebrity news, I don't care about their lives. They pretend to be other things.

The only reason I defend Louis CK is because I inadvertently found out a lot about his life during the period of those incidents. His wife wasn't touching him, enough that it bled into his comedy, and he really loved her and I can see the rationale in his dumb head of "well if I'm just jerking off in front of her I'm not cheating." Lots of guys cheat at work, and the work environment of a comedian and comedy writer is extremely informal. I doubt he thought of his position when he did it, I think he just wanted to cum in front of a woman without cheating or getting caught.

I'm sorry, but as a 37 year old virgin who's never masturbated in front of anyone or ever groped anyone I can't help but laugh and roll my eyes at the "well what do you expect, his wife wouldn't touch him!" excuse for defending sexual harassment / assault.

If you're getting blue balls just jack off alone in your bedroom like anybody with goddamn sense and empathy. Womankind doesn't owe you any orgasm, regardless of how long it's been.

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3 hours ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

I'm sorry, but as a 37 year old virgin who's never masturbated in front of anyone or ever groped anyone I can't help but laugh and roll my eyes at the "well what do you expect, his wife wouldn't touch him!" excuse for defending sexual harassment / assault.

If you're getting blue balls just jack off alone in your bedroom like anybody with goddamn sense and empathy. Womankind doesn't owe you any orgasm, regardless of how long it's been.

Uhhh, I kinda think what he did wasn't  harassment or assault, just a guy trying to do things with his penis while away from his wife. He never surprised anyone with it, the only surprise was when he actually did what he said, which is an assumption made about him. He's just a funny guy he won't pull his dick out. 

On one of the comedy shows he worked on he had to take his wife's calls in a different room because when she called and heard everyone laughing the rest of his day was ruined. And as a 37 year old virgin i don't expect you to understand having an expectation of attraction from your partner. Why am I begging for sex from someone that loves me all of a sudden? I thought they were just as attracted to me as I am to them?

People stupidly stay in bad relationships for a number of reasons. I'm not gonna say harassment is okay, I'm just saying I think Louis didn't realize some of the situations were harassing, and it's been so long since all this happened it might just be the one, and you can find that woman and listen to her be crazy if you want. I think besides her two women were in his hotel room, who he invited up from the bar like, "I'm going up to my room to jerk off if you wanna join me." 

And I think I saw Sarah Silverman recently say Louis did the same thing with her, and they're still friends. Not really defending a concept, just a guy that made mistakes at his job. Maybe when a comedian says he's gonna pull his dick out don't act shocked when he does, especially when I heard Tracey Morgan would do it on stage and tell women he wants to get them pregnant. And they let him on stage again the next night and the room fills up again because people thought it was hilarious.

I have heard horror stories of harassment, what Louis did just seems like a kind of awkward dude trying to do things with his penis at work. And I don't want some awkward guy getting fired because he thinks the new woman is cute and wants to try something somewhere down the line. Maybe not take his dick out, but if he asks and she says okay why am I supposed to be mad? 

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I am not surprised in the least that Dolly Parton would be for BLM and say so. She grew up dirt poor and has never shied away from that. Her 'people' aren't just the so-called redneck hillbillies, they are everyone who has ever been frickin' poor. She has always been for helping anyone who needs help. If any of those redneck hillbillies have a problem with that, hard cheese. She'd help you since she's in a position to do so regardless of skin tone and she'd expect that you would do the same for your neighbor if they needed help and you were in a position to do so. 

It's very disheartening that there is apparently no break between Stuart Baker and his persona Unknown Hinson. Dolly Parton didn't get him fired, he got himself fired for being a massive cocknozzle about things for what? publicity? He's got nothing going on and nothing super in the works [ unless he was able to refile, he's not on the ballots at this time. Last I heard, he had withdrawn ages ago ] to get his name out there for better or worse. This was basically a suicide letter via twitter. 

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22 hours ago, RainyDayJizz#35 said:

Uhhh, I kinda think what he did wasn't  harassment or assault, just a guy trying to do things with his penis while away from his wife. He never surprised anyone with it, the only surprise was when he actually did what he said, which is an assumption made about him. He's just a funny guy he won't pull his dick out. 

On one of the comedy shows he worked on he had to take his wife's calls in a different room because when she called and heard everyone laughing the rest of his day was ruined. And as a 37 year old virgin i don't expect you to understand having an expectation of attraction from your partner. Why am I begging for sex from someone that loves me all of a sudden? I thought they were just as attracted to me as I am to them?

