discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 made a co~worker (i guess she's the 'bakery' manager) cry. and then give her 2 weeks. let me ask you this; should a front end manager leave during lunch? (obviously rhetorical). why is it so hard for people to understand that you're there to do a job, not sit around on your phone, or, chatting it up with customers (actually sitting at their table, as if you were invited to breakfast/lunch)? and then, come in my kitchen without something on your grape. wear a fucking hat, or hair~net. idgaf, AND WASH YOUR FUCKING PAWS FFS. follow the rules. out of all the employees, that are younger than her, they have more sense. of course, i can see she's one of those self~absorbed~look at me and all my drama~i'm better than you~shit birds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seight Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 My brother got fired from the Kroger Deli section once and they told him it was due to "Lack of Initiative." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
//>wagz./ Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 //> I've worked with similar Whaymen in the food to customer industry and yes it is all about their phone and drama ./ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 It would have happened sooner or later only feel a bit bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 I had a store manager start crying when she fired me, and her boss got mad and made her call me to give me my job back and I didn't take it. When she started crying it caught me off gaurd I have to admit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Poof Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 hours ago, discolemonade said: let me ask you this; should a front end manager leave during lunch? (obviously rhetorical). You're not allowed to leave for lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Poof said: You're not allowed to leave for lunch? Managers are usually scheduled to take lunch the hour before or after the lunch hour, due to the amount of customer traffic that occurs during the lunch hour. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Managers are usually scheduled to take lunch the hour before or after the lunch hour, due to the amount of customer traffic that occurs during the lunch hour. Yea but if they're not salary and they're off the clock, how can you expect to demand anything from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 40 minutes ago, Poof said: You're not allowed to leave for lunch? i'm the managing chef. i am in the back, she's supposed to be the front/end manager. she left to go to lunch with her mum....at lunch rush. and didn't bother telling me. i had 1 new runner and a baker that was helping out. fuck her. and no, you don't leave for lunch when your job is to make sure lunch goes smoothly and enjoyable for customers. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Poof said: Yea but if they're not salary and they're off the clock, how can you expect to demand anything from them? Part of the increase in pay for the title includes certain stipulations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Cau said: Is that Larry "Bud" Melman? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 7 hours ago, StarPanda said: It would have happened sooner or later only feel a bit bad. i dont' feel bad at all actually. she was threatened the first day i started. talked shit about me, (doesn't even know me) making sure the rest of the staff didn't do closing duties, didn't follow protocol. i kept my cool for the last 2 weeks. but when she left, and didn't say a word. yeah...i jumped on her shit. boss~lady looked mortified, but kept quiet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, PhilosipherStoned said: I had a store manager start crying when she fired me, and her boss got mad and made her call me to give me my job back and I didn't take it. When she started crying it caught me off gaurd I have to admit. i've cried at work. shit, i've cried while trying to train a bunch of shit bird marines. but NEVER EVER in front of them. and the crying was out of frustration~pissed~off~rage crying. but still YOU DON'T CRY IN BASEBALL! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, discolemonade said: i'm the managing chef. i am in the back, she's supposed to be the front/end manager. she left to go to lunch with her mum....at lunch rush. and didn't bother telling me. i had 1 new runner and a baker that was helping out. fuck her. and no, you don't leave for lunch when your job is to make sure lunch goes smoothly and enjoyable for customers. I work in a restaurant and its common sense not to take a break during busy hours. I usually work from 10:30 - 7:30 as a delivery driver and I don't take my break until 3:30 or 4:00. That was pretty fucking lame for your manager to do that without saying anything. I hope that dumb box gets fired. Edited September 2, 2019 by NeurocideVibekillah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, discolemonade said: i dont' feel bad at all actually. she was threatened the first day i started. talked shit about me, (doesn't even know me) making sure the rest of the staff didn't do closing duties, didn't follow protocol. i kept my cool for the last 2 weeks. but when she left, and didn't say a word. yeah...i jumped on her shit. boss~lady looked mortified, but kept quiet. Is she a millennial? Sounds like that one young bitch i had to deal with last year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: I work in a restaurant and its common sense not to take a break during busy hours. I usually work from 10:30 - 7:30 as a delivery driver and I don't take my break until 3:30 or 4:00. That was pretty fucking dumb for your manager to do that without saying anything. I hope that dumb box gets fired. well, i sat her down with boss lady, i said my peace, and