Bringing children to political protests. Yes or no?

[SwimOdin]

I honestly don’t know how I feel either way. I’m thinking about going to the No Kings protest, buuuut…I’ve got my four year old grandson tomorrow too, so I don’t think it would be appropriate? I don’t know. What are your feelings?

[Insipid]

I really don't think anyone under 18 should be at a political protest, but it's just my opinion. I don't feel particularly strong about it. If it feels right for you, do it.

[SwimOdin]

1 minute ago, Insipid said:

I really don't think anyone under 18 should be at a political protest, but it's just my opinion. I don't feel particularly strong about it. If it feels right for you, do it.

I think I feel the same way? Political protests are not what they used to be. Even in situations where it’s utterly peaceful, the other side seems hellbent on fucking that up. Obviously that’s a feature and not a bug with this administration and they want to make protest scary for us, but I guess it’s worked on me, at least where the little guy is concerned.

[ghostrek]

3 minutes ago, SwimOdin said:

I honestly don’t know how I feel either way. I’m thinking about going to the No Kings protest, buuuut…I’ve got my four year old grandson tomorrow too, so I don’t think it would be appropriate? I don’t know. What are your feelings?

@SwimOdin Yes and no, depending on the example I have in mind. For special education funding, a child might have a personal stake in the matter. However, if it involves stopping a war that the child doesn’t even know about, then absolutely not. It really depends on the age of the child; for a teenager, if it’s completely peaceful, then yes.  if my significant other uses my child as a prop in a protest, the kid might have a different opinion on it or none at all. I would  be calling a family law  attorney 

[ghostrek]

7 minutes ago, Insipid said:

I really don't think anyone under 18 should be at a political protest, but it's just my opinion. I don't feel particularly strong about it. If it feels right for you, do it.

@Insipid Wow i am  surprised

[SwimOdin]

1 minute ago, ghostrek said:

@SwimOdin Yes and no, depending on the example I have in mind. For special education funding, a child might have a personal stake in the matter. However, if it involves stopping a war that the child doesn’t even know about, then absolutely not. It really depends on the age of the child; for a teenager, if it’s completely peaceful, then yes.  if my significant other uses my child as a prop in a protest, the kid might have a different opinion on it or none at all. I would  be calling a family law  attorney 

That was extremely cogent and I…agree? What’s going on

[ghostrek]

1 minute ago, SwimOdin said:

That was extremely cogent and I…agree? What’s going on

I use Grammarly . Thank you for  noticing 

[André Toulon]

Nah, i wouldn't but its more of how i would act than anyone else... I'm not great in situations where authority or an opposing force exists, and my antics would endanger my children...i dont take them to waffle house for this sane reason

[André Toulon]

Should be same, but sane woks in this context

[1pooh4u]

I see people do it all the time but idk I think in this climate it’s best to not do it. 

[ghostrek]

29 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I see people do it all the time but idk I think in this climate it’s best to not do it. 

I have a question: What happens if a child has an opposing viewpoint? Protesting is protected under the First Amendment of our Constitution, but if a child holds a different view, what does that mean legally? It seems like it could potentially take away the child's First Amendment rights in a way.

[little_girl_lost]

I'm sure they make gas masks in kid sizes these days

[1pooh4u]

5 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

I have a question: What happens if a child has an opposing viewpoint? Protesting is protected under the First Amendment of our Constitution, but if a child holds a different view, what does that mean legally? It seems like it could potentially take away the child's First Amendment rights in a way.

Typically these are children who don’t necessarily have a viewpoint of their own. They aren’t even teenagers yet and parents don’t have to abide by the constitution. They can tell their kids to shut up.  So in essence it means nothing legally if a child has a different view point than their parents or guardians.  

[ghostrek]

27 minutes ago, little_girl_lost said:

I'm sure they make gas masks in kid sizes these days

 

 

Who would put their child in danger for political gain or propaganda? 