People stupidly stay in bad relationships for a number of reasons. I'm not gonna say harassment is okay, I'm just saying I think Louis didn't realize some of the situations were harassing, and it's been so long since all this happened it might just be the one, and you can find that woman and listen to her be crazy if you want. I think besides her two women were in his hotel room, who he invited up from the bar like, "I'm going up to my room to jerk off if you wanna join me." 

And I think I saw Sarah Silverman recently say Louis did the same thing with her, and they're still friends. Not really defending a concept, just a guy that made mistakes at his job. Maybe when a comedian says he's gonna pull his dick out don't act shocked when he does, especially when I heard Tracey Morgan would do it on stage and tell women he wants to get them pregnant. And they let him on stage again the next night and the room fills up again because people thought it was hilarious.

I have heard horror stories of harassment, what Louis did just seems like a kind of awkward dude trying to do things with his penis at work. And I don't want some awkward guy getting fired because he thinks the new woman is cute and wants to try something somewhere down the line. Maybe not take his dick out, but if he asks and she says okay why am I supposed to be mad? 

Dude, this is so completely stupid. If I, or literally anyone in this entire country who is not either rich or famous, said to any women IN THE WORK PLACE, something along the lines of "wanna see me pull my dick out and jack off?" they'd be canned on the spot. Tons of people are in unhappy relationships, but tons of people don't ask women they're not involved with if they wanna see them pull their dick out and jack off. Your explanation is literally "it's easier to be a creeper than to break off an unhealthy relationship, so why fault him?" This is not how most people's lives work. They may stew unhappily, they may cheat (with a partner they didn't have to sexually harass to sleep with), they may put up a dating profile online, they may break off the relationship, they may give their partner an ultimatum, they may resort to porn..... There are so many healthier options (not necessarily healthy, but definitely healthiER) that normal people actually do in this kind of situation than what Louis did. If you feel like your wife is treating you like shit and making you feel like shit, don't take it out on other women who have no involvement. 

And don't use "he's an awkward dude" to defend this. You think I'm not completely awkward? I'm probably more awkward than he is. He's willing to spill his life story to anonymous crowds for a living.

You are completely bending over backwards defending horrible behavior for the lone reason you are a fan of his work. I'm not saying you should stop being a fan of his, but what he did was wrong and he earned his consequences. 

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2 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

And don't use "he's an awkward dude" to defend this. You think I'm not completely awkward? I'm probably more awkward than he is. He's willing to spill his life story to anonymous crowds for a living.

You are completely bending over backwards defending horrible behavior for the lone reason you are a fan of his work. I'm not saying you should stop being a fan of his, but what he did was wrong and he earned his consequences. 

The point of him being awkward is that it is not a typical thing guys do with women. It happening at work is incidental at me, cause people fuck at work all the time. One guy told me about an old manager he had who loved fucking guys in her office because it was surrounded by one way mirrors. I believe Louis' apology and I doubt it was a random incident, he probably talked to her some before saying "wanna see my dick?" Sarah Silverman just went oh hell yeah I'll watch you jerk off. 

This woman Rebecca Corry is the only person I'm aware of maintaining this crusade of Louis can't work and it's ridiculous to me. She came out in secret saying she was told she shouldn't come forward because it would ruin her career. Later on when I happened upon her name, I was like what career. Then I heard her on Maron's podcast and she's nuts. If I remember right by the end Maron is just like, "well, uhhhh, bye." 

Two things about her that stuck out to me, she was a custodian for delta and met a British guy. Little fling, he gives her an earring and says he'll come back for it. Six months later she's at his job, I think he was a hotel busboy, giving the earring back and yelling at him cause she gets free flights on delta. I think that turned into a little relationship.

Then she's married to this other guy and has suspicions he's gay, finds what looks like a gay porn he's in and shuts it off right before anything happens. Just watched her husband making out with a guy which is crazy to me. Why not watch it, why not have it playing when he walks in. Anyway, she came off as legitimately kinda nuts to me.

So between the character of these people and the stories around it, as well as stories Louis has told about himself, I'm on his side here. Sure, what he did was not usual, but I think ignorance of his position is the only thing he was guilty of at the writing job, he was probably senior writer there. The two women in his hotel room just told the story and pursued nothing. The woman who thought he was jerking off on the phone could have caught him on the treadmill, because amazingly he would run miles a day to maintain his garbage heap of a body. So if there's anything around it besides that i haven't heard it and i don't know why i should dislike a guy for being a sexual entity on Earth. 