before i could finish the 1st part of what i needed to tell her, she sulks into the couch, grabs her hat bill down, starts tearing up and said 'well, i'm just gonna' give my 2 week notice' i said, that's all well and good, but while you're here for the next 2 weeks, you don't leave during lunch, and you don't leave without letting me know. she hates me. she's a kid. good riddance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, fuggstop said: Is she a millennial? Sounds like that one young bitch i had to ' deal with last year she is. spoiled. all she talks about his how rich her 'daddy' is, how rich her family is, all her clothes...and thats only if she has her nose out of her phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, discolemonade said: i'm the managing chef. i am in the back, she's supposed to be the front/end manager. she left to go to lunch with her mum....at lunch rush. and didn't bother telling me. i had 1 new runner and a baker that was helping out. fuck her. and no, you don't leave for lunch when your job is to make sure lunch goes smoothly and enjoyable for customers. That should probably be a rule then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, discolemonade said: she is. spoiled. all she talks about his how rich her 'daddy' is, how rich her family is, all her clothes...and thats only if she has her nose out of her phone. Yah those types dont last long at jobs..its like their brains are wired right and they do a lot and say a lot that makes zero sense to most people our age. I quit trying to figure them out and try to sadly only deal with 30+ people for my peace of mind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, discolemonade said: well, i sat her down with boss lady, i said my peace, and before i could finish the 1st part of what i needed to tell her, she sulks into the couch, grabs her hat bill down, starts tearing up and said 'well, i'm just gonna' give my 2 week notice' i said, that's all well and good, but while you're here for the next 2 weeks, you don't leave during lunch, and you don't leave without letting me know. she hates me. she's a kid. good riddance. I work with high school kids and adults younger than me. Thankfully they're not that ignorant. Sorry that you have to deal. ...Well on second thought, we did have a kid come in for like a day but left almost immediately because he freaked out over being required to wear non-slip shoes. He was gone so fast I didn't even notice him Edited September 2, 2019 by NeurocideVibekillah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, fuggstop said: Yah those types dont last long at jobs..its like their brains are wired right and they do a lot and say a lot that makes zero sense to most people our age. I quit trying to figure them out and try to sadly only deal with 30+ people for my peace of mind well, the deal is she's been with boss lady since opening (5 yrs) boss lady had a baby 18 months ago or so..and spent a LOT of time away from the shop. so spoiled girl ran the show. almost into the ground. i knew she wouldn't last, just from the way boss lady spoke. she's been bleeding money for a year now, to the point that this is her last ditch effort, bringing me on board. she's frustrated and tired, i asked her to give me 90 days, then we'll talk. and now it also looks like my plate just got a bit more full. which is fine, (i kind of want to keep the macarons in stock daily, so i'll learn how to make them.~ that wasn't her task, but should have been) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: I work with high school kids and adults younger than me. Thankfully they're not that ignorant. Sorry that you have to deal. ...Well on second thought, we did have a kid come in for like a day but left almost immediately because he freaked out over being required to wear non-slip shoes. He was gone so fast I didn't even notice him all the kids are younger than me. the biggest crime from day 1 on my part, making everybody wear a hat/hairnet/shave their grape (kidding on the last one) and wash hands, and no opened toe shoes. she would purposely come in with all the no's on the list. she was actually telling people to ignore me. she would refuse to put one on. finally i told her 'put something on your grape, or get out of my kitchen' the other kids like me (so they say), and love my playlist XD *in the morning she's supposed to make cupcakes, hence having to follow servsafe Edited September 2, 2019 by discolemonade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Poof said: That should probably be a rule then it is a rule. it's a rule in most restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, discolemonade said: all the kids are younger than me. the biggest crime from day 1 on my part, making everybody wear a hat/hairnet/shave their grape (kidding on the last one) and wash hands, and no opened toe shoes. she would purposely come in with all the no's on the list. she was actually telling people to ignore me. she would refuse to put one on. finally i told her 'put something on your grape, or get out of my kitchen' the other kids like me (so they say), and love my playlist XD *in the morning she's supposed to make cupcakes, hence having to follow servsafe The fuck is a grape? Some wierd slang term for someone's head or something? I always thought you ate grapes, not dress them up. lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: The fuck is a grape? Some wierd slang term for someone's head or something? I always thought you ate grapes, not dress them up. lol yeah...grape, noggin', cranium. in pissed off mode, the correct terms get shoved way way way down deep inside, and these come up instead of fucking head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, discolemonade said: yeah...grape, noggin', cranium. in pissed off mode, the correct terms get shoved way way way down deep inside, and these come up instead