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Holy shit!!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html

No Kryptonite here!! Led by M.A.W. Superman, Toonami kicked off with a stunning 0.152!!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html

Dr. Stone and One Piece also did well, and Naruto Shippuden better than usual too. Oddly enough, Superman's Thursday premieres didn't do as well.

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12 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Holy shit!!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html

No Kryptonite here!! Led by M.A.W. Superman, Toonami kicked off with a stunning 0.152!!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html

Dr. Stone and One Piece also did well, and Naruto Shippuden better than usual too. Oddly enough, Superman's Thursday premieres didn't do as well.

Our first week without SBD and we have a bigger ratings picture than we have seen in months. I know they are doing it to get it on Max ASAP, but they are clearly blowing an opportunity here with having Superman premier on Toonami. I can’t remember the last time we saw a 0.15 on Toonami. Genndy isnt breathing down their neck on this one, this should have been a block premier and the numbers back that up. If this keeps up, maybe they will change their tune for S2. 

Superman is definitely the surprise of 2023. I thought two episodes would be enough for me to write it off, instead I’m looking forward to the next. The fake anime is giving the block something it desperately needed from real anime but Demarco could never be convinced to try. 

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On 7/11/2023 at 8:23 PM, OwlChemist81 said:

Holy shit!!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html

No Kryptonite here!! Led by M.A.W. Superman, Toonami kicked off with a stunning 0.152!!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html

Dr. Stone and One Piece also did well, and Naruto Shippuden better than usual too. Oddly enough, Superman's Thursday premieres didn't do as well.

This may surprise you but Superman is kind of a big deal for the last 80 years or so =P

Fun Superman fact, he couldn't fly when he first debuted.

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14 minutes ago, Daos said:

This may surprise you but Superman is kind of a big deal for the last 80 years or so =P

Fun Superman fact, he couldn't fly when he first debuted.

I kinda expected Superman to do well, but I am STUNNED at this! Let's see how Episode 3 (or is it 2?) did tomorrow!

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GUESS WHAT DAY IT IS!? RATINGS HUMP-DAY!! 🐪🐫🐪

PART 1: PREMIERES

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

American Dad's new 11 PM Wednesday premiere led the charge, while Dr. Stone, MAWS, and One Piece dropped a bit but still did pretty solid and made the Top 100. Shippuden checked in at #123 on the Top 400.

PART 2: RERUNS

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html

Unfortunately, no Toonami shows made the Top 200, confirming that MAWS' huge numbers on the Better Cartoon Show last week were probably a fluke. The cut-off was 0.107 in 18-49, so MAWS on Toonami did not much better than or worse than Dr. Stone (0.102).

When Checkered Past hits, that premieres list is probably going to start looking really interesting, since the shows that airs there are technically network premieres for [as]. Normally, reruns would likely fall outside the Top 200 at those hours, but we may get a glimpse into how those shows are doing at those hours after all!

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🐪 TIME FOR YOUR RATINGS HUMP-DAY REPORT!! 🐫

Part 1: PREMIERES

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

Toonami premieres did decently, staying over 0.05 in 18-49 and 100K. Superman did better on Thursday night.

Part 2: RERUNS

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html

None of the Toonami reruns made it, but interestingly enough, all 5 Venture Bros. episodes in the Friday night marathon DID! GO TEAM VENTURE!!

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🦈 SHARK WEEK RATINGS REPORT! 🦈

PART 1: PREMIERES

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

Not bad for Superman, but looks like a rare Toonami shutout, with both premieres considerably below the cutoff of 0.061.

PART 2: RERUNS

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html?m=1

No Toonami shows made it, but 2 Friday Futuramas did. Friday marathon shows making the Reruns Top 200 is an interesting trend I didn't expect to see.

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1 hour ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Holy crap, you're right! I thought I saw them yesterday but that must have been before they added all the sports and news, I guess?

147    ONE PIECE    ADSM    Sat    01:30 - 02:00    0.056    135
153    NARUTO: SHIPPUDEN    ADSM    Sat    02:00 - 02:30    0.052    110

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1 hour ago, korosu said:

147    ONE PIECE    ADSM    Sat    01:30 - 02:00    0.056    135
153    NARUTO: SHIPPUDEN    ADSM    Sat    02:00 - 02:30    0.052    110

Yeah. That's what I saw yesterday, but for some reason I couldn't find them this morning!

The cutoff is 0.061 this morning so those two wouldn't have made it.

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How far did My Adventures With Superman Episode 5 drop from its lead-in?

19 RICK & MORTY ADSM Thu 23:30 - 00:00 0.160 296

But then...