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1 hour ago, RainyDayJizz#35 said:

The point of him being awkward is that it is not a typical thing guys do with women. It happening at work is incidental at me, cause people fuck at work all the time. One guy told me about an old manager he had who loved fucking guys in her office because it was surrounded by one way mirrors. I believe Louis' apology and I doubt it was a random incident, he probably talked to her some before saying "wanna see my dick?" Sarah Silverman just went oh hell yeah I'll watch you jerk off. 

This woman Rebecca Corry is the only person I'm aware of maintaining this crusade of Louis can't work and it's ridiculous to me. She came out in secret saying she was told she shouldn't come forward because it would ruin her career. Later on when I happened upon her name, I was like what career. Then I heard her on Maron's podcast and she's nuts. If I remember right by the end Maron is just like, "well, uhhhh, bye." 

Two things about her that stuck out to me, she was a custodian for delta and met a British guy. Little fling, he gives her an earring and says he'll come back for it. Six months later she's at his job, I think he was a hotel busboy, giving the earring back and yelling at him cause she gets free flights on delta. I think that turned into a little relationship.

Then she's married to this other guy and has suspicions he's gay, finds what looks like a gay porn he's in and shuts it off right before anything happens. Just watched her husband making out with a guy which is crazy to me. Why not watch it, why not have it playing when he walks in. Anyway, she came off as legitimately kinda nuts to me.

So between the character of these people and the stories around it, as well as stories Louis has told about himself, I'm on his side here. Sure, what he did was not usual, but I think ignorance of his position is the only thing he was guilty of at the writing job, he was probably senior writer there. The two women in his hotel room just told the story and pursued nothing. The woman who thought he was jerking off on the phone could have caught him on the treadmill, because amazingly he would run miles a day to maintain his garbage heap of a body. So if there's anything around it besides that i haven't heard it and i don't know why i should dislike a guy for being a sexual entity on Earth. 

These stories aside, I'm not trying to tell you you should dislike the guy. You can still disapprove of the behavior but not the person who did the behavior. You're excusing the behavior as he did nothing wrong. THAT'S the issue that I'm having. Other people's opinions your reading / hearing might be telling you to hate the guy, but that's not what I'M saying. I'm saying don't excuse the behavior. Like the man all you want though.

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11 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said:

These stories aside, I'm not trying to tell you you should dislike the guy. You can still disapprove of the behavior but not the person who did the behavior. You're excusing the behavior as he did nothing wrong. THAT'S the issue that I'm having. Other people's opinions your reading / hearing might be telling you to hate the guy, but that's not what I'M saying. I'm saying don't excuse the behavior. Like the man all you want though.

Dude, you think you're awkward with women, at least you're capable of conversing here, which means you can be normal in the world. Some guys are out there doing really weird shit. Like a friend of mine has a friend who will say greetings when he meets a woman he's interested in. And that's mild awkwardness, I've heard so much worse than that.

I get what you mean though. I don't think what he did was cool exactly, the woman was an aspiring comedian and being a little weird didn't know how to respond to what he did obviously. I can't remember the years exactly but I think they were during some big years for him too, so he unknowingly had this power just because an audience is power for a comedian. But he created that situation. Through any misinterpretation or just straight out trying shit he made a mistake during a shitty time. I can forgive him that, because it's much more fitting to think him an idiot than someone maliciously lording his power to jack off wherever he wants although typing it that does sound like a dream world for him.

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4 hours ago, RainyDayJizz#35 said:

Dude, you think you're awkward with women, at least you're capable of conversing here, which means you can be normal in the world. Some guys are out there doing really weird shit. Like a friend of mine has a friend who will say greetings when he meets a woman he's interested in. And that's mild awkwardness, I've heard so much worse than that.

I get what you mean though. I don't think what he did was cool exactly, the woman was an aspiring comedian and being a little weird didn't know how to respond to what he did obviously. I can't remember the years exactly but I think they were during some big years for him too, so he unknowingly had this power just because an audience is power for a comedian. But he created that situation. Through any misinterpretation or just straight out trying shit he made a mistake during a shitty time. I can forgive him that, because it's much more fitting to think him an idiot than someone maliciously lording his power to jack off wherever he wants although typing it that does sound like a dream world for him.

lol no. I gravitated towards the Internet so much because it's so much easier to express myself this way. IRL I hardly say anything. I completely lack the ability to carry on a conversation irl. Here it helps that a lot of us have common interests. Not a lot of people irl to talk about cartoons with. And I avoid talking about my forever-aloneness irl as much as humanly possible. Also I avoid talking about politics irl as much as humanly possible for obvious reasons. Even if I get the sense whoever I'm speaking to generally has the same political leanings as me, I still don't want to talk about it. Really the only people irl I have to talk about music with are my bandmates, but even then it's basically just the well known bands, except one of my bandmates we sometimes talk about underground metal, but that's like it.

