Jman Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/cowboy-bebop-live-action-series-netflix-1203038458/ Hopefully it’s more akin to Bleach than Death Note. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressAngel Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Who keeps asking for these live action remakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Demarco's dream was probably to not only direct it but to cast himself as the star. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 So what the hell do you want DeMarco to do?? He can't remake something in live-action. Williams Street doesn't have the budget for it! They can barely make a good animated series they fund themselves, but they know that's the best way to get Toonami's name out there: a series people can ONLY watch on Toonami! In fact ..... how the hell did you put DeMarco into any of this!? You could just as well have title this thread "Netflix greenlights LA Cowboy Bebop series" and it'd be fine! Why do you take any, all, and needless opportunities to diss DeMarco!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 10 hours ago, EmpressAngel said: Who keeps asking for these live action remakes? Someone without a lot of original ideas. Bonus - This is the same company that is making the LA One Piece. Expect announcements on that soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, elfie said: So what the hell do you want DeMarco to do?? He can't remake something in live-action. Williams Street doesn't have the budget for it! They can barely make a good animated series they fund themselves, but they know that's the best way to get Toonami's name out there: a series people can ONLY watch on Toonami! In fact ..... how the hell did you put DeMarco into any of this!? You could just as well have title this thread "Netflix greenlights LA Cowboy Bebop series" and it'd be fine! Why do you take any, all, and needless opportunities to diss DeMarco!? ...It was a joke. Because he’s a Bebop fanboy? Speaking of, I can only wonder how old Ransla is taking this. Probably how Moose took the idea of LA One Piece on HBO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jman said: ...It was a joke. Because he’s a Bebop fanboy? Speaking of, I can only wonder how old Ransla is taking this. Probably how Moose took the idea of LA One Piece on HBO. Well I'm not laughing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, elfie said: Well I'm not laughing. And that's supposed to make it automatically unfunny to everybody else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenigundam Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Death Note is far superior to Bleach and one of the top 10 anime ever. Sober up. 🤦♂️ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter_Rain Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Not sure why this was needed, and live action adaptations of anime don't exactly have a stellar track record, but...ok. Casting choices and the soundtrack are going to make a big difference in the likelihood of this turning out to be remotely decent at all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Yoko Kano please get her to do the score. You have tooo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter_Rain Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Zenigundam said: Death Note is far superior to Bleach and one of the top 10 anime ever. Sober up. 🤦♂️ Have you only watched 10 anime? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Winter_Rain said: Have you only watched 10 anime? Don't feed the troll, it'll only make him stronger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter_Rain Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, PokeNirvash said: Don't feed the troll, it'll only make him stronger. We both know that's not true. He hangs around and keeps coming back no matter what. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Owl Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Zenigundam said: Death Note is far superior to Bleach and one of the top 10 anime ever. Sober up. 🤦♂️ Bleach is shit it should of ended after the first season but instead it got a pink slip Edited December 1, 2018 by Admin_Raptorpat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mookielady Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I'm both scared and excited for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 At least this means if this ends up sucking, Cowboy Bebop won't be defiled by a Demarco funded Toonami original sequel first, should he not know to leave well enough alone there. This should also be alternate canon/continuity, so no harm done there. At least they won't be white-washing this, since the characters aren't Japanese. Not sure about Ed's ethnicity though. She's like a ginger Ishvalen, lol. We've said this before about previous shows, but this should translate really well to an American adaptation since it is not particularly Japanese-centric. When I was a newbie back in the day I didn't even think it was an anime! Generally realistic world and character designs, no wacky art shifts or anime "comedy," just the general feel and tone and themes of the show, do not scream anime. Part of its appeal and what makes it so good, I imagine. In fact, isn't Bebop and Watanabe stuff in general not even popular in Japan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 See, I'm still expecting there to be calls about white-washing once they announce the cast. Do you honestly expect that people will do enough research into the show to see that the main characters aren't explicitly Japanese, or will they see "anime" and just run with it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 2:18 AM, ben0119 said: In fact, isn't Bebop and Watanabe stuff in general not even popular in Japan? Cowboy Bebop has a fandom in Japan. It's just that it was less of a huge phenomenon that shaped an entire country's view of anime and more of a cult classic, but American fans like to pretend it bombed over there. But to be fair, I can't say the same for Watanabe's other works, and they're probably not as known