142 MY ADV. W SUPERMAN ADSM Thu 0:00-0:30 0.107 204

Quite a drop in both Total Viewers (-92K) and 18-49 (-0.053)

And this may be the last week we're in the dark about Toonami premiere ratings after all:

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3 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

And this may be the last week we're in the dark about Toonami premiere ratings after all:

I think this week was an anomaly, considering the first 90 minutes of the block was reruns this week. Not really conducive to good ratings. But this week we get back to normal with only 30 minutes of reruns up front so things should make the top chart again. 

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Ouch.

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/08/tv-ratings-for-saturday-5th-august-2023.html

Double-digit club members incoming! This is Toonami's worst-rated night of 2023 so far, though 0.05 in 18-49 for Dr. Stone isn't THAT bad. If only it could migrate to TNT after AEW:Collision...or maybe Discovery could try reruns, since it KINDA fits their theme? I'd like to see what a special sneak FLCL: Grunge premiere would do there.

Looks like they started posting the daily Cable numbers on Friday, so no Superman numbers yet.

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Oof, I’d be willing to bet that might be the worst ratings average Toonami has ever had.  It’s almost like an unannounced Dr Stone rerun rather than just pressing forward was a bad idea or something. But hey, at least they actually made the chart this week. A shame we won’t be able to see the two upcoming rerun marathons, they will probably make these numbers look like a home run. 

We need a lineup refresh ASAP with some actual new content. Grunge ain’t enough Demarco. 

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45 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said:

Eat ass.

I told y’all it was a dumb idea to repeat the episode. Nobody wanted to listen. People actually believed going backwards, rerunning, then forwards was what the audience wanted. And they didn’t even announce any of this on air, so irregular viewers were thrown way off. They should have aired them both back to back the following week as they had done with SAO when it had its issue. 

Sorry that I was right. 

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1 hour ago, PokeNirvash said:

And with that, to quote Elfie, wherever he is... you are blocked.

>make a non argument blind insult towards something you took an L on
>have it explained to you exactly why you are being served the L despite doing nothing but making an insult
>double down, hit ‘em with the “BLOCKED BRO”
>act like this doesn’t make your clown nose and wig get bigger

Dont care if you don’t see this, others need to.

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Well, Supes just barely made the Top 200 with Episode 6, with its Thursday premiere checking in at #199.

Unfortunately, Toonami premieres are shut out for the 2nd week in a row, as the bar to make the Top 400 got raised even higher to 0.065:

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

As for the Reruns, no surprises here. You'd think Gigglefudge might make it in the wake of Paul Reubens' death, but no dice. This also means no Friday marathon or ACME Night over 0.102 in 18-49.

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html?m=1

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Well, my work computer is disabled so I might as well update this. For once I can honestly say it's not like I had anything better to do!

Looks like Dr. Stone tied it in 18-49, and made the Top 50 to boot:

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/08/tv-ratings-for-saturday-12th-august-2023.html?m=1

18-49 0.08/151K #33

One Piece and Shippuden just missed it, with 0.05 each, an uptick from last week. Both also cracked 100K.

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Oh, how did I miss the weekly charts!?

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

Dr. Stone finally ends the Toonami shutout on the Top 400, as it checks in at #278 for the week. Not only that, but it actually beat My Adventures With Superman, which landed at #315 with its Thursday premiere.

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html?m=1

The American Dad episode which led-in to Toonami made the Top 200, but unfortunately MAWS on Toonami did not.

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MAWS has utterly tanked these past few weeks in the ratings.  Any boost that initial curiosity around tomboy Lois gave the show seems to have been replaced by the usual arguments that have dominated everything DC since Man of Steel came out (namely, Zack Snyder is the best and a genius, or a compete hack so far up his own ass it’s hard to tell where one side ends and the other begins).  

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2 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

To be fair, this was the Mxy episode, not Zero Day, Part 1. It will be interesting to see if it can manage to buck the trend.

Fair enough.  That being said it felt like Mxy’s appearance being so generic and a lot of negative comparisons to Gilbert Gottfried’s legendary performance made the conversation around the series turn negative.

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Zero Day, Part 1 actually did pretty good on Thursday night:

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/08/tv-ratings-for-thursday-17th-august-2023.html

...as did Dr. Stone and Shippuden during Toonami:

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/08/tv-ratings-for-saturday-19th-august-2023.html

All 3 of those placed in the Top 50 18-49. One Piece landed at #60 but all premieres got over 130K and 0.06, rounded off at least.