 

It seems fucked up. I know that in some parts of the country, many people don't support the current administration. Taking your kids to a protest could be labeled a riot, and calling Trump a fascist dictator isn't worth that risk.t 

Edited Friday at 06:40 PM by ghostrek

[ghostrek]

Just now, 1pooh4u said:

 parents don’t have to abide by the constitution.

That seems fascist in a way. Men and women in uniform have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution.  I think we all have the Constitutional right, despite our age! 

[little_girl_lost]

28 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

 

 

Who would put their child in danger for political gain or propaganda? 

 

the right

 

edit, im not saying odin is one of those nutjobs, but i see people on the right using their kids at rallys all the rime

Edited Friday at 06:48 PM by little_girl_lost

[scoobdog]

8 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

That seems fascist in a way. Men and women in uniform have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution.  I think we all have the Constitutional right, despite our age! 

Everyone has rights, but those rights are dependent on an individual's agency.  You are within your rights to drag your child to a rally for a political cause that they finds repugnant, but doing so does not mean they are automatically a party to that political movement in eyes of the law. 

[1pooh4u]

15 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

That seems fascist in a way. Men and women in uniform have sworn an oath to protect the Constitution.  I think we all have the Constitutional right, despite our age! 

A child can be told what to do and is the responsibility of adults.  Idk wtf you want from me. You asked a weird question and got the best answer I could give you. You wanna go all rah rah patriotic, be my guest, go sue the parents of your hypothetical scenario for all I gaf 😆

 

I mean wtf ghostie 🫠

[André Toulon]

[ghostrek]

44 minutes ago, little_girl_lost said:

the right

 

edit, im not saying odin is one of those nutjobs, but i see people on the right using their kids at rallys all the rime

@little_girl_lost as some on with political beliefs that would moderate.  I can see some fringe elements of both left and right doing it.  far left and far right/alt right uses  the same playbook 

[ghostrek]

50 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

Everyone has rights, but those rights are dependent on an individual's agency.  You are within your rights to drag your child to a rally for a political cause that they finds repugnant, but doing so does not mean they are automatically a party to that political movement in eyes of the law. 

nice to know. but still feel that unsle the kid has a stake in the matter. don't take them but I am also not parnet  

[André Toulon]

12 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

nice to know. but still feel that unsle the kid has a stake in the matter. don't take them but I am also not parnet  

Grammarly down at the moment?

Edited Friday at 07:51 PM by André Toulon

[scoobdog]

1 minute ago, ghostrek said:

nice to know. but still feel that unsle the kid has a stake in the matter. don't take them but I am also not parnet  

It doesn't work like that.  Who's going to babysit the kid while they're at the event?  That's what I mean by agency - parents have the right to their first amendment rights without having to prioritize obligations like childcare.

[ghostrek]

51 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

A child can be told what to do and is the responsibility of adults.  Idk wtf you want from me. You asked a weird question and got the best answer I could give you. You wanna go all rah rah patriotic, be my guest, go sue the parents of your hypothetical scenario for all I gaf 😆

 

I mean wtf ghostie 🫠

 

 

@1pooh4uI just don't like to see kids getting hurt; they have a right to be safe. I see it as a risk to endanger a child if they're at an event that could turn into a riot. This could happen at anything, even a college football game. For instance, my brother and I are fans of the Ohio State Buckeyes, and my other brother is a Michigan Wolverines fan. We often talk about going to a game together, and I worry that it could lead to a riot as well. It’s a concerning situation.   i did not mean to offend 

[ghostrek]

32 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

It doesn't work like that.  Who's going to babysit the kid while they're at the event?  That's what I mean by agency - parents have the right to their first amendment rights without having to prioritize obligations like childcare.