in his home country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 11:18 PM, ben0119 said: At least this means if this ends up sucking, Cowboy Bebop won't be defiled by a Demarco funded Toonami original sequel first, should he not know to leave well enough alone there. This should also be alternate canon/continuity, so no harm done there. At least they won't be white-washing this, since the characters aren't Japanese. Not sure about Ed's ethnicity though. She's like a ginger Ishvalen, lol. We've said this before about previous shows, but this should translate really well to an American adaptation since it is not particularly Japanese-centric. When I was a newbie back in the day I didn't even think it was an anime! Generally realistic world and character designs, no wacky art shifts or anime "comedy," just the general feel and tone and themes of the show, do not scream anime. Part of its appeal and what makes it so good, I imagine. In fact, isn't Bebop and Watanabe stuff in general not even popular in Japan? DeMarco has never wanted a sequel to Bebop and thank the stars for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) On 12/4/2018 at 8:46 AM, CaptainStarwind said: See, I'm still expecting there to be calls about white-washing once they announce the cast. Do you honestly expect that people will do enough research into the show to see that the main characters aren't explicitly Japanese, or will they see "anime" and just run with it? It's like when people flipped out about Iron Fist being white and not Asian. Not only did they not do their research to figure out the original character was white, but they racistly assumed a martial artist would be Asian! SJWs gonna SJW! It wouldn't shock me at all if this happened. On 12/4/2018 at 10:47 AM, Blatch said: Cowboy Bebop has a fandom in Japan. It's just that it was less of a huge phenomenon that shaped an entire country's view of anime and more of a cult classic, but American fans like to pretend it bombed over there. But to be fair, I can't say the same for Watanabe's other works, and they're probably not as known in his home country. Ah ok. Well I knew it wasn't as popular in Japan. Well there was a reason why Watanabe wanted to do Space Dandy on Adult Swim/Toonami. He recognizes that his work isn't as popular in his home country and has appreciation for his foreign fans. There's a few other shows like that, too. Trigun, I think? I heard the new movie was made mostly due to American demand. On 12/5/2018 at 6:50 AM, Sketch said: DeMarco has never wanted a sequel to Bebop and thank the stars for that. Well thank God. Edited December 8, 2018 by ben0119 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter_Rain Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 8:46 AM, CaptainStarwind said: See, I'm still expecting there to be calls about white-washing once they announce the cast. Do you honestly expect that people will do enough research into the show to see that the main characters aren't explicitly Japanese, or will they see "anime" and just run with it? Did you do enough research into the show?? The characters aren't explicitly Japanese, but they're also not whitebread white people either. Spike has a Jewish surname, Ed is brown, and Faye is from Singapore, a multiethnic Southeast Asian country mostly populated by Chinese, Indians, and Malays. The casting 100% deserves to get questioned if it just "happens" that the actors all end up being white with Northern European features. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Winter_Rain said: Did you do enough research into the show?? The characters aren't explicitly Japanese, but they're also not whitebread white people either. Spike has a Jewish surname, Ed is brown, and Faye is from Singapore, a multiethnic Southeast Asian country mostly populated by Chinese, Indians, and Malays. The casting 100% deserves to get questioned if it just "happens" that the actors all end up being white with Northern European features. But Ed has red hair. It's unclear what ethnicity she is. Like I said, a ginger Ishvalen! Didn't remember that Faye is from there. Haven't watched the show in years and have no appetite for it after years of ASA and Demarco's forcefeeding. Yeah Spike has a Jewish surname I guess but doesn't mean he is Jewish. His hair is greenish black too so what ethnicity is that? Edit - I never really thought Faye looked overly Asian before, but looking through her gallery on the wiki here, now that you mention it... http://cowboybebop.wikia.com/wiki/Faye_Valentine See, look at her features. Also homina homina homina I'm spending way too much time on this! And her and her childhood friends. The only one that looks white is possibly the one on the far right, I'd say possibly the daughter of Americans serving in the military stationed there. We have a base there, don't we? We have bases every-fucking-where. I also had no idea of the timing of when Faye was born and her accident happened. I thought it was further in the future. This definitely departs from our world, then, because there were no civilians spaceships in 2014, lol. Guess it would make sense, since she recorded that movie on a Betamax tape. And I finally figured out how to stop wiki images from shrinking when you link to them! Woo! Gotta go to their page and then click on "original file." Just clicking on "see full size image" from whatever page you are on doesn't do it. I thought it was something they had set up to prevent linking to the images, but I guess not. I have no idea why it does that, then. Edited December 9, 2018 by ben0119 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 11:03 PM, Winter_Rain said: Did you do enough research into the show?? The characters aren't explicitly Japanese, but they're also not whitebread white people either. Spike has a Jewish surname, Ed is brown, and Faye is from Singapore, a multiethnic Southeast Asian country mostly populated by Chinese, Indians, and Malays. The casting 100% deserves to get questioned if it just "happens" that the actors all end up being white with Northern European features. I posted that