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/08/tv-ratings-for-sunday-20th-august-2023.html?m=1

Last but not least, note that ACME Night's Emoji Movie actually made the Top 150. The Justice League vs. Teen Titans movie last week did not.

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MAWS and Dr. Stone made the cutoff for the Top 400 Cable Originals, but One Piece and Shippuden didn't:

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html

As for reruns, no Toonami shows made the cutoff, but kudos to Royal Crackers and the Boondocks on Tuesday night for landing on the Top 200:

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html?m=1

205K at 1 AM on a Tuesday night? Not too shabby!

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  • 2 weeks later...

While we eagerly await numbers from today for FLCL: Grunge and the AOT special, let's get caught up...

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/09/tv-ratings-for-thursday-31st-august.html?m=1

MAWS mid-season finale #30 with a 0.09 and over 200K. Not bad for a premiere these days...

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/09/tv-ratings-for-friday-31st-august-2023.html?m=1

But the Venture Bros. movie did even better on its respective day by rank (#25) and total viewers, while seemingly tying it in 18-49...

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

...and just barely edged it out on the weekly chart to boot!

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-200-cable-reruns-week-ending-26th_01243089880.html?m=1

BUT last Saturday, September 2nd, MAWS actually did MUCH better than both, scoring 238K total viewers and a 0.107 in Adults 18-49! Unfortunately, all the FLCL Alternative Marathon missed the cutoff of 0.099

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31 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

I could be mistaken, but I believe we saw some AOT Final Season Part 2 premieres do worse!

You are correct, quite a few episodes in fact did worse than this, which is why I had such low expectations for this on top of the excessive delay. 
 

Not a bad night, but before I cheer for Grunge I want to see it’s week 2. If I’m remembering right, HCC also had a decent premier episode, followed up by 3 bombs. 

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6 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

You are correct, quite a few episodes in fact did worse than this, which is why I had such low expectations for this on top of the excessive delay. 
 

Not a bad night, but before I cheer for Grunge I want to see it’s week 2. If I’m remembering right, HCC also had a decent premier episode, followed up by 3 bombs. 

From what I can tell, the worst AOT Final Season Part 2 did is about 153K and a 0.07 in Adults 18-49. It also always placed in the Top 100, as its nadir was #97. In those days, 200K viewers had trouble staying with the block past 12:30, but last week over 200K stayed with it and AOT until 2 AM!

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https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/03/top-400-cable-shows-week-ending-26th_01602488462.html?m=1

FLCL Grunge was the lone Toonami show in the Top 200 for the week, checking in at #199 with a 0.086 in 18-49 and 207K total viewers. AOT landed at #235 with 0.079 and 206K total viewers, suggesting but not confirming more TEENAGE viewers may have been watching that than FLCL. Naruto Shippuden also did decently, charting #257 with 0.077 and 188K.

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3 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said:

What if anything? It's doubled-up and moving up to 12:30. If that's not "something", I don't know what is.

Yeah, that something seems to be the classic “leech off the popularity of others.”  Which fair play, was definitely an option.

 

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8 hours ago, Jman said:

Yeah, that something seems to be the classic “leech off the popularity of others.”  Which fair play, was definitely an option.

Is there anything more to be done? I feel like anyone turned on to One Piece by the Netflix adaptation is already spoiled by streaming culture and wouldn’t even consider trying to hop into the anime via Toonami. They don’t really have a good way to leverage having the anime into riding the live action coattails to better viewership. 

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8 hours ago, Jman said:

Yeah, that something seems to be the classic “leech off the popularity of others.”  Which fair play, was definitely an option.

 

Well if that is the case then you should at least give them kudos for having faith that One Piece live action would be a hit.

They did after all make that schedule decision before the live action show even dropped. The post was on August 17th.

But LAOP succeeding probably didn’t have anything to do with that schedule decision. They simply have no other options besides reruns and they took three weeks off of One Piece so a couple weeks of doubles make up for that.

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So while Toonami is occasionally hoping for handouts from Warner and Max, their deal to license older HBO shows to Netflix seems to be paying dividends.  Ballers (about The Rock as a former NFL player turned agent) Band of Brothers, and The Pacific are all tearing up the ratings.  I mean to be fair, it is Band of Brothers, while one of the greatest miniseries of all time, something Toonami isn't about to air, but it feels like they're getting left out in the cold for the short term dollar.

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7 hours ago, Jman said:

Ballers (about The Rock as a former NFL player turned agent)

Oh man, I remember that one! But not because I watched it. It generated a memorable A.V. Club running gag: Ballers' Rob Corddry.

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Well, maybe not *that* memorable.
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