of fucking head. Fair enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 You shouldn't feel bad at all. You were hired to do a job. That job entails keeping the doors open. A part of that is making sure that the rest of the staff follow protocols, particularly protocols that keep local health dept. inspectors from shutting down your business. This front end manager had no clue and no sense of responsibility. She was a liability and a detriment to morale. You did the right thing by getting rid of her. You don't leave during lunch rush, sheesh. I used to work in a kitchen, break was always around 3:00 on a double shift, sometimes 3:30 or even 4:00 if we were busy or it was a Saturday or football Sunday. I deal with it all the time, it is a millennial/Gen Z thing. Bunch of sawft kids, they get told when they are contracted what the expectations are, they are given a written copy and they sign a written copy. I'm nice, I understand things happen and I will usually cover and help if something comes up, provided they are responsible and tell me. If they lie, if they just flake out they are gone. If they violate the contract they are gone. I feel bad for having to do it, but I know I have to do it, so I do it. I try to keep an eye on things, I try to train and encourage, I help them reach goals and generally be successful. If they try I try for them, if they are lazy they are gone. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_girl_lost Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 i'm in a position where I hire/fire people the last kid I had to fire spent all his time at work on his phone and primping & preening himself and not paying any attention to his job, his drawer was short about $80 two shifts in a row, so I had to terminate him. I felt bad for about 30 seconds. Then the next day he applied at the dollar general across the street and told them that he wasn't fired from my store, he walked off the job, then he accused another worker of stealing from his drawer, a worker that didn't even work on one of the days he was short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, little_girl_lost said: i'm in a position where I hire/fire people the last kid I had to fire spent all his time at work on his phone and primping & preening himself and not paying any attention to his job, his drawer was short about $80 two shifts in a row, so I had to terminate him. I felt bad for about 30 seconds. Then the next day he applied at the dollar general across the street and told them that he wasn't fired from my store, he walked off the job, then he accused another worker of stealing from his drawer, a worker that didn't even work on one of the days he was short. You know he was taking that money, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_girl_lost Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, fuggstop said: You know he was taking that money, right? it was probably a combination of that and his not paying attention. I had a lot of good customers come to me and tell me that he wasn't charging them enough or that their gas pump wouldn't stop at the prepaid amount, like they paid for $20, but that gas pump would go all the way to $40 worth, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggstop Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Just now, little_girl_lost said: it was probably a combination of that and his not paying attention. I had a lot of good customers come to me and tell me that he wasn't charging them enough or that their gas pump wouldn't stop at the prepaid amount, like they paid for $20, but that gas pump would go all the way to $40 worth, Oh so he was just stupid. i find that in younger employees too... loads of stupidity. Like at Kmart this girl somehow counted her drawer down but they had to keep telling her to separate the bills. Something that should be common fucking sense. They are stupid in the most unimaginable ways. When I was a young kid just starting out I was so good I almost took over the entire establishment. I never see that these days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, discolemonade said: all the kids are younger than me. the biggest crime from day 1 on my part, making everybody wear a hat/hairnet/shave their grape (kidding on the last one) and wash hands, and no opened toe shoes. she would purposely come in with all the no's on the list. she was actually telling people to ignore me. she would refuse to put one on. finally i told her 'put something on your grape, or get out of my kitchen' the other kids like me (so they say), and love my playlist XD *in the morning she's supposed to make cupcakes, hence having to follow servsafe You might want to scour that place for anything she might have intentionally left behind that she could sic the Health Dept. on the place about. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, tsar4 said: You might want to scour that place for anything she might have intentionally left behind that she could sic the Health Dept. on the place about. well, she's there for another 2 weeks, but yeah, i've already decided to keep a close eye on what's going on. and luckily i have a visual of the kitchen, and that's my concern, we have cameras, i can't see the display case up front, but i don't think she'd be stupid enough to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, discolemonade said: well, she's there for another 2 weeks, but yeah, i've already decided to keep a close eye on what's going on. and luckily i have a visual of the kitchen, and that's my concern, we have cameras, i can't see the display case up front, but i don't think she'd be stupid enough to do that. Doesn't take much. A few roach carcasses or mouse droppings, a fridge with a temp that's just a degree too warm, steam tables too cool, a hair placed in food. Never underestimate the stupidity of people when they try to get even. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpme Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, tsar4 said: Doesn't take much. A few roach carcasses or mouse droppings, a fridge with a temp that's just a degree too warm, steam tables too cool, a hair placed in food. Never underestimate the stupidity of people when they try to get even. Sabotaging is criminal and regardless of her social status she won't be able to get out of that type of lawsuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, helpme said: Sabotaging is criminal and regardless of her social status she won't be able to get out of that type of lawsuit A lot of businesses don't like going to court and won't press charges. I don't know if tampering with food would involve the Feds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 3, 2019 Author Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Doesn't take much. A few roach carcasses or mouse droppings, a fridge with a temp that's just a degree too warm, steam tables too cool, a hair placed in food. Never underestimate the stupidity of people when they try to get even. true true. i'll be vigilant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, discolemonade said: true true. i'll be vigilant. That goes for your own back too. I had my sidewalls screwdrivered after writing someone up leading to their dismissal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpme Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, tsar4 said: A lot of businesses don't like going to court and won't press charges. I don't know if tampering with food would involve the Feds. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1365 It does remember the lick the ice cream lid and put it back on the shelf thing? https://www.crimeonline.com/2019/07/04/food-tampering-is-not-a-joke-woman-opens-ice-cream-licks-it-and-puts-it-back-on-walmart-shelf-in-viral-video/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helpme Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, tsar4 said: That goes for your own back too. I had my sidewalls screwdrivered after writing someone up leading to their dismissal. That's cruel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, helpme said: That's cruel It sucked. I was closing Mgr & had to drop off the day's deposit, so I tried plugging the sidewall which I knew wouldn't work. I was on the south side of Chicago & lived 10 miles north. (for an idea of where, I offer this famous movie pic taken 8 blocks north of the store). I got to the bank & then the plug blew out. I limped to a well lit parking lot & got a nearly flat spare on, then limped to a gas station to air it up. Wrecked the clothes I had on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renjifan Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 hours ago, discolemonade said: she is. spoiled. all she talks about his how rich her 'daddy' is, how rich her family is, all her clothes...and thats only if she has her nose out of her phone. Oh yikes. I know how that goes. I used to work at a restaurant with a bunch of high school kids. You could always tell which ones actually needed the job - they showed initiative and would put in the effort. The others had the privilege of having parents willing to shell out money whenever. Those were the ones who had to constantly be told what to do. As assistant manager, I never fired anyone, but did send people home early from their shifts. No sense in them staying and getting paid for the work the others were putting in. Sounds like she needed that reality check from you. If she wants to be immature and put in her notice instead of owning her mistake and moving forward, that’s on her. Hopefully she shows up for her last two weeks, though. We had kids who didn’t seem to understand that putting in your two weeks meant that you still had to work for two more weeks... 😐 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 9:34 PM, renjifan said: Oh yikes. I know how that goes. I used to work at a restaurant with a bunch of high school kids. You could always tell which ones actually needed the job - they showed initiative and would put in the effort. The others had the privilege of having parents willing to shell out money whenever. Those were the ones who had to constantly be told what to do. As assistant manager, I never fired anyone, but did send people home early from their shifts. No sense in them staying and getting paid for the work the others were putting in. Sounds like she needed that reality check from you. If she wants to be immature and put in her notice instead of owning her mistake and moving forward, that’s on her. Hopefully she shows up for her last two weeks, though. We had kids who didn’t seem to understand that putting in your two weeks meant that you still had to work for two more weeks... 😐 so far, she's been very nice, extremely helpful, and now lets me know when she's going out of the building. i'll take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 8:50 PM, tsar4 said: That goes for your own back too. I had my sidewalls screwdrivered after writing someone up leading to their dismissal. had this happen to me. i was a bartender at a lingerie bar. i'm not entirely sure who did it. could have been the server that i knew was pocketing money/tips. so i made her pay for her drinks up front, as opposed to cashing out at night? or this one dude that wouldn't take 'no' for an answer? walked out with bouncer, to find my tire with slice in the sidewall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 On 9/2/2019 at 2:45 PM, discolemonade said: i've cried at work. shit, i've cried while trying to train a bunch of shit bird marines. but NEVER EVER in front of them. and the crying was out of frustration~pissed~off~rage crying. but still YOU DON'T CRY IN BASEBALL! Tears of rage. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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