after I got home from work in the morning, so while I know that the Bebop cast is not explicitly "white", I wasn't nearly coherent enough to either think about or express that. I'm not denying any of that. But I also don't expect the majority of people (other than those familiar with the anime) to look any further into the show than "They aren't Japanese" before they start decrying it. If they do, then good for them, their argument has merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) For those of you playing the home game, a casting call has become available. http://www.thathashtagshow.com/2018/12/11/exclusive-netflix-cowboy-bebop-character-breakdowns-and-production-start-date/ Specifically they want Asian actors for Spike (with that Jewfro? I believe he’s modeled after a Japanese actor so OK), Faye (makes way more sense), a black actor for Jet (makes sense) and an open call for Ed (which is good because if you mess up Ed it will be cringe-central) Edited December 19, 2018 by Jman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jman said: For those of you playing the home game, a casting call has become available. http://www.thathashtagshow.com/2018/12/11/exclusive-netflix-cowboy-bebop-character-breakdowns-and-production-start-date/ Specifically they want Asian actors for Spike (with that Jewfro? I believe he’s modeled after a Japanese actor so OK), Faye (makes way more sense), a black actor for Jet (makes sense) and an open call for Ed (which is good because if you mess up Ed it will be cringe-central) considering his last name is Spiegel I assume Spike is supposed to be Jewish not Japanese (or at the very least mixed) (Faye on the other hand IS supposed to be racially asian) as for Ed I think her race is supposed to be impossible to determine specifically for the purpose of making her even weirder her real name is " Françoise Appledelhi " and Appledelhi doesn't even seem to be a real name, but Françoise is french, it's the french version of the name Frances Edited December 19, 2018 by mochi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saito34 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) On 12/8/2018 at 11:03 PM, Winter_Rain said: Did you do enough research into the show?? The characters aren't explicitly Japanese, but they're also not whitebread white people either. Spike has a Jewish surname, Ed is brown, and Faye is from Singapore, a multiethnic Southeast Asian country mostly populated by Chinese, Indians, and Malays. The casting 100% deserves to get questioned if it just "happens" that the actors all end up being white with Northern European features. Spiegel is a German surname and I seriously doubt it was chosen to indicate a specific ethnicity. If I had to guess I would say Watanabe envisioned a Japanese or mixed asian background. Spike was a member of the Red Dragon crime syndicate which was "an East Asian Triad and Yakuza-inspired organization". Edited December 20, 2018 by saito34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saito34 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 22 hours ago, Jman said: and an open call for Ed (which is good because if you mess up Ed it will be cringe-central) Botching Ed is both the most likely thing to happen and the biggest potential pitfall of a LA Bebop adaptation. That is not an easy character to hit the right notes on, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 53 minutes ago, saito34 said: Botching Ed is both the most likely thing to happen and the biggest potential pitfall of a LA Bebop adaptation. That is not an easy character to hit the right notes on, There was this god awful internet film made a few years ago where for no discernible reason, one of the reviewers goes into a full on Ed cosplay and impersonation. CRINGE CENTRAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Jman said: There was this god awful internet film made a few years ago where for no discernible reason, one of the reviewers goes into a full on Ed cosplay and impersonation. CRINGE CENTRAL. Channel Awesome presents The Nostalgia Critic: To Boldly Flee. An internet film that was supposed to be the biggest-scale production of some of the most popular movie/game reviewers at the time, but wound up being horribly written, a nightmare of a production, and ultimately led to its creator burning bridges with most of them. FYI, it wasn't "for no reason". The person becoming Ed gets electrocuted when fixing a machine and it messes her (his) brain. She (he, now) was one of the few people in the film to represent anime, so the writer thought it was a funny idea. Edited December 20, 2018 by elfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 When watching Kickassia/To Boldly Flee, take a drink every time someone stands in a dramatic pose with their arms crossed. You'll be dead in six minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, PokeNirvash said: When watching Kickassia/To Boldly Flee, take a drink every time someone stands in a dramatic pose with their arms crossed. You'll be dead in six minutes. That suggests actually watching one of those two self-promoting train wrecks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 All the more reason to drink during it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Oh man I WAS OBSESSED with Nostalgia Critic when they were in the era of growing their anniversary movies bigger and bigger, but then more bad news keep coming to the point where I'm just burned out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saito34 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 10:40 AM, Jman said: There was this god awful internet film made a few years ago where for no discernible reason, one of the reviewers goes into a full on Ed cosplay and impersonation. CRINGE CENTRAL. They're probably just better off scaling Ed's weirdness back a bit. Some characters just don't translate well out of animation. I could totally see a major cringe fest when Ed is on screen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 11:02 AM, elfie said: Channel Awesome presents The Nostalgia Critic: To Boldly Flee. An internet