ok, that fare but there's more than one way to protest. There's a saying I have, saying I rebelled through my loyalty. And trust me, there have been times when my patriotism, well, I didn't have any. But the only way I could rebel is through my loyalty to this country, for example, I'm just saying. Of course, I know a lot of people at places that were very disloyal, so that's the only way I could rebel against them. But I think some of them were so stupid didn't realize what I was doing.    I do love my country, I just don't think my country loves me back, for the record, and I don't mean the government either.  But the example I gave is one of many. There are ways you can protest stuff without endangering children, you might even involve them, and some of the ways that don't endanger them

Edited Friday at 08:16 PM by ghostrek

[1pooh4u]

14 minutes ago, ghostrek said:

 

 

@1pooh4uI just don't like to see kids getting hurt; they have a right to be safe. I see it as a risk to endanger a child if they're at an event that could turn into a riot. This could happen at anything, even a college football game. For instance, my brother and I are fans of the Ohio State Buckeyes, and my other brother is a Michigan Wolverines fan. We often talk about going to a game together, and I worry that it could lead to a riot as well. It’s a concerning situation.   i did not mean to offend 

You didn’t offend me I just think you took your answer to a overly dramatic conclusion with the “men and women in uniform swearing an oath to the Constitution” when we’re talking about taking children to protests and I was talking about young kids. Some in strollers still. 

[ghostrek]

6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

You didn’t offend me I just think you took your answer to a overly dramatic conclusion with the “men and women in uniform swearing an oath to the Constitution” when we’re talking about taking children to protests and I was talking about young kids. Some in strollers still. 

yes thet called child endagnerment 

[discolé monade]

8 hours ago, SwimOdin said:

I honestly don’t know how I feel either way. I’m thinking about going to the No Kings protest, buuuut…I’ve got my four year old grandson tomorrow too, so I don’t think it would be appropriate? I don’t know. What are your feelings?

not this one. i dont' think you want to do that. 

i'm down for taking the little ones to learn about their right to peaceful assembly. the last one was a BLM for a slain black man killed by a local deputy couple years back. had ypipo on a roof with their rifles, looking like the racist assholes they were, but i knew that particular march WOULD be peaceful. my gran had a very nice stroller ride. 

'no kings'.....

i don't think i would chance it. 

[discolé monade]

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Edited yesterday at 01:33 AM by discolé monade

[katt_goddess]

My take on the current climate is don't bring anyone with that is too young to defend or just take care of themselves should shit hit the fan and you become separated for even a second. 

You have a regime that thinks any bad word about them should be treated with teargas and rubber bullets. And you have local 'authorities' willing to kiss that ass by providing both. 

So while the children are the future and these protests are in hopes that there WILL be a future, perhaps leave the baby shields for cowardly snivelers who trust that the people they target wouldn't shoot a kid because the types of people bringing weapons to these protests don't care who they hit. 

If you need a 'child', bring a traffic cone with the pointed end taped shut. Slap some google eyes on it. And drop it on any teargas container tossed your way for easy containment. 

[Raptorpat]

my kid was the star of a "save the post office" protest a couple months ago, but that's a bit more niche

[naraku360]

Children are great for protests.

Little meat shields, ya know?

[scoobdog]

20 hours ago, ghostrek said:

yes thet called child endagnerment 

Most parents don’t take their kids to Klan rallies, so I’m sure it’s fine.

[ghostrek]

8 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Most parents don’t take their kids to Klan rallies, so I’m sure it’s fine.

?

[naraku360]

8 hours ago, scoobdog said:

Most parents don’t take their kids to Klan rallies

Unless they need a meat shield.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, naraku360 said:

Unless they need a meat shield.

Nah, they already drank their blood after sacrificing them to Satan.

[scoobdog]

1 hour ago, ghostrek said:

?

I have no idea what rallies you think these parents are taking their kids to, but if child endangerment is a possibility then those kids are already royally fucked.  So I say take them and let nature take its course.

 

[Insipid]

If anyone on the boards participated in this protest, I wanna say thank you. I want to participate in protesting but I'm always working when they happen. 😑