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On 8/19/2020 at 10:55 AM, RainyDayJizz#35 said:

Tracey Morgan would do it on stage and tell women he wants to get them pregnant. And they let him on stage again the next night and the room fills up again because people thought it was hilarious.

 

You do realize Tracy is fucking nanners and not exactly someone I would take......

Know what, nevermind.  I've totally pulled my dick out in many places....Just none of them being work, and I was never in danger of public scrutiny outside the people who saw it....So, I'm just gonna toss my cape on the floor and say I hypocritcally disagree.

But Tracy Morgan is fucking nanners

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5 minutes ago, rpgamer said:

Can [as] reach out to Dolly Parton for a special guest episode, for that sweet sweet ironic comeuppance?

Heh, that would definitely be an interesting way to address the issue straight to the face...

Early is on the screen about do his opening lines but super obviously impaired beyond any doubt, Granny interrupts before he can start and tells him he's cut for the night and his understudy is doing his damn lines until he can get his head out of his ass long enough to not sound like a braying jackass. He gets pulled off screen doing a stock tirade ramble that could be pieced and pulled from other rants [ since it doesn't have to make sense other than he's completely plotz'd ] and Dolly Parton comes on holding a script. The rest of the episode would be as scripted / storyboarded originally except all parts would be done by Dolly Parton reading the parts and her animated self obviously in place of Early with exception to any stunt work type actions. 

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8 hours ago, cyberbully said:

You do realize Tracy is fucking nanners and not exactly someone I would take......

Know what, nevermind.  I've totally pulled my dick out in many places....Just none of them being work, and I was never in danger of public scrutiny outside the people who saw it....So, I'm just gonna toss my cape on the floor and say I hypocritcally disagree.

But Tracy Morgan is fucking nanners

I don't doubt it, also I should have said he did that on stage, not does it. I only heard about him doing it once. One thing I did hear about him is that he reminds people of Chris Farley in that when he walks in the room he will effortlessly be the funniest person in it. Kinda want to see him do a live show just to see what that's like. 

And I actually think we agree about Louis cause I don't think it was exactly right. It's a situation where we only have her side which I actually respect Louis for, I haven't heard him say anything other than yes I did do this. Which is what he should have done to be respectful to her, been a long time since I read all this stuff. 

In my mind a lot of different things could have happened but he did make a mistake in not recognizing the power he had there and he copped to it. I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he just fucked up and people can be forgiven that.

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2 hours ago, RainyDayJizz#35 said:

 

And I actually think we agree about Louis

Well....I do believe i said I disagree, but it's whatever since like I said, I've whipped it out a few times.  But from what I gather, he sexually harassed some chicks that were working for/with him?

Is that correct.

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4 hours ago, Radical Left said:

Well....I do believe i said I disagree, but it's whatever since like I said, I've whipped it out a few times.  But from what I gather, he sexually harassed some chicks that were working for/with him?

Is that correct.

The one I would agree with. The others not really unless there's an incident I don't know about. The comedy lifestyle complicates the other questions, cause when you're out at the bar after you quit you job are you still working? I dunno.

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14 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

Heh, that would definitely be an interesting way to address the issue straight to the face...

Early is on the screen about do his opening lines but super obviously impaired beyond any doubt, Granny interrupts before he can start and tells him he's cut for the night and his understudy is doing his damn lines until he can get his head out of his ass long enough to not sound like a braying jackass. He gets pulled off screen doing a stock tirade ramble that could be pieced and pulled from other rants [ since it doesn't have to make sense other than he's completely plotz'd ] and Dolly Parton comes on holding a script. The rest of the episode would be as scripted / storyboarded originally except all parts would be done by Dolly Parton reading the parts and her animated self obviously in place of Early with exception to any stunt work type actions. 

even in-character, i'm not sure she'd be ok with reading some of early's lines. it would be interesting if she made it like 5 minutes in and then just went off-script and the screen froze, then cut to her in the studio tossing the script on the floor and making some remarks about how she can't even pretend to be so backwards or whatnot. and then the new voice actor shows up, picks up the script, and the animation picks up where it left off with the new voice actor in place for early. and not another word is ever said about it.

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27 minutes ago, wacky1980 said:

even in-character, i'm not sure she'd be ok with reading some of early's lines. it would be interesting if she made it like 5 minutes in and then just went off-script and the screen froze, then cut to her in the studio tossing the script on the floor and making some remarks about how she can't even pretend to be so backwards or whatnot. and then the new voice actor shows up, picks up the script, and the animation picks up where it left off with the new voice actor in place for early. and not another word is ever said about it.