film that was supposed to be the biggest-scale production of some of the most popular movie/game reviewers at the time, but wound up being horribly written, a nightmare of a production, and ultimately led to its creator burning bridges with most of them. The whole channel awesome fallout makes me happy that I never really got into all the anniversary specials that they put out. It always seemed like a big waste to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 12/19/2018 at 9:48 PM, saito34 said: Spiegel is a German surname and I seriously doubt it was chosen to indicate a specific ethnicity. If I had to guess I would say Watanabe envisioned a Japanese or mixed asian background. Spike was a member of the Red Dragon crime syndicate which was "an East Asian Triad and Yakuza-inspired organization". Soooo.... do we bitch, or not bitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) I was a big fan of Nostalgia Critic and the other producers for a while, myself. Found him through AVGN, who a girl I was friends with who worked at a game store told me about, he was Angry Nintendo Nerd back then. Those Anniversary Specials were cool, had no idea bout the behind the scenes stuff with that one. But, at the time, my computer was so shitty it got to the point I could barely watch the videos anymore, and several things that were going on with the site and producers were pissing me off. It was decided that Nostalgia Critic show would end, which, fine... but, the show to replace it was pretty bad, and the first episode was a Dark Knight parody. Talk about creative and branching out! Also kind of annoyed me that they were going out of their way to cast a black guy and a woman in it, simply because there were too many white guys on the site, I guess. Either way, that show was a bust. Phealous hooked up with that one girl who also did videos on the site, and I guess influenced his humor, because his videos became less funny, especially as she kept appearing in them. Just remember her videos being boring. There were some other shows that lessened in quality or changed in ways I didn't like, and just, in general, I decided to say fuck it and stop watching the site. I had no idea about the nightmare going on behind the scenes, or that JewWario was a rapist (glad I never became a big fan of his.) Still liked Linkara though and would probably watch his videos again if I ever got the chance. I liked Marsgurl's videos about animation. Never watched the anime person's videos much. Read Right to Left was good though. Still watch Cinemmassacre and AVGN of course. But yeah, who would have thought that Channel Awesome was a video producer sweatshop behind the scenes with horrible management. Is there anything that won't have a scandal and secret dark side at this point? Edited January 5, 2019 by ben0119 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) We have a cast list, with John Cho as Spike. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/john-cho-star-netflixs-cowboy-bebop-1199457 When asked for comment, Jason DeMarco presumably just went “Fuck Netflix” 50 times. Edited April 4, 2019 by Jman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Not bad, honestly. This matches up nicely with the casting call from earlier, since Cho is Asian (albeit Korean, which is an interesting flex) and they have a black actor as Jet. No news on who's playing Ed, but I imagine the full cast is still being hammered out. If I had any material displeasure with this production, I'd express it in the form of Harold & Kumar jokes. But for right now, I'll see where it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonSinger Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jman said: We have a cast list, with John Cho as Spike. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/john-cho-star-netflixs-cowboy-bebop-1199457 When asked for comment, Jason DeMarco presumably just went “Fuck Netflix” 50 times. I...don't hate this casting. Oh god, I might actually get my hopes up about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidz Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 i read the title like LA cowboy bebop like Los Angeles cowboy bebop and im like huh, cowboy bebop set in an LA setting? might be interesting" but you meant live action and thats cool but now i kinda wanna see the crew like go around tryna have odd jobs and make it in LA. and im slightly dissapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, Jman said: We have a cast list, with John Cho as Spike. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/john-cho-star-netflixs-cowboy-bebop-1199457 When asked for comment, Jason DeMarco presumably just went “Fuck Netflix” 50 times. having spoken to Demarco, I don't think he cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jman said: We have a cast list, with John Cho as Spike. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/john-cho-star-netflixs-cowboy-bebop-1199457 When asked for comment, Jason DeMarco presumably just went “Fuck Netflix” 50 times. It’s multicultural casting, I can dig that. Latina Faye, African American Jet, European Vicious and an Asian Spike. I’m starting to look forward to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saito34 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Faye Faye 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaclease Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I'm liking the line up. We'll see how it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, mochi said: having spoken to Demarco, I don't think he cares Considering his love of Bebop...you sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I'll be disappointed if Spike doesn't buy, try to buy, or think about buying Kobe Lobster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Jman said: When asked for comment, Jason DeMarco presumably just went “Fuck Netflix” 50 times. source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 52 minutes ago, saito34 said: Faye Faye Woah momma! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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