Jman Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 5 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Getting a bit disheartened. I live in a state firmly entrenched in the Democratic Party. One of the Chicago collar counties was hard Republican, but the Dems are making in-roads. That's not the problem. I drive to work & back through a town a few miles away and every day, it seems, another house puts up a Trump sign...or 30. They're outnumbering the Harris home signs by 5:1. Tell me about it. I think they just want to be louder to discourage others. Speaking of, after not being allowed to endorse Harris, the head of the LA Times Editorial board resigned. https://www.cjr.org/business_of_news/los-angeles-times-editorials-editor-resigns-after-owner-blocks-presidential-endorsement.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Not the rumored groper but another - Not like any of this fucking matters - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 On 10/22/2024 at 4:55 PM, André Toulon said: I read the LA Times article on this. And lol. I means, it's obvious who they would've endorsed if the billionaire owner didn't come in swinging his dick around. Seems last time he did something like this, some of his staff walked. 10 minutes ago, Jman said: Speaking of, after not being allowed to endorse Harris, the head of the LA Times Editorial board resigned. So I guess bro hasn't learned his lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 4 hours ago, matrixman124 said: Tulsi Gabbard is joining the GOP CALLED IT When I saw this I wasn’t even surprised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenguinBoss Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, Raptorpat said: a bunch of grifty right-wingers like Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec have apparently been preemptively pushing out to their audiences that the Dems are going to release a deepfake of Trump doing terrible things, and some right-wing journalists like Mark Halperin (newsmax) have also claimed they were shopped a story that would end Trump's campaign if it were substantiated. idk that those two things are connected, but it appears that griftland is gearing up either way. the story shopping doesn't even make sense, why would someone shop a damaging Trump expose to newsmax or RCP unless they wanted some of that catch-and-kill money? we're balls deep into the silly season and it's probably worth just tuning anything and everything out Let's go pee tape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rpgamer Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 It'd have to be something a lot worse than groping to "end Trump's campaign." Like. Bare minimum "giving Giuliani a bj." Groping anyone would just make him more relatable to his inbred voter base. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 4 hours ago, scoobdog said: You'se a Coastal Elite. I'll vote if I get it. Unless it looks like ballots missing en masse, I'm not especially broken up over it since I'm not really sure how I feel on most of the local stuff. I'm PNW so Harris is a foregone conclusion. My local politics seem pretty corrupt down to city and county. Amongst Dems and independents, I can't really trust more than a couple. I'm having a frustrating time breaking through the potential astroturf. I dunno, if someone wants to look at Oregon shit be my guest. It's a bit too much to parse on my own and most of them kinda suck. Edited October 24 by naraku360 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, naraku360 said: I'll vote if I get it. Unless it looks like ballots missing en masse, I'm not especially broken up over it since I'm not really sure how I feel on most of the local stuff. I'm PNW so Harris is a foregone conclusion. My local politics seem pretty corrupt down to city and county. Amongst Dems and independents, I can't really trust more than a couple. I'm having a frustrating time breaking through the potential astroturf. I dunno, if someone wants to look at Oregon shit be my guest. It's a bit too much to parse on my own and most of them kinda suck. I think I was focusing too much on politicians. Some of these measures seem interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Got the ballot..... Figured complaining would make it get here. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 In a completely random incident, a Kentucky state senator died when the lawnmower he was riding fell into an empty pool on his property. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-lawmaker-johnnie-turner-dies-lawn-mower-pool/ That's one way to go out. A Jackass stunt gone horribly wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I just saw a Constitution Party ad about black abortions. Huge wtf moment. Here's another one with a similar message. The guy openly stated he just wants to prevent people voting for Harris. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Because Harris is a woman, I got a sinking feeling she’s not going to win, and 4 years of Trump again will just be so fuckin awful and unproductive because he will spend 4 years just going after his “enemies”. I really don’t think we learned anything from last time when he appointed 3 SC Justices and filled up the federal courts with judges that the Senate blocked Obama from appointing. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 22 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Because Harris is a woman, I got a sinking feeling she’s not going to win, and 4 years of Trump again will just be so fuckin awful and unproductive because he will spend 4 years just going after his “enemies”. I really don’t think we learned anything from last time when he appointed 3 SC Justices and filled up the federal courts with judges that the Senate blocked Obama from appointing. I think she's got a good shot. We will see 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 9 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: I think she's got a good shot. We will see It’s weird. All the polling that isn’t blatantly GOP average disrupters favors Harris, and even CNN went “Chill out, Harris is winning”. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/10/23/2279048/-When-CNN-s-Chief-Poll-Alarmist-Is-Telling-You-To-Calm-Down?detail=emaildkre&pm_source=DKRE&pm_medium=email Not to mention women are heavily outvoting men and 2020 averages. But no one can escape that gut feeling that Trump will win because we are that sexist and racist a society. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Harris’s Houston rally will be headlined by Beyoncé. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I got no faith in humanity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Just now, 1pooh4u said: I got no faith in humanity. I don’t either. But this isn’t Hillary. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 5 minutes ago, Jman said: I don’t either. But this isn’t Hillary. She's definitely a more palatable choice than fucking Hillary 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 10 minutes ago, Jman said: I don’t either. But this isn’t Hillary. 4 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: She's definitely a more palatable choice than fucking Hillary I agree but at the end of the day she’s still a woman. I hope I’m wrong. Both Hilary and Kamala were and are more qualified than Trump. Definitely more experienced but that shit doesn’t matter when you have ovaries and a vagina. As unpalatable as Hilary was and is she wasn’t less palatable than flag humping, pussy grabbing Trump. Kamala is obviously the better choice based of her resume. I’m not saying it’s all candy and kittens but her entire adult life she’s served the people. Trump just helps himself. Too many out there will vote for Trump cuz he’s a republican with a “penis” put that in quotes cuz I’m sure his dick is the punchline of a joke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Just now, 1pooh4u said: I agree but at the end of the day she’s still a woman. I hope I’m wrong. Both Hilary and Kamala were and are more qualified than Trump. Definitely more experienced but that shit doesn’t matter when you have ovaries and a vagina. As unpalatable as Hilary was and is she wasn’t less palatable than flag humping, pussy grabbing Trump. Kamala is obviously the better choice based of her resume. I’m not saying it’s all candy and kittens but her entire adult life she’s served the people. Trump just helps himself. Too many out there will vote for Trump cuz he’s a republican with a “penis” put that in quotes cuz I’m sure his dick is the punchline of a joke. I genuinely think people were looking for a reason not to vote for Hillary because they didn’t like her as a person. And they got it with those damn emails. Harris has the same GOP spin machine running against her, but she does not have the baggage of being seen as heir apparent. Hillary was one of the worst candidates to ever run, and Harris only has half her issues, namely her lower half. I’ll be honest, I won’t feel comfortable about the political process until Trump is dead. But I guess better terrified than complacent. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 i think that the thing that amazes me, is that, on one hand, we have a candidate, that has an 80 page document on the changes she proposes, and discusses said policies. on the other hand, we have a turnip, declaring pelosie, smith and the like are 'the enemy from within' (his favorite term) and will absolutely use national guard or military (his words) to remove them and the rest of the radical left. his ENTIRE GOP has to explain this away as high emotional state of love for his nation. NO fucking no. how can it be this fucking close? things aren't going to be just bad if trump gets in, it's going to be down right a facist state. trump will not be in power. he will be removed within the first 3 months, for the true candidate the heritage foundation sought out. being a woman, one would think would be the exact right thing. but we have women that are now the enemy of their own gender. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 3 hours ago, discolé monade said: how can it be this fucking close? Because the Electoral College is fucked up and we're all still collectively traumatized from 2016. The Electoral College and the way states are divided fundamentally forces it to be close. It's a fucked up way of voting, and will remain so until we finally get a majority capable of outlawing it, but in terms of popular vote, it's not close. But the Electoral College fundamentally does not allow that. Edited October 24 by Jman 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discolé monade Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 ahhhh yes. the 3/5 compromise, yeah yeah. " *le sigh* 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 What made Hilary such a horrible candidate though? When I hear stuff like that it just reinforces what I’m saying. The email thing was nonsense and the reopening of the case had nothing to do with her per se but someone else on her staff. Besides Trump and pals did the same thing by using an unsecured server to send emails but not much was said about it she was the First Lady of Arkansas and the nation. She was a senator and Secretary of State. What made her a worse candidate than Trump? People are criticizing Kamala in similar ways but I don’t see how she’s worse than Trump. Why? Cuz she likes to laugh? Cuz she code switches depending on who she’s talking to? Idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 20 hours ago, tsar4 said: Getting a bit disheartened. I live in a state firmly entrenched in the Democratic Party. One of the Chicago collar counties was hard Republican, but the Dems are making in-roads. That's not the problem. I drive to work & back through a town a few miles away and every day, it