Rework it to Early turning over a new leaf and becoming a decent guy, and in the end - it was all a dream.

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7 hours ago, wacky1980 said:

even in-character, i'm not sure she'd be ok with reading some of early's lines. it would be interesting if she made it like 5 minutes in and then just went off-script and the screen froze, then cut to her in the studio tossing the script on the floor and making some remarks about how she can't even pretend to be so backwards or whatnot. and then the new voice actor shows up, picks up the script, and the animation picks up where it left off with the new voice actor in place for early. and not another word is ever said about it.

There have been episodes where he's been stupid but full-blown 'tard. They could go with a script like that and since the whole thing would be animated Dolly as an obvious stand-in, it wouldn't matter if the lines weren't full-blown Early lines 100% of the show. The whole thing is basically a way to face the issue head on and then go on. 

So, your addition would definitely help them sew up the trouble with a new VA if they have a new VA. But only if they are willing to break the 4th wall to do so. So far, they've been purely animated and confined to their animated world. 

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That's... one way to do it, I guess. Would probably expect she'd be more likely to be on board if she's just playing herself, which seems like a role that would be far more fitting.

I don't think they'd need to have her reading his lines to "face the issue." Letting her spread her message (within the structure of the show), while denying him an audience for his, is as blunt about it as they'd need to be.

Whatever they do with it, it seems fitting to have Dan Halen ruin it all with capitalism at the end.

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1 hour ago, rpgamer said:

That's... one way to do it, I guess. Would probably expect she'd be more likely to be on board if she's just playing herself, which seems like a role that would be far more fitting.

I don't think they'd need to have her reading his lines to "face the issue." Letting her spread her message (within the structure of the show), while denying him an audience for his, is as blunt about it as they'd need to be.

Whatever they do with it, it seems fitting to have Dan Halen ruin it all with capitalism at the end.

That would be the joke, she would be herself just literally standing on cues openly reading the script as herself [ no voices, no costumes, just her ] . Since Baker decided to be all 'you all destroyed my career / I didn't do anything wrong being a giant douchecob' wah wah wah, having the person he was attacking shown replacing him completely for a single episode might do more than just having her do some sort of long form speech within the show. It's basically 'you want to be an ass? we can get other people to read these lines. like this person for example. ' 

I guess it's an attempt to salvage the program from this while putting out a message that won't be seen as preachy but just plain matter of fact - you f-ed up, the show can and will continue without you and here's a sample. Add a bit of wacky's segue at the end and the show continues with a new voice and Hinson gets officially dusted from the remaining season [ s ] .

It's all fantasy sports teams at this point though. I don't write for the show, I don't think anyone currently active on the boards here writes for the show, and I don't think anyone that writes for the shows is going to be actively farming this site for ideas. It would be awesome but highly unlikely. 

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3 hours ago, katt_goddess said:

That would be the joke, she would be herself just literally standing on cues openly reading the script as herself [ no voices, no costumes, just her ] . Since Baker decided to be all 'you all destroyed my career / I didn't do anything wrong being a giant douchecob' wah wah wah, having the person he was attacking shown replacing him completely for a single episode might do more than just having her do some sort of long form speech within the show. It's basically 'you want to be an ass? we can get other people to read these lines. like this person for example. ' 

I guess it's an attempt to salvage the program from this while putting out a message that won't be seen as preachy but just plain matter of fact - you f-ed up, the show can and will continue without you and here's a sample. Add a bit of wacky's segue at the end and the show continues with a new voice and Hinson gets officially dusted from the remaining season [ s ] .

It's all fantasy sports teams at this point though. I don't write for the show, I don't think anyone currently active on the boards here writes for the show, and I don't think anyone that writes for the shows is going to be actively farming this site for ideas. It would be awesome but highly unlikely. 

i wonder what kind of loyalty old stu still holds with the other creatives and staff of the show. it's easy to take an official position like this, but if he's actually friends with those folks, they might not be so eager to shit on his legacy. 

scratch that. i don't wonder. i thought i did there for a minute, but it passed. 

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Okay, here's my fantasy booking for Squidbillies:

  1. Early dies after years of drinking "Party Liquor," Dan Halen doesn't want to give the evidence to Sharif because it turns out to be a really good industrial solvent/cleaner, or
  2. Early gets hit with Federal charges, which Dougal Co. PD can't do anything about
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