seems, another house puts up a Trump sign...or 30. They're outnumbering the Harris home signs by 5:1. Probably because MAGAts frequently vandalize, attack, and kill anyone who puts up a Harris sign. My dad put one up - just one - and his neighbor immediately put up two of her own, one of which says "Democrats for Trump" even though she isn't a Democrat. I guess she was trying to be clever but that's not really in their wheelhouse. Everyone knows her and everyone knows she's trash, no one will think that sign is my dad's, especially not while his is literally still posted right next to it. lol It's not like the average Trump supporter has the capacity to learn so all you stand to accomplish by posting a sign is putting a target on your back and these people have no mental health care and all the wrong drugs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, discolé monade said: i think that the thing that amazes me, is that, on one hand, we have a candidate, that has an 80 page document on the changes she proposes, and discusses said policies. on the other hand, we have a turnip, declaring pelosie, smith and the like are 'the enemy from within' (his favorite term) and will absolutely use national guard or military (his words) to remove them and the rest of the radical left. his ENTIRE GOP has to explain this away as high emotional state of love for his nation. NO fucking no. how can it be this fucking close? things aren't going to be just bad if trump gets in, it's going to be down right a facist state. trump will not be in power. he will be removed within the first 3 months, for the true candidate the heritage foundation sought out. being a woman, one would think would be the exact right thing. but we have women that are now the enemy of their own gender. The part I highlighted. So much this. Social culture has got to change. Women tend to see other women as rivals and while idw to blame women for having a Trump presidency, there’s no denying that women, white women in particular, helped Trump win in 2016 and the number of female pick-me(s) haven’t changed seems like it got worse if anything. there is more at stake for women in this election than almost any other demographic, and yet, here we are possibly looking down the throat of another Trump presidency. The only solace is that if he does win it won’t be the popular vote that gets him there(that will burn his ass the entire 4 years). I mean it never is regardless but USUALLY they match up. Funny how it seems like republicans always seem to eke out an electoral victory without a popular vote. It’s almost like the majority doesn’t like or want republican policies. Oh wait it’s not almost like. It is like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 This is a good sign. We need more of this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorpat Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 28 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: What made Hilary such a horrible candidate though? the right-wing grievance media that birthed itself out of rush limbaugh's hole spent two decades vilifying her, there were no introductions left to make or opinions to shape. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrose321 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 14 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: What made Hilary such a horrible candidate though? When I hear stuff like that it just reinforces what I’m saying. The email thing was nonsense and the reopening of the case had nothing to do with her per se but someone else on her staff. Besides Trump and pals did the same thing by using an unsecured server to send emails but not much was said about it she was the First Lady of Arkansas and the nation. She was a senator and Secretary of State. What made her a worse candidate than Trump? People are criticizing Kamala in similar ways but I don’t see how she’s worse than Trump. Why? Cuz she likes to laugh? Cuz she code switches depending on who she’s talking to? Idk. I have long felt that 2016 was a time of change - or at least the "promise" of it. Bernie was swinging further left and Trump was swinging further right. That left Hillary somewhat in the middle by comparison, and both sides are clearly fed up with hanging out in the middle. The right wants a fascist dictatorship with corporate overlords and the left wants social programs, corporate responsibility, etc. I know that, in the end, Trump lied and his followers are gullible little tykes, but in 2016, he and Bernie were promising a bigger shift than what Hilary seemed to be pushing for. It left her vulnerable. Plus, Democrats are far more likely to criticize their own candidates than MAGAts are. They're posting pro-felon signs while simultaneously throwing black men into prison for marijuana and they don't care that you know how racist they are. They know they can rewrite the narrative on Twatter. He's whored around on every wife he's ever had, beat the first one, neglected his kids, and they still sexualize him while calling him the next coming of Christ. Democrats aren't nearly as fanatical about their candidates and I tend to think there is a correlation between religiosity and ignorance. The right, being more religious (in theory, not in practice), are more susceptible to cult thinking and I do believe there are studies showing a difference in the brains of those who are religious vs those who are not. Also, there was definitely some amount of sexism involved. Couldn't tell you how much but it's never 0. Women can't show anger, frustration, sadness, strength, calmness, joy, anything, without being criticized as "too emotional" or "too weak". But when Trump is on stage cursing, insulting people, threatening violence, that's just him being strong. That's why I think it's safe to assume every Trump supporter has at least one -ism : racism, sexism, classism...anosognosism... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 6 minutes ago, Raptorpat said: the right-wing grievance media that birthed itself out of rush limbaugh's hole spent two decades vilifying her, there were no introductions left to make or opinions to shape. The right are literally evil geniuses because it worked. ☹️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 In 2016 the people were really angry over how Sanders was fucked out of the nom over Clinton and that definitely made people feel some sort of way. Idk how many people spite voted for Trump and if it had an impact in 2016. I just hope there’s more common sense when it comes to voting this time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: What made Hilary such a horrible candidate though? When I hear stuff like that it just reinforces what I’m saying. The email thing was nonsense and the reopening of the case had nothing to do with her per se but someone else on her staff. Besides Trump and pals did the same thing by using an unsecured server to send emails but not much was said about it she was the First Lady of Arkansas and the nation. She was a senator and Secretary of State. What made her a worse candidate than Trump? People are criticizing Kamala in similar ways but I don’t see how she’s worse than Trump. Why? Cuz she likes to laugh? Cuz she code switches depending on who she’s talking to? Idk. There were a few things, albeit I think I still voted even though by the time I got out of work it was already effectively over: The first was that she's had a multi-decade hate campaign against her. Even if that's the result of misogyny, most people heard "Hillary Clinton" and were like, "ugh," well before 2016, so it's a really awful starting point. After that, there was how aggressively she went against every position that had any level of popularity, and the smug entitlement as she did was very offputting. For a male comparison to the smarminess, she's like the female Democrat Ted Cruz in the smug elitism department. Sanders fans, myself included, were especially mad that she ignored important states out of the assumption she'd win, then lost them despite typically being blue because she kept advocating against anything they would want. We also know she and the DNC propped up Trump for the easy win factor, so Trump is quite literally her fault to some degree. Trump has been throwing the same shit at Kamala, yet the best he's got are "Kamabla" and whining that his Biden potshots are useless now. It doesn't seem to be sticking, and Kamala got us possibly the most popular VP pick I can think of coinciding with Trump picking the least. The biggest difference seems to be that Trump is crumbling real time publicly. Edited October 24 by naraku360 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 hours ago, 1pooh4u said: What made Hilary such a horrible candidate though? https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2008/mar/25/hillary-clinton/video-shows-tarmac-welcome-no-snipers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Kamala has to be flawless while Trump gets away with saying anything... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbully Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 4 minutes ago, tsar4 said: Kamala has to be flawless while Trump gets away with saying anything... Oh wow, like people don't understand how systemic racism and sexism works. It's literally an every day thing so I'm kinda glad people have to see it in real time and not just ignore it and hand you the ol "bootstrap" line 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, naraku360 said: There were a few things, albeit I think I still voted even though by the time I got out of work it was already effectively over: The first was that she's had a multi-decade hate campaign against her. Even if that's the result of misogyny, most people heard "Hillary Clinton" and were like, "ugh," well before 2016, so it's a really awful starting point. After that, there was how aggressively she went against every position that had any level of popularity, and the smug entitlement as she did was very offputting. For a male comparison to the smarminess, she's like the female Democrat Ted Cruz in the smug elitism department. Sanders fans, myself included, were especially mad that she ignored important states out of the assumption she'd win, then lost them despite typically being blue because she kept advocating against anything they would want. We also know she and the DNC propped up Trump for the easy win factor, so Trump is quite literally her fault to some degree. Trump has been throwing the same shit at Kamala, yet the best he's got are "Kamabla" and whining that his Biden potshots are useless now. It doesn't seem to be sticking, and Kamala got us possibly the most popular VP pick I can think of coinciding with Trump picking the least. The biggest difference seems to be that Trump is crumbling real time publicly. Which positions did she go against that were so insanely popular that Trump would have or did implement? ok, yeah there was some level of hubris by not going to Wisconsin or WTH she didn’t go, but how was that worse than grabbing women by the pussy? Worse than not paying vendors and contractors? Worse than demanding the death of 5 innocent kids in NYC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 36 minutes ago, tsar4 said: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2008/mar/25/hillary-clinton/video-shows-tarmac-welcome-no-snipers/ That made her a horrible candidate against the biggest fuckin liar out there? People really have nothing and I’m no better, I was pissed too that Sanders was pushed out, but shit, the reality is she really wasn’t a horrible candidate and people simply didn’t like her. Even that article pointing out a lie she told. Ok I guess that means Harris is fucked because Walz too has been caught out there exaggerating about shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwimOdin Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I’ve taken too many edibles and I’m watching Jeopardy and there are Trump ads and they are scaring the absolute fuck out of me. That’s the tweet. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belize Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 If I was forced to call them: Harris: MI, PA, WI, GA, NC Trump: NV and AZ I'll live with my predictions whether right or wrong. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 14 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: That made her a horrible candidate against the biggest fuckin liar out there? People really have nothing and I’m no better, I was pissed too that Sanders was pushed out, but shit, the reality is she really wasn’t a horrible candidate and people simply didn’t like her. Even that article pointing out a lie she told. Ok I guess that means Harris is fucked because Walz too has been caught out there exaggerating about shit. The difference being that Walz made an error. Hillary said something to garner sympathy and possibly votes. It wasn't just an exaggeration, it was a complete falsehood that couldn't be chalked up to a misstatement. It didn't make me vote for Turnip, nor did her donning the NYY ball cap, but it didn't make me vote for her either. I wrote someone in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matrixman124 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Just now, tsar4 said: The difference being that Walz made an error. Hillary said something to garner sympathy and possibly votes. It wasn't just an exaggeration, it was a complete falsehood that couldn't be chalked up to a misstatement. It didn't make me vote for Turnip, nor did her donning the NYY ball cap, but it didn't make me vote for her either. I wrote someone in. I held my nose and voted Hillary. A lot of fat good that did. At least Harris was a much less stinky vote this time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tsar4 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, matrixman124 said: I held my nose and voted Hillary. A lot of fat good that did. At least Harris was a much less stinky vote this time Kamala is freakin' Carnations compared to either dumpster alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 35 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said: Which positions did she go against that were so insanely popular that Trump would have or did implement? ok, yeah there was some level of hubris by not going to Wisconsin or WTH she didn’t go, but how was that worse than grabbing women by the pussy? Worse than not paying vendors and contractors? Worse than demanding the death of 5 innocent kids in NYC? It isn't worse in action, but alienated a lot of the base and is probably one of the biggest factors. She ignored her target demographic in favor of status quo. I was thinking more broad terms for policy. It was basically the worst time to push status quo. She was against a well-liked populist and wasn't willing to engage the policies in good faith. Even Trump was feigning support for universal healthcare for some time, and I don't think she was willing to support as much as a public option. Her being a generally disliked politician, having unpopular policies, and openly villifying a large chunk of her base (calling "bErNiE bRos" the "deplorables") made her an especially bad candidiate at the worst possible time to be rigidly status quo. It didn't help that DNC tampering was coming out alongside the election since Julian Assange is a MAGA hack. She wasn't less liked than Trump, either. The electoral college fucked us out of a 2+ mil vote win. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naraku360 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) To clarify, I'm sure misogyny came into on both sides. But she was trying to appeal to GOP voters. Being a Democrat makes GOP votes a non-starter already. Being a woman over the age of consent made it impossible. Edited October 25 by naraku360 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 36 minutes ago, tsar4 said: The difference being that Walz made an error. Hillary said something to garner sympathy and possibly votes. It wasn't just an exaggeration, it was a complete falsehood that couldn't be chalked up to a misstatement. It didn't make me vote for Turnip, nor did her donning the NYY ball cap, but it didn't make me vote for her either. I wrote someone in. Are we sure he just made “an error” because he did it more than once. For all we know Clinton also made an error. She traveled to dozens of countries as SoS. Maybe she got the places mixed up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 hour ago, naraku360 said: status quo This really feels like a huge factor, especially for lackluster support from Dems. How tf you gonna follow an act like Obama without at least trying to convince folks shit's gonna get done? Especially with Sanders making so much noise. And AOC to boot. Being a career politician, yeah, the country might've been run fine (certainly better than what we got...), but.. the party as a whole has been suffering from a lot of talk and not enough action, and she couldn't really even talk the talk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1pooh4u Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 hour ago, SwimOdin said: I’ve taken too many edibles and I’m watching Jeopardy and there are Trump ads and they are scaring the absolute fuck out of me. That’s the tweet. This is the most “I did an edibles oops” post I have ever read 😆 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sieg67 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 https://coloradosun.com/2024/10/24/ballots-stolen-colorado-mesa-county/ Scheme to cast votes on stolen mail ballots thwarted by Colorado election officials Looking forward to seeing who the culprit is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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